Here's a challenge. Have an employee pick holds, you don't know what they are, then dump them on the mats in front of you. You set a route using those holds.
That sounds like a very cool idea, Maybe a nice twist to that idea, have 2 employees of very differing skill levels pick X amount each and shoot to create a certain grade, maybe v6ish. Would be super cool to see the creative juices flowing.
I love everything you guys do but Jake's setting videos are a particular favorite of mine! The enthusiasm and passion with which he goes about it is a joy to watch :) Pls do more and another game of setting idol sometime because the rest of the crew killed it on that!
Stopping by to give a like, about to leave for the airport so I’ll watch once I’m thru security waiting to board. Thanks for the vid, I’m excited to watch later!
Lukas Forster comp style boulders are usually ungraded. I think they are hard to grade because of the coordination and dyno moves that are used. I’d give it a v6-7 grade, but I’m no professional. Also, I haven’t tried it. Lol
@@Fred-oz3tw seeing that the bobats and magnus collaborated recently, I'd assume Omar and Magnus' cameraman discussed 4K. Bobats got nothing to gain by lying about this...
How is it him stealing anything? Re-creating something for the public to try, while still giving credit to the original setter is far from theft. If he claimed it was an original idea then sure I'd support you on that but in this case it's totally innocent. Besides , even if you could copy write a problem he would have to be using exactly the same holds on the same angle wall etc to even stand a chance in any court. I genuinely hope your comment is all a joke and it was lost thanks to text...and you're not actually being a twat because that would be silly.
@@driklol yes it was just a joke. Though it wasn't really aimed at UA-cam so much as at our arbitrary cultural standards for when ideas/creations are "owned". With some things we consider it to be legitimately owned by the creator (eg songwriting/recording, photography, film etc), while other things are considered to be free for anyone to copy and adapt with no sense of ownership of "intellectual property" (eg fashion designs, dancing, food recipes, climbing routesetting, or even climbing beta). When you are climbing and you come up with particular beta for how to climb, why don't you "own" that method in the way that JK Rowling "owns" Harry Potter? Why can't you prevent other people from using _your_ beta because you came up with it and it belongs to you?
Enjoyed the video! Although, I don’t get all the deliberating with the hold positions. If you were replicating another problem, why didn’t you just work out the distances between each hold and re-create it? There must’ve been some things in the original photo/video of the problem that were measurable? I’m sure it’s much harder than I think it is... 😆
Ste Rumbelow 1. it’s not really possible to know the exact angle of the comp wall 2. They may not have the exact same holds available to them 3. Less of an issue, but just a slight difference in the angle of a hold can change the way an entire route works. If you could measure the distance, you might spend just as much time messing with hold angles and stuff to make the climb work anyway
Andrew Kay Yeah, agree about the lean angle. I reckon you could work out the distance between holds pretty accurately though. You’re also right about them not having exactly the same holds. How I’ve worked out distances from images before is just starting with a known object and measuring how many pixels it is. Then, you know that 100px = 15cm in real life etc. Gives you the ability to calculate everything else in the image. Probably more fun to build by feel than measuring everything on-screen anyway!
Ste Rumbelow yeah I guess the Bobats just want to have a fun interpretation of the problem but I also agreed with your first comment: why didn’t they measure stuff and do it exactly like it ^^
@@emmaclarkauthor +1 on the angle making all the difference. Even on my home wall with me being a complete dink when it comes to setting ( i just set shit thats hard for me at the time and work through it) I can drop the difficulty drastically simply by changing the angle of the hold a bit or vice versa.
@@SteRumbelow As others have pointed out - none of this is any use if you don't have the same wall angles/height. Looks to me like the Beta Boulders wall is well lower than the World Cup one, as well as having the wrong angles, so it changes absolutely everything. If you've ever tried traversing on a vert versus like a 2% overhang and felt the massive difference - you should have some idea of how much impact that kind of thing has.
Here's a challenge. Have an employee pick holds, you don't know what they are, then dump them on the mats in front of you. You set a route using those holds.
That sounds like a very cool idea, Maybe a nice twist to that idea, have 2 employees of very differing skill levels pick X amount each and shoot to create a certain grade, maybe v6ish. Would be super cool to see the creative juices flowing.
ThEy’Re CaLLeD “BoULdErS” oR “pRoBLeMs”
6:58 "I know you want it here but I'm not going to put it there" literally every setter ever 🤣 keep up the great videos.
10:49 I gave you a brofist through the screen. Feels bad man....
I love everything you guys do but Jake's setting videos are a particular favorite of mine! The enthusiasm and passion with which he goes about it is a joy to watch :) Pls do more and another game of setting idol sometime because the rest of the crew killed it on that!
Interesting that you beeped Joké spicy words 12:38 but didn't beep Joe's ones at 8:17.
heh, I was wondering why there were no ads. Then I got to 8:15
3:34
"Okay, let's go back up."
*gets distracted*
How many problems do you usually set doing a normal day of setting?
Love these videos! Jakes dynos are smoooth. Was hoping to see you guys give it a go at the end though :(
How are you gonna end the video without us being able to see it done completely!?!?!
Rip Tom 10:46
Jake setting routes is easily my favourite videos. Would love to see more of him setting :)
Cool video! I really like Jake’s explanations and you guys have a fun channel!
love seeing a class setting video. editing envy
awesome! it was great watching this since we knew/saw what moves you were aiming for beforehand.
This was surprisingly interesting to watch with my morning coffee! :)
Love Jøcke! :D
Stopping by to give a like, about to leave for the airport so I’ll watch once I’m thru security waiting to board. Thanks for the vid, I’m excited to watch later!
MOOORE OF THISSS 😍
Question... What is the function of the holes in the walls, if they aren't used for holds?
They are used for holds. Some holds need screws and some need T-nuts, some need both to stabilize the hold.
@@ethananweiler9446 thank you (:
Woah..... Woah.... it looks so cool. Now I want to set a route.
Kicking in Copenhagen this weekend, where is the team hanging out tonight
They're long-gone - this was filmed a couple of weeks back.
man this one seemed tense, cool to see the process though
We've cheeta holds in our gym, as well. They are pretty nice!
face licking action waddup
More setting videos please!
Am I the only person who thinks Jake looks like the bad guy from a Knights Tale?
love jake
Does anyone know the source for the world cup clip?
do you not need to prove that the problem is doable?
Every move was doable, so ..
You guys should do another elimination video, but this time remove 1 hold at a time and keep repeating the climb until you can't do it anymore
hey, loved the video mind doing a video on intermediate/advanced tips? much appreciated
What grade would you say is that boulder?
Lukas Forster comp style boulders are usually ungraded. I think they are hard to grade because of the coordination and dyno moves that are used. I’d give it a v6-7 grade, but I’m no professional. Also, I haven’t tried it. Lol
kings
cheat left foot on left hand at start ang go static ?*
ayy no more 360p
Hi I'm looking to get back into rock climbing (specifically bouldering) what shoes do u recommend in the mid range price option like $120-$150
must be warm in there 😏
La team fr
Magnus gets a 4k camera and suddenly all of climbing youtube has one too
We actually had it first ;)
@@BoulderingBobat magnus said, that he filmed in 4k way before he actually uploaded in 4k so im not that sure about this. 🤔
@@Fred-oz3tw seeing that the bobats and magnus collaborated recently, I'd assume Omar and Magnus' cameraman discussed 4K. Bobats got nothing to gain by lying about this...
Will UA-cam's copyright protection system pick up on you stealing the original setter's intellectual property? 🤔
How is it him stealing anything? Re-creating something for the public to try, while still giving credit to the original setter is far from theft. If he claimed it was an original idea then sure I'd support you on that but in this case it's totally innocent. Besides , even if you could copy write a problem he would have to be using exactly the same holds on the same angle wall etc to even stand a chance in any court. I genuinely hope your comment is all a joke and it was lost thanks to text...and you're not actually being a twat because that would be silly.
@@driklol I think the joke went over your head a little bit. It was a dig at UA-cam's stringent (and often unfair) copyright algorithm.
@@Freyakuso yes that whole text thing really screws with sarcasm. I assumed it was trolly but you never know how ignorant someone is lol.
@@driklol yes it was just a joke. Though it wasn't really aimed at UA-cam so much as at our arbitrary cultural standards for when ideas/creations are "owned". With some things we consider it to be legitimately owned by the creator (eg songwriting/recording, photography, film etc), while other things are considered to be free for anyone to copy and adapt with no sense of ownership of "intellectual property" (eg fashion designs, dancing, food recipes, climbing routesetting, or even climbing beta). When you are climbing and you come up with particular beta for how to climb, why don't you "own" that method in the way that JK Rowling "owns" Harry Potter? Why can't you prevent other people from using _your_ beta because you came up with it and it belongs to you?
@@NotQuiteFirst These days it wouldn't surprise me one bit if someone tried to copywrite beta.
Enjoyed the video!
Although, I don’t get all the deliberating with the hold positions. If you were replicating another problem, why didn’t you just work out the distances between each hold and re-create it? There must’ve been some things in the original photo/video of the problem that were measurable? I’m sure it’s much harder than I think it is... 😆
Ste Rumbelow
1. it’s not really possible to know the exact angle of the comp wall
2. They may not have the exact same holds available to them
3. Less of an issue, but just a slight difference in the angle of a hold can change the way an entire route works. If you could measure the distance, you might spend just as much time messing with hold angles and stuff to make the climb work anyway
Andrew Kay Yeah, agree about the lean angle. I reckon you could work out the distance between holds pretty accurately though. You’re also right about them not having exactly the same holds.
How I’ve worked out distances from images before is just starting with a known object and measuring how many pixels it is. Then, you know that 100px = 15cm in real life etc. Gives you the ability to calculate everything else in the image.
Probably more fun to build by feel than measuring everything on-screen anyway!
Ste Rumbelow yeah I guess the Bobats just want to have a fun interpretation of the problem but I also agreed with your first comment: why didn’t they measure stuff and do it exactly like it ^^
@@emmaclarkauthor +1 on the angle making all the difference. Even on my home wall with me being a complete dink when it comes to setting ( i just set shit thats hard for me at the time and work through it) I can drop the difficulty drastically simply by changing the angle of the hold a bit or vice versa.
@@SteRumbelow As others have pointed out - none of this is any use if you don't have the same wall angles/height. Looks to me like the Beta Boulders wall is well lower than the World Cup one, as well as having the wrong angles, so it changes absolutely everything. If you've ever tried traversing on a vert versus like a 2% overhang and felt the massive difference - you should have some idea of how much impact that kind of thing has.
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