Yea if you get alot of crits during fade uptime you could even end up having higher threat than before u faded. Best to take a few seconds break during fade to be sure. But if you don't want dps loss you can risk it and hope for the best to not pull agro. 🙏
You generally only use sw:d as a filler when moving but if it's a mana intensive fight you should use it as a last resort. Keep in mind using sw:d in combo with some mechanics will kill you, prio dispersion in that case (if fiend on cd ofc).
@@prshr6145 Better to precast vt into sw:p, dp to have more chance at an orb early on. But if you want to risk it you can precast vt into mind spikes to fish for a quick orb but I generally want to play safe. Having all your dots rolling early will give you more chance of an early orb, you also will alrdy have your dots up rolling so you can immediately get into your non-dot spells. Your damage buff after an orb will override your dots anyway when you refresh them so it's a trade off for a bit less dot dmg at start but you will have more chance of getting an orb in return. Overall you will have more secure dps but if you want to fish for an early orb that's totally up to your playstyle.
Do you need to press shift? I have my bars locked (So I don't accidentally drag things when in combat etc). I think you might have something similar enabled maybe
Missing shadow protection as a buff to give with fort. I also think mass dispell is a better major glyph than inner fire. Also, your opener shouldn't be vt/dp at the start. You want 5 dark evang and shadow orb buff before you apply them since it's 'snapshotting' . Should be something like: prepull-mind spike (to get faster mb) , swp, mf x5 (hopefully have 1 shadow orb by this point) , mb, vt/dp, mf spam with mb on cd. Also depending on fight, I've found consuming dark evangelism as a good execute phase with mind spike x2, mb, swd swd, mind spike spam to mb/swd on cd. Still testing that though
@danielhardesty6530 I was mostly looking at what the sims were doing and doing my own testing on target dummys. Came to this video to see if I could get more information lol.
Only if you have 7 seconds left on Empowered Shadows and no orb. If not, prio other spells to fish for an orb first. Mindblast without an orb is not prefered. If you mindblast with less than 7 seconds left on Empowered Shadows without an orb, your buff will fall off resulting in dps loss. Better to just refresh dots if needed or mindflay if less than 7 seconds left, it will be more dps.
Not bis class but certainly not bad. You miss one extra dps boost which is berserking racial from troll. BE has benefits for mana management. UD is prefered for PVP bcs of will of the forsaken which also can be handy in pve sometimes.
I don't think I am, bartender is the only one really used here. If you do want a good W/A Though Luxthos is good! Feel free to join the discord and show me a screenshot if i'm mis-remembering regarding the wa though! :D
Ok I see that now, Thanks.....Do you have a profile your giving away? My Priest is 81 so im almost there...... I switched from hunter to SP..... Still have my hunter and thank you for your vids....VERY HELPFULL... Keep them comming...
What kind of stats are you stacking? Also this video doesn't have a perfect rotation, this is basically not a rotation at all. Can you explain what you are doing on single target/multi target
Some of the info about professions u showed were related to wrath rather than Cata, such as tailoring proc effect or ring enchants. Cata has similar effects but not what u showed
Solid info, worth noting SWP snapshots %dmg Increase and Haste so you want to pop Berserking and drop SWP right after a 3 orb Mind Blast with full Evangelism stacks and as much haste as possible. Then just refresh it as always and kill the things. Atleast I'm pretty sure thats how it works
Most of them probably look weak in dungeons because the fights are way too short, they perform much better in longer raid fights especially when there are 1-2 extra chunky adds to cleave. And most dungeon packs are 4, which is a worthless number for SP's as it's almost too many to dot up properly, and too few for mind sear to shine.
I'm a returning player and this helped me alot! Thank you!!
Fade doesn't reset your threat it temporarily removes you from the threat table. Important distinction
Oof. Saw this comment and I assume the video might treat it as feign death. Next guide it is
Yea if you get alot of crits during fade uptime you could even end up having higher threat than before u faded. Best to take a few seconds break during fade to be sure. But if you don't want dps loss you can risk it and hope for the best to not pull agro. 🙏
Why would I not SW: Death on cd? This is how you maintain your mana consumption. Am I missing something?
Yes use on CD. Also open up with mind spike x3 and then dots then mind blast then mind flay
You generally only use sw:d as a filler when moving but if it's a mana intensive fight you should use it as a last resort. Keep in mind using sw:d in combo with some mechanics will kill you, prio dispersion in that case (if fiend on cd ofc).
@@prshr6145 Better to precast vt into sw:p, dp to have more chance at an orb early on. But if you want to risk it you can precast vt into mind spikes to fish for a quick orb but I generally want to play safe. Having all your dots rolling early will give you more chance of an early orb, you also will alrdy have your dots up rolling so you can immediately get into your non-dot spells. Your damage buff after an orb will override your dots anyway when you refresh them so it's a trade off for a bit less dot dmg at start but you will have more chance of getting an orb in return. Overall you will have more secure dps but if you want to fish for an early orb that's totally up to your playstyle.
Hey Javier, how did you drop your mount into the bottom bar. I'm using bartender4, seems the same as you, but it want let me drop in.
Do you need to press shift? I have my bars locked (So I don't accidentally drag things when in combat etc). I think you might have something similar enabled maybe
Missing shadow protection as a buff to give with fort. I also think mass dispell is a better major glyph than inner fire.
Also, your opener shouldn't be vt/dp at the start. You want 5 dark evang and shadow orb buff before you apply them since it's 'snapshotting' . Should be something like: prepull-mind spike (to get faster mb) , swp, mf x5 (hopefully have 1 shadow orb by this point) , mb, vt/dp, mf spam with mb on cd. Also depending on fight, I've found consuming dark evangelism as a good execute phase with mind spike x2, mb, swd swd, mind spike spam to mb/swd on cd. Still testing that though
Do you have a guide somewhere I can read for stuff like this. I didn't see any deep dive videos or write ups like what you're going into.
@danielhardesty6530 I was mostly looking at what the sims were doing and doing my own testing on target dummys. Came to this video to see if I could get more information lol.
Sounds like this guy doesn't actually know what he's doing in the video eh @Linkitcraig
@CatKingCole82 I think the rotation was found on a guide somewhere and it tries to be like the wotlk rotation with some extra steps.
Execution phase mind spike is a no no
Do I need to wait to have 3 shadow orbs to use mind blast or as you said just use mind blast on cd?
You use it on cd
Only if you have 7 seconds left on Empowered Shadows and no orb. If not, prio other spells to fish for an orb first. Mindblast without an orb is not prefered. If you mindblast with less than 7 seconds left on Empowered Shadows without an orb, your buff will fall off resulting in dps loss. Better to just refresh dots if needed or mindflay if less than 7 seconds left, it will be more dps.
Does your spirit show in the hit percentage?? Cause I only have 1.58% hit but most of my gear has spirit
Make sure you are looking on spell hit
Thankyou - I should've really explained this... will remember for next time
I did a blood elf shadow priest is that bad?
Not bis class but certainly not bad. You miss one extra dps boost which is berserking racial from troll. BE has benefits for mana management. UD is prefered for PVP bcs of will of the forsaken which also can be handy in pve sometimes.
What WA are you using in your Shadow Priest Complete DPS Guide | Cataclysm Classic video?
I don't think I am, bartender is the only one really used here. If you do want a good W/A Though Luxthos is good! Feel free to join the discord and show me a screenshot if i'm mis-remembering regarding the wa though! :D
Ok I see that now, Thanks.....Do you have a profile your giving away? My Priest is 81 so im almost there...... I switched from hunter to SP..... Still have my hunter and thank you for your vids....VERY HELPFULL... Keep them comming...
Yeah I can help with a profile for you - join the discord, it's for members only so i'll get ya sorted bro
im using perfect roations with blue/epic gear but still hitting 9k and getting kicked from heroic. i dont understand what i need to do! :(
What kind of stats are you stacking? Also this video doesn't have a perfect rotation, this is basically not a rotation at all. Can you explain what you are doing on single target/multi target
Rolling shadow priest this expansion as my main. Nice info in here.
HELL YEAAHH
Some of the info about professions u showed were related to wrath rather than Cata, such as tailoring proc effect or ring enchants. Cata has similar effects but not what u showed
The enchants etc shown are absolutely, categorically from Cataclysm.
@@JaviHeals they have changed, in cata the tailoring cloak gives intellect not sp, similarly for ring enchants of enchanting
@@JaviHeals They're not tho?
Oh I apologise then in this case!
@@albeshino8875 well int is basically spell power though but also crit
Clear And Concise! Thanks Brah
You're welcome!
don,t you use mind spike in your rotation?
only for target with low life, because mind spike disable dot on the target
How is it that you have 41 talent points? I'm currently at 84 and have only 40, and there is no indication that I'm getting another point.
Still loved the guide though!
The end levels you get a point every level instead of every other
@@big_shrimpin Haha literally just got to 85 and came back to fix this comment
GG to getting to max! Enjoy that last talent bud! 😁 And glad you enjoyed!
@@JaviHeals Thank you so much! I'll be maxing out some meters with the help of your guide!
Solid info, worth noting SWP snapshots %dmg Increase and Haste so you want to pop Berserking and drop SWP right after a 3 orb Mind Blast with full Evangelism stacks and as much haste as possible. Then just refresh it as always and kill the things. Atleast I'm pretty sure thats how it works
this is not correct. please go hit a target dummy.
Does it bug you that mind "flay" isn't spelled "thlay" like "health" and "healf".
спасибо тебе за видео! ебанный в рот хоть кто-то нормально объяснил, что делать надо! спасибо
Spriest seems incredibly weak
Most of them probably look weak in dungeons because the fights are way too short, they perform much better in longer raid fights especially when there are 1-2 extra chunky adds to cleave. And most dungeon packs are 4, which is a worthless number for SP's as it's almost too many to dot up properly, and too few for mind sear to shine.
Not weak but mid, like they always been.
Shafow Priests so broken. Need a hugh Nerf
Nah they’re perfect
Why broken?
Hes just mad he sucks at them.
Learn to type first. SP is mid dps, always been.