" I'm not a fan of osprey packs; "I just don't believe that backpacks needs all these pockets, zippers and straps", but i really like this model, except , it lacks zippers and straps ! Hard to please.....
The thing with Osprey packs is even though they're a lot heavier than your average UL pack, they also tend to be way more comfortable. I've found that the frame and suspension and their anti-gravity system help mitigate that extra weight and allows you to carry a lot more stuff with a lot less discomfort, and the straps are really thick and padded and comfortable. If you're the kind of backpacker who likes to hike in luxury and bring a chair, a roomy two-person tent, real food with cookware like skillets etc, then these packs are the way to go. Even if you have a more minimalist setup, the suspension on these packs will make you feel whatever weight you do have less so than other packs would. For instance putting 20 pounds of stuff into an UL backpack and 20 pounds of stuff into an Osprey backpack and trying them both on will usually reveal the Osprey pack to be a lot more comfortable. I also tend to use all the extra bells and whistles. The provided rain cover has kept my stuff dry in heavy thunderstorms before, while the brain is where I store things I might need quickly such as my first aid kit, lighter, and my warm clothes in the wintertime. The hydration pocket for a camelbak is also pretty nice and the mesh on the frame allowing air to cool your sweaty back is a must-have imo. For reference I use the Atmos 65.
I totally agree with you. Im curious how your rain cover was fitted as when I used mine on Atmos65 the rain pooled in the bottom & the small hole didn’t drain. Any tips? Tx
I agree with you. While my perfect pack would be the Atmos AG 65 with a couple fewer pockets/straps (and get rid of that divider between the sleeping bag compartment and the main pack!) I find the more comfortable suspension makes the weight worth it. Years ago I went the UL route with a MLD Trail Star, Katabatic Gear Helios 55, etc, but over time I have walked back up to a 15-18 pound baseweight. I tend to go on longer unsupported backpacking trip of 5-8 days. At 2 lbs of food per day that adds 10-16 lbs of additional weight plus water. I never found that a fully laden UL pack would carry well once consumables were factored in. Plus I have found there are creature comforts that I really like that create a bit of a positive feedback loop (heavier stuff requires heavier pack), for example I like a palatial tent - usually taking the 4.2 lb 3P Hilleberg Anjan.
Ultra light Minimalist Is always the right way BUT I AM WITH YOU in being the heavier safer pack I like these packs They are world renowned for a reason JAH BLESS ... 🙏🏻👍🏻👏🏻🔥🚶🏻♂️
I commented on one of your other videos but this should have been the one to comment on. I own this pack and love it. One signifcant modification, however, makes it much better if not perfect. My inspiration is the Gregory Focal 55. On that pack side compression straps may be routed hidden/inside the stretchy side pockets allowing compression at same time giving full use of stretchy side pockets even under f 7:28 ull compression. Problem with the Exos is the compression straps are permanently on outside of side pockets creating a real use problem when pack is fully compressed. What's more is the bottom side compression side is couple to/attached to the hip belt. My experience with this pack proves that this coupling s unnecessay and by decoupliing the compression strap from the hip belt results in more comfort and better function of the hip belt on my hips and then with a couple small 1/4" slits in ripstop fabric, a few hidden stitches plus super strong waterproof fabric glue, I have rerouted compression straps to under/hidden/inside stretchy side pockets. I also detached the upper compression and moved it. Now I have full use of stretchy side pockets and large front stretchy pocket even while the pack is under full ccompression. Water bottles and other items go in and out without a struggle whatsoever. Or even run longer items inside of side pockets yet still under comoression with full functional use of stretchy side pocket such as a water bottle beig put in or taken out without messin with the compression. The modification looks totally factory like it was designed that way. Side hipbelt pockets also are more functional being uncoupled from compression straps because when the belt is niw cinched down it does not stress pockets back in a weird way. This ended up being more comfortable as well. I wish there was a way to send pics. Anyway my mods added no weight and made the pack hugely more functional and just a little more comfortable.
The reason the Exos 55 seems bigger than the Arc Haul 60, is that Z packs includes the capacity of all the pockets in their number. Most manufacturers list only “covered” compartments in their volume. Open pockets are unmeasured additional volume, since you can put bigger items that stick out in them. Exos has 55L in the main compartment + brain. Stretch pocket and side pockets are unmeasured additional storage. Z Packs arc haul 60L is 47L body, 8L stretch pocket, 2.5 each side pocket.
I have an Osprey Talon 11L daypack and I fell in love with it the first time I used it. My partner and I hiked a trail that has a portion that requires rappelling down some pretty steep inclines on ropes and then 6km on very sharp rocks to a secluded cove. A well balanced pack is necessary for sure footing as if you wreck an ankle you'd need to call the coast guard in before the tide traps you. (Bay of Fundy, highest tides in the world) and on the way back as soon as we climbed back up the ropes we were hit with a severe thunderstorm (wasn't in the forecast). Deafening thunderclaps and heavy rains and the inside of the pack stayed dry (with my Nikon DSLR in there too). had some dry clothes in my dry bag and wasn't expecting wet weather at all so learned a lesson for next time. Also I realized it was missing a piece for the stow on the go trekking pole feature and just emailing Osprey lastnight I got a reply in less then an hour that they were preparing to ship me out the part soon (my first time using a warranty like this) I would love to get a Stratos 36 or 44 as an overnight or weekender. I only dabble in UL so the pro versions are a bit too rich for my blood but I would certainly try Osprey again. My only complaint is that the cool Osprey logo wore off so fast. They should really embroider them or something.
I got hooked on Osprey years ago with my Xenith. Cavernous for long trips, comfortable, easy access. Sold it to a kid hiking the AT. I just bought a Atmos 65. The waist belt is tighter than I like so I'm looking to swap it out; but I got it at such a good price, I had to buy it. Your pack looks good so thanks for sharing.
An osprey atmos 65 was my first pack 5 years ago, and it’s the same one I use today. There is a lot of extra weight and unnecessary organization, but I love the pack. It’s incredibly comfortable and adjustable and there is no wear. I have no desire nor need to purchase a new backpack, so it saves me a lot. I don’t understand how you could actually hate the pack, even with every opinion you listed, but to each their own. I will gladly continue to enjoy my time outdoors because of my atmos.
I'm so mad at myself for not buying one 6 years ago. They used to have the green/orange pack everywhere. I went with an Aether, and the lactic acid build up I get in my upper glutes is so annoying I've been rocking it with just shoulder straps for half the time. I'm average build as well
Good video, you left out the mighty guarantee. I send my aether 65 in at the 10 years old mark for repairs. In addition to the repairs, they put a new belt and shoulder harness on the pack. Pretty much a new pack.
I love my Osprey pack. It took me thousands of miles across Europe, probably hundreds by foot. It was a great investment and quite durable. I am an athletic, stout guy and don't mind that it's not an ultralight backpack. I wanted size and features and quality construction and it delivered. It's ten years old and just as good as the day I bought it. Osprey would be my first choice for my next pack should I ever need one. I just really loved the way it took an enormously heavy load and spread it across my body in such a way that I didn't really notice the weight.
Nice! I bought this exact backpack mere two weeks ago, and I love it just the same. The construction is comfortable, yet stable, and I experienced none of the weight shifting I dealt with before, when using older and cheaper backpack.
I have a Ren65 that runs just under 5lb. Packed I am hauling right a 40lbs. I use it as a day pack and come in at around 15lbs without my sleep system and food. Clearly, I am not a UL hiker! I'm a 5'2", over 50, overweight, female hiker. Finding anything that actually fits is a challenge. Osprey's adjustable everything works well in getting the pack fitted and comfortable.
I have a 5 year old Osprey Atmos 50 and I love it. The suspension and the mesh is what makes it for me. Also the bladder compartment with the little strap and clip is well thought out. It does weigh in at 4.5 lbs but it sure is comfortable and functions well enough that I don't feel the need to get anything else. Cheers
I have one of the previous models of this pack and can definitely recommend it. There are somethings that I like better with the new version (hip belt pockets), but there are some things I like on the older model (more user friendly buckles, easy to remove brain, that kind of thing)... just preference but I'd still recommend it. Only wish it was water resistant.
I have a Hyperlite that I love, but it leaves my back wet from sweat. I recently bought the Exos 58 for the fact that it stays off of my back during warmer backpacking trips. I had a hard time finding one that really felt like it “belongs” on me, and am still not quite happy with the fit, but my back feels so much happier. The pack fits everything I need and is completely comparable to the Hyperlite. And yes, I was nodding when you were talking about the compression strap, which is marvelous on the Hyperlite. The Exos has it’s own methods of compression, but nothing like the Hyperlite.
I’ve been waiting for this UL craze to come full circle on backpacks. I figure it’s only a matter of time before people realize that ‘traditional’ packs were designed for backpacking and will offer the best experience. Stripping down frames and necessary load bearing features is backward engineering to when packs were just a bag with straps. It’s ironic that backpacks started simple and eventually evolved to what marketing has now convinced people is a ‘traditional’ (outdated) design.
I don't think it ever will go away. What started out as a fashion niche and has since grown into a subculture and as men continually become weaker and more feminine, which is partly due to everything being light as a feather and tiny, the appeal of ultralighting will only become even more appealing.
Two trips with this pack for me and I’m happy enough I’m with it. Less back sweat than any pack I’ve ever used and comfortable enough when the load isn’t too heavy. I agree on the brain it’s generous size and can fit a lot. Combined with the side and back pocket and hip belt it’s good amount of storage for various things.
nice review, SPECIAL thanks for putting metric values, I always struggled with that, when I heard ounces, pounds, inches etc. I have Arc haul and since Europe doesn't required bear canisters, I'm absolutely satisfied customer, not looking for a change
I don't have time these days to do extended trips, so for all my overnight or three-day hikes, I don't mind a few more pounds for comfort, and my Osprey packs always deliver on that point!
I’m definitely more traditional. UL packs don’t work well for me. That are simply too flimsy. Add the steep price tag to the lack of durability and it’s a no go. I love my Osprey pack! 🌿
Consider trying Granite Gear, they’re also hybrid packs (2.5lb 60l) that are very comfortable after you adjust your packing for a suspensionless pack with frame sheet vs perimeter frame with suspension.
I also love my Osprey Kestrel, but I think he does have a point about the excessive zippers. There are zipper accesses that I have never used once on my pack.
@@muleb384 True enough. I have to say, all those zippers really appeal to my need for compartmentalization I’m order to keep track of all my gear. “A place for everything and everything in its place” is the only way I can find items and not lose/leave behind.🌿
I love my standard durable osprey pack. It works well for what I use it for. All the nooks and crannies get used on my pack. If you're using stuff sacks or similar for compartmentalization and organization what weight are you really saving over a pocket? It also keeps on working year after year. Ultralight packs quit after a season or two of my use. It seems like a helluva waste for the convenience of a lighter pack.
@@randomweirdo2701 I concur completely. Same goes for trail runners that wear out after 300-500 miles. If doing a desert section of say, the PCT, a lighter weight, cooler hiking shoe can be a good thing but several parts of the first 700 miles, despite it being predominantly desert, have snow, ice, and multiple water crossings. My very first pair of hiking boots were Vasque’s “Gretchen II” and they got over 5K miles on them before they needed to be resoled. I’m a boot girl. 🥾🌿🏔️
A great review as always! I tried to move away from my Osprey and tried a Mariposa 60. On paper the Mariposa is an awesome pack however for me there one huge problem in that without airflow between my back and my pack I really struggle. I just could not get comfortable with the Mariposa. In my experience, when it comes to packs, lighter is not always better, the key is comfort and weight transfer to your hips.
I agree! Comfort and distribution of weight onto your hips makes you go further. It’s kind of like the tortoise and the hare. With the Osprey you might walk a little slower than the others but you’ll walk for longer than the others. It’s the little uncomfortable things that drain you out where as total comfort and support allows you to concentrate on maximum energy efficiency movements
New to this whole backpacking. I wanted to thank you for the videos they really put into perspective what I might want/need. Although it may seem it may be a while before I can afford some this, but hey we all got to start somewhere.
Price doesn't have to be a factor. Plenty of good budget options out there to get you started. (tho yes it still is several hundred dollars to get into it) Then upgrade as you can. Years ago id buy gear like I did tools when I started working. Every week id buy one thing I wanted/needed. For bigger purchases, skip a week or two and put that weeks money towards the big purchase. (tent, pack or sleep system)
Same here, at 25lb and with 5 of those pounds being snowshoes strapped to the very front of the pack it still rides very nicely without pulling back on my shoulders. The fixed brain is the only reason I’m considering getting rid of it in favor of my Granite Gear Crown2 38.
I just thru hiked the AT this year using the Exos Pro. I loved it. The water bottle being accessible from the size was a godsend. I also didnt use the brain and had room to spare. I never used the red compressuon strap tbh. 10/10 converted a few anti osprey folks to
Recently purchased Exos 58 took it for 8 days, 7 night traverse of Isle Royale National Park, mid-August 2023. It did over all very well. However, a part of the frame broke, along the very bottom where it curves around the small of the back. Only issue with the break was that it caused a constant creaking sound with each step. I did overload it, max carry weight is listed as 35lbs. I had 41 without water. 47 pounds with water. Good thing is I bought it from REI and can return it. Will I buy another Exos 58? Quite possibly, but will explore other options comparing each to all that I did like about the Exos 58.
Osprey is ubiquitous in the UK as we don't have as much choice when it comes to backpacking brands. I tend to avoid them but I've recently purchased the Exos 48 (non-pro) as it cuts the nonsense. I'll be testing it next week but I like the look and feel of it so far. The suspension system and the ventilation it provides seems worth a little bit of extra weight.
Please let me know if it kept your back dry. I suspect it doesn't. They are too much form over function - even still you got the best pack they probably made at the time. I've never heard anyone complain about it. You may not have many choices in the UK but you have Atom packs - which may be my next pack. They are the bomb and hand made in the UK. Cheers to all my brothers from other mothers in the UK - peace!
@@nedanother9382 Will do! I've been very tempted by a custom Atom Packs pack actually. I may pick one up after this trip, unless I absolutely love the Exos. Incidentally, I'll be passing right by Atom's HQ on this trip.
@02ditf my friend you have a gear problem..im sure id be divorced if i had that many packs. Its my adhd that kinda forces me to the simpler forms. My pile is getting bigger however
I think Osprey makes great packs for what they are. Are they UL? Generally no. But if you like extra pockets for organization and/or carry heavier weights they make packs suited for you. Also, their warranty is among the best in the industry. I still have an Exos 58 that was my primary winter pack until I recetnly moved up to a Superior Wilderness Designs Long Haul.
I've been an Osprey guy since I put on my first Atmos AG, and I currently own 5 of their packs including two with the Anti-Grav suspension. It's heavier, but SO comfortable. I think the newest Airspeed design has me tempted to check out an Exos though
@@nelsonsanchez8434 @nelsonsanchez8434 I'm not sure I can give a top picks list, but here's what I'm using now: Syncro 10 - short hikes Hikelite 18 - day/group hikes (my guide bag) Manta 28 AG - summer overnights or winter day trips Atmos 50 AG - multi-night trips Arcane Small - commuting The only other bag I have is an REI Flash 18 which I use as a summit/day bag when I'm using the 28 or 50 liter packs overnight
I picked up the Osprey Exos 58 last year to use as my 3-season pack and it is by far the most comfortable pack I own. It weighs just under 2 lbs, much lighter than my older packs.
Damn, I’m an admitted Osprey fanboy and have their packs in most sizes from the 5L waist belt up 🎒… and I just bought the Zpacks Arc Haul for my next through hike. Not that I don’t like Zpacks gear (and I have a bunch of it), but UK import taxes add around 30% to already expensive gear.
The Atmos AG50, before redesign this past year, is similarly laid out but has an amazing harness system that is worth the added weight IMHO. The newer one I think adds zippered pouches more like the AG65, but it's still relatively unencumbered wirh straps and so forth.
Yes, it’s really a great pack, and the suspension/hip belt transfer weight to your hips so completely that you can almost tighten the hip belt and leave the shoulder straps fully loose. The brain doesn’t need 3 straps to attach to the back of the pack and clip-style buckles would be much nicer than ladder buckles, but it’s not like you’ll be removing/installing it multiple times per day. So that’s really a nitpick. The top compression strap really should be on the outside a la roll top pack like mentioned in the video. The hip belt pockets should be attached to the movable parts of the adjustable hip belt so fat guys like me don’t have them way out on our sides, and for the love of god, Osprey, PLEASE figure out to make hip belt pocket zippers that open/close smoothly one-handed! But it really is a great pack, I only use it 1 or 2 times a year but when I do its amazing comfort puts a smile on my face every time.
Trditionnal pack might not be for yyou, but its is still good for 85% of hikers. People who are not into ultralight, will prefere these pack do to resistance, confort and how much you can load them with heavy stuff. the Osprey Aether is good but I still think that the best Osprey pack is the Atmos AG. Best confort and loading weight you can have on the market.
I’ve Owned many backpacks over the years. Lightweight, heavyweight and in between. A few years ago I purchased an Osprey Aether 70 AG for winter backpacking. The Osprey Aether 70 AG has become the only pack I use. The Osprey Aether 70 AG fits so well and carries so well that I don’t notice I’m wearing a backpack regardless of weight.
I've used a Zpacks pack but ended up swapping it for an Osprey Kestrel 38L because all those dyneema fiber packs (Zpacks) are very slippery against clothing. So the Zpacks tend to slide downward putting weight on my shoulders. It doesn't seem to matter how tight I get the waist straps. Despite Osprey being made of heavier material, it's shape conforms to the curvature of my spine and also has lots of rough surfaces that help it stay in place against my back. Because of their unique design features Osprey are my most comfortable packs (I have several, lol) which also allow me to carry heavier weights comfortably. I also have one of the older Osprey Exos packs but still find the Kestrel more comfortable and better at trabsferring weight to my legs. I couldn't carry more than 20lbs in my Zpack before it became uncomfortable. With my Osprey Kestrel 38L I can carry 35lbs comfortably for 16hrs a day no problem.
I went from a Kelty Coyote to a ULA Circuit. While I liked the extra pockets on the Coyote, for organization, I'm okay with the trade-off for the weight savings. And despite the Coyote having decent ventilation, suspension, and adjustability, the Circuit is just more comfortable to me. But the main thing I miss is the brain. I used it for storing maps, my electronics (in a ziplock), and pretty much anything that goes on my head (hat/beanie, bandana, buff, headlamp...). It was just nice knowing where those things were and having easy access to them. It'd be kinda cool if someone like ULA designed a light/waterproof brain that could be purchased separately and attached to their packs.
I have 4 Ospreys, a Talon 36, a Talon 22,, a Daylight 13, and a Sychro 15. Because of back injuries, the most important thing for me is that the loads do not stress my back, and my Ospreys have been perfect at that. And the load feels lighter. Same for my Granite Gear Meridian 46.
I have an Osprey L65. It's pretty lightweight (The "L" stands for lightweight) Osprey has done away with a lot of the zips and pockets on this pack. It has side compression straps in addition to the top compression strap that you don't like. I'm not the most experienced backpacker but I treked through Bhutan with this and loved it.
I am struggling with shouldering the Atmos 65. The hip belts always collapsing behind my back and it's hard to get them back to the sides. Do you have that problem?
@@ulrichschluter9120 Nope. I took it to the Dolomites last year with roughly 20kg load, where I climbed (well, trekked mostly) a few 2500-2800m peaks. It was a breeze, I couldn't believe how easy it carries compared to everything I'd had before.
I've got the atmos 65. It's been with me through some good times but it is certainly heavy. I'd love to try this out but I'm not sure I could justify the expense over what I currently own.
As someone who has owned a frameless Waymark Evlv, I would 100% recommend the Osprey Exos instead. I would really only consider those frameless packs for ultralight setups on thru-hikes. The Osprey is going to be so much more comfortable and easier to use, that you aren't even going to notice the extra weight.
I’ve got a regular EXOS 58L and am a big fan. Super comfortable, so you don’t notice that extra half pound or so that you’re carrying because of how well the suspension holds up.
@@gadblatz4841 And let me reiterate - Even against a similar weighted internally framed Waymark pack, the Osprey is going to be a better option. The Osprey's external frame and cushion hipbelt is a lot more comfortable and better suited to distribute weight and the ventilated back is far better at dissipating heat compared to the cramped, soaked wet back you are going to have sliding against the waterproof XPac on the Waymark all day. Get the Osprey.
as a 6'4, admittedly heavy then I should be backpacker, I am constantly struggling to find gear that 1. fits comfortably, and 2. doesn't add a bunch of weight. I'm glad to see these "in-between" bags. Large enough to carry my gear, light enough to offset the increased weight my larger tent/bag/pad add. And have a suspension system to carry it all comfortably.
I bought an Osprey on sale at REI years ago that's like the green one in this video, and I've always loved it. The straps and suspension are outstanding.
Another close-to-ultralight pack with a removable brain is the Granite Gear Crown 60. And it has zippers on both side pockets and a better top closure. I’ve reviewed it on my channel. It’s also very comfortable. But Osprey’s suspension is the best.
I just recently picked up an Eja Pro 55 - the ladies version of this pack - to replace my Eja 48. I love the pack with the exception of the hip belt pocket (which you mentioned) and how much of a pain it is to remove the brain. Osprey saved a bunch of weight by removing zippers, pockets, and clips on this pack, but sacrificed a bit of convenience. Overall though I'm pretty pleased. One thing I wish Osprey would do is provide clip adapters with their packs so we can turn the brain into a fanny pack.
I have an older, larger and heavier Osprey pack and love it to pieces. It’s super comfortable, even when overloaded for travel rather than backpacking. That internal compression strap is just part of the standard design. I never use it.
Just did a 5 day portage trip with the atmos 50, carried 50 lbs of gear like a breeze. It may not be an ultralight through hiker bag but osprey bags carry heavy weight like no other.
The Arc Haul 60L is really a 40L, and all those attachment points makes them prone for potential failure. It is a very comfortable and functional pack though.
When I was shopping for packs the green vest at REI asked me if I was looking for ultralight or comfort. I chose door 2 as my first pack was exterior frame and canvas. We looked at Gregory and Osprey. Don’t knock it if you haven’t tried it, particularly for weekend warriors.😉
I bought the Osprey Exos 55 Pro a few months ago and love it. I agree with your points except for having an open hip pocket. I do actually like having one zipper and one open. One additional complaint: i wish the hip belt pockets weren’t so far back. This pack is extremely comfortable and fits my gear extremely well (even better than the hyperlite). I compared the hyperlite and really wanted to keep hyperlite but three things that i couldnt get over: 1- for some reason hyperlite straps hurt my shoulder even after trying different size packs, adjusting straps, and adjusting the frames. 2- water bottle access. While i can access my smart water from hyperlite pockets, its much easier with the exos 55 pro. 3- hyperlite=sweaty back. My main concern with the exos pro 55 is durability. Time will tell but im skeptical on the material durability and how small the hip belt clip is. I would have gone for zpacks for a backpack but they are just too expensive as i never see them on sale like i do with the two other packs mentioned above.
@@lt2246 that is a very good point and is one reason that i failed to mention on why I bought it despite wondering about its durability. Update on durability: just took it on another backpacking trip where i had to bushwhack my way to the top of a mountain. I am happy to report that while my rolled up OV foam sleeping pad got torn up by all the branches and such, my backpack sustained no tears or punctures.
I've been using the Osprey Atmos AG for a few years and its a very comfortable pack, but I'm constantly looking a ways to lighten it. Without the lid, its a little over 4lbs. I know I can do better, but haven't because its comfortable. I'll have to check out the Exos to see how it feels!
Interesting you mention the compression strap on the inside as a downside. After a year of use I now specifically like that about it and I'll explain why: With the tradition straps you compress every single thing in your backpack and there's no real way to use it when you carry something that doesn't do well under compression (fragile souvenirs, some foods, etc.). With the Exos Pro I can still compress most things, but pack the stuff I don't want to compress on top of it.
I usually pack ultralight... still rocking an OG Zpacks ArcBlast that is still holding up great. With packraft season upon us, I think this Osprey pack may fit the bill to carry that extra weight around. My wife and daughter are getting into backpacking this year and have been very happy with their Osprey packs thus far. The last time I carried a traditional/heavier pack (an REI 65L) I was descending down to Snowmass lake, just like you were @3:34! BTW, those coolers do look great, I may have to check them out.
I'm a proud user of EXOS 58(not a PRO version) good things - first of all, it's designed for guys, the ladies version is called EJA, so it just fits great - as a result, the suspension is just fabulous indeed - adaptive back length - compartments are really functional suspicious things - gets wet in no time and rain cover is not included - recommended load 11 kilos, when the load is about 15 kilos the backpack starts bouncing on your back - in some time it will start to make these squeaky sounds
I do military style rucking so I am very often forced to take high weight stuff, so the idea of this high quality suspension system is intriguing to me
I have a military back injury. Typically does not bother me backpacking (as the weight compresses my spine) but an uncomfortable pack would. I moved to an Osprey for this reason and don't mind a tad bit more weight. It's also why I hammock camp.
I bought an Osprey Exos Pro 55 and can say it is quite comfortable for me, while weighing half of what my older traditional packs weigh. No regrets. Lightweight daypacks tend to have poor back ventilation so I might just take the brain off for dayhikes. The Zpacks Arc Haul is probably the closest competitor and is lighter but also more expensive (I haven't tried that one).
Went for the Aether 65l - very nice pack though a little on the heavy side. Had the Exos Pro in hands, too, but what bothered me was the compression straps running across the mesh side pockets; you can either compress your pack on the side or you can access the contents (e.g. a water bottle) easily in that case. Mutual exclusive which is a bummer... Ah, and I like the front access to the main compartment on the Aether...
I’ve been using Osprey packs for 6 years now, I have 6 and love them for how comfortable they are and how they handle a load. But last year I bought 2 Granite Gear packs, a Crown2 60 and a Crown2 38, and have to say I like them at least as much. The GG 60l can’t carry as heavy a load comfortably as my 50l Osprey, but keeping it under 30lb it’s amazing. I’ve had the GG 38l up to around 22lb with no comfort issues. They have all the features I want and none I don’t, the fabric is very water resistant, and they even come in colors other than the same old black, blue, green, and red! My pottery clay/rust 60l looks awesome!
I have the previous generation of the Osprey Atmos 65 AG, and have a core weight around 20 lb, and will tip over 30 when carrying food and water. I love the idea of the Exos Pro pack however, I love my side vent and bottom and entry zippers too much and can't justify saving 2lb to give up those features.
When i first started backpacking I got an Osprey womens tempest 20. I still use it but now I wish I waited and got something lighter. I like it but i do find it to be heavy with nothing in it. Next pack i may try one of your suggestions.
Really nice review. After osprey came out with packs over 6 lbs last year, it’s nice to see they offer something in the 2lbs range. I’m always looking for a great pack when a bear canister is required. Now, if they’d just make that pack in Ultra…
Almost every pack made from Ultra seems to have been confirmed to have delaminating issues. Turns out Ultra wasn't sufficiently time-tested before it was put to commercial pack use. Ultra X may be better.
@@maxwellerickson7066 Some delamination has been noticed following thru hikes, yet balanced with the high water resistance, greater protection from abrasion, increased strength and durability and being constructed from recycled materials, I truly enjoy my ultra packs. Besides weighing much less, they hold up to tough conditions in the mountains and desert much better than fabrics used by Osprey. Additionally, they just don’t absorb water in humid and rainy conditions. Oh, and it’s not “every pack.” None of my 5 Ultra packs have shown any delamination whatsoever.
I have a lumina 45 from osprey, 45l, under 2lbs, airframe, ospreys amazing lifetime guarantee! To be honest nobody bought this pack is why osprey doesn't make an ultra light pack anymore... But it's my favorite backpack I've ever owned
@@maxwellerickson7066 Of course it wasn’t. There is so much money being thrown at this stuff right now that these companies are racing to get products made available with it. They are also taking advantage of being able to slightly tweak the composite make-up and being able to market a ‘new’ proprietary material that has little to no feedback on the market. By the time issues arise, lots of products have already been sold.
@@ClimbingEasy It seems like a great pack, especially for those who have trimmed down their gear, requiring less volume. Perhaps better marketing would pay off. When you look at the multitude of cottage vendors now in the market, constantly creating, innovating and improving the UL backpacking scene, the demand is there. People are willing to pay more for quality, innovative UL gear......lots more. Osprey has a built in market for packs that cater to the mainstream, relying on the bigger retailers to market their packs for them. Its no wonder the UL hybrid and transitional packs do not do as well. Very few REI or other retailers have a true wealth of knowledge to pass on to people getting into this hobby. People beginning backpacking often try to use older equipment or rely on the recommendations of salespeople and friends who lack experience with UL gear. Watching channels like this does help, but my guess is many buy their mainstream pack as recommended by salespeople or based on a quick google search before really understanding available options.
I have the Exos 58 and tried the Exos Pro in this video. The Pro has a thinner frame and less rigid suspension. This all resulted in the weight being carried too much in the shoulders. I returned it. If you haven’t tried the latest Exos 48/58, you don’t know what you’re missing! Yes, it weighs more than the Dyneema rucksacks, but it’s easier to carry and you’re less sore at the end of the hike.
I was about to buy this pack until I came across two complaints, acknowledged as design flaws by Osprey. One is that the mesh back is too soft, so collapses against the pack back. The other is that the new adjustment straps make the pack sway too much, even with moderate loads. The previous Exos 58, without hip pockets, is not much heavier than the Pro and has worked well for me. So maybe wait till next year.
I’ve owned the glacier gear vapor trail for many years. No brain on this pack either and the side pockets are only good enough for my two Nalgene water bottles (never adopted the internal bladder method. Up top under the compression straps is just my ground cloth and food stuff sack and my gotetex jacket. Just below is almost anything else I need to get my hands on so access is not a big deal so long as dumping a few things on the ground is not an issue and it normally isn’t in California where peak season for backpacking is dry weather
Yes! Are the designs the best-not always (but I do love the straight jacket compression). Would I rather carry a little (ok alot, I have a crescent) extra weight from the pack so that I don't notice the weight IN the pack? Absolutely.
@@scottlarrabee9527 I'm gonna call a little BS on your logic. Weight is weight regardless of how its carried. Its carried on you legs knees hips and back. The only way to improve that is to take less of it. I started with your exact logic (5.5lb Gregory Cadillac) nearly killed me - but it did carry like a champ....never a rub or red spot. Now my pack, sleep system and tent weigh less than my old pack. Take less do more. But if it takes more to get you out then power to you. Have a great day - eventually the snow will melt(ish) and I'll be less cranky...I just keep stacking up permits
Weight is definitely not weight regardless of how it’s carried. Don’t believe me? Put your gear in a GI duffel bag and carry that on your next backpacking trip. The more weight can be transferred directly to your hips the more comfortable it’ll be to carry, and Osprey (and other traditional) packs do that extremely well. Much of their extra weight is due to the materials and design features needed to do that, though they do have some unnecessary weight (the Flapjacket under the brain as opposed to a roll top w/compression strap, for example.)
@@nedanother9382 I get the notion that weight is weight. However, disregarding a pack solely because of its weight seems as ludicrous as wearing the lightest possible boot, even of it doesn't really fit. Before my osprey, I had a lighter simpler bag, and the hip bruising (even at long day hike loads) and back and shoulder pain I'd get from it meant that I would be reluctant to put it on for days afterwards. I'm curious - have you ever tried your current light weight system in your old Gregory?
I have recently bought the Exos 48 to shed weight from carrying the Atmos 65 which is about 2lbs heavier, but the Atmos blows the Exos out of the water in terms of comfort, its far superior with the thicker padded hip belt and thicker shoulder straps. The Exos straps feel sharp after a while and I am constantly "jostling" the pack to get a comfortable position. My opinion is a bit more weight in the pack is well worth the extra comfort. Besides which the Atmos can be modified to shave off a few ounces.
Osprey packs are awesome. Aether 70 plus with 50lbs of internal plus two ice axes and some rope external it’s still comfortable. UL gear is great for its purpose but it sucks when it’s overloaded.
Good job with this. I've had five Osprey packs over the past eight years or so. The only two I have now are the Kestrel 38 for winter and the 48 for backpacking which handles cans well. Reason being is each of the others had suspended back panels which developed mind-numbing squeaks in the peripheral frame. And I don't overload. The Kestrels are definitely a weight suck, that I try to shave elsewhere, but it's worth it to not deal with squeaking. Maybe it was just luck of the draw, and wouldn't happen again, but I'm not sure I'll take the risk.
Several years ago I went from the heavy Osprey Atmos 65 to an ultralight Hilltops Pack's 45 liter Raven. I sacrificed the comfort of the framed system for the knee saving weight of the frameless pack. Now this is an interesting compromise - possibly. I think I could reduce my gear weight to compensate for the extra pound between this Osprey and my Hilltop's model. As I check gear for an upcoming very long thru-hike, this may be worth the try.
My UL kit is 8lbs base. It's a cheap Columbia bag I got from Walmart. For heavier trips (100 mile+) I use an Osprey. Way more comfortable for heavy weight
Many commenters seem to be confusing the Exos to the Exos Pro...the Osprey pack you have reviewed here. I have tried a Zpack, a Durston Kakwa, and the Gregory Focal as well as the Exos. Th Exos and Focal were the most comfortable, but not light enough. Then I tried the Exos Pro 58 and bought it. After a couple of mods, without adding any weight to the pack, my Exos Pro 58 is a FANTASTIC pack. The modifications were to the compression straps...moving them under the side pockets matching the functionality of the Gregory Focal. The Exos Pro is very light and way more comfortable than the Zpacks or the Kakwa.
I have an older exos I got at a garage sale, my biggest issue is that it's a medium, and I really needed a large, so it doesn't carry as well as it should. Aside from that, I have noticed it doesn't perform well over 30lbs, which is a weight I struggle to get under with my loadout. From what I see of the new pro model, I think it might be perfect.
My favorite backpack - about 25 years old - has this type of mesh suspension, so I'm definitely interested in these Osprey offerings... though I'm inclined to look at the Exos 58 because it solves one of the problems you have with the 55 Pro *both side pockets zip closed (**and I can save $30). I've stated before that I'm a truly traditional backpacker, with over 50 years of experience, and I don't like to spend a lot on gear, though lighter weight gear is becoming more appealing as I get older *and it becomes more mainstream (in design and price). I am not willing to sacrifice comfort for weight, in most cases, which is why I've not made the step to an ultra-light backpack, yet.
I have had the Exos 55 for about 10 years now and love it still. My only complaint is I don't like the original colors that I choose back then and now want to get the new exos pro 55! :)
I recently bought this pack in an attempt to lighten up my gear when I hike. I have a couple Ospreys and an older Kelty that I used in the past, and was looking to shed some weight. I like Osprey packs due to their suspension - i just haven't found a true ultralight that had a suspension to my liking. While I am shooting for much lighter pack and gear weight (I think most I have carried was 35-40lbs on an AT section hike with 5 days of food and water, plus some heavier gear I have since replaced), I did want a pack that (in a pinch) would allow me to carry a heavier load more comfortably. If I hike with my wife or daughter, I am likely going to be carrying most everything, hence the desire to have a pack that can be lightweight, but still carry a semi-heavy load if the situation calls for it. You never know when water is going to be scarce, and require you to haul it down the trail in greater than normal quantities.
I just got the Granite Gear perimeter 35. Weighs a little more than I’d like but the comfort is off the charts. I have an osprey daylite plus. I swear it weighs more than my Perimeter lol
I’m considering trying a Perimeter 50 to possibly replace my BELOVED Osprey Atmos 50 AG, but I love it so much I’d probably keep it and alternate between them LOL (assuming the Perimeter is at least as comfy.)
@@philsmith2444 I did a hard 10 miles in the Buffalo River in Arkansas last weekend for the first trip with it. I forgot I had a loaded pack on even with large amounts of elevation change. What I love is the fact I can customize the fit. That was a HUGE selling point for me. My bigger pack is a Sierra Designs Flex Capicitor 60-75 which comes in almost a full lb lighter than the Perimeter 35. That being said the Perimeter is rated to a 40 lb load in a 35L pack. So with an 11 lbs load it was heaven lol
@@DontHateItsBased I’ve had my Atmos loaded to 35lb and it was rock steady on my back, never shifting and throwing me off balance. It sounds like the Perimeter 50 should be the same if it’s a good fit for my body type. One question I have is how much play there is in the shoulder strap attachment points? Daisy chains don’t seem to be the most secure method of attachment, but I’m guessing all the slop is taken up when you have the pack on and tightened? And I’m interested to see how they hold up long-term. How’s GG’s warranty? What do you think of that top flap? It looks like it won’t hold much as a brain. Is the bottom flap also removable? (It looks like it is in the pics.) Its pocket also looks on the small side, both maybe good for TP/trowel/hand sanitizer, water filter, pack cover, etc. Have you had it out in rain? How water repellent is it?
@@philsmith2444 once everything is packed the straps are def mitigated. That was one of my concerns also. The only straps that seemed excessive are for the waist.
The fact it still has that flap is enough for me to not bother going back to Osprey. It may be a user thing, but I find the brain pocket to be more of an annoyance. Maybe I am doing it wrong, if I only put gloves or my rain jacket in there... But I usually kept a med kit in there and it just flopped around against my head/neck. I'd rather have an oversized belt pocket or low profile side pocket. Next pack I get is either a replacement Hyperlite or the Kakwa 40. I did enjoy my last Osprey's back ventilation though...
The problem with the brain is that if the main compartment isn’t full the brain will flop around, as you found out. Mine tend to stay off until winter, the larger pocket gets hat, gloves, and merino shirt, and the smaller has the first aid kit, handwarmers, and emergency bivy.
Before switching to an REI Flash 55 for the water bottle pockets, I had an Osprey Exos 48 and it was the most comfortable pack I've ever owned Really tempted to pick up the Exos 55 Pro to make a comparison, but maybe next year.
I've worked at REI, and like them as a company a lot, but I would agree the Exos (and pro) is a better pack than the Flash. REI's Flash series is sort of a compromise. They aren't junk, at all, but more of an intro to getting lighter, while still having most features people expect.
Nice review man! My first day hiking pack was a osprey stratos 24. I loved that pack!! The trampelene back is second to none! Until i tried severe ultralight gear then i realized how much i missed their trampelene mesh back panel. Although alot of other osprey packs dont compare to the stratos trampelene back. They seem to have shrunk the seperation overtime on the back mesh? I do like this new exos 55. The brain of these packs are a handy feature. I say that too cause i noticed alot of people who use ultralight roll top packs still find themselves without enough room. So before you know it gear is filled every exterior pocket and some even have gear dangling off the pack somewhere. Seems thats where alot of ultralight packs fail. I want the pack im using to hold all my gear without gear hanging off the pack too much. Only thing i would like to see osprey do is use premium pack materials like Robic nylon, dyneema, X-pack, ultra pack. Maybe even design their own roll top pack but keep this new trampelene style back and frame suspension. Not sure if that crosses over Z-packs patents or not but would be very nice to see. Or i would like to see an update Levity pack made with better materials and offered in more subdued color ways. White is just tough to keep clean. Good stuff man! Hike on!!
im currently using the exos 58 and you are right on it with the air suspension. Sooooo nice and comfy. Its my go to pack. Probably wont even look at other packs for years to come.
I actually love my Osprey bag. I have an ultralight bag as well and I actually find my Osprey bag to be significantly more comfortable and I get more use out of it
I'm a rookie 'packer looking for comfort more than UL. I don't know that I'll ever pack more than 3 days so a bit of extra weight won't matter as much to me. I definitely want lighter gear, but as of right now, weight is never better than 3rd priority for me. And really my priorities are a balance of cost, "good" and weight
Give Granite Gear a try, since the Crown3 60 came out you can often find the previous Crown2 model for 40-50% off the $220 MSRP. 2.5lb, no suspension or wire frame but with a back pad, frame sheet, and hip belt that really transfer weight to your hips very well.
That red strap inside the draw string is to create a "head hollow" anove the shoulder straps so the bag doesnt slap you in the back of the hood. It is more effecyinside the pack like that.
I have the Gregory Focal 58, which I think is "inspired" by the Exos? But the compression strap is over the main compartment, not under like on the Exos. Comes in at 2lbs 11oz. It has a brain. My top requirement on the new pack was back ventilation cuz I'm a sweaty boy ...and this pack checks that box and many, many others.
Exos 58 with an added phone pocket on the shoulder strap is pretty solid. Though the Pro variant has a much lower listed weight and is very intriguing bc of that.
At age 70 with a taste for long hikes (400km, 2 weeks upwards), ultralight is a requirement not an option. I’ve been using an Osprey Atmos 50 (mostly without the brain) for several years and really like the comfort and the antigravity system. However it does weigh 1.850kg and I’ve been wondering about a pack to bring that weight down some. Looks like this could be the one!
As someone who sufferschronic fatigue and pain the suspension and lightweight has me sold, i'd add a zip or velcro to that left pocket so that phone or gopro doesn't fall out if I fall forwards. Other than that it looks good, darker green or brown options would be nice Osprey. Love all your videos and work you put in, thanks for the Nikwax video did all my gear last two days 😊
I am really wanting to get this pack. I have been looking at the Exos for awhile as I am looking to lower some pack weight, and then when Osprey came out with this Pro model, I'm sold! Just need to keep saving a little more, so the Mrs. doesn't complain too much about "more gear"
Thanks for the review! We have a hiking trip on the JMT in August and I am up in the air on this pack. I know a lot of people lean towards the ultralight packs on this trail, but my full load will be around 15-18 pounds, so I am at a crossroads as to which route to go (ultralight or this pack). Comfort is honestly the most important thing to me, and that might sway me towards this pack. Just wanted to know your thoughts on this. Thanks for the video!
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" I'm not a fan of osprey packs; "I just don't believe that backpacks needs all these pockets, zippers and straps", but i really like this model, except , it lacks zippers and straps ! Hard to please.....
Typical woman.
i never understood the whole everything needs to be light as fuck, in the army we carry 80lbs 12+ miles alot... i wish i could just carry 10lbs
@@masterhacker7065 How many War Crimes did you commit?
@@komicsreviewer8505 all of them :)
@@masterhacker7065 like saying "in my days we were working 70hr a week" yeah it aint the days soldier we're going to reality rn
The thing with Osprey packs is even though they're a lot heavier than your average UL pack, they also tend to be way more comfortable. I've found that the frame and suspension and their anti-gravity system help mitigate that extra weight and allows you to carry a lot more stuff with a lot less discomfort, and the straps are really thick and padded and comfortable. If you're the kind of backpacker who likes to hike in luxury and bring a chair, a roomy two-person tent, real food with cookware like skillets etc, then these packs are the way to go. Even if you have a more minimalist setup, the suspension on these packs will make you feel whatever weight you do have less so than other packs would. For instance putting 20 pounds of stuff into an UL backpack and 20 pounds of stuff into an Osprey backpack and trying them both on will usually reveal the Osprey pack to be a lot more comfortable. I also tend to use all the extra bells and whistles. The provided rain cover has kept my stuff dry in heavy thunderstorms before, while the brain is where I store things I might need quickly such as my first aid kit, lighter, and my warm clothes in the wintertime. The hydration pocket for a camelbak is also pretty nice and the mesh on the frame allowing air to cool your sweaty back is a must-have imo. For reference I use the Atmos 65.
I totally agree with you. Im curious how your rain cover was fitted as when I used mine on Atmos65 the rain pooled in the bottom & the small hole didn’t drain. Any tips? Tx
@@DartmoorPaul I just pull it taut over the entire bag so only the straps are exposed and water doesn't get in
I agree with you. While my perfect pack would be the Atmos AG 65 with a couple fewer pockets/straps (and get rid of that divider between the sleeping bag compartment and the main pack!) I find the more comfortable suspension makes the weight worth it. Years ago I went the UL route with a MLD Trail Star, Katabatic Gear Helios 55, etc, but over time I have walked back up to a 15-18 pound baseweight. I tend to go on longer unsupported backpacking trip of 5-8 days. At 2 lbs of food per day that adds 10-16 lbs of additional weight plus water. I never found that a fully laden UL pack would carry well once consumables were factored in. Plus I have found there are creature comforts that I really like that create a bit of a positive feedback loop (heavier stuff requires heavier pack), for example I like a palatial tent - usually taking the 4.2 lb 3P Hilleberg Anjan.
Ultra light
Minimalist
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I AM WITH YOU in being the heavier safer pack
I like these packs
They are world renowned for a reason
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I commented on one of your other videos but this should have been the one to comment on. I own this pack and love it. One signifcant modification, however, makes it much better if not perfect. My inspiration is the Gregory Focal 55. On that pack side compression straps may be routed hidden/inside the stretchy side pockets allowing compression at same time giving full use of stretchy side pockets even under f 7:28 ull compression. Problem with the Exos is the compression straps are permanently on outside of side pockets creating a real use problem when pack is fully compressed. What's more is the bottom side compression side is couple to/attached to the hip belt. My experience with this pack proves that this coupling s unnecessay and by decoupliing the compression strap from the hip belt results in more comfort and better function of the hip belt on my hips and then with a couple small 1/4" slits in ripstop fabric, a few hidden stitches plus super strong waterproof fabric glue, I have rerouted compression straps to under/hidden/inside stretchy side pockets. I also detached the upper compression and moved it. Now I have full use of stretchy side pockets and large front stretchy pocket even while the pack is under full ccompression. Water bottles and other items go in and out without a struggle whatsoever. Or even run longer items inside of side pockets yet still under comoression with full functional use of stretchy side pocket such as a water bottle beig put in or taken out without messin with the compression. The modification looks totally factory like it was designed that way. Side hipbelt pockets also are more functional being uncoupled from compression straps because when the belt is niw cinched down it does not stress pockets back in a weird way. This ended up being more comfortable as well. I wish there was a way to send pics. Anyway my mods added no weight and made the pack hugely more functional and just a little more comfortable.
I'd love to see that fix. The details and how it works in use. Do you think you can upload some pics somehwere?
Should be easy to make a low quality mobilephone video of 1 min and uploard it here on YT and send the link, no? Thanks :-)
The reason the Exos 55 seems bigger than the Arc Haul 60, is that Z packs includes the capacity of all the pockets in their number.
Most manufacturers list only “covered” compartments in their volume. Open pockets are unmeasured additional volume, since you can put bigger items that stick out in them.
Exos has 55L in the main compartment + brain. Stretch pocket and side pockets are unmeasured additional storage. Z Packs arc haul 60L is 47L body, 8L stretch pocket, 2.5 each side pocket.
You’re mostly right but the 55L osprey includes the 9L brain but not the other pockets. Seems like Z packs are at it imo
I've had a Gen.2 EXOS 58 for 6 years and love it. Most comfortable UL pack I have ever owned.
I have an Osprey Talon 11L daypack and I fell in love with it the first time I used it. My partner and I hiked a trail that has a portion that requires rappelling down some pretty steep inclines on ropes and then 6km on very sharp rocks to a secluded cove. A well balanced pack is necessary for sure footing as if you wreck an ankle you'd need to call the coast guard in before the tide traps you. (Bay of Fundy, highest tides in the world) and on the way back as soon as we climbed back up the ropes we were hit with a severe thunderstorm (wasn't in the forecast). Deafening thunderclaps and heavy rains and the inside of the pack stayed dry (with my Nikon DSLR in there too). had some dry clothes in my dry bag and wasn't expecting wet weather at all so learned a lesson for next time.
Also I realized it was missing a piece for the stow on the go trekking pole feature and just emailing Osprey lastnight I got a reply in less then an hour that they were preparing to ship me out the part soon (my first time using a warranty like this)
I would love to get a Stratos 36 or 44 as an overnight or weekender. I only dabble in UL so the pro versions are a bit too rich for my blood but I would certainly try Osprey again.
My only complaint is that the cool Osprey logo wore off so fast. They should really embroider them or something.
The Talon series is one of the most versatile day packs one can own. Perfect blend of comfort, features, function, weight, etc.
I got hooked on Osprey years ago with my Xenith. Cavernous for long trips, comfortable, easy access. Sold it to a kid hiking the AT. I just bought a Atmos 65. The waist belt is tighter than I like so I'm looking to swap it out; but I got it at such a good price, I had to buy it. Your pack looks good so thanks for sharing.
An osprey atmos 65 was my first pack 5 years ago, and it’s the same one I use today. There is a lot of extra weight and unnecessary organization, but I love the pack. It’s incredibly comfortable and adjustable and there is no wear. I have no desire nor need to purchase a new backpack, so it saves me a lot. I don’t understand how you could actually hate the pack, even with every opinion you listed, but to each their own. I will gladly continue to enjoy my time outdoors because of my atmos.
I'm so mad at myself for not buying one 6 years ago. They used to have the green/orange pack everywhere. I went with an Aether, and the lactic acid build up I get in my upper glutes is so annoying I've been rocking it with just shoulder straps for half the time. I'm average build as well
Good video, you left out the mighty guarantee. I send my aether 65 in at the 10 years old mark for repairs. In addition to the repairs, they put a new belt and shoulder harness on the pack. Pretty much a new pack.
I love my Osprey pack. It took me thousands of miles across Europe, probably hundreds by foot. It was a great investment and quite durable. I am an athletic, stout guy and don't mind that it's not an ultralight backpack. I wanted size and features and quality construction and it delivered. It's ten years old and just as good as the day I bought it. Osprey would be my first choice for my next pack should I ever need one.
I just really loved the way it took an enormously heavy load and spread it across my body in such a way that I didn't really notice the weight.
Yet spend many years with Osprey not trying any new packs - there may be even better ones out there
Nice! I bought this exact backpack mere two weeks ago, and I love it just the same. The construction is comfortable, yet stable, and I experienced none of the weight shifting I dealt with before, when using older and cheaper backpack.
I have a Ren65 that runs just under 5lb. Packed I am hauling right a 40lbs. I use it as a day pack and come in at around 15lbs without my sleep system and food. Clearly, I am not a UL hiker! I'm a 5'2", over 50, overweight, female hiker. Finding anything that actually fits is a challenge. Osprey's adjustable everything works well in getting the pack fitted and comfortable.
I have a 5 year old Osprey Atmos 50 and I love it. The suspension and the mesh is what makes it for me. Also the bladder compartment with the little strap and clip is well thought out. It does weigh in at 4.5 lbs but it sure is comfortable and functions well enough that I don't feel the need to get anything else. Cheers
I have one of the previous models of this pack and can definitely recommend it. There are somethings that I like better with the new version (hip belt pockets), but there are some things I like on the older model (more user friendly buckles, easy to remove brain, that kind of thing)... just preference but I'd still recommend it. Only wish it was water resistant.
I have a Hyperlite that I love, but it leaves my back wet from sweat. I recently bought the Exos 58 for the fact that it stays off of my back during warmer backpacking trips. I had a hard time finding one that really felt like it “belongs” on me, and am still not quite happy with the fit, but my back feels so much happier. The pack fits everything I need and is completely comparable to the Hyperlite. And yes, I was nodding when you were talking about the compression strap, which is marvelous on the Hyperlite. The Exos has it’s own methods of compression, but nothing like the Hyperlite.
I’ve been waiting for this UL craze to come full circle on backpacks. I figure it’s only a matter of time before people realize that ‘traditional’ packs were designed for backpacking and will offer the best experience. Stripping down frames and necessary load bearing features is backward engineering to when packs were just a bag with straps.
It’s ironic that backpacks started simple and eventually evolved to what marketing has now convinced people is a ‘traditional’ (outdated) design.
There are places for UL, such as summit packs, daypacks... for r\OneBag I agree you need to look into comfort.
I don't think it ever will go away. What started out as a fashion niche and has since grown into a subculture and as men continually become weaker and more feminine, which is partly due to everything being light as a feather and tiny, the appeal of ultralighting will only become even more appealing.
Two trips with this pack for me and I’m happy enough I’m with it. Less back sweat than any pack I’ve ever used and comfortable enough when the load isn’t too heavy. I agree on the brain it’s generous size and can fit a lot. Combined with the side and back pocket and hip belt it’s good amount of storage for various things.
nice review, SPECIAL thanks for putting metric values, I always struggled with that, when I heard ounces, pounds, inches etc. I have Arc haul and since Europe doesn't required bear canisters, I'm absolutely satisfied customer, not looking for a change
I don't have time these days to do extended trips, so for all my overnight or three-day hikes, I don't mind a few more pounds for comfort, and my Osprey packs always deliver on that point!
I’m definitely more traditional. UL packs don’t work well for me. That are simply too flimsy. Add the steep price tag to the lack of durability and it’s a no go.
I love my Osprey pack! 🌿
Consider trying Granite Gear, they’re also hybrid packs (2.5lb 60l) that are very comfortable after you adjust your packing for a suspensionless pack with frame sheet vs perimeter frame with suspension.
I also love my Osprey Kestrel, but I think he does have a point about the excessive zippers. There are zipper accesses that I have never used once on my pack.
@@muleb384 True enough. I have to say, all those zippers really appeal to my need for compartmentalization I’m order to keep track of all my gear. “A place for everything and everything in its place” is the only way I can find items and not lose/leave behind.🌿
I love my standard durable osprey pack. It works well for what I use it for. All the nooks and crannies get used on my pack. If you're using stuff sacks or similar for compartmentalization and organization what weight are you really saving over a pocket? It also keeps on working year after year. Ultralight packs quit after a season or two of my use. It seems like a helluva waste for the convenience of a lighter pack.
@@randomweirdo2701 I concur completely. Same goes for trail runners that wear out after 300-500 miles.
If doing a desert section of say, the PCT, a lighter weight, cooler hiking shoe can be a good thing but several parts of the first 700 miles, despite it being predominantly desert, have snow, ice, and multiple water crossings.
My very first pair of hiking boots were Vasque’s “Gretchen II” and they got over 5K miles on them before they needed to be resoled. I’m a boot girl. 🥾🌿🏔️
A great review as always!
I tried to move away from my Osprey and tried a Mariposa 60. On paper the Mariposa is an awesome pack however for me there one huge problem in that without airflow between my back and my pack I really struggle. I just could not get comfortable with the Mariposa. In my experience, when it comes to packs, lighter is not always better, the key is comfort and weight transfer to your hips.
I agree! Comfort and distribution of weight onto your hips makes you go further. It’s kind of like the tortoise and the hare. With the Osprey you might walk a little slower than the others but you’ll walk for longer than the others. It’s the little uncomfortable things that drain you out where as total comfort and support allows you to concentrate on maximum energy efficiency movements
New to this whole backpacking. I wanted to thank you for the videos they really put into perspective what I might want/need. Although it may seem it may be a while before I can afford some this, but hey we all got to start somewhere.
Price doesn't have to be a factor. Plenty of good budget options out there to get you started. (tho yes it still is several hundred dollars to get into it) Then upgrade as you can. Years ago id buy gear like I did tools when I started working. Every week id buy one thing I wanted/needed. For bigger purchases, skip a week or two and put that weeks money towards the big purchase. (tent, pack or sleep system)
just buy used. Plenty of barely used backpacks available.
I love my Kestrel 38.
It's very comfortable, fits me very well, and handles the small amount of gear I have wonderfully.
Same here, at 25lb and with 5 of those pounds being snowshoes strapped to the very front of the pack it still rides very nicely without pulling back on my shoulders. The fixed brain is the only reason I’m considering getting rid of it in favor of my Granite Gear Crown2 38.
I just thru hiked the AT this year using the Exos Pro. I loved it. The water bottle being accessible from the size was a godsend. I also didnt use the brain and had room to spare. I never used the red compressuon strap tbh.
10/10 converted a few anti osprey folks to
Recently purchased Exos 58 took it for 8 days, 7 night traverse of Isle Royale National Park, mid-August 2023.
It did over all very well.
However, a part of the frame broke, along the very bottom where it curves around the small of the back.
Only issue with the break was that it caused a constant creaking sound with each step.
I did overload it, max carry weight is listed as 35lbs. I had 41 without water. 47 pounds with water.
Good thing is I bought it from REI and can return it.
Will I buy another Exos 58? Quite possibly, but will explore other options comparing each to all that I did like about the Exos 58.
Osprey Aether ag 60L is what you're looking for my friend
Osprey is ubiquitous in the UK as we don't have as much choice when it comes to backpacking brands. I tend to avoid them but I've recently purchased the Exos 48 (non-pro) as it cuts the nonsense. I'll be testing it next week but I like the look and feel of it so far. The suspension system and the ventilation it provides seems worth a little bit of extra weight.
Please let me know if it kept your back dry. I suspect it doesn't. They are too much form over function - even still you got the best pack they probably made at the time. I've never heard anyone complain about it.
You may not have many choices in the UK but you have Atom packs - which may be my next pack. They are the bomb and hand made in the UK.
Cheers to all my brothers from other mothers in the UK - peace!
@@nedanother9382 Will do! I've been very tempted by a custom Atom Packs pack actually. I may pick one up after this trip, unless I absolutely love the Exos. Incidentally, I'll be passing right by Atom's HQ on this trip.
@02ditf my friend you have a gear problem..im sure id be divorced if i had that many packs.
Its my adhd that kinda forces me to the simpler forms.
My pile is getting bigger however
I think Osprey makes great packs for what they are. Are they UL? Generally no. But if you like extra pockets for organization and/or carry heavier weights they make packs suited for you. Also, their warranty is among the best in the industry. I still have an Exos 58 that was my primary winter pack until I recetnly moved up to a Superior Wilderness Designs Long Haul.
I've been an Osprey guy since I put on my first Atmos AG, and I currently own 5 of their packs including two with the Anti-Grav suspension. It's heavier, but SO comfortable.
I think the newest Airspeed design has me tempted to check out an Exos though
Top picks?
@@nelsonsanchez8434 @nelsonsanchez8434 I'm not sure I can give a top picks list, but here's what I'm using now:
Syncro 10 - short hikes
Hikelite 18 - day/group hikes (my guide bag)
Manta 28 AG - summer overnights or winter day trips
Atmos 50 AG - multi-night trips
Arcane Small - commuting
The only other bag I have is an REI Flash 18 which I use as a summit/day bag when I'm using the 28 or 50 liter packs overnight
The airspeed design is superior!
If you were going to be doing some hot and humid mountain climbing for 4 days. Atmos 50 or exos for reduced weight?
I picked up the Osprey Exos 58 last year to use as my 3-season pack and it is by far the most comfortable pack I own. It weighs just under 2 lbs, much lighter than my older packs.
Just under 3 lbs
39 ounces on my 2018 version without the lid@@maxplaylist think they made it heavier on newer ones
Damn, I’m an admitted Osprey fanboy and have their packs in most sizes from the 5L waist belt up 🎒… and I just bought the Zpacks Arc Haul for my next through hike.
Not that I don’t like Zpacks gear (and I have a bunch of it), but UK import taxes add around 30% to already expensive gear.
The Atmos AG50, before redesign this past year, is similarly laid out but has an amazing harness system that is worth the added weight IMHO. The newer one I think adds zippered pouches more like the AG65, but it's still relatively unencumbered wirh straps and so forth.
Yes, it’s really a great pack, and the suspension/hip belt transfer weight to your hips so completely that you can almost tighten the hip belt and leave the shoulder straps fully loose.
The brain doesn’t need 3 straps to attach to the back of the pack and clip-style buckles would be much nicer than ladder buckles, but it’s not like you’ll be removing/installing it multiple times per day. So that’s really a nitpick.
The top compression strap really should be on the outside a la roll top pack like mentioned in the video.
The hip belt pockets should be attached to the movable parts of the adjustable hip belt so fat guys like me don’t have them way out on our sides, and for the love of god, Osprey, PLEASE figure out to make hip belt pocket zippers that open/close smoothly one-handed!
But it really is a great pack, I only use it 1 or 2 times a year but when I do its amazing comfort puts a smile on my face every time.
I just bought this today at my local outdoor store, then I see that you reviewed it positively. Perfect.
Trditionnal pack might not be for yyou, but its is still good for 85% of hikers. People who are not into ultralight, will prefere these pack do to resistance, confort and how much you can load them with heavy stuff. the Osprey Aether is good but I still think that the best Osprey pack is the Atmos AG. Best confort and loading weight you can have on the market.
I’ve Owned many backpacks over the years. Lightweight, heavyweight and in between. A few years ago I purchased an Osprey Aether 70 AG for winter backpacking. The Osprey Aether 70 AG has become the only pack I use. The Osprey Aether 70 AG fits so well and carries so well that I don’t notice I’m wearing a backpack regardless of weight.
I've used a Zpacks pack but ended up swapping it for an Osprey Kestrel 38L because all those dyneema fiber packs (Zpacks) are very slippery against clothing. So the Zpacks tend to slide downward putting weight on my shoulders. It doesn't seem to matter how tight I get the waist straps. Despite Osprey being made of heavier material, it's shape conforms to the curvature of my spine and also has lots of rough surfaces that help it stay in place against my back. Because of their unique design features Osprey are my most comfortable packs (I have several, lol) which also allow me to carry heavier weights comfortably. I also have one of the older Osprey Exos packs but still find the Kestrel more comfortable and better at trabsferring weight to my legs. I couldn't carry more than 20lbs in my Zpack before it became uncomfortable. With my Osprey Kestrel 38L I can carry 35lbs comfortably for 16hrs a day no problem.
I went from a Kelty Coyote to a ULA Circuit. While I liked the extra pockets on the Coyote, for organization, I'm okay with the trade-off for the weight savings. And despite the Coyote having decent ventilation, suspension, and adjustability, the Circuit is just more comfortable to me. But the main thing I miss is the brain. I used it for storing maps, my electronics (in a ziplock), and pretty much anything that goes on my head (hat/beanie, bandana, buff, headlamp...). It was just nice knowing where those things were and having easy access to them. It'd be kinda cool if someone like ULA designed a light/waterproof brain that could be purchased separately and attached to their packs.
Solution… waist pack! Haven’t looked back.
Exclude your raincoat and beanie.
I have 4 Ospreys, a Talon 36, a Talon 22,, a Daylight 13, and a Sychro 15. Because of back injuries, the most important thing for me is that the loads do not stress my back, and my Ospreys have been perfect at that. And the load feels lighter. Same for my Granite Gear Meridian 46.
I have an Osprey L65. It's pretty lightweight (The "L" stands for lightweight) Osprey has done away with a lot of the zips and pockets on this pack. It has side compression straps in addition to the top compression strap that you don't like. I'm not the most experienced backpacker but I treked through Bhutan with this and loved it.
Buying Atmos 65 was one of the best decisions I have ever made. I've also got the Manta 32 for day hikies and long city trips - an absolute joy.
I am struggling with shouldering the Atmos 65. The hip belts always collapsing behind my back and it's hard to get them back to the sides. Do you have that problem?
@@ulrichschluter9120 Nope. I took it to the Dolomites last year with roughly 20kg load, where I climbed (well, trekked mostly) a few 2500-2800m peaks. It was a breeze, I couldn't believe how easy it carries compared to everything I'd had before.
@@ulrichschluter9120 Also, I don't quite understand what you mean by "hip belts collapsing behind your back".
I've got the atmos 65. It's been with me through some good times but it is certainly heavy. I'd love to try this out but I'm not sure I could justify the expense over what I currently own.
They came up with the pack brain around the Korean war. It was an additional bag that attached to the outer straps and could help keep a load down.
Very excited to see this, will definitely consider it, we have been afraid to give up traditional pack suspension...
Sounds gr8, ty
So glad you reviewed this pack I have been looking at waymark but when this came out it peaked my interest
As someone who has owned a frameless Waymark Evlv, I would 100% recommend the Osprey Exos instead. I would really only consider those frameless packs for ultralight setups on thru-hikes. The Osprey is going to be so much more comfortable and easier to use, that you aren't even going to notice the extra weight.
I’ve got a regular EXOS 58L and am a big fan. Super comfortable, so you don’t notice that extra half pound or so that you’re carrying because of how well the suspension holds up.
@@BigDawgCAM You know that Waymark has several internal frame offerings right?
@@gadblatz4841 And let me reiterate - Even against a similar weighted internally framed Waymark pack, the Osprey is going to be a better option.
The Osprey's external frame and cushion hipbelt is a lot more comfortable and better suited to distribute weight and the ventilated back is far better at dissipating heat compared to the cramped, soaked wet back you are going to have sliding against the waterproof XPac on the Waymark all day.
Get the Osprey.
as a 6'4, admittedly heavy then I should be backpacker, I am constantly struggling to find gear that 1. fits comfortably, and 2. doesn't add a bunch of weight. I'm glad to see these "in-between" bags. Large enough to carry my gear, light enough to offset the increased weight my larger tent/bag/pad add. And have a suspension system to carry it all comfortably.
I bought an Osprey on sale at REI years ago that's like the green one in this video, and I've always loved it. The straps and suspension are outstanding.
Another close-to-ultralight pack with a removable brain is the Granite Gear Crown 60. And it has zippers on both side pockets and a better top closure. I’ve reviewed it on my channel. It’s also very comfortable. But Osprey’s suspension is the best.
I just recently picked up an Eja Pro 55 - the ladies version of this pack - to replace my Eja 48. I love the pack with the exception of the hip belt pocket (which you mentioned) and how much of a pain it is to remove the brain. Osprey saved a bunch of weight by removing zippers, pockets, and clips on this pack, but sacrificed a bit of convenience. Overall though I'm pretty pleased. One thing I wish Osprey would do is provide clip adapters with their packs so we can turn the brain into a fanny pack.
I have an older, larger and heavier Osprey pack and love it to pieces. It’s super comfortable, even when overloaded for travel rather than backpacking. That internal compression strap is just part of the standard design. I never use it.
I always recommend the exos for new backpackers because they can carry a lot of weight and are super comfortable.
Just did a 5 day portage trip with the atmos 50, carried 50 lbs of gear like a breeze. It may not be an ultralight through hiker bag but osprey bags carry heavy weight like no other.
The Arc Haul 60L is really a 40L, and all those attachment points makes them prone for potential failure. It is a very comfortable and functional pack though.
When I was shopping for packs the green vest at REI asked me if I was looking for ultralight or comfort. I chose door 2 as my first pack was exterior frame and canvas. We looked at Gregory and Osprey. Don’t knock it if you haven’t tried it, particularly for weekend warriors.😉
I bought the Osprey Exos 55 Pro a few months ago and love it. I agree with your points except for having an open hip pocket. I do actually like having one zipper and one open.
One additional complaint: i wish the hip belt pockets weren’t so far back.
This pack is extremely comfortable and fits my gear extremely well (even better than the hyperlite).
I compared the hyperlite and really wanted to keep hyperlite but three things that i couldnt get over:
1- for some reason hyperlite straps hurt my shoulder even after trying different size packs, adjusting straps, and adjusting the frames.
2- water bottle access. While i can access my smart water from hyperlite pockets, its much easier with the exos 55 pro.
3- hyperlite=sweaty back.
My main concern with the exos pro 55 is durability. Time will tell but im skeptical on the material durability and how small the hip belt clip is.
I would have gone for zpacks for a backpack but they are just too expensive as i never see them on sale like i do with the two other packs mentioned above.
Regarding durability- - Osprey does have the lifetime guarantee which is a feature not mentioned. Neither Z-pack nor Hyperlite have such a guarantee.
@@lt2246 that is a very good point and is one reason that i failed to mention on why I bought it despite wondering about its durability.
Update on durability: just took it on another backpacking trip where i had to bushwhack my way to the top of a mountain. I am happy to report that while my rolled up OV foam sleeping pad got torn up by all the branches and such, my backpack sustained no tears or punctures.
I've been using the Osprey Atmos AG for a few years and its a very comfortable pack, but I'm constantly looking a ways to lighten it. Without the lid, its a little over 4lbs. I know I can do better, but haven't because its comfortable. I'll have to check out the Exos to see how it feels!
Interesting you mention the compression strap on the inside as a downside. After a year of use I now specifically like that about it and I'll explain why: With the tradition straps you compress every single thing in your backpack and there's no real way to use it when you carry something that doesn't do well under compression (fragile souvenirs, some foods, etc.). With the Exos Pro I can still compress most things, but pack the stuff I don't want to compress on top of it.
I usually pack ultralight... still rocking an OG Zpacks ArcBlast that is still holding up great. With packraft season upon us, I think this Osprey pack may fit the bill to carry that extra weight around. My wife and daughter are getting into backpacking this year and have been very happy with their Osprey packs thus far. The last time I carried a traditional/heavier pack (an REI 65L) I was descending down to Snowmass lake, just like you were @3:34! BTW, those coolers do look great, I may have to check them out.
I recently purchased a kestrel 48 for an approaching Mount Adams summit attempt. So far so good comfortable pack.
I'm a proud user of EXOS 58(not a PRO version)
good things
- first of all, it's designed for guys, the ladies version is called EJA, so it just fits great
- as a result, the suspension is just fabulous indeed
- adaptive back length
- compartments are really functional
suspicious things
- gets wet in no time and rain cover is not included
- recommended load 11 kilos, when the load is about 15 kilos the backpack starts bouncing on your back
- in some time it will start to make these squeaky sounds
I do military style rucking so I am very often forced to take high weight stuff, so the idea of this high quality suspension system is intriguing to me
I have a military back injury. Typically does not bother me backpacking (as the weight compresses my spine) but an uncomfortable pack would. I moved to an Osprey for this reason and don't mind a tad bit more weight. It's also why I hammock camp.
I bought an Osprey Exos Pro 55 and can say it is quite comfortable for me, while weighing half of what my older traditional packs weigh. No regrets. Lightweight daypacks tend to have poor back ventilation so I might just take the brain off for dayhikes. The Zpacks Arc Haul is probably the closest competitor and is lighter but also more expensive (I haven't tried that one).
Went for the Aether 65l - very nice pack though a little on the heavy side. Had the Exos Pro in hands, too, but what bothered me was the compression straps running across the mesh side pockets; you can either compress your pack on the side or you can access the contents (e.g. a water bottle) easily in that case. Mutual exclusive which is a bummer...
Ah, and I like the front access to the main compartment on the Aether...
I’ve been using Osprey packs for 6 years now, I have 6 and love them for how comfortable they are and how they handle a load. But last year I bought 2 Granite Gear packs, a Crown2 60 and a Crown2 38, and have to say I like them at least as much. The GG 60l can’t carry as heavy a load comfortably as my 50l Osprey, but keeping it under 30lb it’s amazing. I’ve had the GG 38l up to around 22lb with no comfort issues. They have all the features I want and none I don’t, the fabric is very water resistant, and they even come in colors other than the same old black, blue, green, and red! My pottery clay/rust 60l looks awesome!
I have 3 Osprey packs (22L, 65L, and 80L) and a 3L Osprey hydration bladder and I couldn't be happier with all of them.
I have the Atmos AG 50L. The AG system is pretty amazing at weight distribution.
I have the previous generation of the Osprey Atmos 65 AG, and have a core weight around 20 lb, and will tip over 30 when carrying food and water. I love the idea of the Exos Pro pack however, I love my side vent and bottom and entry zippers too much and can't justify saving 2lb to give up those features.
Exactly, It’s always about preferences, but I love the extra padding for whatewer I need and can’t fit inside.
When i first started backpacking I got an Osprey womens tempest 20. I still use it but now I wish I waited and got something lighter. I like it but i do find it to be heavy with nothing in it. Next pack i may try one of your suggestions.
Really nice review. After osprey came out with packs over 6 lbs last year, it’s nice to see they offer something in the 2lbs range. I’m always looking for a great pack when a bear canister is required. Now, if they’d just make that pack in Ultra…
Almost every pack made from Ultra seems to have been confirmed to have delaminating issues. Turns out Ultra wasn't sufficiently time-tested before it was put to commercial pack use. Ultra X may be better.
@@maxwellerickson7066 Some delamination has been noticed following thru hikes, yet balanced with the high water resistance, greater protection from abrasion, increased strength and durability and being constructed from recycled materials, I truly enjoy my ultra packs. Besides weighing much less, they hold up to tough conditions in the mountains and desert much better than fabrics used by Osprey. Additionally, they just don’t absorb water in humid and rainy conditions. Oh, and it’s not “every pack.” None of my 5 Ultra packs have shown any delamination whatsoever.
I have a lumina 45 from osprey, 45l, under 2lbs, airframe, ospreys amazing lifetime guarantee!
To be honest nobody bought this pack is why osprey doesn't make an ultra light pack anymore... But it's my favorite backpack I've ever owned
@@maxwellerickson7066 Of course it wasn’t. There is so much money being thrown at this stuff right now that these companies are racing to get products made available with it.
They are also taking advantage of being able to slightly tweak the composite make-up and being able to market a ‘new’ proprietary material that has little to no feedback on the market. By the time issues arise, lots of products have already been sold.
@@ClimbingEasy It seems like a great pack, especially for those who have trimmed down their gear, requiring less volume. Perhaps better marketing would pay off. When you look at the multitude of cottage vendors now in the market, constantly creating, innovating and improving the UL backpacking scene, the demand is there. People are willing to pay more for quality, innovative UL gear......lots more. Osprey has a built in market for packs that cater to the mainstream, relying on the bigger retailers to market their packs for them. Its no wonder the UL hybrid and transitional packs do not do as well. Very few REI or other retailers have a true wealth of knowledge to pass on to people getting into this hobby. People beginning backpacking often try to use older equipment or rely on the recommendations of salespeople and friends who lack experience with UL gear. Watching channels like this does help, but my guess is many buy their mainstream pack as recommended by salespeople or based on a quick google search before really understanding available options.
I have the Exos 58 and tried the Exos Pro in this video. The Pro has a thinner frame and less rigid suspension. This all resulted in the weight being carried too much in the shoulders. I returned it.
If you haven’t tried the latest Exos 48/58, you don’t know what you’re missing! Yes, it weighs more than the Dyneema rucksacks, but it’s easier to carry and you’re less sore at the end of the hike.
I was about to buy this pack until I came across two complaints, acknowledged as design flaws by Osprey. One is that the mesh back is too soft, so collapses against the pack back. The other is that the new adjustment straps make the pack sway too much, even with moderate loads. The previous Exos 58, without hip pockets, is not much heavier than the Pro and has worked well for me. So maybe wait till next year.
I’ve owned the glacier gear vapor trail for many years. No brain on this pack either and the side pockets are only good enough for my two Nalgene water bottles (never adopted the internal bladder method. Up top under the compression straps is just my ground cloth and food stuff sack and my gotetex jacket. Just below is almost anything else I need to get my hands on so access is not a big deal so long as dumping a few things on the ground is not an issue and it normally isn’t in California where peak season for backpacking is dry weather
I've had the Aura since the beginning and yeah it's almost 4 pounds empty but I have yet to find an ultra light pack that is comfortable on me.
This is the other side of the coin for me. I have yet to find a more comfortable pack they my Osprey!
Yes! Are the designs the best-not always (but I do love the straight jacket compression). Would I rather carry a little (ok alot, I have a crescent) extra weight from the pack so that I don't notice the weight IN the pack? Absolutely.
@@scottlarrabee9527 I'm gonna call a little BS on your logic. Weight is weight regardless of how its carried. Its carried on you legs knees hips and back. The only way to improve that is to take less of it. I started with your exact logic (5.5lb Gregory Cadillac) nearly killed me - but it did carry like a champ....never a rub or red spot.
Now my pack, sleep system and tent weigh less than my old pack. Take less do more.
But if it takes more to get you out then power to you.
Have a great day - eventually the snow will melt(ish) and I'll be less cranky...I just keep stacking up permits
Weight is definitely not weight regardless of how it’s carried. Don’t believe me? Put your gear in a GI duffel bag and carry that on your next backpacking trip. The more weight can be transferred directly to your hips the more comfortable it’ll be to carry, and Osprey (and other traditional) packs do that extremely well. Much of their extra weight is due to the materials and design features needed to do that, though they do have some unnecessary weight (the Flapjacket under the brain as opposed to a roll top w/compression strap, for example.)
@@nedanother9382 I get the notion that weight is weight. However, disregarding a pack solely because of its weight seems as ludicrous as wearing the lightest possible boot, even of it doesn't really fit.
Before my osprey, I had a lighter simpler bag, and the hip bruising (even at long day hike loads) and back and shoulder pain I'd get from it meant that I would be reluctant to put it on for days afterwards.
I'm curious - have you ever tried your current light weight system in your old Gregory?
I have recently bought the Exos 48 to shed weight from carrying the Atmos 65 which is about 2lbs heavier, but the Atmos blows the Exos out of the water in terms of comfort, its far superior with the thicker padded hip belt and thicker shoulder straps. The Exos straps feel sharp after a while and I am constantly "jostling" the pack to get a comfortable position. My opinion is a bit more weight in the pack is well worth the extra comfort. Besides which the Atmos can be modified to shave off a few ounces.
Osprey packs are awesome. Aether 70 plus with 50lbs of internal plus two ice axes and some rope external it’s still comfortable. UL gear is great for its purpose but it sucks when it’s overloaded.
Good job with this. I've had five Osprey packs over the past eight years or so. The only two I have now are the Kestrel 38 for winter and the 48 for backpacking which handles cans well. Reason being is each of the others had suspended back panels which developed mind-numbing squeaks in the peripheral frame. And I don't overload. The Kestrels are definitely a weight suck, that I try to shave elsewhere, but it's worth it to not deal with squeaking. Maybe it was just luck of the draw, and wouldn't happen again, but I'm not sure I'll take the risk.
Several years ago I went from the heavy Osprey Atmos 65 to an ultralight Hilltops Pack's 45 liter Raven. I sacrificed the comfort of the framed system for the knee saving weight of the frameless pack. Now this is an interesting compromise - possibly. I think I could reduce my gear weight to compensate for the extra pound between this Osprey and my Hilltop's model. As I check gear for an upcoming very long thru-hike, this may be worth the try.
I've never seen a hiker use an umbrella while crossing a stream before.
My UL kit is 8lbs base. It's a cheap Columbia bag I got from Walmart. For heavier trips (100 mile+) I use an Osprey. Way more comfortable for heavy weight
Many commenters seem to be confusing the Exos to the Exos Pro...the Osprey pack you have reviewed here. I have tried a Zpack, a Durston Kakwa, and the Gregory Focal as well as the Exos. Th Exos and Focal were the most comfortable, but not light enough. Then I tried the Exos Pro 58 and bought it. After a couple of mods, without adding any weight to the pack, my Exos Pro 58 is a FANTASTIC pack. The modifications were to the compression straps...moving them under the side pockets matching the functionality of the Gregory Focal. The Exos Pro is very light and way more comfortable than the Zpacks or the Kakwa.
I found the Focal not as well built or as comfortable as the exos.
I have an older exos I got at a garage sale, my biggest issue is that it's a medium, and I really needed a large, so it doesn't carry as well as it should. Aside from that, I have noticed it doesn't perform well over 30lbs, which is a weight I struggle to get under with my loadout. From what I see of the new pro model, I think it might be perfect.
My favorite backpack - about 25 years old - has this type of mesh suspension, so I'm definitely interested in these Osprey offerings... though I'm inclined to look at the Exos 58 because it solves one of the problems you have with the 55 Pro *both side pockets zip closed (**and I can save $30).
I've stated before that I'm a truly traditional backpacker, with over 50 years of experience, and I don't like to spend a lot on gear, though lighter weight gear is becoming more appealing as I get older *and it becomes more mainstream (in design and price).
I am not willing to sacrifice comfort for weight, in most cases, which is why I've not made the step to an ultra-light backpack, yet.
I have had the Exos 55 for about 10 years now and love it still. My only complaint is I don't like the original colors that I choose back then and now want to get the new exos pro 55! :)
I agree with walking with an umbrella. It works great, obviously none-techincal trails.
I recently bought this pack in an attempt to lighten up my gear when I hike. I have a couple Ospreys and an older Kelty that I used in the past, and was looking to shed some weight. I like Osprey packs due to their suspension - i just haven't found a true ultralight that had a suspension to my liking. While I am shooting for much lighter pack and gear weight (I think most I have carried was 35-40lbs on an AT section hike with 5 days of food and water, plus some heavier gear I have since replaced), I did want a pack that (in a pinch) would allow me to carry a heavier load more comfortably. If I hike with my wife or daughter, I am likely going to be carrying most everything, hence the desire to have a pack that can be lightweight, but still carry a semi-heavy load if the situation calls for it. You never know when water is going to be scarce, and require you to haul it down the trail in greater than normal quantities.
Great video! I didn't like my Osprey at first either; but mine won me over very quickly. LOL! Thanks for the video!
I just got the Granite Gear perimeter 35. Weighs a little more than I’d like but the comfort is off the charts. I have an osprey daylite plus. I swear it weighs more than my Perimeter lol
I’m considering trying a Perimeter 50 to possibly replace my BELOVED Osprey Atmos 50 AG, but I love it so much I’d probably keep it and alternate between them LOL (assuming the Perimeter is at least as comfy.)
@@philsmith2444 I did a hard 10 miles in the Buffalo River in Arkansas last weekend for the first trip with it. I forgot I had a loaded pack on even with large amounts of elevation change. What I love is the fact I can customize the fit. That was a HUGE selling point for me. My bigger pack is a Sierra Designs Flex Capicitor 60-75 which comes in almost a full lb lighter than the Perimeter 35. That being said the Perimeter is rated to a 40 lb load in a 35L pack. So with an 11 lbs load it was heaven lol
@@DontHateItsBased I’ve had my Atmos loaded to 35lb and it was rock steady on my back, never shifting and throwing me off balance. It sounds like the Perimeter 50 should be the same if it’s a good fit for my body type. One question I have is how much play there is in the shoulder strap attachment points? Daisy chains don’t seem to be the most secure method of attachment, but I’m guessing all the slop is taken up when you have the pack on and tightened? And I’m interested to see how they hold up long-term. How’s GG’s warranty? What do you think of that top flap? It looks like it won’t hold much as a brain. Is the bottom flap also removable? (It looks like it is in the pics.) Its pocket also looks on the small side, both maybe good for TP/trowel/hand sanitizer, water filter, pack cover, etc. Have you had it out in rain? How water repellent is it?
@@philsmith2444 once everything is packed the straps are def mitigated. That was one of my concerns also. The only straps that seemed excessive are for the waist.
The fact it still has that flap is enough for me to not bother going back to Osprey. It may be a user thing, but I find the brain pocket to be more of an annoyance. Maybe I am doing it wrong, if I only put gloves or my rain jacket in there... But I usually kept a med kit in there and it just flopped around against my head/neck. I'd rather have an oversized belt pocket or low profile side pocket. Next pack I get is either a replacement Hyperlite or the Kakwa 40. I did enjoy my last Osprey's back ventilation though...
The problem with the brain is that if the main compartment isn’t full the brain will flop around, as you found out. Mine tend to stay off until winter, the larger pocket gets hat, gloves, and merino shirt, and the smaller has the first aid kit, handwarmers, and emergency bivy.
Before switching to an REI Flash 55 for the water bottle pockets, I had an Osprey Exos 48 and it was the most comfortable pack I've ever owned
Really tempted to pick up the Exos 55 Pro to make a comparison, but maybe next year.
I've worked at REI, and like them as a company a lot, but I would agree the Exos (and pro) is a better pack than the Flash. REI's Flash series is sort of a compromise. They aren't junk, at all, but more of an intro to getting lighter, while still having most features people expect.
@@PhilAndersonOutside That dedicated side water bottle pocket on the Flash 55 is just so darn convenient!!! Really wish more packs had the same set up
Nice review man! My first day hiking pack was a osprey stratos 24. I loved that pack!! The trampelene back is second to none! Until i tried severe ultralight gear then i realized how much i missed their trampelene mesh back panel. Although alot of other osprey packs dont compare to the stratos trampelene back. They seem to have shrunk the seperation overtime on the back mesh? I do like this new exos 55. The brain of these packs are a handy feature. I say that too cause i noticed alot of people who use ultralight roll top packs still find themselves without enough room. So before you know it gear is filled every exterior pocket and some even have gear dangling off the pack somewhere. Seems thats where alot of ultralight packs fail. I want the pack im using to hold all my gear without gear hanging off the pack too much. Only thing i would like to see osprey do is use premium pack materials like Robic nylon, dyneema, X-pack, ultra pack. Maybe even design their own roll top pack but keep this new trampelene style back and frame suspension. Not sure if that crosses over Z-packs patents or not but would be very nice to see. Or i would like to see an update Levity pack made with better materials and offered in more subdued color ways. White is just tough to keep clean. Good stuff man! Hike on!!
That would be the ultimate pack for me ; Osprey suspension, roll top and made it dyneema👌
im currently using the exos 58 and you are right on it with the air suspension. Sooooo nice and comfy. Its my go to pack. Probably wont even look at other packs for years to come.
I actually love my Osprey bag. I have an ultralight bag as well and I actually find my Osprey bag to be significantly more comfortable and I get more use out of it
I'm a rookie 'packer looking for comfort more than UL. I don't know that I'll ever pack more than 3 days so a bit of extra weight won't matter as much to me. I definitely want lighter gear, but as of right now, weight is never better than 3rd priority for me. And really my priorities are a balance of cost, "good" and weight
Give Granite Gear a try, since the Crown3 60 came out you can often find the previous Crown2 model for 40-50% off the $220 MSRP. 2.5lb, no suspension or wire frame but with a back pad, frame sheet, and hip belt that really transfer weight to your hips very well.
That red strap inside the draw string is to create a "head hollow" anove the shoulder straps so the bag doesnt slap you in the back of the hood. It is more effecyinside the pack like that.
I would definitely try this pack. I love my Osprey "traditional" pack already so I'm interested in a lighter pack from them!
I have the Gregory Focal 58, which I think is "inspired" by the Exos? But the compression strap is over the main compartment, not under like on the Exos. Comes in at 2lbs 11oz. It has a brain. My top requirement on the new pack was back ventilation cuz I'm a sweaty boy ...and this pack checks that box and many, many others.
Exos 58 with an added phone pocket on the shoulder strap is pretty solid. Though the Pro variant has a much lower listed weight and is very intriguing bc of that.
At age 70 with a taste for long hikes (400km, 2 weeks upwards), ultralight is a requirement not an option. I’ve been using an Osprey Atmos 50 (mostly without the brain) for several years and really like the comfort and the antigravity system. However it does weigh 1.850kg and I’ve been wondering about a pack to bring that weight down some. Looks like this could be the one!
You could also consider Atmos LT.
As someone who sufferschronic fatigue and pain the suspension and lightweight has me sold, i'd add a zip or velcro to that left pocket so that phone or gopro doesn't fall out if I fall forwards. Other than that it looks good, darker green or brown options would be nice Osprey. Love all your videos and work you put in, thanks for the Nikwax video did all my gear last two days 😊
I am really wanting to get this pack. I have been looking at the Exos for awhile as I am looking to lower some pack weight, and then when Osprey came out with this Pro model, I'm sold! Just need to keep saving a little more, so the Mrs. doesn't complain too much about "more gear"
Thanks for the review!
We have a hiking trip on the JMT in August and I am up in the air on this pack.
I know a lot of people lean towards the ultralight packs on this trail, but my full load will be around 15-18 pounds, so I am at a crossroads as to which route to go (ultralight or this pack).
Comfort is honestly the most important thing to me, and that might sway me towards this pack.
Just wanted to know your thoughts on this.
Thanks for the video!
I have just completed the Cape Wrath Trail using the new Exos Pro…. It was brilliant, super comfortable and carried all I needed.