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*errata* 24:48 - the Einsatzgruppen were part of the SS but operated under OKW (Oberkommando der Wehrmacht) command (thx _Sasuri_ and _Alexandros the Greek)_
*references* Elazar Barkan, “Review of Tango of Slaves, Korczak, and Schindler’s List,” _American Historical Review_ 99, no. 4 (Oct., 1994): 1244-1250. Haim Bredsheeth, Stuart Hood, and Litza Jansz, _Introducing the Holocaust: A Graphic Guide,_ new ed. (1994; Cambridge, UK: Icon Books, 2000). amzn.to/3kcYcAX Jack R. Fischel, _Historical Dictionary of the Holocaust,_ 2nd ed. (Lanham, Mar.: The Scarecrow Press, 2010). amzn.to/3eGl2jc Deborah E. Lipstadt, _Holocaust: An American Understanding_ (New Brunswick, N.Jer.: Rutgers University Press, 2016). amzn.to/3lfFmub Peter Longerich, _Holocaust: The Nazi Persecution and Murder of the Jews_ (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2010), ebook. amzn.to/3p9bVwf Robert C. Reimer and Carol J. Reimer, _Historical Dictionary of Holocaust Cinema_ (Lanham, Mar.: The Scarecrow Press, 2012), 147-149. amzn.to/38n1Jds Jonathan Vankin and John Whalen, _Based on a True Story: Fact and Fantasy in 100 Favorite Movies_ (Chicago: A Cappella Books, 2005), 83-87. amzn.to/2m2sSZQ
“Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.” ― Dwight D. Eisenhower
I remember years ago when I was maybe twelve or thirteen I was out shopping with my mum and there was this old lady by the delicatessen who dropped a lot of change on the floor while she was paying for something. I helped her to pick it up and as she held out her hand for me to put the change back in, I saw a number tattooed across her wrist. I didn't say anything but I knew what it was. She certainly looked old enough to have been a survivor. That's something I think I'll never forget.
@@YTscheiss they dont teach any of that in american school. I only know any of it from my own research. History classes tend to make america the heroes in everything. its why half the country was so easily controlled by trump, no knowledge of actual history.
Believe it or not, I didn't know about these tattoos until an episode of "The Facts of Life." One of the characters, Blair (the blonde chick), was talking to an elderly gentleman and noticed the tattoo on his forearm. SHE knew what it meant, but I didn't, until she and the guy started talking. Really impacted me -- I honestly didn't know! Never thought that show would be educational.
I lived as a WASP in Cleveland Hts., Ohio during the early '70's. A lot of survivors lived there and it was a delicate conversation my Mom had to have with me upon my first encounter with a "marked one". Never forget
My father made me watch this movie when I was 9. I'm 35 now and it still means a lot to me. I watched it again 10 years later and it still made me feel pain. Two years ago I watched it and became overwhelmed with grief. Being a Polish American, and having family that died in the death camps. This history needs to be taught.
I love how nothing is safe when it comes to history on this channel "Look at my cat! Cute isn't he? Now let me tell you about his horrible namesake". Keep up the good content Cypher.
The scariest thing is that people don’t think it can happen again...But it’s already happening to Christians and Muslims in China and people who deny it truly don’t understand the consequences of their actions
@@sikckaputten just gonna clarify what’s going on down there is a mess and needs to be fixed now but is no where near the tragedies of the Holocaust or Camps in China. What’s happening down there is as complete failure of the system to organize immigration but they are well fed, and are not being murdered on an industrial scale
Too true My mum lost her dad and three brothers in the Bosnian civil war. She was interned for half a year in Trnopolje concentration camp because she came from a Muslim family.
From my understanding it has been happening to Muslim populations in India as well. To secular populations in rural parts of Latin America where the church has been been an accomplice top right wing governments. It happened to Jews in Spain, Russia, Romani all across Europe. Let's not fool ourselves there is a small bit of hate within everybody just waiting for someone to open the door to act on it.
@@sikckaputten Yes, the US BORDER PATROL is actively going deep into Mexico to brutally murder Mexicans. Get real, man. Yeah, the treatment of people illegally crossingnthe border isn't ideal, but don't think for a moment that they aren't commiting a crime in their attempts to find a better life for themselves and their families, setting a bad precedent that the laws of the country they're attempting to join don't apply to them. There are plenty of legal avenues towards coming legally and obtaining citizenship, but they choose to ignore those out of selfish stubbornness. Yes, there is a need for immigration reform, and I won't pretend to have the apparent ego you and others like yourself seem to have in thinking I can solve it myself. But don't you *DARE* conflate their plight with that of the victims of the Holocaust. None of those people did any wrong, hell, some of them were there *BECAUSE* they stood up for the victims and tried stopping the horrors, yet all were butchered simply because of who they were and what they believed. You, in comparing the Holocaust and the issues with US immigration are just another conspiracist, not looking at the facts and supplying your own or the ones given you by people that have themselves not done the proper research. It's ignorant and disgusting.
"Kristallnacht" was actually the propaganda term, "Reichsprogromnacht" is the proper historical term. Intestering fact about the film and Amon Göth: Spielberg actually toned him down, because the actual guy was such an insanely cruel fuck that Spielberg thought it would come across as unrealistic if they depicted him as how he actually was.
@@alexhousakos False, the term "(Reichs-)Kristallnacht" was literally used by the NSDAP and their Propaganda Apparatus. The now commonly accepted term is "(Reichs-)Progromnacht".
What's scary about this scene is that Spielberg did a lot of research for this movie. He heard stories from Germans and Poles during the liquidation talking about the man playing the piano while all this chaos was going down. Hence the reason it got added to the film. Spielberg did not know who this person was, but he wanted to show people the kind of man that this guy was. All this misery and death going on, but the dude is like whatevs. Ima play this tune and enjoy myself.
"Sawatski: You're a monster. Hitler: Am I? Then you have to condemn those who elected this monster. Were they all monsters? No. They were ordinary people, who chose to elect an extraordinary man, and entrust the fate of the country to him."
Considering that UA-cam is trying to repress this kind of content as "not advertiser friendly", there was an absurd amount of ads on this. UA-cam's greedy hypocrisy knows no bounds. Thank you for keeping up with the crap and producing quality content!
If this did get demonetized, please let us know as there were many more ads than normal on this video. Also, every one of your videos that I've seen are incredibly well made. Thank you.
Same. I got a curiosity stream add though, and I know that when Polygon does an intel sponsorship that just puts an intel add in from of the video. Edit: got a second non-curisotiy stream add, so that wasn't it.
@@GargamelGold same here UA-cam should really grow a pair otherwise they are no worse than holocaust denier David Irving Did I mention they are complicit in atrocity denial
@@theshenpartei, And that's another reason why it upset me so much when I found out that Chris Chapel of China Uncensored endorses the Stop the Steal conspiracy theory.
Additionally, the peeps who are denying it and spreading lies about are what made videos discussing this topic to be demonetized. Cuz UA-cam's algorithm cannot tell the difference.
23:20 Everything you said in the Reality section is just so on point, so crucial and so amazingly said I couldn’t put it any better or contribute anything further myself. Thank you so much for this video you have no idea how much it means to me and honestly - the whole world.
Great video on a very difficult subject matter. I have only one complaint. Calling that the murders happened in Poland instead of Occupied Poland or German occupied Poland. This often distorts the image and combined with shorting down of Nazi-Germany to just Nazis (which is all kinds of wrong) blurs the reality of Europe´s darkest years. First and foremost, Poland the home of 3.5 million Jews ceased to exist in October 1939 and Nazi-Germany had no intention of keeping a land like Poland around, instead they established the General Government on the occupied pre-1939 Polish territories that were not annexed directly into Nazi-Germany, the Soviet Union, Slovakia or Lithuania. From here on out the Nazi-German occupier began their discrimination and locking the Jews of Poland in ghettos from their Polish neighbors while enacting the death penalty on all Poles who would dare to in any shape or form help or shelter jews who often were their friends and sometime family (only such case in German occupied Europe).
I know this hurts for Polish people to constantly hear Polish deathcamps , but they are not blamed for it at all, The bravery and sacrifice is also not forgotten. The Polish uprising at Warsaw made the SS level Warsaw to the ground (80%+) to repel the uprising. The Polish people earned their right to own their country as a people by hardship and sacrifice.
It's important to note that, by the time Spielberg was making Schindler's List, he had earned a reputation for decent dramatic range as a director. He'd made The Color Purple and Empire of the Sun, both of which were critical hits and earned big Oscar noms. The fact that he was able to pull off something as sober and serious as Schindler's List was not entirely shocking.
"Contrary to loony misconceptions, Nazis were not leftists in any conception of the term." **TIK will remember this, and instead of endeavoring to understand why people keep telling him this, he'll make a whiny video about it.** EDIT: Having seen the film 'Come and See' recently, I see its influence everywhere now - especially in Spielberg's films like this one and Saving Private Ryan.
To put this simply the "socialisim" that the Nazis were proposing was just economic so they are still the Far Right. P. S just because an ultraconservative has socialist economic policies does not make him part of the left.
TIK is an interesting character. His argument about why the Nazis were socialists comes down to a few things as I recall. 1. He uses the definition of socialism as it was in the enlightenment rather than today. 2. From the Nazi viewpoint, jews and gypsies and gay people and the others they persecuted were not people so not part of the "soca" that nazi socialism served. 3. While the Nazis did not directly take over the means of production to serve the aryan (to them, human) race, they did take over production via law and edict. I can buy that argument for as far as it goes, but nothing in it says that the Nazis were socialist in any way that Marx or a modern non-historian would recognize. Cypher may have further take down of TIK. I believe Cypher is far more educated although TIK is very well read.
@@forickgrimaldus8301 Actually the Nazis were not economic left at all. The issue with TIK is that he define socialism without including social hierarchy. Socialism is not "big government" but use of government to flatten income is socialist. However, big government for other purposes is not socialism or left in itself.
Any idea on a release date for the King Richard t shirts? My son is called Richard and he’s a cat fan too this would make a great little present for him 👍
I went with my Modern European class in high school to see this movie when it was in the movie theaters. Granted I was 18, but some of classmates were not, so I just shake my head at how UA-cam censors. BTW.. your kitty is cute.
I was in school when the movie released in Germany in 1993. They had extra runs in the cinemas for schools in the morning and early afternoon. everyone in my school from 8th grade up went to see it with their teachers, several classes per showing. I was 15 at the time. it was bloody damn important.
It's interesting how much ire is directed at Richard I for supposedly being an antisemite, especially among people who aren't Jewish, a la Pompey. Within Jewish history, Richard is actually remembered quite positively for having put down that pogrom, which started only because the Jewish community of London had attempted to pay tribute at his coronation. Richard's regent William de Longchamp did extort the Jewish community in the King's absence, but otherwise England's Jews had more social equality than in France or the Holy Roman Empire, where they were officially servants of the government from birth, possibly owing the the fact that Medieval English Jews were Francophone rather than Anglophone. The real monster is Edward Longshanks, which is great because absolutely everyone has a reason to hate him.
Hey there! Thanks a million for this video in particular. I’ve been following you for a while now and this movie had a huge impact on me. Anyway, thanks again and also for introducing me this awesome streaming, became a member on the spot!
I remember learning about the Holocaust in the Seventh Grade from my Geography Teacher, Mr. Barlow, when he taught us about WWII. Adding to it was my English Teacher, Ms. Trotter. She survived a Nazi Concentration Camp as a child. She was taken in by some relatives who escaped to the US just before WWII broke out. She described the barracks and the living conditions, but never really talked about the torture. After that, I could never watch such an insulting show like "Hogan's Heroes" ever again. I could not buy the comedy behind such an evil empire like the Nazis. One bit of trivia on Schindler's List: Steven Spielberg related the story that during the six week shoot in the concentration camps, the mood on set was very somber and depressing. After about three weeks, Spielberg was feeling so sad and depressed, that he called his friend, Robin Williams and explained what was happening, and asked the comedian/actor to cheer him up. Spielberg said within a couple of minutes, Robin's improv jokes (which were NOT about the Holocaust) had the director on the floor in stitches. By the way, I never knew that Nazis also targeted Jehovah Witnesses, too. While that religion is truly fucked up and severely oppressive, I would never wish Nazi brutality against them.
You alluded to it, but I'll explain a little more. Claude Lanzmann, director of the nine hour documentary Shoah, had something interesting things to say about Schindlers List. He said quote, "kitschy melodrama" and a "deformation" of historical truth. "Fiction is a transgression, I am deeply convinced that there is a ban on depiction [of the Holocaust]", Lanzmann also criticized Spielberg for viewing the Holocaust through the eyes of a German, saying "it is the world in reverse." He complained, "I sincerely thought that there was a time before Shoah, and a time after Shoah, and that after Shoah certain things could no longer be done. Spielberg did them anyway." Yeah... those are some hot takes. I know Stanley Kubrick also jumped in saying its about 600 people who lived, not 6 million who died. Pretty sure Jean Luc Goddard accused the film of profiting from senseless tragedy as well. Its fascinating to see so many people dogpile on the film for flaws that I don't personally see as fair.
I watched this movie not long ago. At first it was my usual movie viewing, even at the first deaths I was still in my regular mood. But then the killing didn't end and only got more brutal. Towards the 2nd act I was constantly on edge, but when it got near the end It became hard to watch. It was during the scene where the bodies are burnt that I became desperate, almost like I was bargaining with the film for the atrocities to stop. When it was over my heart finally calmed down into a deep sadness, when Schindler said "I didn't do enough" Is when the whole thing hit me at once and i started crying. This single line has become so powerful to me that whenever I hear it now tears fill my eyes. This movie is a masterpiece that will never be topped for me, it's the best movie that I've ever watched.
Videos like this one (and others in this collaboration) ought to be promoted, not superseded! I have to say that I have one small issue with Schindler’s List that wasn't addressed in the video but we can see it in it. At 19:40 the text on the screen reads "September 1939, the German forces defeated the Polish Army in two weeks.". You can consider it a minor detail and it can be argued that it is rather unprecise than strictly untrue, but for me, this is very misleading and honestly, a bit insulting. Yes, by September 14 it was clear that the Polish Army is going to lose the campaign (unless, maybe, if the French and British would immediately lunch a major offensive in the West, as they promised to do), and the units that weren't cut off began retreating towards the South-Eastern part of the country, from where they could evacuate to Romania, but they still fought on! The Soviet forces invaded on September 17, as de facto active allies of Germany, ultimately deciding the campaign, yet the resistance of the Polish Army continued. Warsaw held until September 28, Hel Peninsula until October 2. The battle of Kock was fought 2-5 October. Only the capitulation of Gen. Kleeberg following day is considered the official end of the defence of Poland, even though some scattered remains of other units fought even longer, but they are considered the first partisans of WW2 from this point. I hope it wasn't too rant-like on my part. On a lighter note, King Richard is indeed a very handsome feline fellow! Have you considered creating a second channel with videos featuring him? Sort of low-effort content that UA-cam loves, to support and possibly promote the main channel (it was a joke when I started writing it, but now I'm genuinely beginning to think this might be something to consider).
Here in Switzerland we have our Schindler: his name was Paul Grüninger, he was a police officer who let many Jewish refugees into Switzerland (illegaly) and got discharged and put on trial for it. His name is on the Yad Vashem memorial, but swiss history school programs barely talk about him, if at all. We also have a very powerful nationalist party constantly standing in the way of historians, claiming that anything that doesn't fit their narrative on Switzerland's actions in WW2 is leftist rewriting of history.
I graduated high school in 1969, we learned nothing about the Holocaust. All knowledge I have came from reading, studying and visiting Germany. My grandfather and grandmother immigrated from Germany and had 3 sons fighting for the allies. No one, not school or family talked about it. Sad.
I met the Granddaughter of Amon Goth who is Ms. Jennifer Teege who talked about this and wrote a book call My Grandfather Would Have Shot Me for being black and mix. It was very sad.
Man, as a german i ve heard and seen all this like literally 1000 times but this neutral delivery brought me to tears. Also btw, thanks youtube for interupting a sentence of mass-killing by an underwear-add. This is probably why youtube doesnt want these vids
My best friend (who happens to be gay, too) has both Jewish and Romany ancestry. Her grands got out in time, but most of their families didn't. Dunno what's more depressing, all the families destroyed or the fact there are so many damned people who argue either it never happened or wasn't really as bad as it really was. My husband, blond and blue eyed though he be, wouldn't have been safe either. He's congenitally blind. (It, by the way, did NOT pass on to our children.
It is difficult for me to watch movies in general so I'm appreciative of historical reviews like yours... Please don't be discouraged... I'm a new fan and plan on watching as much of your content as possible...
The first half of this video is the best short summary of the holocaust I have ever seen. Covers all important parts including what happened before and after, accurate, emotionally neutral, and not too long. Very well done.
what about The Rose Garden? That one didn't really "shy away" from the subject matter while having mass appeal, insomuch as a movie of this subject can, and predates Schindler's List by 4 years.
Great, very solid film, alas not very well known. One thing I liked a lot was that there's no music in it, except for the end titles music and it was completely bone chilling.
i find it absolutely hilarious that you named the laser pointer saladin. you have now answered the burning question that I didn't even know I desired to be answered - how do historians name their cats.
As always, Cypher, this video was excellently produced and provides an important cautionary tale: No one is free from control of the grips of evil. The Nazis get a lot of attention as the main cartoon villain in much of our media (pick your example; mine is Wolfenstein), but there are numerous others who are guilty of genocidal crimes (again, pick your examples; my top three are Japan, the Khmer Rough and the US) and each of them have their own harrowing stories. We need to keep the history of these events alive so we can prevent them from happening again.
Thank you so much for making this video! I really appreciate all the work that you goes into making sure your videos are accurate and entertaining. I love history and it's great to be able to watch a channel that takes it seriously. I'm really sorry UA-cam is treating you so poorly and restricting this video!
It would be also great to see your take on The Pianist. I wonder which movie do you prefer? Also, have you seen or at least heard about Korczak by Andrzej Wajda?
I know this video is over 2 years old now, but I'm happy I found it and your channel. Most likely took so long due to UA-cam and it's appalling censorship. (and good on you for calling them out on their BS right off the bat). Also I don't want this coming off as silly because I am dead serious. Thank you for including the sanity breaks with your cat. Seriously my mind and stomach and everything end up feeling so sick at how this happened not even 100 years ago, but I am adamant of needing a constant reminder so it may never slip from mine or the public's consciousness. That being said it is super depressing , but a small break in-between is a great reminder of all the good in this world we have as well. I wish more people included things like that in these kinds of videos. Thank you for the video and your good character. I look forward to checking out more videos on your channel.
A good movie that I think depicts the Banality of Evil is “Conspiracy”. While it has plenty of inaccuracies, the film is largely based on the actual transcript of the Wannsee conference, and it shows it as basically a business meeting, where these enemies of humanity are enjoying fine wine, food and cigars while politely discussing the most horrific things, and it shows some of the attendees as reluctant to support the measures proposed for various reasons, but never questioning the underlying assumptions, and to top it off, it stars actors like Brendan Coyle, Collin Firth, Stanley Tucci and Kenneth Branagh which makes the banality of evil all the more real.
Those lines about how every human can do something this terrible needs to be repeated. Just look at the Milgram experiment and the foot in the door effect. If you can get people to accept a little of something, you can take full advantage of making them do more and more. Combine that with the factors described in the Milgram experiment, and you get hell on Earth.
Hey Cypher, I just wanted to say thanks for doing what you do. It's really good to see someone who doesn't shy away from UA-cam's censorious bull on these subjects. And your cat is totes adorbs.
Schindler’s List is a historical fiction movie based on a historical fiction book that mixes real people events with fictional people and events. With regards to historical accuracy, I would expect it to be somewhere intermediate between "Band of Brothers" and "Saving Private Ryan".
Well done yet again sir. I’ve been a fan of yours for years and continue to follow your work. If I had the dough to spare I would patron and check out your work on other platforms. Thank you for your many services 🙏🏾. Keep moving forward.
A really great video Cypher, I'd also love your take on other similar (yet lesser known) characters like Sugihara Chiune and Ho Feng Shan and perhaps even the role of the Dominican Republic during that time.
One of the "characters?" in the film was the individual most influential in getting Oskar Schindler's story told first as a novel and then as a film. I'd recommend looking up some of the interviews he's given that are here on UA-cam, his name is Leopold Page or Poldek Pfefferberg. He was at multiple forks in the road of history that had he made a different decision could have easily died. He first served as an officer in the Polish army and fought in the defense of Poland. He had the choice of being a German or Soviet POW and chose German, thinking they would be more more humane since they signed the Geneva convention. The Polish officers who became Soviet POWs were killed in Katyn forest or elsewhere. He survived the Holocaust as a Schindler Jew, but in multiple cases could have been shot on sight. One of those times is shown in Schindler's List, when the man salutes the SS officers when the Krakow ghetto is being liquidated. Another story he tells of is getting beat up by a SS officer in a camp, but basically earned the respect of the officer by not defending himself and telling the officer off when he asked why. This is just a handful of his stories. The man is such an inspiration to the human spirit.
The "banality of evil" point is one of the most important ones. Non of us should be on that high horse thinking "we wouldn't have enabled or furthered the evil", but realize those were normal humans.
To put this into perspective during the Middle ages looting is not abhorent so long as th besieged was not surrending, also the fact that at the time persecution of minorities was the norm, not even the more open near east at the time as even they tend to have strict policies against non muslims (such as tax laws that make it difficult to be a religious minority and at times e. g in the case of the Moors of Spain forced the locals to convert or be exiled which the later Spanish just copied.)
I wrote my thesis on the impact of war on the holocaust, how it was far more a "natural" evolution of policy than anything planned in advance. I've not encountered many others that agree with me. Thank you.
I am a bit surprised: The functionalist school is state of the art in Holocaust science. The intentionalist reading is pretty much fallen out of favour since the 80s.
You are the first person I've heard say that the Romans removed the Jews from Palestine and spread them throughout Europe as an organized plan. I've often wondered how they came to have communities in European cities as opposed to coming together somewhere else and founding their own country when Rome put down the rebellions. I know the diaspora happened, but I didn't know it was a specific Roman plan to deal with the rebellions. I don't doubt it, but what's your source? I want to read about it.
King Richard I (the cat) is like a beacon of hope in this video where I just can’t help but bawl my eyes out. But King Richard I being in this video to brighten my day gives me back hope for the world. 💛
Hi Cypher. I really want to thank you for making these videos and making sure history is not forgotten. It is a shame what is going on in the world we live in. It was my birthday on the January 27th when you posted this. I really really like this movie. Anyway, just wanted to thank you for making these videos. I really enjoy them and I am trying to convince more people to watch your videos than watch Hollywood History movies. Not saying they are all bad, but a good number of them are fiction than history. I love history and I want to learn more.
Please do Thin Red Line which has nothing to do with the Holocaust but about the Guadalcanal campaign. Albeit the later part of the campaign. It came out in the same year as Saving Private Ryan.
I myself made a video on how the Holocaust is represented in media in my UA-cam channel. And guess who restrict it's age view? I can't believe that. It's so awful to think that an international platform does not want teens to learn or discuss any thing about the Holocaust. As a Jew myself from Israel (and I'm proud of it) it's disgusting. It's like UA-cam team thinks: "How we gonna make David Irving like are platform?"
The Shindler's List film is definitely a masterpiece despite some little inaccuracies and a big question about who was really Shindler himself. He is a very controversial and ambiguous character. He was basically a loser who failed in anything he was undertaking but, as a matter of fact, he did save jews. Where his sincerity lies? I don't know. The fact that he dared to sell the ring he has been offered by "his jews" raises serious questions in my mind. Anyway I agree with most of what you say, especially the conclusion. Good video Just 2 "technical details: 1. The "gas vans" used carbon monoxyde, not dioxyde, from the engine exhaust. In the gas chambers they didn't use carbon dioxyde either but Zyklon B which was basically a cyanide-based pesticide. Just unthinkable ... 2. The Einsatzgruppen were not an "elite" of intellectuals but was mainly composed of people coming from the middle class (shop-owners, craftsmen, policemen, primary school teachers, etc...) This doesn't make them less guilty but just to be accurate.
This is a movie that I am on the fence on. I ended up watching it late after all the internet reposts of scenes, so I knew what it was about a Nazi, which put a bad taste in my mouth, but the amount of love for the film got me to watch it. Knowing now who Schindler was due to the film, my outlook on it is a bit more positive than it was before I had watched it. However there is one issue I have with the film: it re-humanizes Schindler to an extent that I don't agree with, almost ignoring at the end of it that, while he did save many Jewish people by keeping them out of the camps, he still exploited them and used them effectively as slave labour, and still committed crimes worthy of putting him on the run as the film mentions.
First, you have a very cute cat, and as a fellow cat owner I appreciate the video of him. Second, I appreciate you doing a video of this movie and appreciate the fact it is so historically accurate. Obviously no movie is perfect, but the fact this one gets it right more than not is a net positive. I’ve seen this movie several times, and it’s one that should be viewed in schools in history class. Also wanted to ask if you ever saw the miniseries Winds of War/War and Remembrance; from the book of the same name by Herman Wouk? If not check it out.
Thank you for the breaks featuring His Highness. I have yet to be able watch Schindler's List beginning to end. A movie I found especially disturbing, that does not show the graphic horror, is Conspiracy. They seemed so logical and reasoned in their discussions.
It’s funny cuz me and everyone I know learned about the Holocaust in middle school, so UA-cam age restricting content on this subject is ignoring the US educational system
But do they still teach it in middle school in this day and age? One would expect governments keep the masses ignorant, so when they support a new genocide like in China, no one will protest
@@robinderoos1166 I was in middle school less than a decade ago, my sister just got into high school and my little brother is in middle school. Same curriculum
For me it was 6th grade in the late 90's. We even went to the museum in DC on a school field trip. Read Daniel's Story and Anne Frank. Christ, UA-cam we were like 10 or 11.
I still Remember asking my science teacher in 6th grade why she had numbers tattooed on her arm and she gave me a look i never forgot. I never asked again when my dad told me what it was
If you haven't already, check out War and Remembrance. It's a bit soap-operary, but the graphic imagery Dan Curtis was able to portray is tough to stomach 32 years on. It is, by far, the most gut-wrenching thing I've ever watched. I'd also recommend the predecessor Winds of War, but Remembrance is pretty long on its own. And if you have the time, I'd also recommend the books on which they're based.
On behalf of all my Jewish brothers and sisters, I want to thank you for stepping up and making this video. It's not easy, especially on a platform as corrupt as UA-cam. Thank you for all of your hard work.
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UA-cam has deleted comments, and is supposedly working to fix the problem. See following replies for corrections and citations, but first, here is the Project Shoah playlist: ua-cam.com/play/PLTZaOylOgJT-op_3d-UJebBuzRUSEe0Gi.html
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24:48 - the Einsatzgruppen were part of the SS but operated under OKW (Oberkommando der Wehrmacht) command (thx _Sasuri_ and _Alexandros the Greek)_
*references*
Elazar Barkan, “Review of Tango of Slaves, Korczak, and Schindler’s List,” _American Historical Review_ 99, no. 4 (Oct., 1994): 1244-1250.
Haim Bredsheeth, Stuart Hood, and Litza Jansz, _Introducing the Holocaust: A Graphic Guide,_ new ed. (1994; Cambridge, UK: Icon Books, 2000). amzn.to/3kcYcAX
Jack R. Fischel, _Historical Dictionary of the Holocaust,_ 2nd ed. (Lanham, Mar.: The Scarecrow Press, 2010). amzn.to/3eGl2jc
Deborah E. Lipstadt, _Holocaust: An American Understanding_ (New Brunswick, N.Jer.: Rutgers University Press, 2016). amzn.to/3lfFmub
Peter Longerich, _Holocaust: The Nazi Persecution and Murder of the Jews_ (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2010), ebook. amzn.to/3p9bVwf
Robert C. Reimer and Carol J. Reimer, _Historical Dictionary of Holocaust Cinema_ (Lanham, Mar.: The Scarecrow Press, 2012), 147-149. amzn.to/38n1Jds
Jonathan Vankin and John Whalen, _Based on a True Story: Fact and Fantasy in 100 Favorite Movies_ (Chicago: A Cappella Books, 2005), 83-87. amzn.to/2m2sSZQ
Did italy commit holocaust too?
@@putinsharmalaimayum1411 They supported it for the most part the answer is yes
@@limondorn1494 ok
Cypher, I hate to break it to you, but your cat doesn’t love you, it’s just using you for your money.
😒😼
That's every cat, they use you then abandon you
I dont remeber where i heard it but;
”To the dog, youre a family member.
For the cat, You are a servent”
Good reference
And your magical ability to open cans.
“Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.”
― Dwight D. Eisenhower
Perfect quote
WE SHOULD LOCK UP EVER DENYER NOW!
@Panther ASAP who is exactly are you talking about?
@Panther ASAP enjoy comment Purgatory you Nazi fuckboy
It's sad that "somewhere down the road of time" meant not even 50 years after.
I remember years ago when I was maybe twelve or thirteen I was out shopping with my mum and there was this old lady by the delicatessen who dropped a lot of change on the floor while she was paying for something. I helped her to pick it up and as she held out her hand for me to put the change back in, I saw a number tattooed across her wrist. I didn't say anything but I knew what it was. She certainly looked old enough to have been a survivor. That's something I think I'll never forget.
@@YTscheiss they dont teach any of that in american school. I only know any of it from my own research. History classes tend to make america the heroes in everything. its why half the country was so easily controlled by trump, no knowledge of actual history.
@@alylee3393 they teach the Holocaust but they don’t teach the Armenian
Believe it or not, I didn't know about these tattoos until an episode of "The Facts of Life." One of the characters, Blair (the blonde chick), was talking to an elderly gentleman and noticed the tattoo on his forearm. SHE knew what it meant, but I didn't, until she and the guy started talking. Really impacted me -- I honestly didn't know! Never thought that show would be educational.
I lived as a WASP in Cleveland Hts., Ohio during the early '70's. A lot of survivors lived there and it was a delicate conversation my Mom had to have with me upon my first encounter with a "marked one". Never forget
"Those that can make you believe in absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire (1694-1778).
Bigots won´t learn and don´t want to learn.
I.C.E intensifies
@@unclesam5230 I see what you did there no
Bigots are everywhere...left right center...the whole it’s those guys trope is human nature
@@Skabanis Their are bigots on the left. For the right bigotry has always been the defining characteristic of the movement.
I'm willing to bet you know next to nothing when it comes to NS.
My father made me watch this movie when I was 9. I'm 35 now and it still means a lot to me. I watched it again 10 years later and it still made me feel pain. Two years ago I watched it and became overwhelmed with grief. Being a Polish American, and having family that died in the death camps. This history needs to be taught.
I’m never gonna forget the part where he breaks down and says if I could’ve saved one more. Damm this is why we love Spielberg.
I love how nothing is safe when it comes to history on this channel
"Look at my cat! Cute isn't he? Now let me tell you about his horrible namesake".
Keep up the good content Cypher.
Having a cat named for a historical figure, then pivoting to the actions of that figure? Legendary segue.
The scariest thing is that people don’t think it can happen again...But it’s already happening to Christians and Muslims in China and people who deny it truly don’t understand the consequences of their actions
@@sikckaputten just gonna clarify what’s going on down there is a mess and needs to be fixed now but is no where near the tragedies of the Holocaust or Camps in China. What’s happening down there is as complete failure of the system to organize immigration but they are well fed, and are not being murdered on an industrial scale
Too true
My mum lost her dad and three brothers in the Bosnian civil war. She was interned for half a year in Trnopolje concentration camp because she came from a Muslim family.
From my understanding it has been happening to Muslim populations in India as well. To secular populations in rural parts of Latin America where the church has been been an accomplice top right wing governments. It happened to Jews in Spain, Russia, Romani all across Europe. Let's not fool ourselves there is a small bit of hate within everybody just waiting for someone to open the door to act on it.
@@sikckaputten
Yes, the US BORDER PATROL is actively going deep into Mexico to brutally murder Mexicans. Get real, man. Yeah, the treatment of people illegally crossingnthe border isn't ideal, but don't think for a moment that they aren't commiting a crime in their attempts to find a better life for themselves and their families, setting a bad precedent that the laws of the country they're attempting to join don't apply to them. There are plenty of legal avenues towards coming legally and obtaining citizenship, but they choose to ignore those out of selfish stubbornness. Yes, there is a need for immigration reform, and I won't pretend to have the apparent ego you and others like yourself seem to have in thinking I can solve it myself.
But don't you *DARE* conflate their plight with that of the victims of the Holocaust. None of those people did any wrong, hell, some of them were there *BECAUSE* they stood up for the victims and tried stopping the horrors, yet all were butchered simply because of who they were and what they believed.
You, in comparing the Holocaust and the issues with US immigration are just another conspiracist, not looking at the facts and supplying your own or the ones given you by people that have themselves not done the proper research. It's ignorant and disgusting.
@Hunter N
Don't forget Tibet and China's attempts to wipe out their culture.
This is the darkest cat video I've watched.
"Kristallnacht" was actually the propaganda term, "Reichsprogromnacht" is the proper historical term.
Intestering fact about the film and Amon Göth: Spielberg actually toned him down, because the actual guy was such an insanely cruel fuck that Spielberg thought it would come across as unrealistic if they depicted him as how he actually was.
Goodness. Imagine if Tarantino got ahold of it.
@@bigtay522 too late
The historical term is Kristallnacht. Can also be called as Novemberpogrome.
You will find no person/book calling it "Reichsprogromnacht"
@@alexhousakos Interesting: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichspogromnacht
@@alexhousakos False, the term "(Reichs-)Kristallnacht" was literally used by the NSDAP and their Propaganda Apparatus. The now commonly accepted term is "(Reichs-)Progromnacht".
"And I'll see you guys next time. And I'll see you guys next time. " Cynical Historian 2021
LMAO
"Get the papers, Get the papers-"
He forgot his own history, and was doomed to repeat it. Apt for a video like this.
The most disturbing thing about this movie for me was the ss officer playing the piano during the liquidation of the Krakow Ghetto.
Like he wasn’t even dazed by the noise. This was less than business to him.
What's scary about this scene is that Spielberg did a lot of research for this movie. He heard stories from Germans and Poles during the liquidation talking about the man playing the piano while all this chaos was going down. Hence the reason it got added to the film. Spielberg did not know who this person was, but he wanted to show people the kind of man that this guy was. All this misery and death going on, but the dude is like whatevs. Ima play this tune and enjoy myself.
Liam Neeson did an exceptional job portraying Oskar Schindler.
It's by far his best role
@@mikhailv67tv i think his portrayal as Michael Collins was better
@@jurtra9090 okay, "bloody mayham".... I enjoyed it but Here Direcktor I believe better.
@@jurtra9090 Agreed. He was reading about Collins during breaks on the set of Schindler's List, ironically.
Way to call out UA-cam, and thanks for the content
"Sawatski: You're a monster.
Hitler: Am I? Then you have to condemn those who elected this monster. Were they all monsters? No. They were ordinary people, who chose to elect an extraordinary man, and entrust the fate of the country to him."
Considering that UA-cam is trying to repress this kind of content as "not advertiser friendly", there was an absurd amount of ads on this. UA-cam's greedy hypocrisy knows no bounds.
Thank you for keeping up with the crap and producing quality content!
If this did get demonetized, please let us know as there were many more ads than normal on this video.
Also, every one of your videos that I've seen are incredibly well made. Thank you.
Wow this is demonetized, I got 8 ads anyways that is some bull, especially bc you can't change it at all
Odd, I didn’t get a single ad.
I’ve got seven ads. Greedy bastards
@@jamesmcclaskey4610 I got 8 ads
@@jamesmcclaskey4610 I only got 1 ad
Same. I got a curiosity stream add though, and I know that when Polygon does an intel sponsorship that just puts an intel add in from of the video. Edit: got a second non-curisotiy stream add, so that wasn't it.
I love it when cypher calls out the BS that UA-cam does
made me subscribe
The Shen Partei,
I love it as well, but I hate when he has to do it.
@@GargamelGold same here UA-cam should really grow a pair otherwise they are no worse than holocaust denier David Irving
Did I mention they are complicit in atrocity denial
@@GargamelGold and they are complicit in genocide to with what is going on xinjiang
@@theshenpartei,
And that's another reason why it upset me so much when I found out that Chris Chapel of China Uncensored endorses the Stop the Steal conspiracy theory.
Makes me nauseated to know that people deny this.
It makes me angry or mighty pissed
Additionally, the peeps who are denying it and spreading lies about are what made videos discussing this topic to be demonetized. Cuz UA-cam's algorithm cannot tell the difference.
@@prexp9026 and this is why I slowly hate UA-cam overtime it’s because of nonsense like that they do
@@theshenpartei They're over correcting and don't care if they do.
@@prexp9026 or just too lazy to get off their digital couches
I’d love to see you do a video on Defiance. It seems to be an incredibly overlooked movie.
Also a fan of Defiance. Daniel Craig was great.
What is that movie about
@@Tommyspaghetti so it’s like the boys from Brazil or inglorious basterds aka quinton Tarantino’s wolfenstein
I’m glad you addressed the other targets, they too often get ignored as they aren’t as numerous or widespread
I’m here before the Nazis forced Cypher to shut down the comment section
surprisingly, they are not here yet...
Calling UA-cam "Nazis" is an insult to the Nazis. 😄
23:20 Everything you said in the Reality section is just so on point, so crucial and so amazingly said I couldn’t put it any better or contribute anything further myself. Thank you so much for this video you have no idea how much it means to me and honestly - the whole world.
I was literally just watching some stuff about Schindler and then I see this is uploaded. Stop spying on me Cypher!
Mid night from your closet: Hey! Cypher here
Great video on a very difficult subject matter. I have only one complaint. Calling that the murders happened in Poland instead of Occupied Poland or German occupied Poland. This often distorts the image and combined with shorting down of Nazi-Germany to just Nazis (which is all kinds of wrong) blurs the reality of Europe´s darkest years. First and foremost, Poland the home of 3.5 million Jews ceased to exist in October 1939 and Nazi-Germany had no intention of keeping a land like Poland around, instead they established the General Government on the occupied pre-1939 Polish territories that were not annexed directly into Nazi-Germany, the Soviet Union, Slovakia or Lithuania. From here on out the Nazi-German occupier began their discrimination and locking the Jews of Poland in ghettos from their Polish neighbors while enacting the death penalty on all Poles who would dare to in any shape or form help or shelter jews who often were their friends and sometime family (only such case in German occupied Europe).
I know this hurts for Polish people to constantly hear Polish deathcamps , but they are not blamed for it at all,
The bravery and sacrifice is also not forgotten.
The Polish uprising at Warsaw made the SS level Warsaw to the ground (80%+) to repel the uprising.
The Polish people earned their right to own their country as a people by hardship and sacrifice.
TEAM UA-cam IS COMPLICIT IN GENOCIDE DENIAL, I at least, will not drop that bone.
Thanks for this channel, Cypher.
I know I never have. I've been watching Cypher since a short time after his channel appeared in '18.
It's important to note that, by the time Spielberg was making Schindler's List, he had earned a reputation for decent dramatic range as a director. He'd made The Color Purple and Empire of the Sun, both of which were critical hits and earned big Oscar noms. The fact that he was able to pull off something as sober and serious as Schindler's List was not entirely shocking.
"Contrary to loony misconceptions, Nazis were not leftists in any conception of the term." **TIK will remember this, and instead of endeavoring to understand why people keep telling him this, he'll make a whiny video about it.** EDIT: Having seen the film 'Come and See' recently, I see its influence everywhere now - especially in Spielberg's films like this one and Saving Private Ryan.
I thougt of him. He has some good points on the subject
To put this simply the "socialisim" that the Nazis were proposing was just economic so they are still the Far Right.
P. S just because an ultraconservative has socialist economic policies does not make him part of the left.
@@forickgrimaldus8301 It is a bit too simple in my opinion. Was Stalin right wing or left wing in your view?
TIK is an interesting character. His argument about why the Nazis were socialists comes down to a few things as I recall.
1. He uses the definition of socialism as it was in the enlightenment rather than today.
2. From the Nazi viewpoint, jews and gypsies and gay people and the others they persecuted were not people so not part of the "soca" that nazi socialism served.
3. While the Nazis did not directly take over the means of production to serve the aryan (to them, human) race, they did take over production via law and edict.
I can buy that argument for as far as it goes, but nothing in it says that the Nazis were socialist in any way that Marx or a modern non-historian would recognize.
Cypher may have further take down of TIK. I believe Cypher is far more educated although TIK is very well read.
@@forickgrimaldus8301 Actually the Nazis were not economic left at all. The issue with TIK is that he define socialism without including social hierarchy. Socialism is not "big government" but use of government to flatten income is socialist. However, big government for other purposes is not socialism or left in itself.
Any idea on a release date for the King Richard t shirts?
My son is called Richard and he’s a cat fan too this would make a great little present for him 👍
As soon as it's approved on TeeSpring
@@CynicalHistorian I want 2 one of the cat and the ban hammer v Wilson one
You should probably write under the Richard cartoon art for the memes.
"Deus Vult! Bigots get banned" or "Wilsonnnnn! Heresssssyy!"
I went with my Modern European class in high school to see this movie when it was in the movie theaters. Granted I was 18, but some of classmates were not, so I just shake my head at how UA-cam censors. BTW.. your kitty is cute.
I was in school when the movie released in Germany in 1993. They had extra runs in the cinemas for schools in the morning and early afternoon. everyone in my school from 8th grade up went to see it with their teachers, several classes per showing. I was 15 at the time. it was bloody damn important.
I was literally on the verge of tears halfway through the video when you brought out His Majesty.
It's interesting how much ire is directed at Richard I for supposedly being an antisemite, especially among people who aren't Jewish, a la Pompey. Within Jewish history, Richard is actually remembered quite positively for having put down that pogrom, which started only because the Jewish community of London had attempted to pay tribute at his coronation. Richard's regent William de Longchamp did extort the Jewish community in the King's absence, but otherwise England's Jews had more social equality than in France or the Holy Roman Empire, where they were officially servants of the government from birth, possibly owing the the fact that Medieval English Jews were Francophone rather than Anglophone.
The real monster is Edward Longshanks, which is great because absolutely everyone has a reason to hate him.
I've heard it both ways. Do you have a recommendation for further reading, preferably one that draws upon whatever historical documents still survive?
A lot of people in the Middle ages was against religious minorities, so it was not really all that special.
At the end of WW2, the world said never again. Except for: Cambodia Bosnia Uganda Rwanda Sudan Tibet Xinjiang
Don't forget the US imprisoning Mexicans.
@@linda10989 omg no
And Indonesia
Hey there! Thanks a million for this video in particular. I’ve been following you for a while now and this movie had a huge impact on me. Anyway, thanks again and also for introducing me this awesome streaming, became a member on the spot!
I remember learning about the Holocaust in the Seventh Grade from my Geography Teacher, Mr. Barlow, when he taught us about WWII. Adding to it was my English Teacher, Ms. Trotter. She survived a Nazi Concentration Camp as a child. She was taken in by some relatives who escaped to the US just before WWII broke out. She described the barracks and the living conditions, but never really talked about the torture. After that, I could never watch such an insulting show like "Hogan's Heroes" ever again. I could not buy the comedy behind such an evil empire like the Nazis.
One bit of trivia on Schindler's List: Steven Spielberg related the story that during the six week shoot in the concentration camps, the mood on set was very somber and depressing. After about three weeks, Spielberg was feeling so sad and depressed, that he called his friend, Robin Williams and explained what was happening, and asked the comedian/actor to cheer him up. Spielberg said within a couple of minutes, Robin's improv jokes (which were NOT about the Holocaust) had the director on the floor in stitches.
By the way, I never knew that Nazis also targeted Jehovah Witnesses, too. While that religion is truly fucked up and severely oppressive, I would never wish Nazi brutality against them.
You alluded to it, but I'll explain a little more. Claude Lanzmann, director of the nine hour documentary Shoah, had something interesting things to say about Schindlers List. He said quote,
"kitschy melodrama" and a "deformation" of historical truth. "Fiction is a transgression, I am deeply convinced that there is a ban on depiction [of the Holocaust]",
Lanzmann also criticized Spielberg for viewing the Holocaust through the eyes of a German, saying "it is the world in reverse." He complained, "I sincerely thought that there was a time before Shoah, and a time after Shoah, and that after Shoah certain things could no longer be done. Spielberg did them anyway."
Yeah... those are some hot takes. I know Stanley Kubrick also jumped in saying its about 600 people who lived, not 6 million who died. Pretty sure Jean Luc Goddard accused the film of profiting from senseless tragedy as well. Its fascinating to see so many people dogpile on the film for flaws that I don't personally see as fair.
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@@punksci6879 You got me....
"You were making out during Schindlers list?"
Most underrated comment ever LOL
I watched this movie not long ago. At first it was my usual movie viewing, even at the first deaths I was still in my regular mood. But then the killing didn't end and only got more brutal. Towards the 2nd act I was constantly on edge, but when it got near the end It became hard to watch. It was during the scene where the bodies are burnt that I became desperate, almost like I was bargaining with the film for the atrocities to stop. When it was over my heart finally calmed down into a deep sadness, when Schindler said "I didn't do enough" Is when the whole thing hit me at once and i started crying. This single line has become so powerful to me that whenever I hear it now tears fill my eyes. This movie is a masterpiece that will never be topped for me, it's the best movie that I've ever watched.
Videos like this one (and others in this collaboration) ought to be promoted, not superseded!
I have to say that I have one small issue with Schindler’s List that wasn't addressed in the video but we can see it in it. At 19:40 the text on the screen reads "September 1939, the German forces defeated the Polish Army in two weeks.". You can consider it a minor detail and it can be argued that it is rather unprecise than strictly untrue, but for me, this is very misleading and honestly, a bit insulting. Yes, by September 14 it was clear that the Polish Army is going to lose the campaign (unless, maybe, if the French and British would immediately lunch a major offensive in the West, as they promised to do), and the units that weren't cut off began retreating towards the South-Eastern part of the country, from where they could evacuate to Romania, but they still fought on! The Soviet forces invaded on September 17, as de facto active allies of Germany, ultimately deciding the campaign, yet the resistance of the Polish Army continued. Warsaw held until September 28, Hel Peninsula until October 2. The battle of Kock was fought 2-5 October. Only the capitulation of Gen. Kleeberg following day is considered the official end of the defence of Poland, even though some scattered remains of other units fought even longer, but they are considered the first partisans of WW2 from this point. I hope it wasn't too rant-like on my part.
On a lighter note, King Richard is indeed a very handsome feline fellow! Have you considered creating a second channel with videos featuring him? Sort of low-effort content that UA-cam loves, to support and possibly promote the main channel (it was a joke when I started writing it, but now I'm genuinely beginning to think this might be something to consider).
Yeah that's an inaccuracy to save time. Glaring one at that.
Edit: I just saw that you'd done what I'd mentioned about using a poll on your channel: Carry on! Good material this week.
Here in Switzerland we have our Schindler: his name was Paul Grüninger, he was a police officer who let many Jewish refugees into Switzerland (illegaly) and got discharged and put on trial for it. His name is on the Yad Vashem memorial, but swiss history school programs barely talk about him, if at all.
We also have a very powerful nationalist party constantly standing in the way of historians, claiming that anything that doesn't fit their narrative on Switzerland's actions in WW2 is leftist rewriting of history.
I graduated high school in 1969, we learned nothing about the Holocaust. All knowledge I have came from reading, studying and visiting Germany. My grandfather and grandmother immigrated from Germany and had 3 sons fighting for the allies. No one, not school or family talked about it. Sad.
I met the Granddaughter of Amon Goth who is Ms. Jennifer Teege who talked about this and wrote a book call My Grandfather Would Have Shot Me for being black and mix. It was very sad.
Yeah explain to people the Spielberg toned amon goeth down.
I honestly think the best part of this video is the shade cypher throws at UA-cam.
Man, as a german i ve heard and seen all this like literally 1000 times but this neutral delivery brought me to tears. Also btw, thanks youtube for interupting a sentence of mass-killing by an underwear-add. This is probably why youtube doesnt want these vids
My best friend (who happens to be gay, too) has both Jewish and Romany ancestry. Her grands got out in time, but most of their families didn't. Dunno what's more depressing, all the families destroyed or the fact there are so many damned people who argue either it never happened or wasn't really as bad as it really was.
My husband, blond and blue eyed though he be, wouldn't have been safe either. He's congenitally blind. (It, by the way, did NOT pass on to our children.
It’s amazing(in the worst way) to me how anyone could deny this part of history. Just insane. Outrageous. Infuriating.
It is difficult for me to watch movies in general so I'm appreciative of historical reviews like yours... Please don't be discouraged... I'm a new fan and plan on watching as much of your content as possible...
The first half of this video is the best short summary of the holocaust I have ever seen. Covers all important parts including what happened before and after, accurate, emotionally neutral, and not too long. Very well done.
what about The Rose Garden? That one didn't really "shy away" from the subject matter while having mass appeal, insomuch as a movie of this subject can, and predates Schindler's List by 4 years.
Great, very solid film, alas not very well known.
One thing I liked a lot was that there's no music in it, except for the end titles music and it was completely bone chilling.
@@Stoner075C I don't remember that. Time 2 rewatch! :)
i find it absolutely hilarious that you named the laser pointer saladin. you have now answered the burning question that I didn't even know I desired to be answered - how do historians name their cats.
*Beware of the comment section traveler*
As always, Cypher, this video was excellently produced and provides an important cautionary tale: No one is free from control of the grips of evil. The Nazis get a lot of attention as the main cartoon villain in much of our media (pick your example; mine is Wolfenstein), but there are numerous others who are guilty of genocidal crimes (again, pick your examples; my top three are Japan, the Khmer Rough and the US) and each of them have their own harrowing stories. We need to keep the history of these events alive so we can prevent them from happening again.
Thank you so much for making this video! I really appreciate all the work that you goes into making sure your videos are accurate and entertaining. I love history and it's great to be able to watch a channel that takes it seriously. I'm really sorry UA-cam is treating you so poorly and restricting this video!
19:01 Jurassic Park came out in 1993, the same year as Schindler's List. Not the year before.
It would be also great to see your take on The Pianist. I wonder which movie do you prefer? Also, have you seen or at least heard about Korczak by Andrzej Wajda?
I know this video is over 2 years old now, but I'm happy I found it and your channel. Most likely took so long due to UA-cam and it's appalling censorship. (and good on you for calling them out on their BS right off the bat).
Also I don't want this coming off as silly because I am dead serious. Thank you for including the sanity breaks with your cat. Seriously my mind and stomach and everything end up feeling so sick at how this happened not even 100 years ago, but I am adamant of needing a constant reminder so it may never slip from mine or the public's consciousness. That being said it is super depressing , but a small break in-between is a great reminder of all the good in this world we have as well. I wish more people included things like that in these kinds of videos.
Thank you for the video and your good character. I look forward to checking out more videos on your channel.
I love ❤️ what you do my dude. NEVER stop ✊🏿
That highly educated unit fact both shocked me and didn’t somehow. What an excellent and necessary art piece of work. Also to hell with UA-cam.
I normally skip adds, I'm letting then run. You deserve every dime, UA-cam NEEDS TO PAY YOU, historians need to be respected and paid.
A good movie that I think depicts the Banality of Evil is “Conspiracy”. While it has plenty of inaccuracies, the film is largely based on the actual transcript of the Wannsee conference, and it shows it as basically a business meeting, where these enemies of humanity are enjoying fine wine, food and cigars while politely discussing the most horrific things, and it shows some of the attendees as reluctant to support the measures proposed for various reasons, but never questioning the underlying assumptions, and to top it off, it stars actors like Brendan Coyle, Collin Firth, Stanley Tucci and Kenneth Branagh which makes the banality of evil all the more real.
Thank you for making this video about such an important topic. And thanks for the cat breaks. They were necessary.
Cypher I am just about to watch this and I know you will have done a great job of this as you usually do. Cheers bro 👍
Those lines about how every human can do something this terrible needs to be repeated. Just look at the Milgram experiment and the foot in the door effect. If you can get people to accept a little of something, you can take full advantage of making them do more and more. Combine that with the factors described in the Milgram experiment, and you get hell on Earth.
Spielberg admitted that Emilie deserved her own movie.
I took a pause to check my mental state, when I unpaused it was to the cat footage and I just want to say thank you very much for including that.
Hey Cypher, I just wanted to say thanks for doing what you do. It's really good to see someone who doesn't shy away from UA-cam's censorious bull on these subjects. And your cat is totes adorbs.
Someone should make a movie that goes into the gruesome reality of Nanking which would make the public far more aware.
Schindler’s List is a historical fiction movie based on a historical fiction book that mixes real people events with fictional people and events.
With regards to historical accuracy, I would expect it to be somewhere intermediate between "Band of Brothers" and "Saving Private Ryan".
Well done yet again sir. I’ve been a fan of yours for years and continue to follow your work. If I had the dough to spare I would patron and check out your work on other platforms. Thank you for your many services 🙏🏾. Keep moving forward.
A really great video Cypher, I'd also love your take on other similar (yet lesser known) characters like Sugihara Chiune and Ho Feng Shan and perhaps even the role of the Dominican Republic during that time.
Would like the point out that UA-cam placed commercials of Prager U in this video. Talk about a slap in the face.
It’s more of a kick in the balls because it hurts more
@@theshenpartei Dennis Prager who founded PragerU is JEWISH
@@unclesam5230 you are being a bigot
@@theshenpartei HOW!?
@@unclesam5230 I need a source that says he is Jewish or not other wise you are being a bigot
This video is brilliant and UA-cam should be ashamed of demonetizing and shadow banning it.
One of the "characters?" in the film was the individual most influential in getting Oskar Schindler's story told first as a novel and then as a film. I'd recommend looking up some of the interviews he's given that are here on UA-cam, his name is Leopold Page or Poldek Pfefferberg. He was at multiple forks in the road of history that had he made a different decision could have easily died. He first served as an officer in the Polish army and fought in the defense of Poland. He had the choice of being a German or Soviet POW and chose German, thinking they would be more more humane since they signed the Geneva convention. The Polish officers who became Soviet POWs were killed in Katyn forest or elsewhere. He survived the Holocaust as a Schindler Jew, but in multiple cases could have been shot on sight. One of those times is shown in Schindler's List, when the man salutes the SS officers when the Krakow ghetto is being liquidated. Another story he tells of is getting beat up by a SS officer in a camp, but basically earned the respect of the officer by not defending himself and telling the officer off when he asked why. This is just a handful of his stories. The man is such an inspiration to the human spirit.
Great video and all, but we all know the standout star of this video is King Richard I. He is most excellent
The "banality of evil" point is one of the most important ones.
Non of us should be on that high horse thinking "we wouldn't have enabled or furthered the evil", but realize those were normal humans.
To put this into perspective during the Middle ages looting is not abhorent so long as th besieged was not surrending, also the fact that at the time persecution of minorities was the norm, not even the more open near east at the time as even they tend to have strict policies against non muslims (such as tax laws that make it difficult to be a religious minority and at times e. g in the case of the Moors of Spain forced the locals to convert or be exiled which the later Spanish just copied.)
Incredible work. So informative. Thank you Cyn.Hstn.
I wrote my thesis on the impact of war on the holocaust, how it was far more a "natural" evolution of policy than anything planned in advance. I've not encountered many others that agree with me. Thank you.
I am a bit surprised: The functionalist school is state of the art in Holocaust science. The intentionalist reading is pretty much fallen out of favour since the 80s.
You are the first person I've heard say that the Romans removed the Jews from Palestine and spread them throughout Europe as an organized plan. I've often wondered how they came to have communities in European cities as opposed to coming together somewhere else and founding their own country when Rome put down the rebellions. I know the diaspora happened, but I didn't know it was a specific Roman plan to deal with the rebellions. I don't doubt it, but what's your source? I want to read about it.
Congratulations on 175,000 subscribers! Looking forward to watching the whole playlist in order!
Please do a piece on the halbe pocket. I find it extremely fascinating Hitler's last army was lead by people that hated Hitler.
King Richard I (the cat) is like a beacon of hope in this video where I just can’t help but bawl my eyes out. But King Richard I being in this video to brighten my day gives me back hope for the world. 💛
Hi Cypher. I really want to thank you for making these videos and making sure history is not forgotten. It is a shame what is going on in the world we live in. It was my birthday on the January 27th when you posted this. I really really like this movie. Anyway, just wanted to thank you for making these videos. I really enjoy them and I am trying to convince more people to watch your videos than watch Hollywood History movies. Not saying they are all bad, but a good number of them are fiction than history. I love history and I want to learn more.
Please do Thin Red Line which has nothing to do with the Holocaust but about the Guadalcanal campaign. Albeit the later part of the campaign. It came out in the same year as Saving Private Ryan.
Please do one on the film Come And See by Elem Klimov; film is terrifying!
@@zanseinofan01 same here
Cypher doesn't do foreign language films. But I concur, wonderful film. Well okay maybe wonderful is the wrong use of the phrase.
@@LadyTylerBioRodriguez so that’s a definite no on the downfall movie then
before i expand the comments, it says Cypher answered here, but then there's only the other 4 comments... :/
@@zanseinofan01 Completely worth it.
I myself made a video on how the Holocaust is represented in media in my UA-cam channel. And guess who restrict it's age view? I can't believe that. It's so awful to think that an international platform does not want teens to learn or discuss any thing about the Holocaust. As a Jew myself from Israel (and I'm proud of it) it's disgusting. It's like UA-cam team thinks: "How we gonna make David Irving like are platform?"
The Shindler's List film is definitely a masterpiece despite some little inaccuracies and a big question about who was really Shindler himself. He is a very controversial and ambiguous character. He was basically a loser who failed in anything he was undertaking but, as a matter of fact, he did save jews. Where his sincerity lies? I don't know. The fact that he dared to sell the ring he has been offered by "his jews" raises serious questions in my mind.
Anyway I agree with most of what you say, especially the conclusion. Good video
Just 2 "technical details:
1. The "gas vans" used carbon monoxyde, not dioxyde, from the engine exhaust. In the gas chambers they didn't use carbon dioxyde either but Zyklon B which was basically a cyanide-based pesticide. Just unthinkable ...
2. The Einsatzgruppen were not an "elite" of intellectuals but was mainly composed of people coming from the middle class (shop-owners, craftsmen, policemen, primary school teachers, etc...) This doesn't make them less guilty but just to be accurate.
"And I'll see you guys next time"... I see what you did there.
that's my editing mistake, lol
This is a movie that I am on the fence on. I ended up watching it late after all the internet reposts of scenes, so I knew what it was about a Nazi, which put a bad taste in my mouth, but the amount of love for the film got me to watch it. Knowing now who Schindler was due to the film, my outlook on it is a bit more positive than it was before I had watched it. However there is one issue I have with the film: it re-humanizes Schindler to an extent that I don't agree with, almost ignoring at the end of it that, while he did save many Jewish people by keeping them out of the camps, he still exploited them and used them effectively as slave labour, and still committed crimes worthy of putting him on the run as the film mentions.
First, you have a very cute cat, and as a fellow cat owner I appreciate the video of him.
Second, I appreciate you doing a video of this movie and appreciate the fact it is so historically accurate. Obviously no movie is perfect, but the fact this one gets it right more than not is a net positive. I’ve seen this movie several times, and it’s one that should be viewed in schools in history class.
Also wanted to ask if you ever saw the miniseries Winds of War/War and Remembrance; from the book of the same name by Herman Wouk? If not check it out.
I seen that tv series
Thank you for the breaks featuring His Highness. I have yet to be able watch Schindler's List beginning to end. A movie I found especially disturbing, that does not show the graphic horror, is Conspiracy. They seemed so logical and reasoned in their discussions.
Props to you for adding cat footage before a really depressing story
And what a beautiful boy he is.
@@Darilon12 he is a cute boy
It is often in our darkest hours, that the light of humanity shines brightest.
It’s funny cuz me and everyone I know learned about the Holocaust in middle school, so UA-cam age restricting content on this subject is ignoring the US educational system
But do they still teach it in middle school in this day and age? One would expect governments keep the masses ignorant, so when they support a new genocide like in China, no one will protest
@@robinderoos1166 I was in middle school less than a decade ago, my sister just got into high school and my little brother is in middle school. Same curriculum
For me it was 6th grade in the late 90's. We even went to the museum in DC on a school field trip. Read Daniel's Story and Anne Frank. Christ, UA-cam we were like 10 or 11.
I still Remember asking my science teacher in 6th grade why she had numbers tattooed on her arm and she gave me a look i never forgot. I never asked again when my dad told me what it was
Thank you, Sit, for posting this
If you haven't already, check out War and Remembrance. It's a bit soap-operary, but the graphic imagery Dan Curtis was able to portray is tough to stomach 32 years on. It is, by far, the most gut-wrenching thing I've ever watched.
I'd also recommend the predecessor Winds of War, but Remembrance is pretty long on its own.
And if you have the time, I'd also recommend the books on which they're based.
I think they were on UA-cam for sometime
For as long as this video does not get demonetized do not skip the advertising
On behalf of all my Jewish brothers and sisters, I want to thank you for stepping up and making this video. It's not easy, especially on a platform as corrupt as UA-cam. Thank you for all of your hard work.