One argument that's often raised in defence of kibble over raw is the costs involved. Too many people think it's too expensive to offer fresh and natural foods. I won't disagree that feeding kibble costs less, especially if it's cheap rubbish that consists of wheat, corn and meat flavouring instead of actual meat. However, if you are discerning enough that you feed your dog a premium kibble whose primary ingredient is meat, then you're already spending quite a bit per kilo. I have an 8 month old Australian Kelpie and today I bought him six lamb kidneys, some lamb liver and a huge lump of beef steak that was destined to become sausages. Also got a very large bag of bones, enough to give him a small one each day for more than a week, with a couple of others left over to make a broth from. Cost me $22 and is enough red meat and offal to meet much of his protein requirements for at least 4 days. I also give him other foods like fish and poultry, so it's all the red meat, offal and bone he needs in 7 days. If I fed him a premium kibble, then based on the feeding recommendations on the bag, he should be fed around 1kg over three days (350gms per day for a dog of his size and age). That works out to cost about $20-30 per week and that's without adding any extra supplements like eggs, sardines, vegetables and whatnot. I doubt that it's costing me more than 15-25% over what I would pay for a dry, bland, invariable diet. In fact I see that extra spending as a form of insurance because it should free me from the expense of paying a vet to fix the health issues created by the continuous feeding of an inadequate, inappropriate and completely crap diet. Something else I am noticing since switching to raw/fresh/natural feeding is my dog seems a bit more focused and switched on. I realise that correlation isn't causation and the fact he's maturing and I'm spending a lot of time training, playing and interacting with him is responsible for a lot of behavioural changes. That aside, I've no reason to doubt that because he's getting a far more appropriate diet, he's more alert and willing to pay attention. He's also a little less manic, and I'm thinking that's in part due to the fact I'm no longer feeding him carbohydrates. It's widely recognised that children who receive a poor diet have difficulty concentrating and struggle with learning a lot more than their peers who are able to eat more healthy foods. Why would that be any different for young dogs being trained?
Awesome part on the GABA - any companion on seizure disorders should be digging into the dietary managment of the seizure disorders. Healthy, balanced diet... it all starts there. Keep up the good work informing all pawrents!
The big point here it’s call SOURCE. The source is everything matters in raw feeding. A bad source can lead to lot of problems, so tracking the source and found a good one it’s everything should matters. I guess those who are afraid about bacteria they live themselves inside a bubble with a neutral atmosphere haha
interesting information, especially about the probiotic that eats sugar and the proper way to take probiotics. I use Dr Dobias' probiotic for my dog and they have never advised feeding before the meal. They always say to put on food so wondering if the yogurt thing you mentioned would be better. I also wish Dr Morgan would do a video explaining what exactly is "gently cooked" food when made at home.
I love the idea of raw however my love stops at the slaughter house.. unfortunately the lack of processing standards create incredible loads bacteria that not all animals can handle. I seen one dog bleed out turn septic from lack stomach acid chicken bacteria unknown and one produce mastitis due ecoli. This made me aware that super market meat is just as substandard to a fresh or clean kill where no feces reaches the meat being consumed. Seems to very naive to think it's a simple solution. I hate kibble but I don't want to kill my dog because I don't hunt myself and out sourcing raw is expensive and dangerous as kibble when you deal with mass production.
What I find bizarre is how people think raw feeding is something to be concerned about and conducted in a totally scientific way. Not just those people who worry about the risk of bacteria, but also those who treat it as something that if not done precisely, will cause our dogs to suffer. "Oh no, I haven't got the usual sardine to add to his meal. I'm certain that will now cause suffering and distress due to a lack of Omega 3..." Aggh, no eggs. If I can't give him the crushed shell, then I'm worried his calcium intake won't be adequate. " Oh my gosh. I accidentally dropped a grape and my dog ate it. How long can I expect him to live for?" "If I usually give my dog 65% beef and 15% sheep kidneys, then how much beef should I give my dog if I feed him chicken hearts instead?" "Oops, forgot the half clove of garlic. I bet my dog will be crawling with fleas, and riddled with worms in the morning."
Together Always so informative. I love the two of you together. Your natural chemistry is amazing.
One argument that's often raised in defence of kibble over raw is the costs involved. Too many people think it's too expensive to offer fresh and natural foods. I won't disagree that feeding kibble costs less, especially if it's cheap rubbish that consists of wheat, corn and meat flavouring instead of actual meat. However, if you are discerning enough that you feed your dog a premium kibble whose primary ingredient is meat, then you're already spending quite a bit per kilo.
I have an 8 month old Australian Kelpie and today I bought him six lamb kidneys, some lamb liver and a huge lump of beef steak that was destined to become sausages. Also got a very large bag of bones, enough to give him a small one each day for more than a week, with a couple of others left over to make a broth from. Cost me $22 and is enough red meat and offal to meet much of his protein requirements for at least 4 days. I also give him other foods like fish and poultry, so it's all the red meat, offal and bone he needs in 7 days.
If I fed him a premium kibble, then based on the feeding recommendations on the bag, he should be fed around 1kg over three days (350gms per day for a dog of his size and age). That works out to cost about $20-30 per week and that's without adding any extra supplements like eggs, sardines, vegetables and whatnot.
I doubt that it's costing me more than 15-25% over what I would pay for a dry, bland, invariable diet. In fact I see that extra spending as a form of insurance because it should free me from the expense of paying a vet to fix the health issues created by the continuous feeding of an inadequate, inappropriate and completely crap diet.
Something else I am noticing since switching to raw/fresh/natural feeding is my dog seems a bit more focused and switched on. I realise that correlation isn't causation and the fact he's maturing and I'm spending a lot of time training, playing and interacting with him is responsible for a lot of behavioural changes.
That aside, I've no reason to doubt that because he's getting a far more appropriate diet, he's more alert and willing to pay attention. He's also a little less manic, and I'm thinking that's in part due to the fact I'm no longer feeding him carbohydrates.
It's widely recognised that children who receive a poor diet have difficulty concentrating and struggle with learning a lot more than their peers who are able to eat more healthy foods. Why would that be any different for young dogs being trained?
Awesome part on the GABA - any companion on seizure disorders should be digging into the dietary managment of the seizure disorders. Healthy, balanced diet... it all starts there. Keep up the good work informing all pawrents!
I love this talk. Common sense.
The big point here it’s call SOURCE. The source is everything matters in raw feeding. A bad source can lead to lot of problems, so tracking the source and found a good one it’s everything should matters. I guess those who are afraid about bacteria they live themselves inside a bubble with a neutral atmosphere haha
Sharing ❤🐕
Thank you!! I enjoy all the talks with Dr. Conor. I learn so much!
love Dr. Conor's book.... fantastic!
interesting information, especially about the probiotic that eats sugar and the proper way to take probiotics. I use Dr Dobias' probiotic for my dog and they have never advised feeding before the meal. They always say to put on food so wondering if the yogurt thing you mentioned would be better.
I also wish Dr Morgan would do a video explaining what exactly is "gently cooked" food when made at home.
Thanks for this video awesome
I use a pressure cooker to cook my dogs food put all ingredients in and cook for a short period of time is this an acceptable way to do it.
I am feeding sundays airdry comma dr marty's freeze dried and smack dehydrated. Do you feel these also lack in nutrients?
Can you suggest a probiotic for my chihuahua who suffers from anxiety, fear. Prescription medication from the Veterinarian did not help.
I love the idea of raw however my love stops at the slaughter house.. unfortunately the lack of processing standards create incredible loads bacteria that not all animals can handle. I seen one dog bleed out turn septic from lack stomach acid chicken bacteria unknown and one produce mastitis due ecoli. This made me aware that super market meat is just as substandard to a fresh or clean kill where no feces reaches the meat being consumed. Seems to very naive to think it's a simple solution. I hate kibble but I don't want to kill my dog because I don't hunt myself and out sourcing raw is expensive and dangerous as kibble when you deal with mass production.
What I find bizarre is how people think raw feeding is something to be concerned about and conducted in a totally scientific way. Not just those people who worry about the risk of bacteria, but also those who treat it as something that if not done precisely, will cause our dogs to suffer.
"Oh no, I haven't got the usual sardine to add to his meal. I'm certain that will now cause suffering and distress due to a lack of Omega 3..."
Aggh, no eggs. If I can't give him the crushed shell, then I'm worried his calcium intake won't be adequate. "
Oh my gosh. I accidentally dropped a grape and my dog ate it. How long can I expect him to live for?"
"If I usually give my dog 65% beef and 15% sheep kidneys, then how much beef should I give my dog if I feed him chicken hearts instead?"
"Oops, forgot the half clove of garlic. I bet my dog will be crawling with fleas, and riddled with worms in the morning."