She shoulda got longer tbh. I mean imagine you trusting somebody to take care of your body after you’ve lived for god knows how long, then everything you are gets chopped into bits and sold all over the world?? It’s sick and more than twisted.
I heard him say sentencing was Nov. 7th.....i looked at the calendar and got super excited!!!! Then I saw this comment and realized shes already been rotting in prison for a YEAR!! And in the feds you get to do 85% of that time before being ELIGIBLE for parole baybee!!!
@@theREALchriszitoThat's wonderful news! (Though I really wish she'd gotten charged with desecrating human remains or whatever the Colorado law is that covers that -- "misuse of a corpse" perhaps?). She doesn't deserve to enjoy any of her blood money even when she is eligible for release.
I had a family member who had their body sold like this actually by this lady. We were one of the families that for cement mix instead of our loved ones ashes. We were a part of this law trial too we gave a testimony.
@@CARNALGAS_TANGAS it’s a bit hard because of the record issue that was briefly mentioned in the video and the fact that we don’t know where our loved ones body is or where it went
One of these body brokers caused a lot of fuss a few years ago when they bought an old lady’s body for “research” and sold it to the Army, who blew it up in a blast test. Her daughter was not amused.
@@pigeon3264 They sure can. And they don't care where the bodies come from, either. I wouldn't be surprised if the Army ended up with more than a few bodies from the woman in this video, too.
Glad to see this covered; my grandpa had this exact treatment by this woman and It caused a lot of pain to my family, specifically to my grandma who had to deal with paying for the funeral and then finding out her husband was chopped up and sold to random ass people even though my family didn’t agree to “donating” his body.
Jesus that's terrible. just thinking about some C UNT like this Doing that to my Mother, makes me want to Hack *HER* TO PIECES! i hope she DIES IN PRISON!
@La Folia No its not. Quit spreading lies to further your agenda. 1) Most abortions nowadays are done with perscribed medication at home and are like having a heavy period. 2) At the stage elective abortions are performed, the fetus is the size of a grain of rice and indistinguishable from the rest of the uterine contents. I have sources if youd like them. I swear, people will say and believe anything that fits their biases and agenda.
Idk why by the lady receiving someone else’s ashes mixed with garbage infuriated me the most. Like a human body deserves the same respect as coffee grounds and granola wrappers.
@@esotericschizochad3664 Not sure of (((status))), a light punishment for violating and selling corpses would make sense then, but you probably wouldn't see this done to a Muslim.
A note about this, as a former biomedical student: not all donated body parts are being cut up for surgery practice, mind. Quite a lot of them end up as preserved samples to be looked at by biology students. While it was stressed to us that we needed to treat them with dignity, the body parts were only identified by the ID number of the body they originally came from. If names were preserved, we weren't allowed to know them. It was confronting, having to handle a stranger's remains. The thought that some of them might not have wanted it, and that their own family members may have even handled them without knowing, is tragic.
Mary Roach's "Stiff" goes over this topic as well. I was surprised to learn the sorts of things bodies are used for when donated; she even mentions how the bodies she witnessed being used for surgeries were for cosmetic surgery specifically, things like face lifts and rhinoplasty rather than organ transplants. Not that plastic surgery is always about vanity, but it seems hard to be "respectful" when your task is to judge a dead woman's face and decide her nose is ugly and how to fix it. It gets even worse when you get into forensics and such, since those bodies are pretty much just left out to rot in the sun to become worm farms. They definitely try to obscure the fact that this can be what happens, of course, because how else do you get people to sign on? I have no problem being worm food to solve a murder, it's not like I won't be rotting anyways, but most people feel differently, especially a person's relatives. It's a strange moral dilemma. Lie by omission to get what you need, or tell the whole truth and lose out on the bodies?
It's the true nature of how capitalism operates without any sort of restraints placed upon it. Thinking about sick weirdos doing sick weirdo things can make you feel a bit uneasy. The actions of those sorts of people can easily be explained away by them being disturbed weirdos though. Seeing the depraved things seemingly normal people you could encounter every day would do for money is a lot more unsettling.
Fyi most science/med schools want healthy, typical bodies for donation as they are easy and simple to learn from. It makes donating old, infirm, or diseased bodies kind of difficult. It's honestly better to donate your organs, which are more likely to be put to immediate use to save multiple lives, even if they come from someone who is older, had nonstandard anatomy or health complications but otherwise good organs and tissue. Transplantation and donation has saved multiple family members' lives, including my own. My kidney is 29 years older than me, old enough to retire lol. I've had both deceased and living donor transplant organs in my extended family, and it really is the gift of life.
I also believe organ donation is a fantastic thing. My grandfather got a heart transplant. Unfortunately he died because of a mistake that happened during the transplant but he still said he felt like the luckiest person in the world for having the opportunity to get one.
@Sparks you can have the option open to do both, actually. organ donations can only be taken from living bodies, typically those that are clinically brain dead. cadaver donations are obviously already dead, their organs cant be used for donation but their cadaver can still be used to help train medical students
@Sparks there aren't enough of either actually. And how do much good do you think all those organs will do if nobody is trained to do anything with them. Donate your bodies, burial is a scam.
It's like so trippy to think one day mu heart or kidney or something might be in another person. I've I've told skin can even be donated to burn victims, if my skin gets donated I expect the recipient to make as many Buffalo bill jokes as won't get them punched in the face.
"seminars involving cadavers in hotel ballrooms" oh god, I think I know the exact context behind this, something happened in my area like, incredibly recently and I think it may be what's alluded to here. Going to put it a bit below as though the explanation isn't particularly gruesome, and this is literally a video in regards to disrespecting the dead for a profit, still feels appropriate to me. Anyways an elderly man in my state WW2 veteran, passed from covid, he decided to donate his body to science. Instead his body is used in a pay-per-view autopsy in, as said above, a hotel ballroom. People paid between 250 to 500 for "vip seats" to watch a retired anatomy professor , the event making upwards of $10,000 in profit. It was billed as an educational event but clearly had no filters in place to weed out any dreadfully curious lookie-loos, it was pretty much a show. "There will be several opportunities for attendees to get an up close and personal look at the cadaver." Worst part is the wife was not made aware of any of this, she knew he had willed his remains to science but it wasn't until the story initially made the news she learned what happened.
I agree the wife should have been informed. That being said a "live autopsy " is educational. the people in attendance will learn about the body , organs, and how autopsys are done. Is it macabre? Yes. But it's biology and biology is science so his wishes of being donated to science was fulfilled. Yea alot of the people might only be there for morbid curiosity reasons but idk why that's considered so taboo 🤷♀️
@@vampsarecool It's mostly just taboo because he didn't consent to a live autopsy, he consented to having his body donated to scientific research to help fight COVID and find out what underlying conditions it worsened that had him RSVPed to Jesus' cookout. If he (or even his wife at that point) consented to the live autopsy, it wouldn't have been such an issue.
What’s even worse is that respiratory condensation still comes out of the body after death. Morticians and medical examiners have to wear extensive PPE, and place plastic sheets over a body’s face to prevent condensation from escaping into the air from covid casualties. So there’s a good possibility that on top of people being careless about covid in public already, the people who went to view the body up close could have contracted covid from it. 😬 In case anyone is curious, I’ll try to find the video I saw where a mortician talk about postmortem respiratory condensation and edit the link into my comment.
We have a really crazy crematorium in my city - they have museum of death and funeral culture, once had dinosaur statues and live camel on the premises for whatever reason, employees wear Nazi-ish uniforms, they run all kinds of hearse parades, midnight anti-drug performances and cosplay events, and the founder, who died just a month ago, once admitted to tasting human ashes and was also under house arrest due to allegations of him bribing hospital morgue for information about relatives of recently deceased. It's fucking Willy Wonka and Funeral Services over there.
Oh hey I live in Montrose. The funeral home is now a center to help pregnant women who are struggling. When all the controversy was really fresh they were allowing my church to rent space to do our services on Sunday there, and the staff kitchen was in the room she would have cut the bodies up in. We sprayed a lot of holy water in that place. Kinda poetic a building used to desecrate the dead is now used to help women bring life into the world.
I mean I’m not sure where I stand regarding the afterlife and religion but honest holy water seems like a good idea. I may not be sure but I’m sure I don’t wanna screw with that if it is…
My grandpa was going to be an organ donor, but everything basically exploded upon impact in a motorcycle accident. Whatever didn't explode wasn't salvageable enough to be used for donation.
@@brettvv7475 He was going about 20mph when he hit. And you could see the black marking from when he tried to stop for months. Some impatient asshole decided to turn in front of him giving him little time to react. He hit the passenger side where the front of the door slides back, slammed face first into the windshield and then flipped up and over the car and got thrown through the air a good ways before he hit the ground. His helmet was a few feet from where he landed. I feel sorry for all the kids that had to see it, school was out and everyone was on the bus ride home. I just hope that the bus driver got them out of there before they could fully process the accident.
Imagine youre a ghost, and explicitly said you didn't want to donation any organs but see this lady stealing your gold teeth and intestines. I'd be haunting the crap out of her
I watched a documentary on that. The interview with the guy in charge was interesting. He seemed stuck on explaining that the business was operating legally and going about standard processes, even though none of that matters if the family never consented.
As someone who has worked in EMS, the rumor that if you are an organ donor we will let you die is pretty easily debunked. 1. We usually don't find out if you are an organ donor. That's what happens in the hospital and even then in a lot of countries your relatives (or whoever has PoA) has to consent to donation anyway. 2. If we knew and IF it made a difference (It doesn't. Having someone die in your care is traumatic enough that you don't want that to happen anyway) it would actually shift the balance towards better care. Once you are dead your organs start to decay, for best organ donation the body is kept alive as long as possible to keep the organs in the best possible shape. Sidenote for those that don't care about what happens to their bodies after death: Please consider informing yourself about becoming an organ donor. It's not for everyone (due to a myriad of reasons, all of them valid. No shame if you decide against it), but organ donations save a lot of lives.
If I'm in a gnarly accident I hope they kill me and give my organs to people who need them Don't keep me on life support for a small possibility of living a fulfilling life
When we live in a world where people get their DNRs tattooed on their chest to enforce them, idk why it's assumed doctors care or even know about your status as an organ donor.
I’ve been watching for 2+ years and I still can’t get a read on what stories this man will cover next. My minds like shooting a shotgun at internet lore while Whang is 200+ feet away sniping the one I don’t see!
It's funny seeing this story get picked up worldwide. I'm from the area, and she used to work and live on my best friend's grandparent's ranch. He says she was always a weirdo. And yeah, that hair is pretty common on older women here.
@@skeletonking2501 He didn't really specify, just said she was strange and dressed like she was dead or something. And it was his grandfather's ranch if that was misunderstood. I have no idea what his thoughts are.
@@GibleKazam Given how her and her mum were literally bragging about stealing off dead bodies they absolutely would do that. They have such a sick mentality that I can very much believe they have a wardrobe or two full of stolen dead people's clothes and jewellery too.
I work in the funeral industry and I can honestly and very sadly say how scarily easy it would be to do something like this. Once the family have seen them and it’s time for the coffin to be sealed… no one would ever ever know… scary!
Yeah, or: it shows how greedy and stupid someone doing this has to be to get caught. Note how out of all the insanely immoral things they did the only parts that were apparently provably illegal were "mail fraud" and "transporting hazardous material". I'm afraid this is much more common than we would like to believe. That being companies profiting off of deceased bodies "donated to science", without the relatives' knowledge or real consent, and none of the money going to the relatives. From an article on the body trade: "A company called Science Care reaps $27 million in annual revenue by recruiting body donors through hospices, funeral homes and online ads." "Although the company’s donor consent forms state that “Science Care is a for-profit company,” they do not explicitly disclose that bodies or parts will be sold." "Gail Williams-Sears, a nurse in Newport News, Virginia, said neither she nor her father realized Science Care might profit when he donated his body before his death in 2013." And because companies like Science Care are actually smart, this is all legal.
A business here in Phoenix AZ was busted for this some years ago. It was called Biological Resource Center. A totally non-descript building in an industrial complex on a quiet side street. When busted, a woman's head was found sewn on aan's body, buckets of male genitalia, and numerous other nightmare scenarios. The utter disregard for people's dignity was staggering. After losingy husband this year, I can't fathom going through something so awful. I'm so fortunate to have a wonderful friend in the funeral industry. I know she & her colleagues ensured he was cared for in his final journey.
They were removing parts with a chainsaw too. The guy that ran that company is VERY close to becoming a serial killer. I'm sorry to hear about your husband's, I can't imagine that. I just remember how my dad reacted after my mother died. He was shattered. I know there'll nothing I can say to help, but I hope you are doing ok.
I Swear Stacey, this is some Nightmare Fuel type shit. i wish i had never even heard about it today. i mean, i can't even imagine knowing your Husband, or even worse SON'S "Genitalia" has been hacked off and thrown in a Bucket with like a 100 others. how these people aren't Murdered by the Families, ill never know. we *REALLY* Need to bring back Hangings and the Guillotine as a Society.
I've heard about this kind of thing. They'll sell your Grandma's corpse to Raytheon where they'll shoot rockets at it to test the antipersonnel capabilities
That sounds metal as fuck. Is it possible to sell my own corpse to them while i'm alive, or do i have to go to a funeral home sketchy enough to do that first?
Yeah, toss me out somewhere on the highway in a plastic bag for all I care, however, it's pretty fucked up to mess the bodies of someone (or their loved ones) who _do_ care.
Yeah, yeah, we get how cool and edgy you are about your own dead body. But burial and honour for dead isn’t for the dead. Ask yourself: how would YOU feel if someone mutilated a body of your child?
@@3rdHalf1 What are you talking about? Cool and edgy? That's dumb and you should feel bad. Also, both the OP and I _stated fucking clearly_ that it's messed up.
The light ashes thing immediately tipped me off. A couple years ago our dog Rainbow passed away and we had her cremated. She was a fairly average sized dog, a 60-ish pound yellow lab, and when we got her ashes back it was pretty heavy, pretty sure that bag was at least 25-30 pounds, and that's a dog, if actual human ash remains feel suspiciously light, that's an immediate red flag
Recently I’ve gotten into D&D dice collecting. Was showing my friend a set that I found cool when she showed me a set of “Necromancer’s dice”. I don’t know how I feel about it, but she said she really wants them. Being said, the reason it’s so creepy is it’s made using bone; human bone. I had seen antler bone dice, but these dice were cut from donated bodies. Being a D&D fan; she said she’d be honored to be turned into a set of dice, but I don’t know how the people who donated their body would feel about it. I think a lot of them would be upset that they were turned into some dice for a game. Literally playing with dead people. I’ll admit it’s a cool idea, but maybe a bit macabre and unethical. Think I’d feel a lot better if the donators were aware they’d be turned into dice.
@@Outcast115 If you haven't noticed, majority of people care about their bodies after death. That's why we have cemeteries. While you personally might not care about how you're handled after death, a lot of people do. Religious or not, its normal to feel bad for the dead and dying. Only recently has disrespecting the dead been a more common occurrence. While they may be dead, they have people who loved and cared for them, so consider them anytime you see a procession. So while yes, they may be dead... that doesn't mean you get to treat them like its trash.
@@TheVincenzoGaming my guess is they’d have some protective coating so they don’t take damage, become water resistant, and obviously keep moisture out. Though I did not know that bones do that… and honestly it’s equally cool and creepy.
This story is so bizarre to me, I literally lived 45 minutes away from the town it took place in, and my grandparents live there. Imagine if one of them had died and we got their bodies cremated there and this is what they did to the body. Absolutely hit home in a bad way.
I love all your videos. There's this funeral home in Pocatello, Idaho that was busted with like 15 unidentified decomposing body's and multiple fetuses...... the only reason they got busted was the WHOLE neighborhood reported a horrible smell. This was at about a year ago and I think it's just going to court now.
One of my favorite things from Whang's videos is that they are mixed impeccably with the audio. Probably because he's in a band, and has a ear for it. Nonetheless, I fucking love it.
I'm a licensed mortician, I have the associates of applied science from the dallas institute of funeral services. I have a crematory operator license as well as an embalmers license through the state of texas. That being said the gold teeth nonsense is a myth. During cremation we do 'turn overs' every so often. I crush skulls technically etc. We pull out large bone fragments and put them through a processor that grinds the material into the ashes people are used to seeing. If any gold survives the processor, it is so small and messed up that we just add it to* a metals container [ literally the thing that woman showed the previous employee ] which is filled up to a certain amount and then recycled for a small reimbursement to the crematory itself. We do this with* all surgical & precious metals that survive the 1250F heat of the primary chamber in the cremation retort. We always tell families we refuse to do it, they have to call dentists who will refuse and then they just accept that it's creepy to want grandmas teeth for only a $10 return - if that ALSO: porcelain teeth survive the initial cremation & and that is what the old lady showed to the previous employee *** I always have a little plastic container specifically for the teethies also also WTF I'm up in Denver now, working in the basement of a cemetery & I could neverrrrrrr imagine cutting apart a body. I feel bad having to raise more than one artery when I'm embalming. This lady is the talk of the death town right now up here. It's wild! This woman is why no one trusts those of us who take our job seriously and want to do it honorably :(
My dad wants to donate his body to science and unless he dies right when I get my tax return, I have no way to cremate him otherwise so I looked into it where I live and they make you pay still?! Like 100-200 bucks for transport?! Plus they don’t accept bodies with certain illnesses which my dad has. Here I thought it was easy peasy to donate your cadaver.
@@ghoulishtoad I imagine the reason why some would be rejected for certain diseases is because of health reasons of the researchers. They probably don't want someone getting sick if the disease is an infectious one.
This reminds me of the guy whose mom's corpse somehow ended up in an Army artillery proving ground without the son's consent and was blown to smithereens by various explosives.
Just imagine walking through a parking lot all tired after work. Gonna go home and just rest your tired head.. Then you walk by a guy watering the plants, but wait.. there is no plants ! It's someones grandpa.
I work for a funeral home and had a family fly into our state from NJ earlier this week actually, and during the ID view the mother of the decedent, when we weren't looking (as we do not stand over shoulders during viewing) striped the blankets and sheets off of him to see the rest of his mangled body (he had died in a serious accident and it was impressive he was viewable) because she wanted to make sure we weren't chopping him up and selling parts of him?? She got really upset that she had to see her son in that state all messed up, in the nude, the coroner bag underneath the sheets made to cover him up except his face... *luckily* she was more reasonable about it than anticipated as she would rather have known he was all together (as together as he could be) and have to see him in the state he was than let it gnaw at her if he was chopped and sold and we just like.. kept his head to sallow the family to view. In other news, death is ungodly expensive and unfair to the living. Make a pre-need arrangement with your funeral home, you can plan your service and a good funeral home can guarantee their prices at the time the pre-need is made, someone saved nearly $600 on a casket via pre-need. Go to a mom and pop funeral home and not a corporate one, corporations will guilt trip you into spending more money because it's to 'honor your loved one' and are in it because it is a necessity and not because they love the work. Get upset at the cost, write to local legislators because even like how food stamps are done, government aid should be at the very least accessible when someone passes away even if it's difficult and annoying and unknown, it being available is better than not. And if you are upset at the cost, know the funeral home staff is trying their best and are not your enemy. We want to take care of your loved one because that is the least we can do. Me and all my peers in my firm are here because we love people enough to see them off to their final resting place.
I'd have no issues with having my bones sold after I'm no longer using them, or any organ for rhat matter. But I demand royalties to be given to anyone close to me.
Agreed. Donate my organs and maybe don't let a necrophilac at me but otherwise if my future kids can make money off of me instead of spending money burying or burning me that have my permission too sell me as dog food if they want.
I'd do something like a organ loan. If the person who doesn't receive my organ pays a certain amount of money to my family, then the organ gets removed.
I used to live in a town with a large university hospital. Selling body parts was illegal like in most other places But if the university auctioned off a bunch of retired medical specimens that was fine. Then if someone bought an auction lot and put it in their oddity shop, also perfectly fine
@@NillaVille that's pretty much the answer I got when I looked into it. Yea it's a skull but it's a skull that's been in a classroom or supply closet for like 40 years. They can either auction it or throw it is the dumpster
i’m working toward a degree in mortuary and funeral science. this is sickening. i couldn’t imagine doing this to a family or having it done to my own. my heart goes out to everyone affected by this awful woman.
It's jarring hearing this story in the context of "crazy internet news." My dad's cremation was handled by Megan Hess, and she provided the whole service for free (I was 18 and just started college at the time and she said that "a child shouldn't have to bury their parents so young"). We never got his ashes tested because we weren't contacted for being potentially affected during the investigation, but a part of me is admittedly curious.
This happened to my step dad's step dad. Turns out his ashes were cremated animal parts. FBI found his arm in some third world country. Can't remember. The funeral was under investigation for awhile.
4:47 hey one of my professors worked on this case and actually drew this picture!! Its called the Economy head case and actually happened close to my hometown. Basically a kid finds an old lady’s head when walking home from school and the police begin investigating. Dr Vitali, the forensic illustrator, was called in to help and she was able to determine the head was part of the body parts trade because of the way it was severed (cut below a certain neck vertibrae number). She’s an amazing person and professor and has so many cool stories about forensics and anatomy :} I actually believe this case is covered in one of the new seasons of unsolved mysteries and it was mentioned in an exhibit she had this past year: all that remains
My mother was affected by something like this though it happened in Detroit. The hospital used parts from a funeral home doing this. She had to get a blood test regularly for a few years because an AIDS patient was one of the people they sold parts from. Such a messed up thing to do to people.
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@@JustinWhangYt I wonder if they’re algorithm is doing something weird, lately it’s like they’re forcing me to watch videos rather then having what I want to watch in the recommended.
this is just sickening.. and my god one of the victims’ father was part of the famous screaming eagles 101st airborne division in ww2 who spearheaded operation overlord, operation market garden, battle of the bulge in bastogne, liberating the netherlands, d-day as a whole, liberating kaufering, the list goes on.. band of brothers is about them and it’s one of the best shows i think i’ve ever seen in my entire life. how disrespectful and heartbreaking for all families involved 💔😔
Just wanna say, cremation is waayyyy more expensive than people realize. My mom died in April 2020, had her cremated, as per her request.. Got the bill and it was $5,000. I STILL OWE ON THE BALANCE.. ugh. And the funeral home will not give me her ashes until the bill is paid off. They told me to take out a loan. Can’t get one. Everyone one is struggling and I just don’t have the money. And they won’t accept payments, it has to be paid in full. Very upsetting and distressing.
@@MZRFaith I want to pay them because I want her ashes. I have my dads and I’d really like to have them both together. They won’t give me her death certificates either. Without them, I can’t do anything. Everything is still in my moms name, including my house, our cars, etc… Everything legal, taxes.. And it’s been 2 years. I didn’t expect the cost to be so high. When my dad died in 2014, it was only 3500.
@Abraham Johnathan I live in Pennsylvania and I don’t believe they can hold the ashes, but I’m not positive. Death certificates here are 20$ each. And they ordered me 5, so 100 for those. They had me sign a contract, to which I don’t have a copy of. They didn’t outright say they’ll hold the ashes until balance is paid. And around half the balance is paid. Unless they’ve tacked on late fees. I live is a small town and not a lot of people die here. Maybe 5 people in a month, tops. Even during Covid, not many people actually died of it. Most people are buried not cremated. The funeral home might very well have a basement full of ashes, lol I need to talk to a lawyer about it. Have to find one that’ll give a consult for free because I can’t even afford that lol Edit- rereading your comment- She died in April, during Covid when everything was closed. Including our courthouse where I’d have to register her will and death certificate and everything so I couldn’t even do that at the time.
As a aspiring mortician (embalming, specifically), I would NEVER do this. Embalming is not some fun job where you can just cut corners. It is a medical career involving innocent, grieving people. This is absolutely insane.
It feels so weird seeing a story you actually remember happening show up here. I live about an hour away from Montrose and i've been through there on family trips. North of Montrose there's a cluster of towns with a total population of almost 100k (Grand Junction and the related towns like Fruita, Mack, Clifton, Palisade) where I live. At the time my family paid for the local paper and when I would wake up in the morning to get ready to walk to the bus, I'd absentmindedly look at the front headlines. For about a week as the police investigated this lady and her business, she'd show up on the front page with yet another article detailing whatever horrifying shit the police found the day before. Glad to hear she got hit with the full 20 years.
If you have "Donor" on your DL or state ID, it is only valid (in the U.S.) when you go to website to complete the form to be either a full-body donor or an organ donor (in case you don6eant to be a ballistics dummy or an ottoman, etc). I've had 6 gold teeth for ages which belonged to my mom, dad and grandma which were extracted both before and after death. So much yikes.
You have the gold teeth of your dead family members? That’s fucking creepy sorry. They will always be invading your personal energy space. Why ask for that
The hotel ballroom! Are you talking about what happened here in Portland, where some group sold tickets to people for hundreds of dollars to witness an autopsy like it's the 1880s. Turns out the family had donated that person for medical research. This was during COVID. Edited to add: there really is no good association with the name Koch.
Whang's mom is right about that check box on the back of your ID. I had a cancerous tumor removed from my eye when I was a baby, but Sloan Kettering tried to convince my family to radiate and remove my eyeball anyway because they wanted to study it. Luckily my parents started arguing and were too preoccupied yelling at each other to give consent. Research is big business.
My Dad had his Surgeries TOTALLY Paid for due to having BIG Tumors on his Head, Neck and Left Arm taken off and "Studied" they TOLD HIM "The Money we've made selling your Tumors paid for your Surgery many times over"
Research is different from organ donation, the checkmark on your ID refers to donation to people in need of transplants and it's super regulated. I think it's highly unlikely they'd just 'let people die' because in order for an organ to be viable for transplantation into a patient, you have to die in very specific circumstances where your organ can be preserved. This kind of paranoid thinking is why we have so many people dying on the transplant list in the USA right now.
My grandmother was an organ donor, they luckily found a match for both of her kidneys and liver !! I'm so happy to know that Donate Life is a trusted organization. I was half listening and doing makeup, heard the name, and then started freaking out a little
"Hotmail haircut" had me in stitches. The rest though was absolutely appalling. (Not the video, which was great! But the story.) I can't help but think though that she never would have made the money she had without the buyers. I hope law enforcement went after them, too.
It's extra terrifying when an old morbid tales from the Internet ended with a minor update that took place in the same year you're watching that video.
I read a piece of dark fiction years ago about a veteran whose cremains contained a rather large chunk of threaded steel, allegedly traced to a mortar bomb. And his family was absolutely astonished that he had lived and worked with this huge piece of steel embedded in him without a word of complaint. Of course it was nothing of the sort; rather, a medical student had removed the man's femur and replaced it with a length of water pipe. As fiction, the story imparted a definite frisson. As fact, it is a horrible betrayal of trust to do such a thing. And for the families affected by this case and other, similar, cases, I really have no words beyond an acknowledgement of the heartbreak that would accompany the discovery of the truth.
Honestly, I've already been thinking of getting myself off of the organ donation list. Over the years after I initially got my license I've kept on hearing about crap like this story that has made me get to the point I rather be just cremated. The amount of profits that are made from donated/"donated" organs just makes me extremely uncomfortable.
I totally forgot about this story,when I saw the notification I thought it was about the funeral homes in NY/NJ where they were taking skin and knees and stuff like that and bones and putting PVC to replace the bones.The funeral home business is crazy.
I think of Big Boss man dragging Big Shows’ dad’s casket when I’m at my saddest. I remember seeing it on tv live, and that’s a memory my brain decided to hold on to for the rest of my life. It’s still one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen.
Hey Whang! I mentioned this in older videos but I was wondering if you've ever heard about a very graphic video from...2008?2007? about a guy from an asian? country trying to jump from a bridge to the water but he misses the water and he hits his face on concrete, the whole video was low quality and recorded in an old phone obviously, but i remember the video also having like, a warning screen in three languages, loud and unsettling music and there being a second part to the video where the doctors recorded what the guy face ended up like (it was split in half, all super graphic) I remember this video being shared EVERYWHERE back then including uploads to facebook and youtube, I also remember theories of people saying the second part of the video was from a shotgun accident, I cant remember much because I was like 12 at the time that video got viral (viral to what was 2007-09 not today's meaning of viral) Im curious if it was ever found out waht happened with the guy or his identity or anything on the matter lol I do not dare google this as an adult, I dread whatever result I might get, I cannot stand graphic stuff
I remember seeing this random video from when I was like nine or ten about a woman who had tore the skin off of lower neck, not just like the skin but the muscle and stuff underneath. She had a towel around the area until she took it off, and showed a big gaping hole in her neck. I don't remember there being much blood, and I suspected it was fake even at the time, but she stuck her finger in to flick at... something, so I wasn't too sure. It was also fairly low quality so it was hard to tell anything.
i'm pretty sure this is like the face splitting video or something. unfortunately, if i remember correctly, the video was real and the kid ended up passing away in the hospital a few days after he was admitted
I'm pretty sure the shotgun blast theory turned out to be bullcrap because I remember who claimed to have lived in that area saying they believed the second video was in fact from the same incident as they were speaking not only the same language but dialect (or however you word it when people of a speicifc area might speak in a specific way)
This lady is one of the reasons I forbid my family to cremate me because I would like my family to know for certain where my body ended up. I'm not as attached to my organs though so honestly I wouldn't care if my organs themselves got donated and saved someone, but I would like my family to at least know this is what was happening rather than it being a surprise.
My mother donated her remains to a reputable organization to be used for research. They offered to explain to us what research she would be helping (not what they would do with her remains, just the types of research) and we chose not to know. They picked up her remains from hospice, they were dressed professionally and respectfully. They prayed with us and thanked us and gave us a prayer blanket. They returned her ashes to us and only charged for the shipping. They were so respectful and kind and made a difficult day a little easier for us. This so called funeral home treated people like trash. I can’t imagine the pain they caused to these families. They caused so much trauma at what is already a traumatic time, I hope they get treated like trash during their prison stay.
A couple years ago I lost my cat to cancer. They were telling me they could take care of the "mass cremation" and I'd get some ashes. I'd hate to think this was their idea too. I took the cat back home and to a cremation the next day myself.
Fortunately or unfortunately (or both - depends on your point of view), there are more than enough unwanted dogs to provide specimens for vet schools. The ones I trained on came from the greyhound racing industry's annual cull of dogs that didn't run fast enough. Since then, I and other colleagues have learned new surgical techniques on the bodies of highly aggressive dogs surrendered to the pound (and humanely euthanized there), and feral cats trapped in bird sanctuaries. It breaks our hearts that humans have failed these animals, but it's some small consolation at least that we can use them to build our skills to help save other animals. There's really no need to be stealing the bodies of our patients, even if we'd wanted to (which we don't - I'm far too fond of my patients to want *anything* to go wrong for them after we've let them go!). If nothing else, then from a purely practical point of view, it'd honestly be a lot of hassle and take up a lot of space we don't have, to be stealing bodies and covering it up. Easier and quicker to put them straight in a tagged body bag and leave them in the chiller for the pet crematorium folks to collect.
Yeah check out the scandal at the body donation center at Paris Descartes university in france. Same kind of story but with gross negligence and lack of budget in my old university. I remember that a lot of people knew there were bodies rotting away in the basement, some getting eaten by rats and some getting sold but it took an investigative journalist to finally break the story out. The basement of this uni was weird.
My grandma is heavily against putting organ donation on your driver’s license because she thinks if the president needs an organ, the government will kill you for your organs
Weird question, but whats the gender ratio for that career? Literally every funeral director i've met (which tbf is only about four) have been women, is that just a weird coincidence?
@@amelialonelyfart8848 it used to be a male dominated field but it’s actually becoming way more female dominated. I don’t know the percentages off the top of my head though
For anyone who wants an update, she got the full 20 years in a federal prison for defrauding the families.
Hell yeah
Thanks, saved me googlin
She shoulda got longer tbh. I mean imagine you trusting somebody to take care of your body after you’ve lived for god knows how long, then everything you are gets chopped into bits and sold all over the world?? It’s sick and more than twisted.
I heard him say sentencing was Nov. 7th.....i looked at the calendar and got super excited!!!!
Then I saw this comment and realized shes already been rotting in prison for a YEAR!! And in the feds you get to do 85% of that time before being ELIGIBLE for parole baybee!!!
@@theREALchriszitoThat's wonderful news! (Though I really wish she'd gotten charged with desecrating human remains or whatever the Colorado law is that covers that -- "misuse of a corpse" perhaps?). She doesn't deserve to enjoy any of her blood money even when she is eligible for release.
Imagine having your body parts sold and not getting the money
Right?! It’s like being the dead dudes on TV!
Not only are you not getting the money, but it's also costing you an arm and a leg.
Bad business deal smh, imagine getting 100-0'ed
Honestly, that upsets me more than desecrating the corpse. Like Whang said, I'm already dead, I don't care. Just give a cut to my family.
How you meant to get paid? UR DEAD!
I had a family member who had their body sold like this actually by this lady. We were one of the families that for cement mix instead of our loved ones ashes. We were a part of this law trial too we gave a testimony.
Btw the without consent was a big issue we didn’t know until the news was broken that this lady was shady and was selling peoples bodies.
It's reprehensible what she did. I'm sorry that your family had to go through that.
Can you guys take her to court and sue her? If she's not gonna do that much time you can try to hurt her pockets instead.
@@CARNALGAS_TANGAS it’s a bit hard because of the record issue that was briefly mentioned in the video and the fact that we don’t know where our loved ones body is or where it went
Ugh I am sorry. How terrible. Hope y’all can find peace with everything that happened.
One of these body brokers caused a lot of fuss a few years ago when they bought an old lady’s body for “research” and sold it to the Army, who blew it up in a blast test. Her daughter was not amused.
Wait a second. They can use real corpses in their tests?
@@pigeon3264 They sure can. And they don't care where the bodies come from, either. I wouldn't be surprised if the Army ended up with more than a few bodies from the woman in this video, too.
It's well known that the United States military is one of the most unethical organizations on the planet
she went out with a bang
...to shreds you say?
Glad to see this covered; my grandpa had this exact treatment by this woman and It caused a lot of pain to my family, specifically to my grandma who had to deal with paying for the funeral and then finding out her husband was chopped up and sold to random ass people even though my family didn’t agree to “donating” his body.
Jesus that's terrible. just thinking about some C UNT like this Doing that to my Mother, makes me want to Hack *HER* TO PIECES! i hope she DIES IN PRISON!
The same thing is done to fetuses
@La Folia
No its not. Quit spreading lies to further your agenda.
1) Most abortions nowadays are done with perscribed medication at home and are like having a heavy period.
2) At the stage elective abortions are performed, the fetus is the size of a grain of rice and indistinguishable from the rest of the uterine contents.
I have sources if youd like them.
I swear, people will say and believe anything that fits their biases and agenda.
@@ryan.1990 they weren't born so it doesn't count. someone's grandpa beign chopped up and sold is sadder than some random fetus doing the same.
@@seldomseenn jokes on you i like murder
Idk why by the lady receiving someone else’s ashes mixed with garbage infuriated me the most. Like a human body deserves the same respect as coffee grounds and granola wrappers.
@Esoteric Schizochad woah based
@@esotericschizochad3664 Not sure of (((status))), a light punishment for violating and selling corpses would make sense then, but you probably wouldn't see this done to a Muslim.
A note about this, as a former biomedical student: not all donated body parts are being cut up for surgery practice, mind. Quite a lot of them end up as preserved samples to be looked at by biology students. While it was stressed to us that we needed to treat them with dignity, the body parts were only identified by the ID number of the body they originally came from. If names were preserved, we weren't allowed to know them. It was confronting, having to handle a stranger's remains. The thought that some of them might not have wanted it, and that their own family members may have even handled them without knowing, is tragic.
Mary Roach's "Stiff" goes over this topic as well. I was surprised to learn the sorts of things bodies are used for when donated; she even mentions how the bodies she witnessed being used for surgeries were for cosmetic surgery specifically, things like face lifts and rhinoplasty rather than organ transplants. Not that plastic surgery is always about vanity, but it seems hard to be "respectful" when your task is to judge a dead woman's face and decide her nose is ugly and how to fix it. It gets even worse when you get into forensics and such, since those bodies are pretty much just left out to rot in the sun to become worm farms. They definitely try to obscure the fact that this can be what happens, of course, because how else do you get people to sign on? I have no problem being worm food to solve a murder, it's not like I won't be rotting anyways, but most people feel differently, especially a person's relatives. It's a strange moral dilemma. Lie by omission to get what you need, or tell the whole truth and lose out on the bodies?
Plenty of people have voluntarily donated to the body farm. But it better be voluntary, @@rosen_venus
This story was absolutely mortifying. There's something about this one that hits harder than the tumblr bone witch or the foot tacos.
I think it's because in this one the people messing with your body parts are the people you directly put your trust in, rather than a random stranger.
Idk why any sane person would have foot tacos that's just weird
It's the true nature of how capitalism operates without any sort of restraints placed upon it. Thinking about sick weirdos doing sick weirdo things can make you feel a bit uneasy. The actions of those sorts of people can easily be explained away by them being disturbed weirdos though. Seeing the depraved things seemingly normal people you could encounter every day would do for money is a lot more unsettling.
heh mortifying
@DangerousD came here to make this joke lmao
Fyi most science/med schools want healthy, typical bodies for donation as they are easy and simple to learn from. It makes donating old, infirm, or diseased bodies kind of difficult. It's honestly better to donate your organs, which are more likely to be put to immediate use to save multiple lives, even if they come from someone who is older, had nonstandard anatomy or health complications but otherwise good organs and tissue. Transplantation and donation has saved multiple family members' lives, including my own. My kidney is 29 years older than me, old enough to retire lol. I've had both deceased and living donor transplant organs in my extended family, and it really is the gift of life.
Glad it worked out for you. I'm not living the healthiest life but I have a donor card. I'm just assuming stuff is better regulated in Europe.
I also believe organ donation is a fantastic thing. My grandfather got a heart transplant. Unfortunately he died because of a mistake that happened during the transplant but he still said he felt like the luckiest person in the world for having the opportunity to get one.
@Sparks you can have the option open to do both, actually. organ donations can only be taken from living bodies, typically those that are clinically brain dead. cadaver donations are obviously already dead, their organs cant be used for donation but their cadaver can still be used to help train medical students
@Sparks there aren't enough of either actually. And how do much good do you think all those organs will do if nobody is trained to do anything with them. Donate your bodies, burial is a scam.
It's like so trippy to think one day mu heart or kidney or something might be in another person. I've I've told skin can even be donated to burn victims, if my skin gets donated I expect the recipient to make as many Buffalo bill jokes as won't get them punched in the face.
"seminars involving cadavers in hotel ballrooms" oh god, I think I know the exact context behind this, something happened in my area like, incredibly recently and I think it may be what's alluded to here.
Going to put it a bit below as though the explanation isn't particularly gruesome, and this is literally a video in regards to disrespecting the dead for a profit, still feels appropriate to me.
Anyways an elderly man in my state WW2 veteran, passed from covid, he decided to donate his body to science. Instead his body is used in a pay-per-view autopsy in, as said above, a hotel ballroom. People paid between 250 to 500 for "vip seats" to watch a retired anatomy professor , the event making upwards of $10,000 in profit. It was billed as an educational event but clearly had no filters in place to weed out any dreadfully curious lookie-loos, it was pretty much a show. "There will be several opportunities for attendees to get an up close and personal look at the cadaver."
Worst part is the wife was not made aware of any of this, she knew he had willed his remains to science but it wasn't until the story initially made the news she learned what happened.
I agree the wife should have been informed. That being said a "live autopsy " is educational. the people in attendance will learn about the body , organs, and how autopsys are done. Is it macabre? Yes. But it's biology and biology is science so his wishes of being donated to science was fulfilled. Yea alot of the people might only be there for morbid curiosity reasons but idk why that's considered so taboo 🤷♀️
@@vampsarecool It's mostly just taboo because he didn't consent to a live autopsy, he consented to having his body donated to scientific research to help fight COVID and find out what underlying conditions it worsened that had him RSVPed to Jesus' cookout. If he (or even his wife at that point) consented to the live autopsy, it wouldn't have been such an issue.
What’s even worse is that respiratory condensation still comes out of the body after death. Morticians and medical examiners have to wear extensive PPE, and place plastic sheets over a body’s face to prevent condensation from escaping into the air from covid casualties. So there’s a good possibility that on top of people being careless about covid in public already, the people who went to view the body up close could have contracted covid from it. 😬
In case anyone is curious, I’ll try to find the video I saw where a mortician talk about postmortem respiratory condensation and edit the link into my comment.
If he gave his consetn while he was alive, why would his wife need to be informed?
We have a really crazy crematorium in my city - they have museum of death and funeral culture, once had dinosaur statues and live camel on the premises for whatever reason, employees wear Nazi-ish uniforms, they run all kinds of hearse parades, midnight anti-drug performances and cosplay events, and the founder, who died just a month ago, once admitted to tasting human ashes and was also under house arrest due to allegations of him bribing hospital morgue for information about relatives of recently deceased. It's fucking Willy Wonka and Funeral Services over there.
what city?
links or name of the place?
Novosibirsk Crematorium
@@averageeclairenjoyer3010 Given the country in which the crematorium is located, i can see why you didn't specify it at first where it was located
@@chimpazoo1143 You really want to get political here, under a nice wholesome video about illegal corpse trafficking?
Oh hey I live in Montrose.
The funeral home is now a center to help pregnant women who are struggling. When all the controversy was really fresh they were allowing my church to rent space to do our services on Sunday there, and the staff kitchen was in the room she would have cut the bodies up in. We sprayed a lot of holy water in that place.
Kinda poetic a building used to desecrate the dead is now used to help women bring life into the world.
I mean I’m not sure where I stand regarding the afterlife and religion but honest holy water seems like a good idea. I may not be sure but I’m sure I don’t wanna screw with that if it is…
My grandpa was going to be an organ donor, but everything basically exploded upon impact in a motorcycle accident. Whatever didn't explode wasn't salvageable enough to be used for donation.
Jesus
@@brettvv7475 He was going about 20mph when he hit. And you could see the black marking from when he tried to stop for months. Some impatient asshole decided to turn in front of him giving him little time to react. He hit the passenger side where the front of the door slides back, slammed face first into the windshield and then flipped up and over the car and got thrown through the air a good ways before he hit the ground. His helmet was a few feet from where he landed. I feel sorry for all the kids that had to see it, school was out and everyone was on the bus ride home. I just hope that the bus driver got them out of there before they could fully process the accident.
Imagine youre a ghost, and explicitly said you didn't want to donation any organs but see this lady stealing your gold teeth and intestines. I'd be haunting the crap out of her
Nah fam I’ll try to revive myself just to reassemble my body like some messed up version of legos
Just hope a necromancer gets hold of your remains, so you'll be able to whoop her ass out of the mortal realm
@@skeletonking2501 Come back and put yourself together through the power of *sheer and unadulterated rage*
@@RipRLeeErmey *TOO ANGRY TO DIE*
@@skeletonking2501 Castlevania moment
Didn't a funeral home do this in Brooklyn or Queens, too? They replaced cadaver limbs with metal or PVC pipes and sold bones, tissues, organs. Crazy.
I watched a documentary on that. The interview with the guy in charge was interesting. He seemed stuck on explaining that the business was operating legally and going about standard processes, even though none of that matters if the family never consented.
Mastromarino, has become a local horror story in New York mortuary schools for a while now. Ironically he died of bone cancer.
@@ixaix Name of documentary?
this makes me want a Whang and Ask a Mortician collab, oh, the horrors you two could talk about....
YESSS
“Internet’s Most Iconic Corpses”
I need this. They would vibe together so well.
Oh now i need it
We need to do what we can to facilitate this.
This was my first thought too!
As someone who has worked in EMS, the rumor that if you are an organ donor we will let you die is pretty easily debunked.
1. We usually don't find out if you are an organ donor. That's what happens in the hospital and even then in a lot of countries your relatives (or whoever has PoA) has to consent to donation anyway.
2. If we knew and IF it made a difference (It doesn't. Having someone die in your care is traumatic enough that you don't want that to happen anyway) it would actually shift the balance towards better care. Once you are dead your organs start to decay, for best organ donation the body is kept alive as long as possible to keep the organs in the best possible shape.
Sidenote for those that don't care about what happens to their bodies after death: Please consider informing yourself about becoming an organ donor. It's not for everyone (due to a myriad of reasons, all of them valid. No shame if you decide against it), but organ donations save a lot of lives.
well then theyd let you die once you reach the hospital, id guess it would be a douchey surgeon who does it
Based
If I'm in a gnarly accident I hope they kill me and give my organs to people who need them
Don't keep me on life support for a small possibility of living a fulfilling life
They honestly should have mandatory organ harvesting from death row and pedophiles.
When we live in a world where people get their DNRs tattooed on their chest to enforce them, idk why it's assumed doctors care or even know about your status as an organ donor.
I’ve been watching for 2+ years and I still can’t get a read on what stories this man will cover next. My minds like shooting a shotgun at internet lore while Whang is 200+ feet away sniping the one I don’t see!
tales from the internet.
💯💯🤣 right?
Well put
He still has Mr. hands and that Zootopia comic to cover.
Uhhh he has a defentive style. It’s pretty obvious.
It's funny seeing this story get picked up worldwide. I'm from the area, and she used to work and live on my best friend's grandparent's ranch. He says she was always a weirdo. And yeah, that hair is pretty common on older women here.
In what ways was she weird? And what did your gramps think of the whole situation?
@@skeletonking2501 He didn't really specify, just said she was strange and dressed like she was dead or something. And it was his grandfather's ranch if that was misunderstood. I have no idea what his thoughts are.
@@lachlann Dressed like she was dead... Would make sense if she stole the clothes off the bodies, wouldn't it
@@GibleKazam Given how her and her mum were literally bragging about stealing off dead bodies they absolutely would do that. They have such a sick mentality that I can very much believe they have a wardrobe or two full of stolen dead people's clothes and jewellery too.
I work in the funeral industry and I can honestly and very sadly say how scarily easy it would be to do something like this. Once the family have seen them and it’s time for the coffin to be sealed… no one would ever ever know… scary!
It pleases me to know the people who would do this are extremely stupid or greedy and that’s the reason that gets them caught and punished.
Same
Yeah, or: it shows how greedy and stupid someone doing this has to be to get caught. Note how out of all the insanely immoral things they did the only parts that were apparently provably illegal were "mail fraud" and "transporting hazardous material". I'm afraid this is much more common than we would like to believe. That being companies profiting off of deceased bodies "donated to science", without the relatives' knowledge or real consent, and none of the money going to the relatives.
From an article on the body trade:
"A company called Science Care reaps $27 million in annual revenue by recruiting body donors through hospices, funeral homes and online ads."
"Although the company’s donor consent forms state that “Science Care is a for-profit company,” they do not explicitly disclose that bodies or parts will be sold."
"Gail Williams-Sears, a nurse in Newport News, Virginia, said neither she nor her father realized Science Care might profit when he donated his body before his death in 2013."
And because companies like Science Care are actually smart, this is all legal.
How about all the Fucko's who do this that are Smart, we never find out about, though?
@@ryan.1990 cLumP of CeLlS
@@ryan.1990 We get it. You're Pro-Life, you can stop commenting it to multiple people now. Nobody gives a shit.
A business here in Phoenix AZ was busted for this some years ago. It was called Biological Resource Center. A totally non-descript building in an industrial complex on a quiet side street. When busted, a woman's head was found sewn on aan's body, buckets of male genitalia, and numerous other nightmare scenarios. The utter disregard for people's dignity was staggering.
After losingy husband this year, I can't fathom going through something so awful. I'm so fortunate to have a wonderful friend in the funeral industry. I know she & her colleagues ensured he was cared for in his final journey.
They were removing parts with a chainsaw too. The guy that ran that company is VERY close to becoming a serial killer. I'm sorry to hear about your husband's, I can't imagine that. I just remember how my dad reacted after my mother died. He was shattered. I know there'll nothing I can say to help, but I hope you are doing ok.
damnit I'd just forgotten about the cooler of penises
They.... sewed a woman's head.... onto another body?
I Swear Stacey, this is some Nightmare Fuel type shit. i wish i had never even heard about it today. i mean, i can't even imagine knowing your Husband, or even worse SON'S "Genitalia" has been hacked off and thrown in a Bucket with like a 100 others. how these people aren't Murdered by the Families, ill never know. we *REALLY* Need to bring back Hangings and the Guillotine as a Society.
@@sarah69420 it was some crazy shit
I've heard about this kind of thing. They'll sell your Grandma's corpse to Raytheon where they'll shoot rockets at it to test the antipersonnel capabilities
The fact that this really happened…
Really does sound like a Wormwood comic.
That sounds metal as fuck. Is it possible to sell my own corpse to them while i'm alive, or do i have to go to a funeral home sketchy enough to do that first?
I don't have much reverence for the dead, but I know other people do. It's pretty heartless to hand someone a bucket of concrete instead of the ashes
Yeah, toss me out somewhere on the highway in a plastic bag for all I care, however, it's pretty fucked up to mess the bodies of someone (or their loved ones) who _do_ care.
Yeah, yeah, we get how cool and edgy you are about your own dead body. But burial and honour for dead isn’t for the dead. Ask yourself: how would YOU feel if someone mutilated a body of your child?
@@3rdHalf1 What are you talking about? Cool and edgy? That's dumb and you should feel bad. Also, both the OP and I _stated fucking clearly_ that it's messed up.
@@3rdHalf1 Wtf are you on about?
@@3rdHalf1 wtf is wrong with you, weirdo
The light ashes thing immediately tipped me off. A couple years ago our dog Rainbow passed away and we had her cremated. She was a fairly average sized dog, a 60-ish pound yellow lab, and when we got her ashes back it was pretty heavy, pretty sure that bag was at least 25-30 pounds, and that's a dog, if actual human ash remains feel suspiciously light, that's an immediate red flag
Removing and selling gold teeth from cadavers is some shit straight out of a pirate story
Recently I’ve gotten into D&D dice collecting. Was showing my friend a set that I found cool when she showed me a set of “Necromancer’s dice”. I don’t know how I feel about it, but she said she really wants them. Being said, the reason it’s so creepy is it’s made using bone; human bone. I had seen antler bone dice, but these dice were cut from donated bodies.
Being a D&D fan; she said she’d be honored to be turned into a set of dice, but I don’t know how the people who donated their body would feel about it. I think a lot of them would be upset that they were turned into some dice for a game. Literally playing with dead people.
I’ll admit it’s a cool idea, but maybe a bit macabre and unethical.
Think I’d feel a lot better if the donators were aware they’d be turned into dice.
Why does it matter if they agreed and also frankly a dead person's wishes don't matter because they're dead
@@Outcast115 If you haven't noticed, majority of people care about their bodies after death. That's why we have cemeteries. While you personally might not care about how you're handled after death, a lot of people do. Religious or not, its normal to feel bad for the dead and dying. Only recently has disrespecting the dead been a more common occurrence. While they may be dead, they have people who loved and cared for them, so consider them anytime you see a procession. So while yes, they may be dead... that doesn't mean you get to treat them like its trash.
considering human bones suck the moisture out of your fingers when you grab them. I'd hate to feel human bone dice.
@@TheVincenzoGaming my guess is they’d have some protective coating so they don’t take damage, become water resistant, and obviously keep moisture out. Though I did not know that bones do that… and honestly it’s equally cool and creepy.
This story is so bizarre to me, I literally lived 45 minutes away from the town it took place in, and my grandparents live there. Imagine if one of them had died and we got their bodies cremated there and this is what they did to the body. Absolutely hit home in a bad way.
Bro literally?
I love all your videos. There's this funeral home in Pocatello, Idaho that was busted with like 15 unidentified decomposing body's and multiple fetuses...... the only reason they got busted was the WHOLE neighborhood reported a horrible smell. This was at about a year ago and I think it's just going to court now.
I’m more confused why there were multiple rotting FETUSES in a funeral home and how they obtain them
@@skeletonking2501 over 50 fetuses...
@@skeletonking2501 Some people want to hold funerals for miscarried babies
@@thepinkestpigglet7529 that's not what this place was doing....
@@slipknot42088 I’m…I’m trying to process that right now… Also, how does one fuck up that badly that you can basically smell the crime
One of my favorite things from Whang's videos is that they are mixed impeccably with the audio. Probably because he's in a band, and has a ear for it. Nonetheless, I fucking love it.
I'm a licensed mortician, I have the associates of applied science from the dallas institute of funeral services. I have a crematory operator license as well as an embalmers license through the state of texas. That being said the gold teeth nonsense is a myth. During cremation we do 'turn overs' every so often. I crush skulls technically etc. We pull out large bone fragments and put them through a processor that grinds the material into the ashes people are used to seeing. If any gold survives the processor, it is so small and messed up that we just add it to* a metals container [ literally the thing that woman showed the previous employee ] which is filled up to a certain amount and then recycled for a small reimbursement to the crematory itself. We do this with* all surgical & precious metals that survive the 1250F heat of the primary chamber in the cremation retort. We always tell families we refuse to do it, they have to call dentists who will refuse and then they just accept that it's creepy to want grandmas teeth for only a $10 return - if that
ALSO: porcelain teeth survive the initial cremation & and that is what the old lady showed to the previous employee *** I always have a little plastic container specifically for the teethies
also also WTF I'm up in Denver now, working in the basement of a cemetery & I could neverrrrrrr imagine cutting apart a body. I feel bad having to raise more than one artery when I'm embalming. This lady is the talk of the death town right now up here. It's wild! This woman is why no one trusts those of us who take our job seriously and want to do it honorably :(
the upcoming Youtooz Whang figure should collaborate with a mason jar company
My dad wants to donate his body to science and unless he dies right when I get my tax return, I have no way to cremate him otherwise so I looked into it where I live and they make you pay still?! Like 100-200 bucks for transport?! Plus they don’t accept bodies with certain illnesses which my dad has. Here I thought it was easy peasy to donate your cadaver.
hella lame
...wouldnt they want all bodies???? the more varied the more to learn???? especially in someone with a certain illness????
@@ghoulishtoad That’s why I’m so perplexed. It might vary from state to state or country to country but I couldn’t believe it.
Dude, it cost me $500+ to creamate my goddamn cat.
@@ghoulishtoad I imagine the reason why some would be rejected for certain diseases is because of health reasons of the researchers. They probably don't want someone getting sick if the disease is an infectious one.
This reminds me of the guy whose mom's corpse somehow ended up in an Army artillery proving ground without the son's consent and was blown to smithereens by various explosives.
Lol what the hell
I'm kind of surprised Caitlin Doughty hasn't covered this one yet
Just imagine walking through a parking lot all tired after work. Gonna go home and just rest your tired head.. Then you walk by a guy watering the plants, but wait.. there is no plants ! It's someones grandpa.
I work for a funeral home and had a family fly into our state from NJ earlier this week actually, and during the ID view the mother of the decedent, when we weren't looking (as we do not stand over shoulders during viewing) striped the blankets and sheets off of him to see the rest of his mangled body (he had died in a serious accident and it was impressive he was viewable) because she wanted to make sure we weren't chopping him up and selling parts of him?? She got really upset that she had to see her son in that state all messed up, in the nude, the coroner bag underneath the sheets made to cover him up except his face... *luckily* she was more reasonable about it than anticipated as she would rather have known he was all together (as together as he could be) and have to see him in the state he was than let it gnaw at her if he was chopped and sold and we just like.. kept his head to sallow the family to view.
In other news, death is ungodly expensive and unfair to the living. Make a pre-need arrangement with your funeral home, you can plan your service and a good funeral home can guarantee their prices at the time the pre-need is made, someone saved nearly $600 on a casket via pre-need. Go to a mom and pop funeral home and not a corporate one, corporations will guilt trip you into spending more money because it's to 'honor your loved one' and are in it because it is a necessity and not because they love the work. Get upset at the cost, write to local legislators because even like how food stamps are done, government aid should be at the very least accessible when someone passes away even if it's difficult and annoying and unknown, it being available is better than not.
And if you are upset at the cost, know the funeral home staff is trying their best and are not your enemy. We want to take care of your loved one because that is the least we can do. Me and all my peers in my firm are here because we love people enough to see them off to their final resting place.
I'd have no issues with having my bones sold after I'm no longer using them, or any organ for rhat matter. But I demand royalties to be given to anyone close to me.
Agreed. Donate my organs and maybe don't let a necrophilac at me but otherwise if my future kids can make money off of me instead of spending money burying or burning me that have my permission too sell me as dog food if they want.
My pet betta fish is named Sergio
I'd do something like a organ loan. If the person who doesn't receive my organ pays a certain amount of money to my family, then the organ gets removed.
@@lordofzooprog is it at least aggressive enough to honor the name?
@@nevaeh9125 That's a bit too dystopian for me tbh. I don't want a bunch of repo men pulling livers out.
I used to live in a town with a large university hospital. Selling body parts was illegal like in most other places But if the university auctioned off a bunch of retired medical specimens that was fine. Then if someone bought an auction lot and put it in their oddity shop, also perfectly fine
yep, there are websites online where you can buy retired human skeletons. i think theyre around 5k+ for a whole skeleton
Pretty sure people can still run into legal issues by owning them outside of a situation like oddity shops
@@NillaVille that's pretty much the answer I got when I looked into it. Yea it's a skull but it's a skull that's been in a classroom or supply closet for like 40 years. They can either auction it or throw it is the dumpster
so, are we talking WVU, or Marshall? 👀
I'm proud to say after rating this video 5 stars I chose the "heartwarming" option.
i’m working toward a degree in mortuary and funeral science. this is sickening. i couldn’t imagine doing this to a family or having it done to my own. my heart goes out to everyone affected by this awful woman.
It's jarring hearing this story in the context of "crazy internet news." My dad's cremation was handled by Megan Hess, and she provided the whole service for free (I was 18 and just started college at the time and she said that "a child shouldn't have to bury their parents so young"). We never got his ashes tested because we weren't contacted for being potentially affected during the investigation, but a part of me is admittedly curious.
This happened to my step dad's step dad. Turns out his ashes were cremated animal parts. FBI found his arm in some third world country. Can't remember. The funeral was under investigation for awhile.
4:47 hey one of my professors worked on this case and actually drew this picture!! Its called the Economy head case and actually happened close to my hometown. Basically a kid finds an old lady’s head when walking home from school and the police begin investigating. Dr Vitali, the forensic illustrator, was called in to help and she was able to determine the head was part of the body parts trade because of the way it was severed (cut below a certain neck vertibrae number). She’s an amazing person and professor and has so many cool stories about forensics and anatomy :} I actually believe this case is covered in one of the new seasons of unsolved mysteries and it was mentioned in an exhibit she had this past year: all that remains
My mother was affected by something like this though it happened in Detroit. The hospital used parts from a funeral home doing this. She had to get a blood test regularly for a few years because an AIDS patient was one of the people they sold parts from. Such a messed up thing to do to people.
Holy shit. I usually find your videos like 2 weeks after they're posted. YT algorithm is ON FUCKING POINT today!!!
My old videos have been getting more views too so I think I was out of the algorithm and now I'm back in.
You can subscribe to people. If you do that, you can go to a specific page on UA-cam to see the most recent videos the channels you’re subscribed have posted.
@@JustinWhangYt I wonder if they’re algorithm is doing something weird, lately it’s like they’re forcing me to watch videos rather then having what I want to watch in the recommended.
Why don't you just subscribe ?
@@JustinWhangYt You're a goddamned KING!!! You remind me.of my friend Stroud a lot!
"It's not illegal to have 80's hair"
Damn right it's not.
My grandmother's body was unfortunately chopped up and sold in a Brooklyn funeral home
this is just sickening.. and my god one of the victims’ father was part of the famous screaming eagles 101st airborne division in ww2 who spearheaded operation overlord, operation market garden, battle of the bulge in bastogne, liberating the netherlands, d-day as a whole, liberating kaufering, the list goes on.. band of brothers is about them and it’s one of the best shows i think i’ve ever seen in my entire life. how disrespectful and heartbreaking for all families involved 💔😔
Just wanna say, cremation is waayyyy more expensive than people realize. My mom died in April 2020, had her cremated, as per her request.. Got the bill and it was $5,000. I STILL OWE ON THE BALANCE.. ugh. And the funeral home will not give me her ashes until the bill is paid off. They told me to take out a loan. Can’t get one. Everyone one is struggling and I just don’t have the money. And they won’t accept payments, it has to be paid in full. Very upsetting and distressing.
Life is expensive, Moms gonna have to be accepting and you should not even pay them, ask god for forgiveness he understands.
Don’t pay them
Your mom would want you to use that money for yourself
@@MZRFaith I want to pay them because I want her ashes. I have my dads and I’d really like to have them both together. They won’t give me her death certificates either. Without them, I can’t do anything. Everything is still in my moms name, including my house, our cars, etc… Everything legal, taxes.. And it’s been 2 years. I didn’t expect the cost to be so high. When my dad died in 2014, it was only 3500.
@Abraham Johnathan I live in Pennsylvania and I don’t believe they can hold the ashes, but I’m not positive. Death certificates here are 20$ each. And they ordered me 5, so 100 for those. They had me sign a contract, to which I don’t have a copy of. They didn’t outright say they’ll hold the ashes until balance is paid. And around half the balance is paid. Unless they’ve tacked on late fees. I live is a small town and not a lot of people die here. Maybe 5 people in a month, tops. Even during Covid, not many people actually died of it. Most people are buried not cremated. The funeral home might very well have a basement full of ashes, lol
I need to talk to a lawyer about it. Have to find one that’ll give a consult for free because I can’t even afford that lol
Edit- rereading your comment- She died in April, during Covid when everything was closed. Including our courthouse where I’d have to register her will and death certificate and everything so I couldn’t even do that at the time.
As a aspiring mortician (embalming, specifically), I would NEVER do this. Embalming is not some fun job where you can just cut corners. It is a medical career involving innocent, grieving people. This is absolutely insane.
It feels so weird seeing a story you actually remember happening show up here. I live about an hour away from Montrose and i've been through there on family trips. North of Montrose there's a cluster of towns with a total population of almost 100k (Grand Junction and the related towns like Fruita, Mack, Clifton, Palisade) where I live. At the time my family paid for the local paper and when I would wake up in the morning to get ready to walk to the bus, I'd absentmindedly look at the front headlines. For about a week as the police investigated this lady and her business, she'd show up on the front page with yet another article detailing whatever horrifying shit the police found the day before. Glad to hear she got hit with the full 20 years.
If you have "Donor" on your DL or state ID, it is only valid (in the U.S.) when you go to website to complete the form to be either a full-body donor or an organ donor (in case you don6eant to be a ballistics dummy or an ottoman, etc).
I've had 6 gold teeth for ages which belonged to my mom, dad and grandma which were extracted both before and after death. So much yikes.
You have the gold teeth of your dead family members? That’s fucking creepy sorry.
They will always be invading your personal energy space. Why ask for that
i'm an organ donor. but the idea of someone taking my organs _without_ consent is horrifying... i can't imagine what these families went through.
The hotel ballroom! Are you talking about what happened here in Portland, where some group sold tickets to people for hundreds of dollars to witness an autopsy like it's the 1880s. Turns out the family had donated that person for medical research. This was during COVID. Edited to add: there really is no good association with the name Koch.
Shipped em straight to Arby’s
So that's why Arby's tastes so good.
Oh cannibalism
Here in Tennessee we have a "body farm" at UT where they put bodies in several different ways seeing how decomp would go for the forensics department
I can't help but feel it would be more profitable and less risky to just run a brothel for necrophiliacs.
“I’m sorry, but why does my mother’s body smell distinctly of come?”
@@skeletonking2501 "she also smells like rotten meat now shut up and start digging"
Don't give anyone ideas...
Whang's mom is right about that check box on the back of your ID. I had a cancerous tumor removed from my eye when I was a baby, but Sloan Kettering tried to convince my family to radiate and remove my eyeball anyway because they wanted to study it. Luckily my parents started arguing and were too preoccupied yelling at each other to give consent. Research is big business.
What you're saying is nonsense. Your being an organ donor or not only matters after you're dead.
Also everyone's foreskins
My Dad had his Surgeries TOTALLY Paid for due to having BIG Tumors on his Head, Neck and Left Arm taken off and "Studied" they TOLD HIM "The Money we've made selling your Tumors paid for your Surgery many times over"
Research is different from organ donation, the checkmark on your ID refers to donation to people in need of transplants and it's super regulated. I think it's highly unlikely they'd just 'let people die' because in order for an organ to be viable for transplantation into a patient, you have to die in very specific circumstances where your organ can be preserved. This kind of paranoid thinking is why we have so many people dying on the transplant list in the USA right now.
My grandmother was an organ donor, they luckily found a match for both of her kidneys and liver !! I'm so happy to know that Donate Life is a trusted organization. I was half listening and doing makeup, heard the name, and then started freaking out a little
The saddest part is those cement mix sent in place for the cremated ashes may not even be enough to build and perch up a tombstone.
Bossman/Big Show's Dad also makes Kane/Katie Vick come to mind.
"Hotmail haircut" had me in stitches. The rest though was absolutely appalling. (Not the video, which was great! But the story.) I can't help but think though that she never would have made the money she had without the buyers. I hope law enforcement went after them, too.
arizona had a body broker situation like this recently, just with frankensteining of bodies and such, can’t remember all the details
It's extra terrifying when an old morbid tales from the Internet ended with a minor update that took place in the same year you're watching that video.
As soon as I started watching this the first thought I had was "I have a rare disease. What would happen to someone if they received my organs?"
I read a piece of dark fiction years ago about a veteran whose cremains contained a rather large chunk of threaded steel, allegedly traced to a mortar bomb. And his family was absolutely astonished that he had lived and worked with this huge piece of steel embedded in him without a word of complaint. Of course it was nothing of the sort; rather, a medical student had removed the man's femur and replaced it with a length of water pipe.
As fiction, the story imparted a definite frisson. As fact, it is a horrible betrayal of trust to do such a thing. And for the families affected by this case and other, similar, cases, I really have no words beyond an acknowledgement of the heartbreak that would accompany the discovery of the truth.
Christ, that was frightening to just read your account of it.
@@bayersbluebayoubioweapon8477 Somebody's imagination sure earned its keep when the author wrote that story.
Dude I’m a local from Montrose, that lady is soulless and brings shame to my small town:(
"that's a hotmail haircut if I've ever seen one" why does this make perfect sense
8:00 hearing what body parts are worth monetarily is so eerie to me. Like picking up a pound of hamburger and some tbones from the store
“Hey we’re running low on concrete and need some fast”
“Alright let me grab grandpa’s ashes”
0:27 is so menacing but the lo-fi is so chill
0:10 Fun fact Apple does not produce their own technology They use Samsung batteries and screens
Honestly, I've already been thinking of getting myself off of the organ donation list. Over the years after I initially got my license I've kept on hearing about crap like this story that has made me get to the point I rather be just cremated. The amount of profits that are made from donated/"donated" organs just makes me extremely uncomfortable.
Don't donate your organs unless your comfortable with your remaining family being charged for the removal surgery fees.
This. ☝️
-Nick Clem
This sounds like an inspiration for a Metal Album. "Funeral Home Garage Sale" sounds like a sweet album.l
I totally forgot about this story,when I saw the notification I thought it was about the funeral homes in NY/NJ where they were taking skin and knees and stuff like that and bones and putting PVC to replace the bones.The funeral home business is crazy.
I think of Big Boss man dragging Big Shows’ dad’s casket when I’m at my saddest. I remember seeing it on tv live, and that’s a memory my brain decided to hold on to for the rest of my life. It’s still one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen.
Hey Whang! I mentioned this in older videos but I was wondering if you've ever heard about a very graphic video from...2008?2007? about a guy from an asian? country trying to jump from a bridge to the water but he misses the water and he hits his face on concrete, the whole video was low quality and recorded in an old phone obviously, but i remember the video also having like, a warning screen in three languages, loud and unsettling music and there being a second part to the video where the doctors recorded what the guy face ended up like (it was split in half, all super graphic)
I remember this video being shared EVERYWHERE back then including uploads to facebook and youtube, I also remember theories of people saying the second part of the video was from a shotgun accident, I cant remember much because I was like 12 at the time that video got viral (viral to what was 2007-09 not today's meaning of viral)
Im curious if it was ever found out waht happened with the guy or his identity or anything on the matter lol I do not dare google this as an adult, I dread whatever result I might get, I cannot stand graphic stuff
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I remember seeing this random video from when I was like nine or ten about a woman who had tore the skin off of lower neck, not just like the skin but the muscle and stuff underneath. She had a towel around the area until she took it off, and showed a big gaping hole in her neck. I don't remember there being much blood, and I suspected it was fake even at the time, but she stuck her finger in to flick at... something, so I wasn't too sure. It was also fairly low quality so it was hard to tell anything.
i'm pretty sure this is like the face splitting video or something. unfortunately, if i remember correctly, the video was real and the kid ended up passing away in the hospital a few days after he was admitted
I'm pretty sure the shotgun blast theory turned out to be bullcrap because I remember who claimed to have lived in that area saying they believed the second video was in fact from the same incident as they were speaking not only the same language but dialect (or however you word it when people of a speicifc area might speak in a specific way)
This lady is one of the reasons I forbid my family to cremate me because I would like my family to know for certain where my body ended up. I'm not as attached to my organs though so honestly I wouldn't care if my organs themselves got donated and saved someone, but I would like my family to at least know this is what was happening rather than it being a surprise.
Should have hit them with the books!! They just "changed" their plea to guilty 😔 isn't it a crime to lie in court
A man watering a corpse: *nonchalant whistling*
So Whang has a mother. I thought he just spawned somewhere at random.
My mother donated her remains to a reputable organization to be used for research. They offered to explain to us what research she would be helping (not what they would do with her remains, just the types of research) and we chose not to know. They picked up her remains from hospice, they were dressed professionally and respectfully. They prayed with us and thanked us and gave us a prayer blanket. They returned her ashes to us and only charged for the shipping. They were so respectful and kind and made a difficult day a little easier for us.
This so called funeral home treated people like trash. I can’t imagine the pain they caused to these families. They caused so much trauma at what is already a traumatic time, I hope they get treated like trash during their prison stay.
This happens a lot in veterinarian's places, I'm not surprised it also happen with people
People are awful
Why do vets need parts off dead pets? I've never heard of an organ transfer for a family dog
@@noided4230 selling animal body parts to veterinary schools, universities, biology schools etc.
I Get that the Doctors need real Bodies to work with, so they can save more people/animals, but to STEAL them is just fucking terrible, man.
A couple years ago I lost my cat to cancer. They were telling me they could take care of the "mass cremation" and I'd get some ashes. I'd hate to think this was their idea too. I took the cat back home and to a cremation the next day myself.
Fortunately or unfortunately (or both - depends on your point of view), there are more than enough unwanted dogs to provide specimens for vet schools. The ones I trained on came from the greyhound racing industry's annual cull of dogs that didn't run fast enough. Since then, I and other colleagues have learned new surgical techniques on the bodies of highly aggressive dogs surrendered to the pound (and humanely euthanized there), and feral cats trapped in bird sanctuaries. It breaks our hearts that humans have failed these animals, but it's some small consolation at least that we can use them to build our skills to help save other animals. There's really no need to be stealing the bodies of our patients, even if we'd wanted to (which we don't - I'm far too fond of my patients to want *anything* to go wrong for them after we've let them go!). If nothing else, then from a purely practical point of view, it'd honestly be a lot of hassle and take up a lot of space we don't have, to be stealing bodies and covering it up. Easier and quicker to put them straight in a tagged body bag and leave them in the chiller for the pet crematorium folks to collect.
Yeah check out the scandal at the body donation center at Paris Descartes university in france. Same kind of story but with gross negligence and lack of budget in my old university. I remember that a lot of people knew there were bodies rotting away in the basement, some getting eaten by rats and some getting sold but it took an investigative journalist to finally break the story out. The basement of this uni was weird.
This Ask a Mortician video is really weird... Why does Caitlin have a moustache?
Bro that Big Boss Man segment lives in my head rent free. I can't hear the word "bastard" without thinking of it.
She's got 20 years
My grandma is heavily against putting organ donation on your driver’s license because she thinks if the president needs an organ, the government will kill you for your organs
Whang could have his own children to work in his sweartshop to make his t-shirts.
You pay for the cheapest, you get a jar of concrete powder.
See, this is why a degree in Mortuary Sciences is required in literally every other state in the Union.
Gotta be the best intro passage of all time.
This reminds me of the reason I'm banned from owning a shovel.
You were just making unboxing videos, they got no right to take away your permission to dig up veterans graves
You aren’t that friendly are you?
@@D44RK_Iced_Yogs I am, I'm more not a radio
Thank God I'm not the only one
@Safwaan exactly! He should’ve been allowed to help his buddy out with his “I spent 24hr’s buried in a grave!” Video!
The rare extremely serious Whang video. The depravity of some people, all in the name of profit.
As someone in school to be a funeral director and embalmer, this is super freaky but super interesting
Weird question, but whats the gender ratio for that career? Literally every funeral director i've met (which tbf is only about four) have been women, is that just a weird coincidence?
@@amelialonelyfart8848 it used to be a male dominated field but it’s actually becoming way more female dominated. I don’t know the percentages off the top of my head though
Lol my mom says the same thing about having the organ donation on your drivers license!!! 😂🤣😂
Update-Hess received 20 years and her mother received 15, for those that are curious.
Megan Hess looks like every aunt from the 90’s rolled into one