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  • Опубліковано 11 сер 2016
  • In Vintage Miami, Gordon S. Converse appraises an 18th Century French Orbit Clock. Find out how its value has changed since 2001 in Vintage Miami, premiering Monday, August 15th at 8/7C!
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  • @smittymcjob2582
    @smittymcjob2582 2 роки тому +36

    anyone dropping $10,000 in the 1970s on a clock while on a vacation wouldn't get particularly excited about anything less a million dollars.

    • @Bratcipheo
      @Bratcipheo 2 роки тому

      checking us dollar inflation from 1970 -> 2001 when this was filmed, that 10k is equivalent to 45.618 dollars... so only 30% value increase.

  • @DonLee1980
    @DonLee1980 3 роки тому +44

    $10k in 1970 would have gotten you a Ferrari 250 GTO... just saying.

  • @ferocient
    @ferocient 3 роки тому +38

    This gilding technique is called "ormalu" which uses an amalgam of mercury and fine gold. It is no longer used as it was deadly to the craftsman--many did not live beyond 40--and has now been replaced by electroplating. The term for this kind of set (clock and candelabra) is called a garniture (matching set of something meant to be displayed together). Essentially, someone gave their life to gild this.

    • @88997799
      @88997799 Рік тому

      Yea most people don’t do much or leave nothing showing they were here… At least he left something of his life’s work.

    • @diskoeric2248
      @diskoeric2248 Рік тому

      thanks bro, but that was already in the video. You're that guy that has to feel important by telling us stuff we don't care to hear or already know.

  • @junebennett978
    @junebennett978 3 роки тому +5

    LOVE THESE SHOWS! VERY POSITIVE, THANK YOU!!!

  • @LetsBeCivilShallWe
    @LetsBeCivilShallWe 6 років тому +77

    I understand the physical constraints behind bringing only the one piece you can carry but pictures of the other items would have been a nice addition.

    • @mesicek7
      @mesicek7 3 роки тому +19

      This was an old recording from 2001 - no smartphones even digital cameras were a luxury item at the time

    • @bigsponk7849
      @bigsponk7849 3 роки тому +1

      @@mesicek7 that’s a good point.

    • @PAR0812
      @PAR0812 2 роки тому +1

      @@mesicek7 How about normal pictures?

    • @SoftBreadSoftware
      @SoftBreadSoftware 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@PAR0812 Then if you don't have an instant polaroid you have to take it somewhere to get developed which you might wait two weeks for

    • @PAR0812
      @PAR0812 2 роки тому

      @@SoftBreadSoftware We always did that - no problem.

  • @badgermike1231
    @badgermike1231 4 роки тому +32

    Bowling trophy's were much more ornate in the eighteenth century, apparently.

  • @carls.1000
    @carls.1000 4 роки тому +56

    I love how she causally says she thinks she paid around 6,000 pounds in 1970's. That is equivalent of $48K in 2020 dollars. So update the story: My husband and I popped into a gallery and spent $48K on a clock. I hope it is nice. PS: After inflation, they have not made a dime in profit.

    • @ccassidy9090
      @ccassidy9090 4 роки тому +7

      I mean... Something consistently holding it's value for fifty years is great too. Currency fluctuates a lot, so does gold, stocks, virtually everything else. If they'd put £6,000 in a bank account there's always the temptation to spend it. You can't spend a clock.

    • @bentleyr00d
      @bentleyr00d 4 роки тому +3

      You're kind of being a nudge.

    • @Consrignrant
      @Consrignrant 3 роки тому +1

      She was lying. Just like claiming to be an art collector.

    • @neilkurzman4907
      @neilkurzman4907 3 роки тому +12

      You’re assuming they bought the clock as an investment. And you’re ignoring the fact that she enjoyed it for 30 years.

    • @HunterShows
      @HunterShows 3 роки тому +4

      The guy just said it could be up to twice that number with the full set. That's $120K.

  • @oqvp
    @oqvp 3 роки тому +28

    She is disappointed... I can see she was expecting half a million for that clock.

    • @ce9345
      @ce9345 3 роки тому +4

      If she wanted a half a million, find a navajo indian's chief's blanket like the guy had on the west coast!

    • @bsmythe3214
      @bsmythe3214 2 роки тому +1

      @@ce9345 She's not humble or decent enough.

  • @roxannsmith816
    @roxannsmith816 7 років тому +6

    when is antique road show coming to Florida

  • @electoplater
    @electoplater 3 роки тому +17

    in 1970 u could buy a house fof 6000 pounds in the UK

    • @jamesluby6705
      @jamesluby6705 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah, I don't think she's made any money on the deal... 🤪

    • @HunterShows
      @HunterShows 3 роки тому +2

      She must be fabulously rich to be buying art souvenirs like that.

  • @pigoff123
    @pigoff123 6 років тому +15

    I loved shopping the flea markets in Germany

    • @IIIIIIII
      @IIIIIIII 5 років тому +4

      it's the best country in europe.

    • @efraimdevries7571
      @efraimdevries7571 Рік тому

      @@IIIIIIII I think you mean worst

  • @TheFiown
    @TheFiown Рік тому +1

    In the 70's I lived slightly north of London and was offered my house for purchase for 6000 pounds then ! I refused being so young (20) and today it is worth 1.4 million ! Kicking myself still. So this clock was worth house!

  • @chesterthawkins7510
    @chesterthawkins7510 4 місяці тому

    gorgeous clock

  • @coinparadise
    @coinparadise 4 роки тому +2

    I LOVE❤THIS

  • @MrStGeorgeIllawarra
    @MrStGeorgeIllawarra 3 роки тому +7

    These sort of clocks have plummeted in value. At least according to a recent UK version of the Roadshow I saw.

    • @Valkonnen
      @Valkonnen 2 роки тому

      As the younger generations of poorly dressed and cynical people take our place, these things will soon have no value at all.

    • @stephen9609
      @stephen9609 2 роки тому +3

      @@Valkonnen you're the only one who sounds cynical with that comment

  • @snnetteachexnayder63
    @snnetteachexnayder63 3 роки тому

    Wow 🤩

  • @inmybox100
    @inmybox100 5 років тому +53

    £6000 in 76 would have got you a house in London which today would be worth £700.000 ,

    • @TzunSu
      @TzunSu 4 роки тому +6

      @Sergio Romero Vizuete lol, that's not why the London house prices are so insane. It's because of the russians and other exceedingly rich foreigners buying them to launder money.

    • @unlimiteduploads2971
      @unlimiteduploads2971 4 роки тому +1

      No, your grandparents just wanted to sound rich saying the money back then was soo much more, and then you google it to find out arounds today's value, and oh boi not that impressive afterall :D

    • @mats7492
      @mats7492 4 роки тому +4

      @@daleHarrison93 oh shut up, you muppet!

    • @stubs1227
      @stubs1227 4 роки тому +4

      @@mats7492 Tyson is right shut up dipshit.

    • @ds1868
      @ds1868 3 роки тому +2

      @@mats7492 yep he's right.

  • @englishrose4388
    @englishrose4388 2 роки тому

    That would have been fun to see the candelabra with it.

  • @isnogodc
    @isnogodc 3 роки тому +4

    6000£ in 1975 are equal to 48000£ in 2021. She paid a fortune for it. Still worth a fortune, but not a lot profit. No wonder she was a little disappointed.

    • @brokensync
      @brokensync 2 роки тому

      That value was 20 years ago

    • @bsmythe3214
      @bsmythe3214 2 роки тому

      It lost value even by 2001 standards.

  • @OooWSelhan
    @OooWSelhan 3 роки тому +9

    If they put that $10k in the stock market then rather then this piece, they would be multi millionaires

    • @jimboyer5382
      @jimboyer5382 3 роки тому +8

      They probably were all ready multi millionaires in the 1970"s which is why they would spend 10k on this clock and not think twice?

  • @pigoff123
    @pigoff123 6 років тому +27

    She should have brought a picture of it.

    • @kenc2257
      @kenc2257 3 роки тому +2

      She had just sent the Kodachrome to the photo lab, and it was going to be a week before the pictures were developed and ready. [kinda joking--but, I'm an old guy, and I can remember the "good 'ole days" before anyone/everyone had a smartphone with a decent camera...]

  • @greymarket6834
    @greymarket6834 3 роки тому +6

    someone was half dead making that thing

  • @GPSjammer
    @GPSjammer 4 роки тому +7

    "HOLD ON LET ME FINISH"

    • @samk7717
      @samk7717 3 роки тому

      What do you mean!”?

  • @sutats
    @sutats 4 місяці тому

    £6k pounds in the 70s. That's a nice pied a terre in London money.

  • @terrywade3696
    @terrywade3696 Рік тому

    I wouldn’t be touching that clock barehanded! It’s poisonous. I remember seeing a show that talked about this process of combining mercury and gold and the narrator said that just having it in the same room poisons the air that you breathe!

  • @ClockFixer
    @ClockFixer 4 роки тому +22

    10 Grand in the 70's could have bought you 2 Brand New Cars........

    • @solidsnake9332
      @solidsnake9332 4 роки тому +5

      Atleast 4 cars

    • @eddy4688
      @eddy4688 3 роки тому +3

      Could have bought a nice house.

    • @tommypetraglia4688
      @tommypetraglia4688 3 роки тому +4

      Could have bought a really nice pair of shoes 🤣

    • @davidp8627
      @davidp8627 3 роки тому +2

      And today $60K can only buy one.

    • @vyrnmn
      @vyrnmn 3 роки тому +2

      @@davidp8627 I'm 100% sure that there are cars that are cheaper than 60k dollars brand new...

  • @TheSharoncat
    @TheSharoncat 2 роки тому

    The English obsession is France 🇫🇷⚜️⚜️⚜️

  • @swaggyp8536
    @swaggyp8536 4 роки тому +2

    People died making these beautiful pieces they should be priceless if u ask me.

    • @fred2796
      @fred2796 4 роки тому +3

      SwAggY P idiot

  • @tommypetraglia4688
    @tommypetraglia4688 3 роки тому +2

    0:56 Woman in brown in the background looking agasht in some kind of confused horror

  • @scottjp31
    @scottjp31 Рік тому

    she must be loaded.. £6k in the 1970's was the cost of my parents first house...

  • @bobolpatrick3789
    @bobolpatrick3789 Рік тому

    ce type de pendule est beaucoup moins chère en France

  • @nathanielberkeley-biggs2855
    @nathanielberkeley-biggs2855 4 роки тому +2

    Which English stately home was this burgled from?

    • @generichuman2044
      @generichuman2044 4 роки тому +1

      Was my first thought too haha. Whenever I see these clocks I imagine a large home in the country with huge chandeliers and gold furnishings

    • @bentleyr00d
      @bentleyr00d 4 роки тому +2

      The home of Hyacinth Bucket was burglarized at about that time.

    • @faithlesshound5621
      @faithlesshound5621 Рік тому

      @@bentleyr00d *burgled

  • @tesswoodard8949
    @tesswoodard8949 6 років тому +27

    Ouch she over paid back in the 70's

    • @AGM-ts5bb
      @AGM-ts5bb 6 років тому

      Tess Woodard paid off now though!

    • @UrbnXplr
      @UrbnXplr 6 років тому +2

      not really, when you factor in inflation

    • @DanielSann
      @DanielSann 6 років тому +4

      Lawrence considering the inflation 6k in 70 are 60k now 6k in 75 are 35k now 6k in 79 are 25k now so maybe she lost or earnerd a little some money depends on when of the 70'

    • @svenhoek
      @svenhoek 5 років тому +1

      @Steven Hickman have you used the inflation calculator for USD?

    • @northernrider780
      @northernrider780 3 роки тому

      Not really, if the other items are as described, he said it will double the price minimum so actually the set is worth $120k at least... People really care too much about inflation, if I put £6k into a bank and in 30 years it was £120k, I'd consider myself in profit.

  • @ccharles848
    @ccharles848 6 років тому +8

    Hideous. Sell!

  • @cloudsparrow7729
    @cloudsparrow7729 4 роки тому +6

    how did she not even know it was an Orbit Clock? I didn't know, but it's not my bloody clock, and I didn't spend $50,000 in new money for it. Did she actually know it was a clock at all?? And it's hideous

    • @tommypetraglia4688
      @tommypetraglia4688 3 роки тому +1

      What gets me is she spent enough to buy 2 new cars back in the day but can't remember what she paid. I hate when Peole come on here with a magnificent piece anf can't remember what they paid
      Is it an issue of age, or where her and old man were really loaded and this princely sum was a mere pittance to them.
      I'll never forget as long as I live what I paid for my newspaper route bike at age 12 after saving up my tips... 18 dollas from the old guy who ran tge bike shop gave me a deal down from 25.
      Or perhaps it was way too exorbitant and they conditioned themselves not think about it

    • @1BobsYourUncle
      @1BobsYourUncle 3 роки тому +6

      She said it was a clock, are you stupid or just like to bitch and moan?

    • @cloudsparrow7729
      @cloudsparrow7729 3 роки тому

      @@1BobsYourUncle Happy Christmas to you, too

  • @robotpanda77
    @robotpanda77 3 роки тому +2

    They must have had some money back in the day and now she is trying to sell everything for cash. Where did all the money go doris? Too many wild nights in vegas? lol

  • @zoeykillah
    @zoeykillah 3 роки тому +2

    I don’t like this clip. It was incomplete. It didn’t give the wow effect cus he was talking about something that wasn’t even there

  • @megalopolis2015
    @megalopolis2015 3 роки тому +5

    As pretty as this is, it's hard to get on board with its existence, knowing so many people died to make it.

    • @carlotta4th
      @carlotta4th 3 роки тому +4

      It's a clock, not some sort of soul jar. No one died making this.

    • @Bonobanos
      @Bonobanos Рік тому +2

      @@carlotta4thif it’s true that it’s made of mercury and gold then yes someone certainly died young after making this

  • @nathanielberkeley-biggs2855
    @nathanielberkeley-biggs2855 4 роки тому +2

    Where did she steal this?

    • @au1317
      @au1317 4 роки тому +5

      You might be the most pathetic person I've ever seen on the internet

    • @nathanielberkeley-biggs2855
      @nathanielberkeley-biggs2855 4 роки тому

      And, how is your good opinion of any consequence?

    • @clydec.barrow242
      @clydec.barrow242 4 роки тому

      At a garage sale/yard sale🤣

    • @clydec.barrow242
      @clydec.barrow242 4 роки тому

      @@au1317 and your not a pathetic person 🤣🍺have a drink on me and quit been so judgemental🤣

  • @j.reynolds3089
    @j.reynolds3089 4 роки тому +5

    Amazing what some people consider art. This is junk.

    • @tommypetraglia4688
      @tommypetraglia4688 3 роки тому +1

      I kno, right?
      And the worst part is the old man haf to look at it on the mantel for nearly 40 years... and equally hideous (I'm sure) candelabres too

    • @shawnb1649
      @shawnb1649 3 роки тому +3

      Trashy comment from a trashy person. Probably would look great in your double-wide.

    • @madjanetramerez2383
      @madjanetramerez2383 9 місяців тому

      wow, so cynical and lacking taste. not everything has to be minimalistic bland garbage. the amount of care and effort that went into piece like this is almost unparalleled, how on earth would this be considered junk? get off antiques roadshow if you’re so appalled by items like this

  • @nathanielberkeley-biggs2855
    @nathanielberkeley-biggs2855 5 років тому +1

    Way out valuation, incorrect.

    • @nathanielberkeley-biggs2855
      @nathanielberkeley-biggs2855 5 років тому +1

      I’m English, so yes, of course I am an expert on matters of culture and taste.

    • @jamessheppard4372
      @jamessheppard4372 4 роки тому +3

      @@nathanielberkeley-biggs2855 🤦‍♂️

    • @nathanielberkeley-biggs2855
      @nathanielberkeley-biggs2855 4 роки тому

      Aka Home Acc What cultured language.

    • @madjanetramerez2383
      @madjanetramerez2383 9 місяців тому

      @@nathanielberkeley-biggs2855see you harkening back to your imperial mindset and ways. 🤓🤓🤓you’re a pure bred english chap finer that the cocaine you sniff before your weekly commute to this video, with a circle for a family tree. quit being so proud and get better x

  • @KaliMaaaaa
    @KaliMaaaaa 2 роки тому +2

    Smug and entitled guest. Anyone who flew to Europe in the 70s for a vacation had money, let alone could spend that kind of money shopping for antiques and then the added expense to ship them back. Yet, greedy people like this can never have enough or be cheap enough, lest she would have paid an appraiser to value it. So, she brings it to the Roadshow for a freebee. Rich people are a trip.

    • @bsmythe3214
      @bsmythe3214 2 роки тому

      £6000 in the 1970s was an enormous amount of money, possibly the equivalent of $50,000 or more in today's dollars. The appraisal in the video indicates it lost a lot of value, or they got ripped off. Serves them right!

  • @nathanielberkeley-biggs2855
    @nathanielberkeley-biggs2855 4 роки тому +7

    Imagine fine antiques sat in gaudy American modern (less than 300 years old)wooden houses with all that twee, ugly carved wood and hideous ‘antique’ American furniture LOL. What a shame for fine art to end up in America.

    • @ethanlaw
      @ethanlaw 4 роки тому +5

      You have a lot of time on your hands to come back repeatedly to comment on a clock, hope things are going better for you

    • @bentleyr00d
      @bentleyr00d 4 роки тому +3

      Shove that dimwitted nonsense right back up your pathetic twat until you can come up with something containing actual humor.