TURN THAT TUBE AMP DOWN! But keep your TONE! TONE KING IRONMAN II ATTENUATOR
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- Опубліковано 24 тра 2019
- The Tone King Ironman II Reactive Power Attenuator
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I have a confession: tuning into your clips is less about the gear and more about your playing and tunes. Rock on, brother.
totally right
This is the best way to learn, though, IMO. He plays them right and the tab makes it double-understandable. No wasted time, get up to speed. There are a few tracks, though, where I wish the guitar volume were just a bit higher. And some have double guitar tracks, which can be a bit confusing.
"LOST IN GER-MA-NY!" 🤘🏻❤️🤘🏻
Randy Willcox I was gonna write this same thing but you got here first so all I could do was a measly like.
argh: you beat me!
"Fucktuating" - my new favorite word.
when the room, ambient noise, humidity and other uncontrollable variables affect your sound in an undesirable fashion - fucktuation.
The Solo Boost footswitch is such an obvious thing to have on an attenuator, I have NEVER seen one before, excellent idea.
+1 for King's X content.
"Moving in a bus too close for comfort
Listening to all the gibberish around me"....👍
I just started using an attenuator and it's made such a huge difference. With practice for sure since I'm in an apartment building but since I've started using it at gigs I've gotten a lot of compliments on my tone. I'm able to get a massive stadium type tone in a room for only 200 people. Very rad.
Informative video. Nice that you did the volume matching.
THANK YOU PETE! For taking the time to do this. I know its time consuming, but it is oh so appreciated and informative. Thanks again!
Love Pete and Kings X!! Another awesome video Pete. Thank you sir!
I’m super satisfied with my Fryette Power Station, but this seems to sound great too. We’ve come a long way since the Power Soak. Glad to see new advancements in this kind of old school technology.
The Fryette is better at attenuation, IMO, because the volume is not stepped like on this one, it is infinitely variable (at any point below maximum). The Fryette is also a power amp so you can boost lower powered amps for more volume. The Ironman is great but I'd want a variable volume control, not stepped. I like the impedance matching on the back, though - cool - the Fryette doesn't have that. They both cost about the same.
@@hootowl6354 The fryette does reamp your sound thats why it has a variable volume controll.
Kinda dislike the fact that it takes all the signal and reamp it with its in build power amp instead of the Power amp from the Amp itself.
But must sound very good anyway.
@@toxicavenger9617 Your amp goes into the Fryette and then goes through two 6L6's with the goal of being neutral sounding. I imagine they do add some of their own character, though. But basically, it's still your amp sound, just now at a variable volume to 50-watts (or 100 if you get that model). Plus, you have all speaker and amp ohms covered, and there's another effects loop. Not to mention other things. But it's $800.
The volume matched comparisons were pretty nice! Thanks for taking the time.
I purchased mine a few months ago, a life saver in the condo for sure!
Damn, sounds pretty consistent through the attenuation levels. Thank you as always, for what you do Pete... And love the Sunday show. I look forward to it a LOT... I'm a fellow "Guitar Nerd" 👍😜
Nice lick! Lost in Germany from King’s X!!! Ty Tabor would approve (I hope)!
It's incredible. Worth every penny.
That! Was the best most thoughtful way to put a viewer where you are!
Thanks. More helpful than I ever expected.
Rocking some King's X Love Ty! Good tune
Great demo. Very informative. +1 for the King's X!
You're an awesome dude. Thanks for sharing your knowledge
Thank you for this review Pete. I finally pulled the trigger on an attenuator and got this bad boy (after watching this clip) and love the tones I’m getting from it. So much so , it’s made the lar/mar master volume on my 1959SLP reissue redundant. Has restored the low mid response which was choked out with the Lar/Mar.🤘
Awesome tech detail and guitar work. Well done.
Really impressed with the Tone King Ironman II!
Great demo Pete!
Pete Thorn is mortal! I had serious doubts...effective content as usual Pete.
Hey Pete, thanks so much for the demo, I’m just starting to learn about attenuators and this was super informative. Love the Channel!
Great choice on the riff Pete! Ty and King's X don't get enough love man. Great demo as always Pete -- info on the product(s) is always mega useful to aid in a possible purchase.
This is so much needed in my life right now! 🔥
Thanks Pete! And great haircut brother! ✌🏼
That´s a cool little gizmo. Listened with headphones and I´ve got to say that it didn´t alter the sound much at all. Sounds like a quality product indeed. Thank god my AFD100 has a built-in attenuator! 🤣
I believe Ty would approve. Such a great lick.
Geez Pete, you're hitting it out of the park with great videos recently... First that Wetter Box video & now this...... The music manufacturers are lucky they have guys like you able to concisely and accurately demo their gear.
Nothing wrong with attenuated sounds.Good demonstration.One more time thanks for such great content on this channel.
Thanks Pete! Very informative!
Great sound examples Pete thorn.
Great clip so well presented and really helpful thanks so much
Awesome video comme d'habitude ! These amps are really the quintessence of tone. Man does that AC15 sound great, I just love it.
Wow, pretty impressive. Like you say, it changes the tone slightly, but it doesn't choke it like some other attenuators.
Thanks for the demo, decided to buy one. Cant wait to get it.
I loved the review especially because you were using the Lost in Germany riff. Kings X remains as my favorite band an that song is one of my most favorite songs! THANK YOU for giving TY some greatly deserved Props!
What a tool, the Ironman II is packed with features. Very thorough demo Pete, LOVE the sound of the AC15! Thanks for leaving the clam in there, you're teasing us ; )
Thanks for the Volume Match thing. That really was what I was looking for.
Dude, your reviews are the best. Thank you!
Dude, thanks for the video. My dealer at Sweetwater has been pushing this product on me hard when I knew nothing about it because I am a new dad with an affinity for loud old school tube amps and your video was the most helpful resource on this product thus far. Thanks bro, great job on the video as well!
Most reactive devices sound very good ... I use a Two Notes Studio (studio) and Radial JDX (live) and love what you can get with them ... as close to real as it gets. This device has some really cool features that even the Two Notes devices don't have ... very useful and sounds great. Great demo as always! Thanks Pete!!!
This is the first attenuator demonstration I've seen that doesn't make the false claim that one's tone will be unaffected by said device. I also appreciate that he mentions how it can be better applied but not go so far as to say it's going to be able to feel/respond, and record just like a cranked 100 watt head into a 4X12 cabinet. Now if only I can find a review that's honest about buffers....
Buffer, my review is three words: Siegmund Missing Link (i opted for custom flat response one)
Carmelo Santini hmm. going to check it out
@@stephenchow5161 You're welcome :) Checkout the pickup emulator also, that was a special design I was trying to find online... a way to restore the impedance of a guitar before an amp. He ended up making it from a forum design, improved it, loved it.
He's very email responsive
This stuff is the best always on you can imagine
I'm unaffiliated but if you PM me we can talk more... I need to make some videos so people can hear the proof , you won't find much online for his stuff at all unfortunately. I don't know what the hesitation is
I really like this attenuator it did a great job and the same for you on your video
and I'm glad to see that you finally got a good haircut Lol . Thank you so much for taking time out to do the videos great job as usual !
cool stuff Pete Thanks as usual.
Hi Pete, I am considering this piece but I have to say, playing Lost In Germany by King's X makes me think that I have to go get this thing! It's a sign! I love King's X, they are so incredible. And the Lost In Germany riff is one of the best ever, so good!! I have the 8 ohm and 16 ohm THD hot plates and I really like those but the Ironman II has quite a few more features.
The female singer in my band, and I, would like to thank you for bringing this to my attention. It sounds great!!!
Very useful device. If I had one starting back a couple of years my neighbors might still like me!
Wow great job Pete on a subject that’s so hard to capture well!!! 🤘😎🤘
Great demo Pete thank you
Pretty good demo! I found very little difference in sound. In a live band setting, you could modify the attenuator at will and it would go unnoticed. Thanks Pete!
I love that Pete uses that Suhr Badger as an end table next to his couch.
King's X is always the proper way to test any equipment! And having Pete perform the test is the best way to get a proper assessment. I absolutely love your ear Pete, what you want from your sound matches my taste perfectly, the difference being you can actually explain it. lol
Great video...This is FANTASTIC , Pete! Thank you for taking the time to share. Would you consider doing one on how to hook it up in the chain? Also, is the footswitch a static 4db boost only? Thanks again.
I yeah...it will be mine.😆thanks for all the useful information brother...also ur playing is awesome..🤘🇺🇸🎸🎼🎶🎶🎶🎶
Dude your an animal, love your tones and playing, your presentation is as good as always. Very informative 👏
Great tone demo video! I love using a looper for the comparisons. Sounds great.
Would be rad if you could use your own IRs though!
The AC15 is such a great amp. I love mine. Great clean and drive at reasonable volumes. Still heavy as #$%^ though for a 'small' amp... great video!
Just grabbed one. Nice review Pete
Excellent video and completely relevant to the situation with the Hiwatt I've just purchased. 200 watts RMS worth of Hiwatt is tough to tame, and even though the sound is glorious (and I am deaf anyway), my neighbors 500 feet away can't hear their television. Thank you for the technical solution, Pete T !
Very cool to see the King’s X love!!!! Great video as usual.
Here is the deal with you Pete… every time I tune into a video with you reviewing gear… I completely forget I’m watching a gear video. I immediately lose myself in your tones and playing. No kissing ass here. I have nothing to gain besides maybe a like or a reply. Either way, you’re becoming one of my biggest inspirations and guitar heroes. Thanks Pete!
Great review. Everything is well explained, and to point. When I am learning, I love to get right to the thick of things.
Thanks!
@@PeteThorn Thank you man!
Really good device. I guess the main difference in the tone would be the speaker interaction at cranked level.
What is this magical wizardry! Awesome demo pete!
Dang Pete your playing is usually so f_n precise, nice to see you are actually human, gives the rest of us hope :) Great information as always, the volume matching clips were genius, sounded to me like a little low end was lost each time the signal was attenuated but the drive characteristics of the amp were mostly preserved. Excellent review sir.
now you can play your favourite songs and your grandma cant complain its too loud. amazing
Hey Pete don't know if you really read these are not but I have missed all of your cool videos I'm glad to see you're putting some more alpro God bless you and Merry Christmas
Hey great video man! You've answered a couple of my questions on different videos about this, but I am still trying to find what would suit my situation best. I ultimately have 3 main goals.
1: Be able to record my old tube amps at their sweet spot, either silently or through monitors
2: Be able to attenuate/re amp when I don't feel like climbing through software or routing output through monitors and just want to jam in front of my amp with its own speakers
3: Be able to play silently with headphones when needed
I'm still lost with all the options and now just added this one to the mix. The Captor X seems like it would fit all my needs at the best price, but I'm not sure if the attenuation is serviceable for my 2nd goal. The Boss TAE seems like the best option, but I don't know if it justifies being 2x the price. Although I do like that it could add an FX loop, delay and reverb to my old vintage amps. Then there's other options like the Suhr RLIR, but no attenuation feature. And the Fryette Power Station, but now RL haha.
Now there's this one. I've heard TK attenuation is best in class, but I wonder if the RL IR abilities are on par with the other options?
What would you recommend/which option would you go with? Really appreciate the help! Cheers
Interesting. Another outstanding video (love the King's X riff :-)...). What I can't figure out is which power level I need for my amp. I have a 40watt amp, would the 30watt be enough to get my amp to bedroom volumes?? Seems like it's really well designed piece of gear.
You're the only one who bothered to volume match - thanks Pete
Waiting on mine to arrive via Fed Ex. Hopefully it makes this SV20 more usable. Wouldn't think 20 watts would be that loud, but wow. Thanks PT.
Great video. Thanks! This is one of the best attenuators I have heard but I still that mushy collapse and compression - like you have to dig in more for the presence when playing. Like you said at the beginning, due to the complexity of the physics involved, I am coming to the conclusion that it is impossible and there will always be a compromise. I have a Marshall powerbrake from the 90's. This is definitely better
Love you man and thanks
I consider myself very lucky that both my amps have built in attenuators. A 1981 JCM800 2204 modded by Lee Jackson in 1982 and a 1993 Ampeg VL502 Lee Jackson designed model. Both I can crank and have bedroom volume levels. Paired with a
Great review !! Do you have a vid on your current cab room? If not would be great as I'm looking at setting up a ISO room to mic cabs and a few tips would come in handy eg size, treatment etc.
Greatings from bolivia... all the best bro
Pete👍!
Much of the perceived change in tone is the fletcher-munson curve, combined with the fact that you're no longer driving the speaker as hard.
Nice! I've been trying to get a THD Hot Plate to reduce the volume without affecting the tone drastically, with limited success. The Tone King Ironman II does a great job of keeping that sizzle in there.
@KC I run mine at -3db almost all the time and it sounds great.
About time for a bit of King's X. Also about time people started to really give super props to the tone genius that is Ty Tabor.
2:18 I do the same thing. I always say "Fletcher Munchin" and know that's not what I'm trying to say. It's like some kind of weird speech impediment.
Thanks for sharing the video and information on this attenuator
Great Demo Pete
Pete another great informative video . I have learned a ton of things from your videos man . Your a totall pro and a class act .
Thanks Bill!
Hey Pete by the way love your reviews always seem honest and even though you are a touring artist you seem to always keep in mind of the home or bedroom rockstar lol I got a question the tone king iron man attenuator seems to be the best attenuation for the money but I did notice the ox box in the background and the 2 most expensive but names are the box box and the Waza boss ir attenuation box between the 3 which one is best for a guitarist who is not recording or touring just a gear and tone junkie lol and would be good for tube heads but good for combo amps with those short speaker cables...
it;s pretty good
I use a Rivera Rock Crusher and it's great at holding tone; not the recording one they make, but the lesser straight/non-eq one. I use it with a Marshall Plexi 1959 reissue, and there's just no other way around it if you want that tone at civil levels. Got it used for $300 which was a great deal. Really important to know: it MUST be reactive if one is going the attenuated route, the resistive ones are less money, but tone suckers. Aracom makes a great one too (I did a lot of attenuator research before I bought it), but, yes, they're very expensive. A good reactive attenuator is a must in amps with no master volumes, which I've grown to prefer tone-wise. What I like about this one you're showing is that it has 4, 8 and 16 ohm impedence in/outs, which is great for 4 ohm Fenders which I also have...6L6 tubes if you can get them to saturate are sublime...but really freaking loud. That UA OX sitting behind you is kind of the top-of-line when it comes to attenuators. Great gear demo.
I use a Bugera PS-1 attenuator that cost about £80 - does the job!
Cool that you played Lost In Germany! That Ironman works great. Wow.
In my mind you will never get the same tone because its not only the overdrive of the amp that gets you the tone, but it's also the saturation the speaker itself creates when you have it cranked. Attenuators will never achieve this, the only things that come close are amp modelers like Amplitube 5 or UA's oxbox that actually has physically modeled speakers that interact with the amp in a realistic way (including cone cry)
"Imperfect science". Perfectly said sir.
You are human! Thank you for leaving in the little mess up!
This technology has come a long way. I like my Two Notes Torpedo Captor 8. I use my Mesa Nomad 100 at 50 watts. I use it as a master head/preamp. I have a Noise gate, ParaEQ, mini volume at the start of the fx loop. I run a few stereo fx, the send the left out back into the Mesa Nomad 100. The other side drives a 2nd amp or my Red Box Classic. I have gotten great tones, w/o a cab. The only issue I have the difference in gain between the Red Box and the Two Notes Torpedo Captor 8. I have been thinking of either getting a 2nd Two Notes Torpedo Captor 8 for my other Tube amp. I don't always need to use it. Looking at getting a more adjustable Speaker Sim box, maybe the Friedman Mic No 'Mo! Or the newer Red Box that has 0 db or -26db. Love the Lost In Germany riffage!
Nice video! I like it, but I can’t decide between the Ironman II and the rifera rock crusher. Just for attenuation
very cool video!
I fucking cannot get enough of that riff
Great playing and explanation, as always. Really appreciate your honesty about it too, eloquently describing how it works, what it is trying to do, but also the limitations of any attenuator. I]Such honesty makes me much more interested in this product than if I heard someone saying it was perfect, which I would just ignore. I hope the manufacturer appreciates that (I would think a killer company like Tone King would).
Mark Bartel, the designer of Tone King amps and the Ironman attenuators, is a perfectionist, methodical and very careful how he does things. I have two of his amps and they are amazing, and my amp tech loves them and, after having them open, only recommends them when people ask him what boutique amp they should buy. They're expensive but if you can justify them they're wonderful tools.
Thanks Jason! Ya I like to keep it real!
Lost In Germany. Best guitar riff ever written
Pete, I think this is the best attenuator demo I've ever seen or heard. You covered ideas I never considered by volume matching the tracks. I think you set the standard for any future comparisons/demos of these devices, much like you did back years ago with the Scumback speaker videos. The Ironman II seems very impressive. I'm gonna order one to try for myself. Side note: glad to see some Kings X love!
Hi Pete,
I‘d love to hear your opinion of how the Ironman II compares to the Faustine Phantom that we also see in the clip.
In the old HRI days, the Faustine was always discussed as the best of the best...