Thanks to brilliant.org/TheCynicalHistorian/ for sponsoring this video. Click the link to get 20% off an annual premium subscription Click "read more" for further info, corrections, and bibliography Thanks for watching! Please consider supporting the channel by buying merch: teespring.com/stores/the-cynical-historian Or by donating to my Patreon: www.patreon.com/CynicalHistorian *[reserved for errata]* *Bibliography* Seth Fein, “Film Reviews: Frida,” _American Historical Review_ 108, no. 4 (2003): 1261-63. Margaret A. Lindauer, _Devouring Frida: The Art History and Popular Celebrity of Frida Kahlo_ (Middletown, Conn.: Wesleyan University Press, 1999). Lis Pankl and Kevin Blake, “Made in Her Image: Frida Kahlo as Material Culture,” Material Culture 44, no. 2 (2012): 1-20. Raquel Tibol and Elinor Randall, _Frida Kahlo: An Open Life_ (Albuquerque: University of New Mexico Press, 1993). slate.com/culture/2002/10/does-frida-nail-kahlo-s-life-or-her-art.html www.theguardian.com/film/2010/jun/17/frida-reel-history
It's worth noting how much this film is Salma Hayek's baby. She optioned it, worked to get it made, and even had to fight executive producer Harvey Weinstein for its theatrical release (as well as dealing with his well documented abuse). Edward Norton, who plays Rockefeller in the film and was dating Hayek at the time, did an uncredited and unpaid rewrite on the screenplay as a favor to her. She did this because she wanted to show a different side of Mexican culture, far from the often racist depiction found in typical Hollywood movies. Interestingly, because the Weinsteins had so little faith in the film, they put no money into campaigning for it come awards time, but Salma Hayek was still nominated for Best Actress at the Academy Awards (I believe the first Latina to be nominated in that category) purely on her own merits.
As a Mexican myself, I find funny how people in my country only seemed to care about Frida's artwork after Americans took an interest on it. The same happened with Day of the Dead, which was not really a big deal in Mexico City but after a certain movie came out we have a parade every year.
Also you can thank the Hollywood centric movie industry. Not to say other countries don't have huge film movments, but when US American find something they like, they cant help shove it in everyone's face.
Eh, it was the northern state’s where it took a while to take root. Mostly because it was looked down upon for having indigenous roots. It already was a significant celebration in central Mexico, which is where I’m from.
@@CynicalHistorian The Bond movie was the first parade. For Day of the Dead imagery, look to Jose Guadelupe Posada, printer and engraver based in Mexico City while the muralists were getting their academic artistic training. Posada created satirical Calaveras (skeletons) for newspapers. He awoke the young artists' interest in Mexican themes. Learn about the moralists. Their trinity was Communist Diego Rivera, with his colorful cartoonish images. Siquieros the Stalinist, who did try to kill Trotsky; the deed was accomplished by an undercover agent. Clemente Orozco may have been the greatest artist; he was unconvinced that politics were the answer Frida's art is easier to encompass than the murals mostly in another country. Although he and Clemente Orozco both created murals here. And influenced Americans who created murals, often sponsored by the New Deal
I saw this film on TV when I was Ten. I still can't believe my parents let me watch it with them. I fell in love with Frida's art thru this film. Great video!
Just shows that you had parents who were intelligent and not darkened by religious dogmatism that teaches people that nudity on film is worse than violence.
My Grandfather was Nelson Rockefellers Bodyguard. My mom said when his son disappeared he was destroyed. Never heard any stories about his relation ship with Frida or her Husband however.
So just to clarify the patreon vote for movies will end. However the Based on the true story series will still continue? Also thank you for adding the ethic guidelines for commenting and moderating your comment sections. A lot of UA-camrs don't care or see these flame wars as "engament" and ad cents to help the algorithm. Thank you for trying to keep your domain civil.
I have not seen this movie , but it doesn’t seem like the type of movie I would really enjoy except for the historical context and now that you have done an accurate version of that I am unlikely to spend my time on the film. I will however look into the woman herself more. Thanks for all that you do cypher, you and the podcast the dollop are truly the enlightenment of history I needed in my late 30s to come to better grips with situations around the world. *Big hug*
I knew the film only told part of the story but enjoyed the imagery and the music. Not enough politics? Frida lay in state with the hammer and sickle draped over her casket. There were complaints until Lazaro Cardenas stood guard. Was he the only former Mexican president not considered a crook? (Then there is the story of how his son won the presidency until the computers all went down. They came back up and, hey. It was the PRI candidate after all.) Back to the music: Lila Downs played an unnamed young singer, another one of her lovers. Chavela Vargas, the real character, appears as an ancient woman who sings La Llorona to Frida. Please continue to explore Mexican culture and history. Mexican and Chicano are related but not identical. Then there are the Tejanos... Suggestion: the Tlatelolco massacre, alluded to but not named. US protesters thought Kent State was bad...
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!! This is one of my most favorite historic movies that gets at the agony of some people's lives, even if they mess with some details 😅 Love your work Thank you again!!!
Honestly, i'm just glad to finally know why every american movie vaguely involving mexico has a woman with a unibrow named "frida" Also, is the youtube channel guidelines thing a new feature?
Hey Cypher. The akimbo birdshot handguns aimed at a Che Guevara t-shirt is a hilarious image; and one that has me wondering: 'Is it at the man, t-shirt or both?' I've taken an interest in him as a historical figure for being - as I see it - a man lost in legend; either as a monster or saint. You could say he's lost in 'conspiracy theory' for both left and right. Have you considered doing a video on him to maybe dispell some of the myths that surround him and portray him exactly as he allegedly said he was - while being executed - 'just a man'?
HOW. DID. YOU. KNOW. I. WAS. DOING. MY COURSE PROJECT. ON. FRIDA. THIS TERM. You and I are connected, and its damn creepy Cypher!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You have also literally posted a video on a topic that I was already covering for a different course project a couple months ago.
@@CynicalHistorian Also I wish there was the ability to DM, I've wanted to show off a comment my History professor gave me last term - he said that I had a future potential to become a historian and offered a letter of recommendation!!
Due to the manufacture of America's obsession to worship personalities, I avoided learning anything about Ms. Kahlo. Thanks for shrinking the glamour enough for me to appreciate her as the common fellows we are. Was wondering the other day if Elon Musk had a mono-brow. His hair translpant doesn't look like it was plucked from his lowew bror. Great movie clip and photos of Trotsky too. Never saw him outside of expected textbook photos.
Oh, that honestly makes me even more curious. I first heard about it when I was beginning to look into the Battle of Blair Mountain, but haven't watched it. I suppose it's a skewed portrayal of historical events then.
I greatly admire the work you do, but really, Kahlo was at most peripheral to the Revolutionary movements of her time. Other than her clothing sense... which might be seen today as "cultural appropriation" (especially her Zapoteca outfits) ... and joining this and that demonstration, I really can't find where she was at all politically significant, or considered more than a "hanger on" at political gatherings.
Never said a singular thing about how important she was to radical movements. Think about what you're saying. That's an entirely incorrect interpretation
Thanks to brilliant.org/TheCynicalHistorian/ for sponsoring this video. Click the link to get 20% off an annual premium subscription
Click "read more" for further info, corrections, and bibliography
Thanks for watching! Please consider supporting the channel by buying merch: teespring.com/stores/the-cynical-historian
Or by donating to my Patreon: www.patreon.com/CynicalHistorian
*[reserved for errata]*
*Bibliography*
Seth Fein, “Film Reviews: Frida,” _American Historical Review_ 108, no. 4 (2003): 1261-63.
Margaret A. Lindauer, _Devouring Frida: The Art History and Popular Celebrity of Frida Kahlo_ (Middletown, Conn.: Wesleyan University Press, 1999).
Lis Pankl and Kevin Blake, “Made in Her Image: Frida Kahlo as Material Culture,” Material Culture 44, no. 2 (2012): 1-20.
Raquel Tibol and Elinor Randall, _Frida Kahlo: An Open Life_ (Albuquerque: University of New Mexico Press, 1993).
slate.com/culture/2002/10/does-frida-nail-kahlo-s-life-or-her-art.html
www.theguardian.com/film/2010/jun/17/frida-reel-history
It's worth noting how much this film is Salma Hayek's baby. She optioned it, worked to get it made, and even had to fight executive producer Harvey Weinstein for its theatrical release (as well as dealing with his well documented abuse). Edward Norton, who plays Rockefeller in the film and was dating Hayek at the time, did an uncredited and unpaid rewrite on the screenplay as a favor to her. She did this because she wanted to show a different side of Mexican culture, far from the often racist depiction found in typical Hollywood movies. Interestingly, because the Weinsteins had so little faith in the film, they put no money into campaigning for it come awards time, but Salma Hayek was still nominated for Best Actress at the Academy Awards (I believe the first Latina to be nominated in that category) purely on her own merits.
That's amazing! Good on Salma for not giving up.
Just another reason why Salma is an absolute goddess ☺️
As a Mexican myself, I find funny how people in my country only seemed to care about Frida's artwork after Americans took an interest on it. The same happened with Day of the Dead, which was not really a big deal in Mexico City but after a certain movie came out we have a parade every year.
Was it because of James Bond or that Disney film I'm forgetting the name of
Also you can thank the Hollywood centric movie industry. Not to say other countries don't have huge film movments, but when US American find something they like, they cant help shove it in everyone's face.
Eh, it was the northern state’s where it took a while to take root. Mostly because it was looked down upon for having indigenous roots. It already was a significant celebration in central Mexico, which is where I’m from.
Day of the dead not a big deal? Where in Mexico are you from? My family always treated like a big deal since they’re all religious
@@CynicalHistorian
The Bond movie was the first parade.
For Day of the Dead imagery, look to Jose Guadelupe Posada, printer and engraver based in Mexico City while the muralists were getting their academic artistic training. Posada created satirical Calaveras (skeletons) for newspapers. He awoke the young artists' interest in Mexican themes.
Learn about the moralists. Their trinity was Communist Diego Rivera, with his colorful cartoonish images. Siquieros the Stalinist, who did try to kill Trotsky; the deed was accomplished by an undercover agent. Clemente Orozco may have been the greatest artist; he was unconvinced that politics were the answer
Frida's art is easier to encompass than the murals mostly in another country. Although he and Clemente Orozco both created murals here. And influenced Americans who created murals, often sponsored by the New Deal
I saw this film on TV when I was Ten. I still can't believe my parents let me watch it with them. I fell in love with Frida's art thru this film. Great video!
Just shows that you had parents who were intelligent and not darkened by religious dogmatism that teaches people that nudity on film is worse than violence.
My Grandfather was Nelson Rockefellers Bodyguard. My mom said when his son disappeared he was destroyed. Never heard any stories about his relation ship with Frida or her Husband however.
So just to clarify the patreon vote for movies will end. However the Based on the true story series will still continue?
Also thank you for adding the ethic guidelines for commenting and moderating your comment sections. A lot of UA-camrs don't care or see these flame wars as "engament" and ad cents to help the algorithm.
Thank you for trying to keep your domain civil.
Yeah BoaTS is continuing. I've got episodes for Casino and Last Duel in the works right now
@@CynicalHistorian those are some excellent choices!
Why aren’t more people watching this great video
because it was released only a few hours ago
Because YT didn't show it to me at first
I have not seen this movie , but it doesn’t seem like the type of movie I would really enjoy except for the historical context and now that you have done an accurate version of that I am unlikely to spend my time on the film. I will however look into the woman herself more. Thanks for all that you do cypher, you and the podcast the dollop are truly the enlightenment of history I needed in my late 30s to come to better grips with situations around the world. *Big hug*
I knew the film only told part of the story but enjoyed the imagery and the music.
Not enough politics? Frida lay in state with the hammer and sickle draped over her casket. There were complaints until Lazaro Cardenas stood guard. Was he the only former Mexican president not considered a crook? (Then there is the story of how his son won the presidency until the computers all went down. They came back up and, hey. It was the PRI candidate after all.)
Back to the music: Lila Downs played an unnamed young singer, another one of her lovers. Chavela Vargas, the real character, appears as an ancient woman who sings La Llorona to Frida.
Please continue to explore Mexican culture and history. Mexican and Chicano are related but not identical. Then there are the Tejanos...
Suggestion: the Tlatelolco massacre, alluded to but not named. US protesters thought Kent State was bad...
The transition into the outro is so seamless )
Frida is one of those movies stuck in „My List“ forever… I‘m going to watch it, I swear!
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!! This is one of my most favorite historic movies that gets at the agony of some people's lives, even if they mess with some details 😅
Love your work Thank you again!!!
Honestly, i'm just glad to finally know why every american movie vaguely involving mexico has a woman with a unibrow named "frida"
Also, is the youtube channel guidelines thing a new feature?
As always, an imperial monarch demands the final word.
Long may he reign
Chicano ≠ Mexican
different cultures of same heritage, but I'd argue they're different enough to be considered separate things.
That's why i said "Chicano Movement." If you haven't heard of that, you should learn about it before trying to assign limitations
@@CynicalHistorian I noticed well done, just putting this comment here so people know. A lot of people think they're the same exact thing.
@@CynicalHistorian I could've phrased it differently so it didn't seem like a criticism towards you, everything you said was fine
gotcha, thx
Frida's funeral was wild to say the least. First in Bella's Artes and covered by a strange red flag
Guess she thought that Trotsky was hotsky.
he ended up coldsky to an icepickey to the back of his headsky
Hey Cypher.
The akimbo birdshot handguns aimed at a Che Guevara t-shirt is a hilarious image; and one that has me wondering: 'Is it at the man, t-shirt or both?' I've taken an interest in him as a historical figure for being - as I see it - a man lost in legend; either as a monster or saint. You could say he's lost in 'conspiracy theory' for both left and right. Have you considered doing a video on him to maybe dispell some of the myths that surround him and portray him exactly as he allegedly said he was - while being executed - 'just a man'?
This is just now popping up on my feed even though it was uploaded 12 days ago.
Best history tuber imo
Thank you for giving me entertainment in the office lol
You meanie! Give King the shiny sparkly! You can see he wants it! :-P
Just because you want something doesn’t mean you should get, especially if a cat wants it
@@SunflowerSocialist This is not just a cat, this is King.
I strongly resent you talking about 2002 as if it were a distant, bygone era. ;)
HOW. DID. YOU. KNOW. I. WAS. DOING. MY COURSE PROJECT. ON. FRIDA. THIS TERM. You and I are connected, and its damn creepy Cypher!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You have also literally posted a video on a topic that I was already covering for a different course project a couple months ago.
I am omniscient, that's how. Mwahaha!
@@CynicalHistorian while I am just plain old prescient 😇 I will bet that you'll do this again in the next 4 months!!
@@CynicalHistorian Also I wish there was the ability to DM, I've wanted to show off a comment my History professor gave me last term - he said that I had a future potential to become a historian and offered a letter of recommendation!!
@@lisa._.the._.lovely that's an excellent opportunity. They'll write a great letter then
Thank you for this video :)
Due to the manufacture of America's obsession to worship personalities, I avoided learning anything about Ms. Kahlo. Thanks for shrinking the glamour enough for me to appreciate her as the common fellows we are. Was wondering the other day if Elon Musk had a mono-brow. His hair translpant doesn't look like it was plucked from his lowew bror. Great movie clip and photos of Trotsky too. Never saw him outside of expected textbook photos.
Please don't stop making historical movie reviews.
Please, don't stop 😢
Never said i was stopping
@@CynicalHistorian oh, I thought you said the last one you were going to do. Awesome!
@@formulajuan6038 last Patreon request
@@CynicalHistorian oooohhhh
Got it. Thanks and keep that great content coming man!
At the San Diego house of blues they have her depicted without a unibrow
I humbly submit to the authority of King Richard I. Long may he reign!
Please do Matewan!
I despise that film
@@CynicalHistorian The more the reason to review it.
Oh, that honestly makes me even more curious. I first heard about it when I was beginning to look into the Battle of Blair Mountain, but haven't watched it. I suppose it's a skewed portrayal of historical events then.
I hope FK's life brings a wider audience to Diego's work.
Thank you for sharing King with us xD
The last one? So will there be no more "Based on a True Story" videos? Thanks, btw
Last request taken
@@CynicalHistorian oh? good then, because this content is exactly what i'm subscribing for.
Thank you.
I officially subscribed thanks to King the Cat 😸
It amuses me to think of people buying Guevara tees. Recuperation at its most effective.
Screw that name and fame that didnt make you happy while one is alive... what has one to do with name, fame and money once they are no more alive
Hey, I also have a unibrow
the zapatistas reject the term anarchist
Make Mexico 🇲🇽 Great Again
2nd view, hell yeah
I greatly admire the work you do, but really, Kahlo was at most peripheral to the Revolutionary movements of her time. Other than her clothing sense... which might be seen today as "cultural appropriation" (especially her Zapoteca outfits) ... and joining this and that demonstration, I really can't find where she was at all politically significant, or considered more than a "hanger on" at political gatherings.
Never said a singular thing about how important she was to radical movements. Think about what you're saying. That's an entirely incorrect interpretation
Thanks for flipping off commie Che. That's rare for my generation
I think you missed the point
@@CynicalHistorian lol, well don't tell me. I like my version hahaha. Have a good day and great videos, I'm glad to have subscribed