It’s actually so infuriating that Guillermo del Toro stood on that stage last year and talked about how Animation is not a genre and it should be respected as a medium, only to get disrespected next year like always
Yeah!! He did that once, he would do it multiple times so that the people who don’t respect animation can finally show the respect animation deserves!!
I mean Nimona getting nominated over Wish at least makes a more decent than usual line up for animated feature, but yeah the fact that animation is never even considered for categories besides best animated and usually at least one best original song is maddening. Spider-Verse not getting anything else is stupid (I still think the first one not getting a best picture nom is one of the biggest snubs in Oscar history), but for the oscars it seems to be a better year than most.
@@Joenah5 Sure but their view over the Animated category is still very narrow minded since it feels like they never take the time and care to consider anime for example(except if it's Studio Ghibli)
Seeing Schaff’s bitterness towards Oscar season get stronger and seeing his tone get more and more melancholic over time is kinda like seeing the before and after effects of alcohol abuse.
Honestly it seems so poetic how Nimona was cast aside by Disney because it "didn't fit the brand" or whatever the reason was yet it ends up being mostly well received and is nominated for best animated feature yet Wish (Disney's 100th Anniversary film) wasn't XD As if Disney needed another lesson in hubris lmao
“It didn’t fit the brand” aka it was too gay. Meanwhile they patted themselves on the back for having a non binary character in Elemental even though the character isn’t even non binary in the movie, but in the novelization.
I wish the movies just used his score and didn't bother with licensed music. Simply because the original score is outstanding and the songs plain suck and really pull me out of the movie
The fact Gaurdians 3 was snubbed for the makeup and hairstyling is criminal. It had the most amount of prosthetics in movie history and they all looked amazing mixed with the makeup
I know Comic Book Movies aren't high art, but the number of technical categories they get passed up on is starting to reach Animated Movie levels of disrespect
I am the most shocked that across the spiderverse didn't get nominated for best score. That alone sucks but the fact that the dial of destiny was nominated instead really drove the metaphorical knife deeper into my side.
Schaffrillas’s really fulfilled some prophecy with that tweet last night. That is so funny and sad. 5:49 is honestly such a funny reaction though. Never thought I’d hear him sound like that.
That is the most insane Schaffrillas reaction I've ever seen. I've heard him get angry, and I imagine it's somewhat exaggerated, but oh boy, that was strong.
I 100% agree with the Spider-Verse scandal, but HOW DID GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY VOL. 3 NOT GET NOMINATED FOR MAKEUP?!?! It broke the record for most prosthetics in a movie, and the whole High Evolutionary mask thing was crazy. They really hate Superhero movies. I’m also pretty sure that the entire set used for Knowhere may have been the biggest set in Marvel movie history?
@@TheNunchuckChampion I didn’t even really think that for a while, but I’m starting to believe it. From now on, I think I’m just gonna ignore award shows lol
oscar predictor here and I'm here to tell you that it was likely going to happen tbh. before the shortlists dropped, all of us had guardians in #2 or #3 in makeup, and then we actually freaked out when we found out it wasn't eligible on the shortlists for whatever reason. i really don't think martin scorsese is trying to rub off on the oscars lol. i loved guardians 3 and i really did wish it got in, but I'm not surprised. the oscars don't even respect legacy filmmakers in the live-action field.
@@TheNunchuckChampionnot a bad thing…although true efforts to be good get mixed with the general brand recognition that usually shouldn’t get nominated
"Best animated feature" is really starting to feel like the Thanksgiving kids table for movies with films like Spider-Verse being the 16 year old who's ready to sit with the adults Edit: I'm not saying Boy and the Heron doesn't also deserve to move tables, Spider-Verse was just the example I chose
Ngl people are over exaggerating how good spider verse is. Like spider verse is definitely a good movie, but it’s just not on the level of other films this year like Oppenheimer, Killers of the Flower Moon, and The Holdovers
@michaeltnk1135 Even if you're not a fan of the plot, you can't deny the visual and technical marvel this film is. The animation, editing, sound design, score are all top notch and deserve recognition, but it gets tossed aside just because it's animated
@michaeltnk1135 that sounds like a pretty subjective opinion. Like Ive seen Oppenheimer,killers and spiderverse and its absolutely on the same level to me.
This nomination kinda pissed me off because i remember being actually dissapointed with the characterization😂 there's that one speech scene where he's hallucinating a nuclear bomb victim but that ,,victim" just looks like she didn't use sunscreen. Literally just skin kinda peeled off. I was like damn, people were getting evaporated in hiroshima and that's the best they could come up with?
Gotg 3 literally has a WORLD RECORD for most makeup and prosthetics in a movie, yet it isn’t nominated for best makeup and hairstyling Edit: I understand that just because it has the most doesn’t make it the best. But it’s still REALLY impressive and (in my opinion) looks way better than some of the other movies. If you’ve seen the movie you’d know
Most and best are not the same thing. I'm not saying it shouldn't have been nominated, but the fact that it had the most makeup and prosthetics out of any movie shouldn't be the deciding factor.
Wow, I did not know that. I’m actually rooting for Guardians to win. none of the previous Guardians films won an Oscar before so so it would be nice if this one did
The fact that John Williams got 54 nominations and none of them were for The Phantom Menace or Revenge of the Sith tells you all you need to know about that category
The fact that John Williams didn't win for Prisoner of Azkaban in 2004 when it was the best of his Harry Potter work (and all the HP soundtracks), didn't share many features with the Prequels unlike HP 1and 2 which he scored at the same time, and explored Renaissance-style themes and instrumentation was so unserious of the Academy.
@@Asimigiovani "Return of the King" didn't win against "Prisoner of Azkaban". They came out in different years. POA instead lost to "Finding Neverland"
Hot take: Attack Of The Clones has the worst score from all SW films--it's decent with tracks like Across The Stars, the Coruscant chase music and (of course) the ending theme, but other than that not everything is too memorable... in comparison, even the minor cues from Revenge Of The Sith (which can be found in the complete soundtrack) was what made me discover Star Wars music in the first place
I love how Schaff turns into Golem or something for like 5 seconds after it's revealed Spiderverse didn't get a nomination for og score, and then just spouts a fugking anime villain monologue 😅
The Across the Spider-Verse soundtrack is so damn good, it absolutely should have gotten an original score nomination. Since the movie released, I've listened to the soundtrack regularly and so much of it is absolutely fantastic.
Good for you 😊 But unfortunalety we live in a time where they just don’t care about animation in the slightest. Love what is good , hate what is bad , that’s all you need to know.
Keep in mind, these are the same people who gave Rise of frickin' Skywalker a nom for "Original" Score. It's John Williams bias, just like their Disney bias on animation (though Wish was snubbed, lol).
The Spider-Verse score snub frustrates me so much. Daniel Pemberton put SO MUCH love, experimentation, and creativity into that score. it had every right to get nominated but it just wasn't I'm so sick of animated films getting nominations outside of best animated feature once in a blue moon. It shows you just how little they actually care about animation and it sucks.
It’s even for animated short films because outside of Disney, Pixar, Looney Tunes, Tom and Jerry and Wallace & Gromit most of the nominated and wins aren’t available or badly need film restorations.
@@crazyfire9470 There’s a mini-series on Sony Animation’s official YT channel with Pemberton going over the process of creating certain pieces in the score
Yeah, the new Paw Patrol movie is peak cinema. It's rated PG so that's how you know it's cool. Sometimes the dogs are scared and there's even a fake-out death. It's almost as good as The Bad Guys (2022) EDIT: Does no one understand irony
Once again, animated films have been snubbed in all but one category. Daniel Pemberton's phenomenal score deserves so much more praise and recognition. At least Nimona was rightfully nominated for Best Animated Feature instead of Wish.
There was a time the Academy recognised the animated movies in other categories. Now they're all stuck with just one award, even though these films have done far better with critics and fans.
Godzilla Minus One definitely should've been nominated for more Oscar's than just the visual effects, the acting, score, sound design were all amazing in their own right
The only nom I actually cared about was Godzilla Minus One because of how it's such a milestone for not just the franchise but for the history of Japanese special effects films Also you going wild over the original score noms had me rolling
@thomasffrench3639 I haven't. I was more so referring to the vfx nomination being of significance, especially since Japanese sfx films have always been looked down upon in America
“What was the makeup in Oppenheimer?” I take that as a compliment to the team that the old age makeup looked so good that you didn’t even clock it as makeup.
I think the Hollywood elitists who vote for the Oscars are mad that animators making “kids films” make better movies than them with their “adult dramas”. It’s the only reason I can think of why the Masterpiece that was Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse got nominated for ONLY ONE
There have only been three animated movies that have been nominated for Best Picture: Beauty and the Beast, Up, and Toy Story 3. In that same time period they actually did recognise animated movies outside of Best Animated, usually for the music. Also, in the same Oscars the live-action Disney princesses made that speech belittling these "kids movies", Flee, an adult documentary was nommed for Best Animated.
Meh, the first Spiderverse movie was better. I genuinely do not consider ATSV a “masterpiece”. I’m way more pissed that Joe Hisaishi wasn’t nominated for best score.
ehhh. a silent voice was fantastic, but it realistically never stood a chance due to the nature of its release. the lego batman movie, however, was a mainstream hollywood movie that everyone saw and loved and that somehow also missed out in the same year??? that's truly the most egregious snub. honestly if you replaced the boss baby and ferdinand with a silent voice and lego batman you'd have a peak lineup.
The one thing from this year that they get right is Godzilla Minus One getting an award for best visuals; since even on the reported budget of $15 million, with the director saying that the movie was less than the reported cost, so around the $10-$12 million, still looks exponentially better than what hollywood has been doing for the last few years.
Even in the Annie Awards (Academy Awards for Animation) Wish didn't got a SINGLE nomination but Nimona got plenty of nominations in different categories.
Especially with last year having Across the Spiderverse and Boy and the Heron, 2 of the most MATURE AND MASTERFUL ANIMATED FILMS IN RECENT YEARS got NOTHING outside of its designated category is deplorable
🎵I wish that I could be like the cool kids, 'cause all the cool kids, they seem to fit in, I wish that I could be like the could kids, like the cool kids🎵
You know what the Oscars should do if they want my attention? Right before they give the Best Picture award, they should have an orchestra play a medley of themes from all the Best Picture nominees like the Game Awards does. That’s basically the only thing the Game Awards consistently does well, so it wouldn’t hurt the Oscars to rip them off.
Spiderverse deserved Best Picture, Screenplay, VFX, Score, etc. The Academy snubbing it by not including it in its nominations is unforgivable. It's like they flat-out ignored and disrespected Guillermo Del Torro in his speech last year when he said Animation is a medium and not a genre. It would have to take a worldwide revolution and protest to remind the Academy to take back their mistake and acknowledge that Animation is Art and should be celebrated.
Maybe for Best VFX, but I don’t know about Best Picture or Score (although I don’t think John Williams should’ve been nominated, either). But, then again, if the Oscars is going to give nominations to films like “Napoleon” and “Indiana Jones: The Dial Of Destiny”, and nominate “Barbie” for Best Picture (not saying that it’s a bad film since I haven’t seen it yet, but it doesn’t quite fit the mold of an “Oscar-worthy film”), then it wouldn’t hurt to also nominate “Across The Spider-Verse” and “The Boy And The Heron” for Best Picture. Both of these films fit the mold of an “Oscar-worthy” Best Picture nomination better than a film like “Barbie” does due to the drama and mature themes in those films, in my opinion. I think Joe Hisaishi should’ve been nominated for Best Original Score, in my opinion.
So two things: A) I would probably have been much more upset by Margot Robbie being snubbed if this wasn't so clearly Lily Gladstone's year to win it B) I laughed so fucking hard at your reaction when they announced the soundtrack nominations, it's great getting to see that Oscar rage in other people
On the one hand, I absolutely love all the attention Oppenheimer is getting, as it absolutely deserves it. On the other, HOW IN THE WORLD DID ACROSS THE SPIDER VERSE NOT EVEN GET NOMINATED FOR BEST ORIGINAL SCORE?
@@crazyfire9470 Let me put it this way. Across the Spider Verse WAS my favorite soundtrack of 2023, no contest. It's the only one that I actively listened to outside of the movie.
Nah it didn’t get it because it butchered the original text and the Academy knows it. Personally so hate the film, but obviously many people think it’s fantastic. But to get nominated for best adaption you have to actually adapt the text well.
That shit was so ass bro. Me and my family immediately got home and watched Crystal Skull since my cousin kept saying that at least it wasn’t as bad as that. Turns out it was worse.
@@tallerwarrior1256Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is much worse. Maybe up until the point where it's revealed that Mutt is Indiana's son you could argue it's better, but afterwards it's terrible. Dial of Destiny is just mid through and through.
@@jd1800 Dial had such a convoluted and idiotic story, none of the main characters and antagonists were interesting or compelling, and even on the technical side it failed miserably. Crystal Skull on the other hand has a fairly well constructed story that celebrates the Indiana Jones legacy, most of the characters are all fairly compelling or at least entertaining, and the technical aspects are all good except for the CGI. Crystal Skull just got a lot of flack because of the fact that it was succeeding one of the greatest cinematic trilogies and didn’t reach the standard of any of the past three movies. The reason why many people think Dial is mid is because the movie literally doesn’t do anything. None of the characters grow and it follows the cliche trope of out of touch old man needing to move on and let go of the past (literally). There’s no substance, style, or entertainment. The only saving Grace Dial has are the first 15-20 minutes of the movie with young Indy at the end of the war, that’s it.
@@tallerwarrior1256 Dial of Destiny's antagonist isn't iconic or anything, but he was easily more compelling than Spalko, probably because it was Mads Mikkelsen. None of the characters, as cliché as they were, were worse than Mac or Willie from Temple of Doom. The movie never had anything as cringeworthy as the refrigerator nuke scene, or Mutt catching up to a speeding vehicle by swinging from vine to vine with an army of monkeys. It didn't have the awful color grading Kingdom of the Crystal Skull had up until 2021 that made everything look ugly as sin. Also, this is just personal preference, but the antikythera mechanism is a much better choice of artifact than a crystal skull.
John Williams score was amazing in dial of destiny, I loved it when the people actually in charge of score said “it’s John Williams time” and then they used John Williams old tunes all over the poace
My Dad went to go see Napoleon without me, but when he was initially inviting me to go watch it, for whatever reason he accidentally referred to the movie as "Ceasar" From now on I will only refer to the movie as Ceasar lmaooo
I cannot get over the fact that not only was Daniel Pemberton & Spiderverse not nominated for Original Score but neither was Joe Hisaishi for the Boy & the Heron?! But Indiana Jones??? Blasphemy
Across the SpiderVerse is my 2nd favorite film of all time next to Prince of Egypt. The fact it got nominated for nothing but animated feature kinda presses my buttons.
SpongeBob: Hmmm? (shows Spider-Verse) Academy: Oh that's not so much! SpongeBob: Hmmmmm? (shows The Boy and the Heron) Academy: So? SpongeBob: Hmmmmmm? (shows Nimona) HMMMMMMMMMM???? (shows Robot Dreams) HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM???????? (opens window to show TMNT: Mutant Mayhem) Academy: 😬
Godzilla only receiving a VFX nomination, when it at least deserved a best actor, supporting actress, score, and possibly even a Best Picture nomination, is so disappointing.
Between the dark crystal and spiderverse Daniel Pemberton has been in my top 5 artists for YEARS and definitely deserved to at least be nominated. The intro and Start A Band are so iconic already and even less important tracks like Guggenheim Assemble have so so much thought put into them
The Academy Awards desparately need an "Adapted Score" category if shit like "Dial of Destiny" and "Rise of Skywalker win, yet "Across the Spider-Verse" and "Avenger's Endgame" don't. Oh, and if they aren't going to nominate Animated films for anything else, they need to give them more categories, like for Voice Acting, Score, and Directing.
Sorry Schaff, but since John Williams is very very old and scored Jurassic Park the Academy thinks he needs to be nominated every year he is alive, even for re-used music, Oppenheimer's a lock though so it don't matter. Also I'm putting a tax on everyone currently commenting "Animation is Cinema" to watch Blue Eye Samurai before you do that, cause I'm not confident you ain't just all talking about Trolls 3.
Maybe they're doing this to try and atone for them not nominating his score for Jurassic Park (I mean he still got nominated and won for Schindler's List the same year, but the point still stands )
I don’t know of a single person that thinks “Trolls 3” should be nominated for Best Animated Feature, let alone any Oscar nomination. Although, I have heard people say the Mario movie should’ve been nominated for Best Animated Feature, which I don’t agree with all.
It pisses me off so much that an incredible film like Spider-Verse got nominated for less Oscars than the mediocre Napoleon. And it pisses me off even more that Spider-Verse and Indiana Jones 5 have the same amount of nominations!!!!
The sheer venom in Schaff's voice when the exact apocalyptic scenario he hypothesized played out was just incredible
Especially when he morphs into Saul Goodman for a sec😂
He was momentarily possessed by a demon.
Reality is funnier than fiction at this point like c’mon if someone says a meteor will hit us tomorrow I’m not surprised anymore
From giant crab to gremlin
Oh my goodness, he's flipping losing it entirely!
It’s actually so infuriating that Guillermo del Toro stood on that stage last year and talked about how Animation is not a genre and it should be respected as a medium, only to get disrespected next year like always
Yeah!! He did that once, he would do it multiple times so that the people who don’t respect animation can finally show the respect animation deserves!!
Yeah tbh.
The Academy is a joke to cinema. It's good when some people get the recognition they deserved, but other times they just don't give a damn.
I mean Nimona getting nominated over Wish at least makes a more decent than usual line up for animated feature, but yeah the fact that animation is never even considered for categories besides best animated and usually at least one best original song is maddening. Spider-Verse not getting anything else is stupid (I still think the first one not getting a best picture nom is one of the biggest snubs in Oscar history), but for the oscars it seems to be a better year than most.
@@Joenah5 Sure but their view over the Animated category is still very narrow minded since it feels like they never take the time and care to consider anime for example(except if it's Studio Ghibli)
Nimona, the film Disney cancelled, getting nominated over Disney’s own Wish is honestly the best thing ever lmao.
[Edit: MAMA IM FAMOUS!!!]
That and the fact that Wish isn't nominated for any song at all is hilarious to me.
Ironic
@@michaelstrong5383 Ikr, it’s truly amazing 🤣
The only thing that could’ve made it better was if Nimona also got nominated for best adapted screenplay.
Yeah.
Schaff seething with rage while saying "I don't even care anymore" is like when a kid tells you they've stopped crying whilst still crying
So immature
I think he meant that he didn't care about the rest of it anymore
He's so real
@@metroidotherm6170 he’s real for it
He's a whole mood
If I had a nickel for every time animation was disrespected at the Oscars, I'd be a millionaire.
Billionaire, actually.
I don’t know. It wasn’t too bad this year…
@@isiah82104Best Score.
Likewise, but for science-fiction.
No a quadrillion.
The disrespect animation gets from the Oscars is OFF THE CHARTS!
It already peaked with the *"pArEnTs HaVe To EnDuRe ThEm"* BS from two years ago.
The fact that 2 of the best and most mature animated films in recent years came out and they both got nothing is INSULTING
Oscars when animated film exists: 👨🦯
It would have to take a revolution or protest of everyone to get the Academy to acknowledge that animation is cinema and deserved more love this year.
Frr
Seeing Schaff’s bitterness towards Oscar season get stronger and seeing his tone get more and more melancholic over time is kinda like seeing the before and after effects of alcohol abuse.
I guess we’re in for another angry Oscars video from Schaff just like two years ago
@@willpower8289coming from the future, we were in for a suprise
Honestly it seems so poetic how Nimona was cast aside by Disney because it "didn't fit the brand" or whatever the reason was yet it ends up being mostly well received and is nominated for best animated feature yet Wish (Disney's 100th Anniversary film) wasn't XD
As if Disney needed another lesson in hubris lmao
If that's not an example of karma, then I don't know what is.
Disney ALWAYS needs a lesson in hubris because they refuse to learn from their mistakes.
Disney: "I thought you were dead."
Nimona: "My death was greatly exaggerated. 😎"
“It didn’t fit the brand” aka it was too gay.
Meanwhile they patted themselves on the back for having a non binary character in Elemental even though the character isn’t even non binary in the movie, but in the novelization.
A movie set in a modern world mixed with elements of fantasy and medival times would definitely be something up disney's alley.
Daniel Pemberton deserves more recognition for his score on the Spider-Verse movies.
He needed to be nominated instead over the recyclable GARBAGE that was Dial of Destiny’s score
I wish the movies just used his score and didn't bother with licensed music. Simply because the original score is outstanding and the songs plain suck and really pull me out of the movie
@@marcinmcula99the original songs were also amazing too. Am I dreaming got snubbed for best song and I’m pissed about that
It’s as stupid as better call saul not getting a single Emmy
Just goes to show even after last year, the Oscars are still a joke.
The fact Gaurdians 3 was snubbed for the makeup and hairstyling is criminal. It had the most amount of prosthetics in movie history and they all looked amazing mixed with the makeup
I know Comic Book Movies aren't high art, but the number of technical categories they get passed up on is starting to reach Animated Movie levels of disrespect
No it’s a Disney movie and I hate Disney
Especially since the first movie was nominated for makeup!
@@Durtle.lojik
@@Durtle. it ain’t a Disney movie, it’s a James Gunn movie (if that makes sense)
I am the most shocked that across the spiderverse didn't get nominated for best score. That alone sucks but the fact that the dial of destiny was nominated instead really drove the metaphorical knife deeper into my side.
DoD only got nominated because Williams is a dinosaur who'll likely never get nominated again. I know he's a legend, but that's blatant favoritism
@@DepravedCoTApologistSame with Daine Warren.
Wow, that's the guy I remember playing the songs I remember from the movie I remember. Give him the awards
Same with pixar
The way that Spiderverse deserves so many nominations for different categories but because it’s animation it’s deemed less than
Bro (the Academy) think Dial of Destiny is worthy for Mjolnir
"Bro this animation is really good, but its missing one detail: Real People"
Schaffrillas’s really fulfilled some prophecy with that tweet last night. That is so funny and sad.
5:49 is honestly such a funny reaction though. Never thought I’d hear him sound like that.
Schaffrillas goes goblin mode
I had no idea Schaff could summon every demon from hell and channel them into a reaction for the most biased award ceremony in American art history
Schaff does his best Woody impression
That is the most insane Schaffrillas reaction I've ever seen. I've heard him get angry, and I imagine it's somewhat exaggerated, but oh boy, that was strong.
@@nepozepo2”Norman’s on sabbatical, honey.”
I 100% agree with the Spider-Verse scandal, but HOW DID GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY VOL. 3 NOT GET NOMINATED FOR MAKEUP?!?! It broke the record for most prosthetics in a movie, and the whole High Evolutionary mask thing was crazy. They really hate Superhero movies. I’m also pretty sure that the entire set used for Knowhere may have been the biggest set in Marvel movie history?
Martin Scorsese is rubbing off on the Oscars.
@@TheNunchuckChampion I didn’t even really think that for a while, but I’m starting to believe it. From now on, I think I’m just gonna ignore award shows lol
oscar predictor here and I'm here to tell you that it was likely going to happen tbh. before the shortlists dropped, all of us had guardians in #2 or #3 in makeup, and then we actually freaked out when we found out it wasn't eligible on the shortlists for whatever reason. i really don't think martin scorsese is trying to rub off on the oscars lol. i loved guardians 3 and i really did wish it got in, but I'm not surprised. the oscars don't even respect legacy filmmakers in the live-action field.
@@TheNunchuckChampionnot a bad thing…although true efforts to be good get mixed with the general brand recognition that usually shouldn’t get nominated
Rocket is too good for this Awards
If respecting animation was a class, then the Oscar Academy Awards would get a SUPER F!!!
They would definitely be expelled on the first day.
“BEHOLD! My Animation Disrespectinator!” -Dr.Oscarshmirtz
Nah, they would belong in G tier
@@Del-Dokan Nice.
@@Hermitboilover12450 Then suddenly the world of Phineas and Ferb becomes a live action remake
"Best animated feature" is really starting to feel like the Thanksgiving kids table for movies with films like Spider-Verse being the 16 year old who's ready to sit with the adults
Edit: I'm not saying Boy and the Heron doesn't also deserve to move tables, Spider-Verse was just the example I chose
Best comparison I've ever heard, and it's disgusting how true that is.
Ngl people are over exaggerating how good spider verse is. Like spider verse is definitely a good movie, but it’s just not on the level of other films this year like Oppenheimer, Killers of the Flower Moon, and The Holdovers
@michaeltnk1135 Even if you're not a fan of the plot, you can't deny the visual and technical marvel this film is. The animation, editing, sound design, score are all top notch and deserve recognition, but it gets tossed aside just because it's animated
@michaeltnk1135 that sounds like a pretty subjective opinion. Like Ive seen Oppenheimer,killers and spiderverse and its absolutely on the same level to me.
@@michaeltnk1135idk you sound a bit subjective, so it’s not really right to warrant that statement
“What was the makeup in Oppenheimer” is a very funny sentence
Agree
I mean. It was just their faces, wasn't it?
Especially snubbing GOTG
I mean, they did do a pretty big makeover at Japan at the end of the movie...
It had some of the absolute best aging makeup in all of cinema
This nomination kinda pissed me off because i remember being actually dissapointed with the characterization😂 there's that one speech scene where he's hallucinating a nuclear bomb victim but that ,,victim" just looks like she didn't use sunscreen. Literally just skin kinda peeled off. I was like damn, people were getting evaporated in hiroshima and that's the best they could come up with?
Gotg 3 literally has a WORLD RECORD for most makeup and prosthetics in a movie, yet it isn’t nominated for best makeup and hairstyling
Edit: I understand that just because it has the most doesn’t make it the best. But it’s still REALLY impressive and (in my opinion) looks way better than some of the other movies. If you’ve seen the movie you’d know
Most and best are not the same thing. I'm not saying it shouldn't have been nominated, but the fact that it had the most makeup and prosthetics out of any movie shouldn't be the deciding factor.
it's BEST makeup and hairstyling, not MOST. learn the difference
Following that logic, Cats should have been nominated for Best Special Effects
Wow, I did not know that. I’m actually rooting for Guardians to win. none of the previous Guardians films won an Oscar before so so it would be nice if this one did
@@jd1800you say that... But take a look at the best editing category for the past decade. Best editing should be 'most' editing.
The fact that John Williams got 54 nominations and none of them were for The Phantom Menace or Revenge of the Sith tells you all you need to know about that category
The fact that John Williams didn't win for Prisoner of Azkaban in 2004 when it was the best of his Harry Potter work (and all the HP soundtracks), didn't share many features with the Prequels unlike HP 1and 2 which he scored at the same time, and explored Renaissance-style themes and instrumentation was so unserious of the Academy.
@@Asimigiovani "Return of the King" didn't win against "Prisoner of Azkaban". They came out in different years. POA instead lost to "Finding Neverland"
Hot take: Attack Of The Clones has the worst score from all SW films--it's decent with tracks like Across The Stars, the Coruscant chase music and (of course) the ending theme, but other than that not everything is too memorable... in comparison, even the minor cues from Revenge Of The Sith (which can be found in the complete soundtrack) was what made me discover Star Wars music in the first place
@@MariOmor1Rise of Skywalker is still having the worst score.
James himself should get an Oscar for that performance of himself turning to the Green Goblin for Spiderverse not being nominated for best score
I offered *Yew* -friendship- original score and you spat in my face
He aged backwards into a child throwing a temper tantrum.
I love how Schaff turns into Golem or something for like 5 seconds after it's revealed Spiderverse didn't get a nomination for og score, and then just spouts a fugking anime villain monologue 😅
I was gonna comment that
That was Saul Goodman
“I am calm”
Five seconds later
“LIGHTNING BOLTS SHOOT FROM MY FINGER TIPS”
The Across the Spider-Verse soundtrack is so damn good, it absolutely should have gotten an original score nomination. Since the movie released, I've listened to the soundtrack regularly and so much of it is absolutely fantastic.
Good for you 😊 But unfortunalety we live in a time where they just don’t care about animation in the slightest. Love what is good , hate what is bad , that’s all you need to know.
The Boy and the Heron and Spider-Verse both should’ve gotten into Original Score over Killers and Indiana Jones.
Keep in mind, these are the same people who gave Rise of frickin' Skywalker a nom for "Original" Score. It's John Williams bias, just like their Disney bias on animation (though Wish was snubbed, lol).
Even John Powell in Migration could‘ve gotten a nomination, it’s peak adventure/comedy score.
Was it really that good of a score?
@@stephendayrit4483wish wasnt snubbed wish is just bad
killers deserved score
Schaff singing I’m Just Ken is probably the most wholesome thing in the world.
Then, he proceeds to trash the Academy for nominating Indy over Spider-Verse for Best Score
@@RSG_TheMonsterAnd he’s based for it.
The Spider-Verse score snub frustrates me so much. Daniel Pemberton put SO MUCH love, experimentation, and creativity into that score. it had every right to get nominated but it just wasn't
I'm so sick of animated films getting nominations outside of best animated feature once in a blue moon. It shows you just how little they actually care about animation and it sucks.
It’s even for animated short films because outside of Disney, Pixar, Looney Tunes, Tom and Jerry and Wallace & Gromit most of the nominated and wins aren’t available or badly need film restorations.
Experimentation? Examples?
@@crazyfire9470Did you even watch the movie?
@@crazyfire9470 There’s a mini-series on Sony Animation’s official YT channel with Pemberton going over the process of creating certain pieces in the score
No I haven’t, I was genuinely asking
Ladies and gentlemen: animation is cinema.
Yeah, the new Paw Patrol movie is peak cinema. It's rated PG so that's how you know it's cool. Sometimes the dogs are scared and there's even a fake-out death. It's almost as good as The Bad Guys (2022)
EDIT: Does no one understand irony
(we still aren't going to nominate animated films outside of best animated feature lul)
@@A-Ner2 *throws a tantrum*
@Ninja_4561 ?
@@Ninja_4561🤦
This year's awards show might as well be called "Oppenheimer 'n Friends"
Or "Barbie & Oppenheimer with Friends"
"Barbenheimer & Company"
"The Barben club"
Friends include: Poor Things! The Holdovers! Barbie! Killers of the Flower Moon! And American Fiction!
And "Napoleon" as the wacky next-door neighbor!
Once again, animated films have been snubbed in all but one category. Daniel Pemberton's phenomenal score deserves so much more praise and recognition. At least Nimona was rightfully nominated for Best Animated Feature instead of Wish.
You got that right.
That score is phenomenal!! It's absolutely criminal how it wasn't nominated!!
Wish is overrated, meanwhile spiderverse is underrated I wish more people appreciated it more than wish and elemental
Not enough people are talking about Joe Hisaishi's score for The boy and the heron. It should've earned his first nomination as well.
There was a time the Academy recognised the animated movies in other categories. Now they're all stuck with just one award, even though these films have done far better with critics and fans.
“It had sound” has got to be the single best way to describe how little of an impact Maestro made
His freaking “YOUUUUUUU” was hilarious
That's the trouble with yeeee!
Godzilla Minus One definitely should've been nominated for more Oscar's than just the visual effects, the acting, score, sound design were all amazing in their own right
“ I am calm, I am calm, I am
Calm” - the most uncalm version of Schaff we’ve seen in awhile
"I am calm" - Schaff said calmly
John Williams really sent his Spotify playlist with his scores to the director and got nominated 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Rise of Skywalker’s Music score in a nutshell
The only nom I actually cared about was Godzilla Minus One because of how it's such a milestone for not just the franchise but for the history of Japanese special effects films
Also you going wild over the original score noms had me rolling
Japan was in charge of sending it in, and at least Japan got a nomination. Have you seen Perfect Days?
@thomasffrench3639 I haven't.
I was more so referring to the vfx nomination being of significance, especially since Japanese sfx films have always been looked down upon in America
@@Jman1995100 oh shit I completely forgot it was nominated. Sorry
@@thomasffrench3639 nah, you're good
Yeah me too And animation.
“What was the makeup in Oppenheimer?”
I take that as a compliment to the team that the old age makeup looked so good that you didn’t even clock it as makeup.
I think the Hollywood elitists who vote for the Oscars are mad that animators making “kids films” make better movies than them with their “adult dramas”. It’s the only reason I can think of why the Masterpiece that was Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse got nominated for ONLY ONE
Yeah.
There have only been three animated movies that have been nominated for Best Picture: Beauty and the Beast, Up, and Toy Story 3. In that same time period they actually did recognise animated movies outside of Best Animated, usually for the music. Also, in the same Oscars the live-action Disney princesses made that speech belittling these "kids movies", Flee, an adult documentary was nommed for Best Animated.
Meh, the first Spiderverse movie was better. I genuinely do not consider ATSV a “masterpiece”.
I’m way more pissed that Joe Hisaishi wasn’t nominated for best score.
This is up there with Boss Baby beating A Silent Voice in the oscars 😭
that was the year of the captain underpants snub too. i will never forgive them
BOSS BABY DID SOMETHING???????????
@@eggsandbacon892 Hey! Welcome to your first day on Earth! Lemme show you around!
ehhh. a silent voice was fantastic, but it realistically never stood a chance due to the nature of its release. the lego batman movie, however, was a mainstream hollywood movie that everyone saw and loved and that somehow also missed out in the same year??? that's truly the most egregious snub.
honestly if you replaced the boss baby and ferdinand with a silent voice and lego batman you'd have a peak lineup.
I like to think that any time James gets frustrated about something in his everyday life he just breaks into that Saul Goodman monologue
John Williams literally has more Oscars than any other living person. You don't need to keep nominating him, Academy!
No, that's Alan Menken, followed by Dennis Muren (the latter has 3 additional honorary awards as well)
Well, I still think he deserves them
@@paulytheking7365over across the spiderverse?????
@@imnotakingimnotagodiam..ab9455I think they meant that williams deserves the oscars he got, not this particular nomination
I don't think I've ever heard venom in your voice quite like 5:49. YEWWWW MUDAFUKAS
It’s a contender with Toads Turnpike. 😂
I think Schaf went through all stages of grief because of Spider-Verse not being nominated, which I think we all did ngl 😂
The one thing from this year that they get right is Godzilla Minus One getting an award for best visuals; since even on the reported budget of $15 million, with the director saying that the movie was less than the reported cost, so around the $10-$12 million, still looks exponentially better than what hollywood has been doing for the last few years.
Yes
Even in the Annie Awards (Academy Awards for Animation) Wish didn't got a SINGLE nomination but Nimona got plenty of nominations in different categories.
5:49 I think James just turned into Gollum for a second there!
James used Explosion. It's Super Effective! The Oscars fainted. James Fainted.
Gollum.
No he turned into a TNT block
Animation is cinema. It pisses me off that the academy refuses to recognize its impact
Especially with last year having Across the Spiderverse and Boy and the Heron, 2 of the most MATURE AND MASTERFUL ANIMATED FILMS IN RECENT YEARS got NOTHING outside of its designated category is deplorable
@@Mr_bukowski4435Yeah! Even Across the Spider Verse deserved to be nominated for Best Picture!! No kidding!!
@@Mr_bukowski4435the problem is that most of the Academy literally don’t know shit about animation. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy
🎵I wish that I could be like the cool kids, 'cause all the cool kids, they seem to fit in, I wish that I could be like the could kids, like the cool kids🎵
It’s even worse for animated short films most of them you cannot find anywhere it’s shocking how hard they are to access.
You know what the Oscars should do if they want my attention? Right before they give the Best Picture award, they should have an orchestra play a medley of themes from all the Best Picture nominees like the Game Awards does. That’s basically the only thing the Game Awards consistently does well, so it wouldn’t hurt the Oscars to rip them off.
That and flute guy
Spiderverse deserved Best Picture, Screenplay, VFX, Score, etc. The Academy snubbing it by not including it in its nominations is unforgivable. It's like they flat-out ignored and disrespected Guillermo Del Torro in his speech last year when he said Animation is a medium and not a genre. It would have to take a worldwide revolution and protest to remind the Academy to take back their mistake and acknowledge that Animation is Art and should be celebrated.
Minus One deserves VFX award, absolutely put Hollywood to shame on a 15 million dollar budget.
Best Picture or Screenplay...... nah
it's a good movie but chill out, the competition is very strong. How is Spiderverse's score better than Oppenheimer's or Poor Things's
@@lultimodeilancelot3990But Indiana Jones deserves it more? Really?
Maybe for Best VFX, but I don’t know about Best Picture or Score (although I don’t think John Williams should’ve been nominated, either). But, then again, if the Oscars is going to give nominations to films like “Napoleon” and “Indiana Jones: The Dial Of Destiny”, and nominate “Barbie” for Best Picture (not saying that it’s a bad film since I haven’t seen it yet, but it doesn’t quite fit the mold of an “Oscar-worthy film”), then it wouldn’t hurt to also nominate “Across The Spider-Verse” and “The Boy And The Heron” for Best Picture. Both of these films fit the mold of an “Oscar-worthy” Best Picture nomination better than a film like “Barbie” does due to the drama and mature themes in those films, in my opinion. I think Joe Hisaishi should’ve been nominated for Best Original Score, in my opinion.
So two things:
A) I would probably have been much more upset by Margot Robbie being snubbed if this wasn't so clearly Lily Gladstone's year to win it
B) I laughed so fucking hard at your reaction when they announced the soundtrack nominations, it's great getting to see that Oscar rage in other people
“YOU ARE A BACTERIUM TO ME” using this now thanks schaff
That GOTG 3 didn’t get nominated for makeup is a crime
Schaffs downright villanous hissing of "yyyyYYYYYOOOOU" is so real for every spiderverse fan
Schaffrilas turning into Palpatine when Spiderverse didn’t get nominated was not on my bingo card today lol
Me when they nominated Godzilla Minus One: FINALLY THEY RECOGNIZE CINEMA!!!
Spiderverse's OST is too good for this schlock.
Bro went from "I don't care anymore" to "oooohh, Nimona" :o. It's kinda funny
Because Nimona is a blast, much more than modern Disney could try to attempt.
When Spiderverse didn’t get nominated for score James morphed into Gollum😂
The reaction for original score noms was the most terrifying noises i ever heard you make
On the one hand, I absolutely love all the attention Oppenheimer is getting, as it absolutely deserves it. On the other, HOW IN THE WORLD DID ACROSS THE SPIDER VERSE NOT EVEN GET NOMINATED FOR BEST ORIGINAL SCORE?
Should it have?
@@crazyfire9470 Let me put it this way. Across the Spider Verse WAS my favorite soundtrack of 2023, no contest. It's the only one that I actively listened to outside of the movie.
Ok?
No Killers of the Flower Moon for screenplay genuinely is insane. Totally agree with you
Nah it didn’t get it because it butchered the original text and the Academy knows it. Personally so hate the film, but obviously many people think it’s fantastic. But to get nominated for best adaption you have to actually adapt the text well.
@TheParchedFilms i dont know much about the source material so ill take your word for it. Fair enough i suppose
Man, you can feel the absolute HATRED Schaff has for Dial of Destiny.
I thought the movie was okay, but it must be absolutely EGREGIOUS in his eyes.
That shit was so ass bro. Me and my family immediately got home and watched Crystal Skull since my cousin kept saying that at least it wasn’t as bad as that. Turns out it was worse.
As a non fan of Indiana Jones, it was boring. I forgot it even existed until now.
@@tallerwarrior1256Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is much worse. Maybe up until the point where it's revealed that Mutt is Indiana's son you could argue it's better, but afterwards it's terrible. Dial of Destiny is just mid through and through.
@@jd1800
Dial had such a convoluted and idiotic story, none of the main characters and antagonists were interesting or compelling, and even on the technical side it failed miserably. Crystal Skull on the other hand has a fairly well constructed story that celebrates the Indiana Jones legacy, most of the characters are all fairly compelling or at least entertaining, and the technical aspects are all good except for the CGI. Crystal Skull just got a lot of flack because of the fact that it was succeeding one of the greatest cinematic trilogies and didn’t reach the standard of any of the past three movies. The reason why many people think Dial is mid is because the movie literally doesn’t do anything. None of the characters grow and it follows the cliche trope of out of touch old man needing to move on and let go of the past (literally). There’s no substance, style, or entertainment. The only saving Grace Dial has are the first 15-20 minutes of the movie with young Indy at the end of the war, that’s it.
@@tallerwarrior1256 Dial of Destiny's antagonist isn't iconic or anything, but he was easily more compelling than Spalko, probably because it was Mads Mikkelsen. None of the characters, as cliché as they were, were worse than Mac or Willie from Temple of Doom. The movie never had anything as cringeworthy as the refrigerator nuke scene, or Mutt catching up to a speeding vehicle by swinging from vine to vine with an army of monkeys. It didn't have the awful color grading Kingdom of the Crystal Skull had up until 2021 that made everything look ugly as sin. Also, this is just personal preference, but the antikythera mechanism is a much better choice of artifact than a crystal skull.
John Williams score was amazing in dial of destiny,
I loved it when the people actually in charge of score said “it’s John Williams time” and then they used John Williams old tunes all over the poace
I love John Williams, he really is a legend, but c’mon, Dial of Destiny’s score was super forgettable.
I physically screeched when Nimona and Spiderverse got nominated and I think my upstairs neighbors heard it oops
Godzilla Minus One getting nominated for literally anything was all I wanted this year, so I’m still happy about this.
My Dad went to go see Napoleon without me, but when he was initially inviting me to go watch it, for whatever reason he accidentally referred to the movie as "Ceasar"
From now on I will only refer to the movie as Ceasar lmaooo
I cannot get over the fact that not only was Daniel Pemberton & Spiderverse not nominated for Original Score but neither was Joe Hisaishi for the Boy & the Heron?! But Indiana Jones??? Blasphemy
It's the f****** Academy, that's why.
it just proves that anytime a icon is up they will get through on name power and nothing else
5:49 HIS REACTION I’M DYING 😂
Spoiler: At least Indiana Jones didn’t win the Oscar for best score. James must be so happy by now.
I like how you were yelling at the screen in rage but the two guys up there are just smiling and not caring at all.
9:19 As a Kaiju fan, I’m proud of this moment. It truly was the best Kaiju film ever.
The first Godzilla film in his 70 Year history to EVER be nominated for an Oscar
James getting so mad to the point where he becomes saul goodman is one of the funniest things I have ever seen
5:49, I couldn't even fathom that you could produce such frequecies form your throat
I wonder when the oscars will finally acknowledge animated movies as actual movies which csn be nominated for other categories
Across the SpiderVerse is my 2nd favorite film of all time next to Prince of Egypt. The fact it got nominated for nothing but animated feature kinda presses my buttons.
You gotta watch more movies then. SpiderVerse is good, but Oppenheimer, Killers of the Flower Moon, and The Holdovers are all better
Still should of gotten nominated for best score instead of Indiana Jones
The Oscars: “Animated films don’t count as actual films.”
SpongeBob: Hmmm? (shows Spider-Verse)
Academy: Oh that's not so much!
SpongeBob: Hmmmmm? (shows The Boy and the Heron)
Academy: So?
SpongeBob: Hmmmmmm? (shows Nimona)
HMMMMMMMMMM???? (shows Robot Dreams)
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM????????
(opens window to show TMNT: Mutant Mayhem)
Academy: 😬
The Oscars: and as for documentaries especially those short films…
cricket noises…
I like how it sounded like Schaff was disgusted at Jack Quaid personally.
Schaff's only opinion on Godzilla that I've ever heard is that it's nice it was nominated for something. I'll take that as a win.
He gave it an 8/10 on Letterboxd btw
The ost rant made my day a bit better, thanks
Oscars, can you respect Animation as a whole, FOR FIVE MINUTES?!
I am so confused how Joe Hisaishi did not get nominated for The Boy and The Heron, the score was amazing!
Dude is one of the greatest composers in film history. Tragic he'll likely never get an Oscar.
Godzilla only receiving a VFX nomination, when it at least deserved a best actor, supporting actress, score, and possibly even a Best Picture nomination, is so disappointing.
Between the dark crystal and spiderverse Daniel Pemberton has been in my top 5 artists for YEARS and definitely deserved to at least be nominated. The intro and Start A Band are so iconic already and even less important tracks like Guggenheim Assemble have so so much thought put into them
the irony that gerwig and robbie were snobbed in the directing and lead actor categories but ryan gosling did get nom'ed for supporting role lmfao
The Academy Awards desparately need an "Adapted Score" category if shit like "Dial of Destiny" and "Rise of Skywalker win, yet "Across the Spider-Verse" and "Avenger's Endgame" don't.
Oh, and if they aren't going to nominate Animated films for anything else, they need to give them more categories, like for Voice Acting, Score, and Directing.
Fwiw the Annie Awards have voice acting/directing/score awards
It's so weird. Last years Oscars were great. They did *everything* right. Only to turn around and completely blow it. Hooray for Hollywood!
Overall, this is a perfectly fine nomination list. One of two big snubs but that happens every year.
Spider-Verse could have easily been included in Best Song, Score, Editing, Visual Effects and Adapted Screenplay
WatchMojo ranked this as the no. 1 movie of 2023
Especially visual effects
5:48
Hearing Schaff going full goblin mode was so unexpected
Back to formula? (Formula as in, they don't give a shit about what they nom or snub)
@@stephendayrit4483 Wouldn’t say back to that formula, because they’ve never left it once it started
Godzilla not getting nomination for best picture is a crime
Godzilla Minus One should have been nominated for International
Countries are allowed to select only one movie in that category, this year Japan selected Perfect Days (And it got nominated)
Sorry Schaff, but since John Williams is very very old and scored Jurassic Park the Academy thinks he needs to be nominated every year he is alive, even for re-used music, Oppenheimer's a lock though so it don't matter. Also I'm putting a tax on everyone currently commenting "Animation is Cinema" to watch Blue Eye Samurai before you do that, cause I'm not confident you ain't just all talking about Trolls 3.
Maybe they're doing this to try and atone for them not nominating his score for Jurassic Park (I mean he still got nominated and won for Schindler's List the same year, but the point still stands )
I don’t know of a single person that thinks “Trolls 3” should be nominated for Best Animated Feature, let alone any Oscar nomination. Although, I have heard people say the Mario movie should’ve been nominated for Best Animated Feature, which I don’t agree with all.
@@BirdsandGhibliFan yeah im calling out everyone claiming "animation is cinema" but they wont watch anything except kids movies
schaffrillas becoming low tier god for 14 minutes straight
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one that thought once upon a studio was gonna get nominated.
It pisses me off so much that an incredible film like Spider-Verse got nominated for less Oscars than the mediocre Napoleon. And it pisses me off even more that Spider-Verse and Indiana Jones 5 have the same amount of nominations!!!!
Here’s something that’ll make Schaff cheer up, Dial of Destiny got 2 Razzie nominations this year, one for Worst Remake and one for Worst Screenplay.
He should react to the Razzies
5:49 Schafrillas live Gollum transformation.
Or Bilbo in Rivendell, when he sees the Ring.
I love how even when he's mad, Schaff still finds time to say references.
Schaff's ad libbed rant starting with 5:36 is genuinely one of my favorite bits to ever come out of him
It's not ad libbed, it's quoted from Better Call Saul when Jimmy goes off at Howard
5:49 what is that voice 😂
This has to be the biggest shift I’ve ever seen- We went from hating the Oscars for picking Indiana Jones to “Oh they were smart, cool!”
the RAGE in that moment. i felt that in my bones
Sad that the one universally loved thing Disney did this year didn’t even get nominated 😢
I doubt they even watched it
Pretty funny actually
@NebulaRanger Still wish it had chance to be nominated though
@@ceve once upon a studio