@@jeditobiwan speaking of weird things that need polishing in the game, ive noticed weird things with the ak bayonet, like for example the bayonet not having an attachment point on the ak101 in the game (which is supposed to attach like the ak74) and the bayonet being positioned too far back on the muzzle on all ak variants where they wouldnt be. standard akm has 1 bayonet lug, where the hilt of the bayonet is supposed to attach (the bottom metal bit) and the ak74/ak101 variants have 2 bayonet lugs, the bayonet is supposed to attach to the one further up the muzzle, with the bayo ring on the end of the muzzle brake. other than that the bayonet is way oversized in the game, that could contribute to it. been wanting this ironed out since bayonets were implemented. (i own an ak with a bayonet, im a bigtime ak fanatic lol thats how i know this stuff) sorry for the long post lol tl;dr: ak bayonet is really really outta whack
I've shot a Five Seven and yeah, first several reloads some geometry on the mag got hung up on the bottom of the mag well. never handled and FNX so no idea if they fixed that but I assume they did.
If you ever do get the Carcano again, you can reload it using individual rounds. Good to have 1 quickbelt slot with clipped ammo, and another with a stack of individual rounds
The Five-Seven works fine for me. Perhaps turn off physical mags if you have it enabled until Anton fixes it. Edit: I guess anton isn't going to fix it
Flicking the gun into a twist as u release the mag is my strat with the 5-7, it's generally my fave firearm other than that nice .22 with the nightsights and tactical aesthetic
NGL, Tobi, this was fun but I prefer your limited ammo runs. They're so nerve-wracking and easy to cheer for. In any case, please keep the Take & Hold runs coming!
while we're talking polishing the guns, the TT-33 (I'm not sure if it's been fixed, I noticed this a while back) has a pinned trigger in game, while in real life it's a slide trigger like the 1911. A very minor issue, but once I noticed it, I can't un-notice it.
It’d be cool to see someone maybe when they get into cover and they have a gun with the sticky reload like that 5.7 just pull out their secondary or that shotgun and just place it on the floor in game and when your pistol runs dry pick it up
@@jeditobiwan thank you so much for replying! Which do you think is best? I'm leaning towards the Index because it was made by Valve and steam is my main game store page
I've recently gotten back into H3VR after buying it arbitrarily for the Meat Fortress weapons (massive TF2 fan) and have started branching out. After trying Take and Hold, I can safely say this game was worth more than what I spent. On Site Procurement is fucking amazing. Just wondering if someone might be able to help me out; I'm having trouble getting behind enemies using stealth. They always seem to see me from every angle. Am I just imagining that and just need to be better at luring enemies? Is there a trick I'm missing? Etc.
The sosigs can hear quite well! Make sure you aren'g knocking guns/magazines together or anything off of walls. Even racking can be heard if I am remembering correctly. It can also be a challenge to determine where their face is, have to use their hats/masks or clothes for hints there. Keep playing, you'll find the sweet spots for sneaking up on them!
@@jeditobiwan wait, they can hear you rack a gun?? Whoa. That's interesting that was actually included. Thanks for the advice dude, I love your content. Also, these two questions just occurred to me; A. Your subs/follow notifications are MGS. Just a schtick or just a fan of the series? B. I notice you use armswinger mode. Isn't it a lot harder to move and shoot with that mode? Thanks again for replying to a comment on an *8 month old video.*
Do you have a set up video? I notice you aren't using an Oculus, yet you keep making this sweeping 180+ turns without ever seeing a cord in your way. One of my main issues with H3VR TaH right now is figuring out a movement style that both works in game, and doesn't strangle me on the PC Link cable. Haven't found a great solution yet. Care to share your secrets? Only about 160k people would ever know.
I dont have a setup video. Nothing special happening with my cable, i just have it on the floor and coming from behind me when i am facing "forward" - i also use TurnSignal to help keep the cable untangled. The rest is me just being used to living with a cable.
I use a locomotion method called Armswinger. When I hold down a button on each controller, making a swing motion on the controller causes me to move based on the swing's direction.
Do you have any tips for how to make using bolt actions less of a pain to use in the game? I'm using the Vive wand for my controller, would getting the steam controller make it easier?
@@Laggyproductions while holding right rifle, press and hold the right side of the touchpad on your trigger hand. That will automatically swap your grip to the bolt handle. You can then make the cycle motion to work the bolt. When you close the bolt, your grip is automatically returned to the weapon/trigger.
Best advice is just spend time playing with the categories of weapons. Once you get super comfortable and familiar with the controls, you'll be a pro in no time.
Tbh ida taken the AA12 then again I like to think of myself as destruction incarnate. I've also never played this game so maybe it's not very good in take and hold
Something I find interesting to think about: being that the problems in-game with the 5.7 are intentional, faithfully reproducing its problems, is it still technically bad design? I'm a bit torn, in that I'd almost rather not have to deal with stuff that could be perceived as troublesome when I am already having issues due to adrenaline and lack of training. On the other hand, accurate simulation of the problems one would have in real life using the weapon is valuable in and of itself; "if it weren't hard, nobody would do it" and all that. Just something interesting to think about. I am reasonably glad Anton has opted for the latter route however, as it is likely to teach players to buck up and adapt rather than just make everything easy. Completely unrelated but have you seen this: ua-cam.com/video/hNIkca8k1UQ/v-deo.html Its friggin awesome.
Always good to see some take and hold but I'm genuinely curious as to how you move so smoothly around corners? I'm sure you're probably just moving around your room but the fisheye on the lense doesn't help too much
Nah, no issue. Iran is gonna bleed out the US by the organ that hurts the most: the pocket. Little to no risk of troop deployment against a country that has more than bows and foul language. Look at the 2002 training exercise for one. Which was _before_ Iran had Putin's missile deployment and detection systems.
@@DinnerForkTongue in a theoretical war between the two, it would come down to tactics. Iran is outgunned, outnumbered, and all around outmatched. If Iran tried to wage conventional war, they would lose, if they used asymmetrical tactics they might stand a chance, but that would still likely lead to the Iranian govt becoming little more than a resistance movement. Am I saying its a good idea for either of the powers? Fuck no. But in terms of raw military power, the U.S would have them beat. Russia probably wouldn't step in, because their alliance is less military and more commercial, any state the U.S props up in their place would likely still buy from Russia. I see a war between the U.S and Iran going very similarly to Desert Storm, because that is how American military doctrine is.
@@void8617 We are at the point where wars are NOT won with infantry or vehicles, but with _missiles._ And Iran has plenty of those to spare, more than enough to saturation bomb Israel off this universe as the first measure of a proper conflict. That's the last thing the American figureheads want. It's already horrendous for them that the Iranian govermnent has the potential and intent to lock down the Ormuz canal. And even if there was an incursion, the US would still lose. Did you forget about the 2002 training exercise where the Pentagon theorized that Iran was a "possible future threat" and mounted a war exercise, and the general in charge of the "red" (Iranian) armies beat the "blue" US forces so soundly, no less than FIFTEEN ships were sunk in a week. They couldn't handle the fiasco of the exercise to the point where rather than earn from the results of the exercise as was the intention of it to begin with, they went into "INVINCIBLE BECOZ MURIKAH" denial, ostracised the general in charge of the reds and otherwise pretend it didn't exist. Shambolic. And friendly reminder: Iran has proved to the US that their vaunted Patriot system doesn't protect shit. Them tossing a few missiles that sailed unimpeded into the asphalt of one of the American bases was proof enough of that. They could've hit any target they wanted in it, but nope, they only cracked the tarmac. There's a message in this. P.S.: Desert Storm only worked because 1) it was a joint operation between US and several Europe countries, and 2) Iraq back in the day had no dealings with Russia and a modernized, cutting-edge artillery and countermeasure systems like Iran does now. Now? Go take a spin around the French, German and Spanish publications to gauge the mood. They really, _really_ don't want to embark on another adventure and fuck themselves over because of shareholders and bankers desperate to save the failing US dollar.
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That cheeky LMG grab at the end is legendary
he just fucking yoinked it straight outta his hand
"No this is mine"
*Blasts him with it*
When?
@@STRAIGHTEDGEDOMINATION 31:25
Evangelos5647 thanks
"i need practice with my throwing"
If only H3VR had training scene where you could practice your throws...
Taolan8472 if only if only
i wish they would add one. I think everyone would appreciate that.
Anton said he made the reload on the 57 on purpose because that's how it was in real life
I found that out later in the stream!
@@jeditobiwan speaking of weird things that need polishing in the game, ive noticed weird things with the ak bayonet, like for example the bayonet not having an attachment point on the ak101 in the game (which is supposed to attach like the ak74) and the bayonet being positioned too far back on the muzzle on all ak variants where they wouldnt be. standard akm has 1 bayonet lug, where the hilt of the bayonet is supposed to attach (the bottom metal bit) and the ak74/ak101 variants have 2 bayonet lugs, the bayonet is supposed to attach to the one further up the muzzle, with the bayo ring on the end of the muzzle brake. other than that the bayonet is way oversized in the game, that could contribute to it. been wanting this ironed out since bayonets were implemented. (i own an ak with a bayonet, im a bigtime ak fanatic lol thats how i know this stuff) sorry for the long post lol
tl;dr: ak bayonet is really really outta whack
キーラン
If you're a member of the H3VR subreddit go post it on there. He'll most likely see this.
Michael Agustin Santos post bugs on the steam forums or anton will be angery
British Beef
Oh I forgot. I do not want to make the sausage god angry.
31:28 nice John Wick move lol
*silently stalks group of sosigs for a few moments*
"So anyway, I just started blasting"
“I’m gonna kill myself with these”
*throws another*
4:50 P90 mentioned. Great video!
Thank you again for the uploads, there's not enough take and hold on UA-cam, it's just so fun to watch
I have some on my channel
I think Anton mentioned somewhere that the 5-7 mags stick like that IRL as well, so it's working as intendent.
You are correct, I didn't learn that until later in the stream!
I've shot a Five Seven and yeah, first several reloads some geometry on the mag got hung up on the bottom of the mag well. never handled and FNX so no idea if they fixed that but I assume they did.
The only reason I would even consider getting a VR headset is for this game alone. You make it look so fun.
Super hot VR is also a blast and a half
It’s worth it alone for h3
Worth It
This, Boneworks and TWD Saints & Sinners.
I actually got hmd just for h3vr, and it was worth it!
If you ever do get the Carcano again, you can reload it using individual rounds. Good to have 1 quickbelt slot with clipped ammo, and another with a stack of individual rounds
I always forget about that. I see the enbloc and assume it work slike an M1 Garand for some reason!
Love your take and hold videos, really fun to watch someone good at the game cause I suck at it lol
keep playing, just takes practice!
I watch one of these almost every day at work on my break, so you uploading each week is dope. I love me some T&H
"Space Kraut Magic"
I dont know why, but upon reading this I immediately thought warhammer
This stuff is addicting, thanks for the vods
FN 5.7: hold like 21 rounds
Tobi: reloads after 4
Whatching you and STFU play this has been so entertaining that I’m finally investing in a gaming PC and VR. I’m crazy excited
i really enjoy watching you play take and hold.
Thanks!
Seconded. I prefer this to the dumb reloads.
@@DinnerForkTongue Appreciate the feedback. I am working towards more varied content this year since the dumb reloads well is rather dry!
The Five-Seven works fine for me. Perhaps turn off physical mags if you have it enabled until Anton fixes it.
Edit: I guess anton isn't going to fix it
Flicking the gun into a twist as u release the mag is my strat with the 5-7, it's generally my fave firearm other than that nice .22 with the nightsights and tactical aesthetic
I'll have to give that a shot!
Aside from the magazine troubles, the 57 looks like a real joy to use
NGL, Tobi, this was fun but I prefer your limited ammo runs. They're so nerve-wracking and easy to cheer for.
In any case, please keep the Take & Hold runs coming!
My goal is to mix the runs up. Will most likely bounce between limited and spawnlock!
please make more classic take and hold runs. They're very short and sweet.
"doesnt fall out right, doesnt go in right".....we still talking about the five seven right
I passed out midstream watching this and woke up to the other guy :D we talked a little about rogue like shooters
while we're talking polishing the guns, the TT-33 (I'm not sure if it's been fixed, I noticed this a while back) has a pinned trigger in game, while in real life it's a slide trigger like the 1911. A very minor issue, but once I noticed it, I can't un-notice it.
Oh man, every time i see you do a target transition and your reaction time, im just fuckin' amazed at good you are at this game.
I just have far too much time in the game!
9:30 you want a underbarrel grenade on a fiveseven? So battlestar style?
Dude literally said: "My LMG now" lmao
Loving these vids. Cheers
The ending was insane
The john wick of vr,Sosig Wick
Literally vr john wick
Not gonna lie, he’s pretty good and fast at shooting and reloading
21:34 the shots sync up to the beat!
g11 mentioned, amazing video
31:21 holy holy
Finish those juice hot dogs
I guess the 57 is a rock and lock!
I remember when i first got this game i didnt know you could spawnlock and id run everywhere in this game mode with like a single mag🤣
2:33 (subtitles) aplause
It’d be cool to see someone maybe when they get into cover and they have a gun with the sticky reload like that 5.7 just pull out their secondary or that shotgun and just place it on the floor in game and when your pistol runs dry pick it up
Next just revolver's please. Or maybe a Dirty Harry run.
Did you just remember the basics of CQC at the end?
When are you going to make merch?
Edit: and you should try Boneworks VR
Prayz he already has merch
I have one shirt and it is terrible. I did a video on Boneworks, and will be doing a full run through on here soon.
What VR system do you use, Jedi? I'm not sure what VR system to get between the HTC Vive, Oculus Rift, or Steam Index.
I am using the Valve Index! Previously had the HTC Vive and Vive Pro.
@@jeditobiwan thank you so much for replying! Which do you think is best? I'm leaning towards the Index because it was made by Valve and steam is my main game store page
You mean to tell me your FNX isn't in FDE? D:
Nope! The LGS tried to convince me that the FDE was 5% more accurate too lol
But two-tone looks so good :(
Though that accuracy stuff is complete horseshit lol, who in their right mid would believe that
@@jeditobiwan Sounds like orc logic. Red is fasta!
Who would win?
An army of heavily armed sausages
Or
One boi with a 5/7
Wait how do you switch to smooth locomotion in this game?
On your wrist menu, there is an option to spawn the options panel. One of the areas on that board is all the locomotion options
@@jeditobiwan Thank you dude, I've had the game for about three months and got tired of teleporting.
@@EarthToMaverick lmao
Just saying if you emptied out one of your maga then spawn lock it then you could reload when its not empty as thats a gewehr im guessing or a marcono
Why do you keep reloading the five seven after 5-10 bullets when you got 20 in the mag??
Infinite ammo + I just like reloading
You only worry about not reloading yet if you're playing with limited ammo. Otherwise, it's fair game.
Your using armswinger movement right? How the heck do you use it so well! I've tried several times but I could never use it. Got any tips for that?
Just practice! I have so much time using it that I don't even think about it anymore.
If ppl want you to play roblox you should try it, Roblox Phantom Forces.
I just did a 24 hour stream of ROBLOX and basically only played Phantom Forces the entire time lol
I've recently gotten back into H3VR after buying it arbitrarily for the Meat Fortress weapons (massive TF2 fan) and have started branching out. After trying Take and Hold, I can safely say this game was worth more than what I spent. On Site Procurement is fucking amazing. Just wondering if someone might be able to help me out; I'm having trouble getting behind enemies using stealth. They always seem to see me from every angle. Am I just imagining that and just need to be better at luring enemies? Is there a trick I'm missing? Etc.
The sosigs can hear quite well! Make sure you aren'g knocking guns/magazines together or anything off of walls. Even racking can be heard if I am remembering correctly. It can also be a challenge to determine where their face is, have to use their hats/masks or clothes for hints there. Keep playing, you'll find the sweet spots for sneaking up on them!
@@jeditobiwan wait, they can hear you rack a gun?? Whoa. That's interesting that was actually included. Thanks for the advice dude, I love your content.
Also, these two questions just occurred to me; A. Your subs/follow notifications are MGS. Just a schtick or just a fan of the series?
B. I notice you use armswinger mode. Isn't it a lot harder to move and shoot with that mode?
Thanks again for replying to a comment on an *8 month old video.*
@@art07091 no problem! Yes, they can hear everything except for the sounds you hear when you put or take items from your quick belt. Glad you enjoy!
You cool!
Do you have a set up video? I notice you aren't using an Oculus, yet you keep making this sweeping 180+ turns without ever seeing a cord in your way. One of my main issues with H3VR TaH right now is figuring out a movement style that both works in game, and doesn't strangle me on the PC Link cable. Haven't found a great solution yet.
Care to share your secrets? Only about 160k people would ever know.
I dont have a setup video. Nothing special happening with my cable, i just have it on the floor and coming from behind me when i am facing "forward" - i also use TurnSignal to help keep the cable untangled. The rest is me just being used to living with a cable.
might be a stupid question but how do you make the small balls into a magazine shape?
There are several "vest" options, that one is the Tactical Test
how do you move in this game?
I use a locomotion method called Armswinger. When I hold down a button on each controller, making a swing motion on the controller causes me to move based on the swing's direction.
jeditobiwan ok thanks
I want a htc vive just for this game
jeditobiwan can you reload a sniper with your right hand?
@@wintheking7884 you can reload it however you like within reason
How does the stock help lol
You should do California compliant h3vr
Oh God that sounds *terrible*
Nice.
Do you have any tips for how to make using bolt actions less of a pain to use in the game? I'm using the Vive wand for my controller, would getting the steam controller make it easier?
Do you use the touchpad to switch to the bolt handle, or are you dropping your grip then manually grabbing the handle?
@@jeditobiwan The later you said. How do you switch the the bolt with the touchpad? Is is something similar to how the shotguns work?
@@Laggyproductions while holding right rifle, press and hold the right side of the touchpad on your trigger hand. That will automatically swap your grip to the bolt handle. You can then make the cycle motion to work the bolt. When you close the bolt, your grip is automatically returned to the weapon/trigger.
@@jeditobiwan Sweet thanks! Got any other tips/tricks to make the gameplay smoother?
Best advice is just spend time playing with the categories of weapons. Once you get super comfortable and familiar with the controls, you'll be a pro in no time.
wait what did i just hear in the first 2 minutes?
jedi plays roblox?
nice
How are you turning so smooth? I'm using Rift S controller and can't figure out how to get the right stick to turn smoothly.
I physically turn around, I don't rely on snap turn at all.
@@jeditobiwan I guess it just takes getting used to. Thanks man!
Are you using vive? How do you aim so well? What’s the thing on the controller?
Valve Index. Combination of virtual stock and 500 hours of playtime help my aim lol
jeditobiwan thanks!
Tbh ida taken the AA12 then again I like to think of myself as destruction incarnate. I've also never played this game so maybe it's not very good in take and hold
I don't think it's very adequate. Seems very bulky to handle.
I'm wondering how long it will take for someone else or for him to realize that white tips are incendiary XD and black tips are armor piercing
White tips are AP+Incen. Blue are just incen
Im watching on 1/4/2020
Something I find interesting to think about: being that the problems in-game with the 5.7 are intentional, faithfully reproducing its problems, is it still technically bad design? I'm a bit torn, in that I'd almost rather not have to deal with stuff that could be perceived as troublesome when I am already having issues due to adrenaline and lack of training. On the other hand, accurate simulation of the problems one would have in real life using the weapon is valuable in and of itself; "if it weren't hard, nobody would do it" and all that. Just something interesting to think about. I am reasonably glad Anton has opted for the latter route however, as it is likely to teach players to buck up and adapt rather than just make everything easy.
Completely unrelated but have you seen this: ua-cam.com/video/hNIkca8k1UQ/v-deo.html
Its friggin awesome.
Always good to see some take and hold but I'm genuinely curious as to how you move so smoothly around corners?
I'm sure you're probably just moving around your room but the fisheye on the lense doesn't help too much
Using armswinger + moving around my room lets me turn corners pretty well
@@jeditobiwan Ah thanks
31:25 wow nice stealing
Is he moving by swinging his arms?9
Yup! I use the armswinger locomotion method in this game
Oh, I didn't noticed that function. Thanks for the information! :)
Hand reveal! XD
Better not show too much gun prowess! You don't wanna get deployed in Iran!
Too soon buddy... Lmao
Nah, no issue. Iran is gonna bleed out the US by the organ that hurts the most: the pocket. Little to no risk of troop deployment against a country that has more than bows and foul language.
Look at the 2002 training exercise for one. Which was _before_ Iran had Putin's missile deployment and detection systems.
@@DinnerForkTongue in a theoretical war between the two, it would come down to tactics. Iran is outgunned, outnumbered, and all around outmatched. If Iran tried to wage conventional war, they would lose, if they used asymmetrical tactics they might stand a chance, but that would still likely lead to the Iranian govt becoming little more than a resistance movement. Am I saying its a good idea for either of the powers? Fuck no. But in terms of raw military power, the U.S would have them beat. Russia probably wouldn't step in, because their alliance is less military and more commercial, any state the U.S props up in their place would likely still buy from Russia. I see a war between the U.S and Iran going very similarly to Desert Storm, because that is how American military doctrine is.
@@void8617
We are at the point where wars are NOT won with infantry or vehicles, but with _missiles._ And Iran has plenty of those to spare, more than enough to saturation bomb Israel off this universe as the first measure of a proper conflict. That's the last thing the American figureheads want. It's already horrendous for them that the Iranian govermnent has the potential and intent to lock down the Ormuz canal.
And even if there was an incursion, the US would still lose. Did you forget about the 2002 training exercise where the Pentagon theorized that Iran was a "possible future threat" and mounted a war exercise, and the general in charge of the "red" (Iranian) armies beat the "blue" US forces so soundly, no less than FIFTEEN ships were sunk in a week. They couldn't handle the fiasco of the exercise to the point where rather than earn from the results of the exercise as was the intention of it to begin with, they went into "INVINCIBLE BECOZ MURIKAH" denial, ostracised the general in charge of the reds and otherwise pretend it didn't exist. Shambolic.
And friendly reminder: Iran has proved to the US that their vaunted Patriot system doesn't protect shit. Them tossing a few missiles that sailed unimpeded into the asphalt of one of the American bases was proof enough of that. They could've hit any target they wanted in it, but nope, they only cracked the tarmac. There's a message in this.
P.S.: Desert Storm only worked because 1) it was a joint operation between US and several Europe countries, and 2) Iraq back in the day had no dealings with Russia and a modernized, cutting-edge artillery and countermeasure systems like Iran does now. Now? Go take a spin around the French, German and Spanish publications to gauge the mood. They really, _really_ don't want to embark on another adventure and fuck themselves over because of shareholders and bankers desperate to save the failing US dollar.
Since when did you play roblox?
I don't lol I just did it for a charity stream.
Call of duty more like call of wener duty
I die on 50k lol
LMAO
wouldn't it just be so funny and original if i typed "first"
Hooh you're a comedian
:)
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