The why behind not loading your MP5 with the bolt forward

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  • @The_Real_Zaineman
    @The_Real_Zaineman Рік тому +2

    I am a new owner of an MP5. Bolt back-loading makes perfect sense. I really appreciate your videos as a new owner to this weapon system. I always learn something I did not know. Thanks again.

  • @ptrthgr8
    @ptrthgr8 3 роки тому +21

    That's actually very interesting and informative. I've always loaded mags into my HK/Vector/CETME firearms with the bolt locked back, but entirely because I love the slap. But now I know there's a practical reason for enjoying the slap, too! Thank you!

    • @aarondyer7666
      @aarondyer7666 7 місяців тому

      That would be gun abuse to any other weapon.
      No tactical advantage to the slap but seems super necessary.

  • @nelsonr1467
    @nelsonr1467 10 місяців тому +5

    So if i wanted the mp5 in a cruiser ready status meaning loaded mag but empty chamber, I would need to load a mag to 28 correct?

  • @hoosiercarry1149
    @hoosiercarry1149 11 місяців тому +1

    I jumped all over the ZF-5 Premium Package and what a great deal
    it turned out to be! No regrets here after 600+ rounds and many more to come!

  • @trailertrashtactics
    @trailertrashtactics Рік тому +1

    Having some feeding issues with my make ap5. Came across your videos looking for solutions. Really informative video. Thank you!

  • @1911syndicate
    @1911syndicate 3 роки тому +50

    I will never even think about a bolt forward reload again. The thought disgusts me

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  3 роки тому +12

      A fellow sophisticate of taste and manner.

    • @546people
      @546people 3 роки тому

      If a 1911 guy can learn the right way there is hope for me. Do I hear a cheap mp5 challenge? Lol

    • @rickycolston7861
      @rickycolston7861 3 роки тому +2

      I threw up in my mouth just thinking about it

  • @beatsnblyats1680
    @beatsnblyats1680 3 роки тому +17

    Oh my goodness this is going to save me so much time typing this out in comments. ❤️

  • @IDontLikeAltRock
    @IDontLikeAltRock 3 роки тому +71

    You didn’t even mention the most important reason: the HK slap itself.

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  3 роки тому +18

      A different, but also essential topic for another day. Lots of opportunity to work on that at our MP5 Operator Course.

    • @Jachammer93
      @Jachammer93 3 роки тому +2

      My duty mp5 has a aimpoint wich blocks the slap 😭

    • @JTM
      @JTM 3 роки тому +1

      @@Jachammer93 my aimpoint is on a low mount and I have no issue slapping that thing...unless you have a k model?

  • @1982rrose
    @1982rrose 11 місяців тому +2

    Bolt forward, what an alien concept. Mind you I learned bolt back from Phil Singleton at HK

  • @MCBD915
    @MCBD915 3 роки тому +2

    Pretty top notch explanation. Makes a lot of sense from several standpoints.

  • @dexm2010
    @dexm2010 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you for making this video. A lot of people will benefit from this information.

  • @adamg574
    @adamg574 3 роки тому +16

    The MP5 is likely my favourite firearm of all time. So smooth in full auto as well, and very easy to shoot accurately. Wish I could own one up here in Canada or at least a clone.

    • @pauliedweasel
      @pauliedweasel 2 роки тому +6

      Adam, I was born in Ontario but moved to the US at a very young age. Come join us here in the states. I spent 64 years of my 68 in California before giving up and moving to the central highlands of Arizona where we still some semblance of freedom left… just sayin’.

    • @jonnyfontane3607
      @jonnyfontane3607 2 роки тому +3

      come to switzerland, you can buy almost every gun over here :D

    • @leodoingthings1706
      @leodoingthings1706 2 роки тому +1

      i had it as my service gun and i hated it just because of these reload bullshit issues. And safety is increadible hard to pushdown, so sometimes on shooting courses you go from safety to burst or full auto. mp5 goes to trash imo

    • @DSM-114
      @DSM-114 2 роки тому

      @@jonnyfontane3607 really?

    • @jonnyfontane3607
      @jonnyfontane3607 2 роки тому

      @@DSM-114 really

  • @jeremysiegel10
    @jeremysiegel10 3 роки тому +4

    Thank you! I've always said this and people just didn't think it was an issue
    You've inspired me to do my own sort of video on something similar

  • @CarlosIowa
    @CarlosIowa 2 роки тому

    Thank You. Explains the pulling the bolt back before removing the empty mag and swapping in a fresh loaded one.

  • @WolfBiteTactical
    @WolfBiteTactical 2 роки тому

    Great Video. Just purchased my first MP5 clone and absorbing any information out there. Thanks for the lesson, well done.

  • @RobertSmith-hr6cr
    @RobertSmith-hr6cr Рік тому

    That's very interesting and informative, i will stop doing that and from now on I'll lock the bolt to the rear whenever I'm reloading mine. By the way all of your HK swag is absolutely awesome love it.

  • @roughneckmp
    @roughneckmp 2 роки тому

    I got into the habit of locking the bolt to the rear when operating my TommyBuilt Tactical KSM (Semi-auto UMP45), so when I finally got a roller locker I was already in that habit. However this video is very informative and explains in detail why it’s done the way it is. Plus it’s so enjoyable to do “the HK slap” for some reason.

  • @KhanTrav
    @KhanTrav 2 роки тому +1

    I love this channel, thank you very much for sharing your knowledge. I am in the market for new mags for our guns and I did not consider new springs. I am learning a lot from you.

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks. The continued positive feedback makes the effort worthwhile.

  • @Crangaso
    @Crangaso 3 роки тому +2

    Great video. Love the TTP: Certainty over probability!

  • @TheOVprodigy
    @TheOVprodigy 10 місяців тому +1

    If I were to run an mp5 for home defense how would you recommend it be stored?
    1. Loaded to 30, chambered, and safety on(and is it drop safe?)
    2. Loaded to 28, magazine in with an empty chamber, run the bolt when the time comes
    3. 30 round magazine inserted with bolt locked back(would that be hard on any parts over time?)
    4. Unloaded with a magazine next to it

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  10 місяців тому

      #4

    • @TheOVprodigy
      @TheOVprodigy 10 місяців тому

      @@teufelshundtactical thank you, not necessarily the answer I would have expected

  • @peterostrovsky7142
    @peterostrovsky7142 Рік тому

    Great video explanation. In addition to preventing damage to your firearms, I also believe that it has to do with economy of motion when reloading that firearm.

  • @FancyGothicKnight88
    @FancyGothicKnight88 3 роки тому +8

    Perfect! Just in time to watch while I eat this Bojangles meal lol xD

  • @grandosprey6450
    @grandosprey6450 2 роки тому

    Perfect explanation. Just what I was looking for. Thanks!

  • @dangerousfreedom4965
    @dangerousfreedom4965 2 роки тому +1

    What about the thumb tap versus the Palm slap?

  • @MarkCartret
    @MarkCartret 10 місяців тому +1

    Common sense alone dictates if it doesn’t fit, do not force it. Thank you for a review with a simplified explanation of a practical reason. So just enjoy the slap on the weapon you won’t enjoy if you slap your girlfriend or wife.

  • @johndeere1951a
    @johndeere1951a 3 роки тому +1

    Wonder if the Owner's Manual states "bolt back !"
    Driver error poor excuse if the Manual is clear on proper operation.
    Excellent concise explaination ✌️👍🇺🇲

  • @AshyGr33n
    @AshyGr33n 9 місяців тому

    One thing I still don''t quite get - if the feed pawl is grazing the top of the magazine/crushing the ammo back into the mag, then how does the gun cycle by itself? When the bolt is pulling a shell back from the chamber, is the bolt rotated to a different position that allows it to travel back freely?

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  9 місяців тому

      The bolt does not rotate and does not have any problem moving back. It comes to rest above the magazine, where it is sitting directly above it. Moving back for extraction and ejection then allows the next bullet to be presented at the top of the magazine for the feed pawl to intercept it again during its movement back forward again.

  • @Largecanyondog
    @Largecanyondog 2 місяці тому

    Tho is something I learned immediately upon my first 2 mags owning an MP5

  • @d0mochi
    @d0mochi 10 місяців тому

    I do both especially when there is still a round in the chamber just putting a fresh top off mag. I do use precision overwatch mags filled 30/32 to have room in spring tension

  • @DCW020905
    @DCW020905 2 роки тому

    Great information, thanks for sharing.

  • @KCDS
    @KCDS 8 місяців тому

    Does the same principle apply to all other non-beltfed HK roller-delay guns as well?

  • @tmaddrummer
    @tmaddrummer 3 роки тому

    Very well presented Sir, especially because it's all factual. I am now a subscriber..... Thanks and Blessings!

  • @gunrunner35
    @gunrunner35 2 роки тому

    Awesome and thank you. Great info.

  • @vyoufinder
    @vyoufinder 2 роки тому +2

    So, just to be clear, if I load 28 rounds into a magazine which I then load with the bolt forward, is this risking damaging my bolt? I like to keep a loaded magazine (28/30 would do though) in the weapon, but nothing in the chamber and ready. This way I have the warning of the rack and slap, while not feeling uneasy about having one in the chamber or to the converse, not being ready. Is loading 28 a good strategy for me without risking damaging my bolt or problems loading the first round?

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  2 роки тому

      In that way, the magazine will seat, but if you slam the mag in, the feed lips can make contact with the bolt. Done repeatedly, with force, can damage the feed lips (probably more than damage the bolt).

    • @vyoufinder
      @vyoufinder 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@teufelshundtactical Thanks for the reply. I tried it a few times after posting, and I think I can feel that it's not good. At least I suppose there are worse things than damaging a magazine. What do you recommend for someone in my situation; who wants it ready, but not dangerously so. One in the chamber and use the safety? Bolt back, magazine in awaiting a slap into action if necessary? It seems any of these methods will be causing wear on something. I've watched several of your videos and taken several tidbits of your information and worked it into my own defense strategy. You have some of, if not the most thorough and accurate videos regarding the MP5/clones and series out there, so it is very much appreciated. I think my needs are different from what you typically instruct for since I am wanting to be ready for bad guys coming in rather than preparing to go in after bad guys.

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  2 роки тому +1

      @@vyoufinder Either keep it loaded (round in chamber) or unloaded with mag out but with the gun.

    • @vyoufinder
      @vyoufinder 2 роки тому +1

      @@teufelshundtactical Roger Dodger. Thanks. Now I can get on with more practicing and less researching.

    • @jkalash762
      @jkalash762 2 роки тому +1

      To be clear, you can load 28 or 29 and put it in the gun without any problem. Just don't beat it to get it to lock in. There's no difference in you manually loading round 29 from the mag or the action doing the work during the cycle of operations while shooting it. The crunchiness is normal on all removable mag fed firearms. It's just more noticable with double stack double feed mags and most 9mm due to the shape of the bullet and how high the lips have to be to hold tension on the cartridge until the bolt is traveling back to the front. With Glock this isn't as noticable because of the angle the mag is holding the top round at. It allows for a lot more clearance so there's very little that rubs the slide. Now on an ar or a freshly built ak you will feel it much more because of the clearances at the top of the feed lips in relation to the bolt/bcg base. Don't worry about wearing out springs with loaded mags that sit either or the mag release spring. Springs with 0 tension are more likely to develop issues over time than one kept under tension, which is the natural rest state for a compression spring.

  • @TheOVprodigy
    @TheOVprodigy 11 місяців тому +1

    No tactical reload on a closed bolt either?
    Also, with the more complicated reload technique on an MP5, wouldn’t it just be faster to go to your secondary in an emergency reload situation? But what do I know my mp5 experience is exclusively from call of duty

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  11 місяців тому

      I explain in the video why you don’t reload with the bolt forward. And yes, transitioning is always faster than reloading and is the recommendation regardless of the weapon in a CQB environment, which is where the MP5 is intended to be used.

  • @boxywest2963
    @boxywest2963 3 роки тому +2

    Great video. Doesn’t Mike (GT) also advise against doing the HK slap? I could be mistaken.

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  3 роки тому +5

      Thanks. Some people think the slap is wasted movement and for efficiency, simply moving your thumb up from where it just seated the mag and pressing the charging Ha doe down is advantageous.

  • @Deathunter761
    @Deathunter761 2 роки тому

    Is it possible to make a tactical reload to a pistol then ? What does allow a pistol with the slide forward to accept a fully loaded magazine ?

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  2 роки тому

      I often see challenges with people getting a fully loaded mag to seat with the slide forward. Requires more force or takes a second attempt.

    • @Deathunter761
      @Deathunter761 2 роки тому

      @@teufelshundtactical Sad, you will find me childish but I thought pistol tactical reloads were as smouth as they are in Call of Duty.
      Thank you for the videos it's very interesting.

  • @noquartergiven7789
    @noquartergiven7789 3 роки тому +1

    So is it not possible to do a tactical reload on an MP5 if you have mags loaded with 30 rounds? In other words if you want to replace a partially used magazine with a fresh one do you have to also sacrifice the chambered round?

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  3 роки тому

      It’s about certainty over probability. With variations on mags and conditions of mag springs, whether or not you loaded 30 or weren’t paying attention and actually jammed a 31st round in, the only way to be certain that the mag will lock in the first time, every time is to lock the bolt back first. If you don’t mind having to make multiple attempts during a reload, then by all means, adopt a bolt forward reload.

    • @noquartergiven7789
      @noquartergiven7789 3 роки тому +1

      @@teufelshundtactical Mostly just curious how a tactical reload goes down. I was guessing that you would lock the bolt back and sacrifice the chambered round but wasn't totally sure. I don't have any experience on the platform. Thanks for taking the time to answer.

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  3 роки тому +1

      @@noquartergiven7789 I would highly recommend you come to one of our Operator Courses, as you’ll be running the weapons incredibly proficiently in no time.
      But to answer your question, I teach several different techniques and explain the advantages and disadvantages of each and then let the students decide which one they favor the most. For beginners, I recommend “Off, Back, On, Forward” for both proactive and reactive reloads. The first step being to remove the magazine (Off), then pulling back and locking e charging handle in the up position (Back), then inserting the new magazine (On), and finally releasing the charging handle forward (Forward).

  • @CyphR1
    @CyphR1 2 роки тому

    Thank you for this Mp5 education.

  • @leerx7015
    @leerx7015 Рік тому +1

    can this be applied to my Hk51?

  • @jeffberg9522
    @jeffberg9522 3 роки тому

    Always very informative; thank you!

  • @masonbarney2055
    @masonbarney2055 2 роки тому

    So what if you are midway through a mag (still got a round in the chamber) and you want to top off your gun with a fresh full mag. Would you pull the charging handle back even though there’s already a round in the chamber?

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  2 роки тому +1

      Yes. The thought process is "certainty over probability". I'm giving up the probability that there is still a round in the chamber for the certainty of 30 by pulling the charging handle back every time I load.

  • @qpOffBeatPanda999
    @qpOffBeatPanda999 Рік тому

    I have a question about the mp5. Does the bolt always have to be to rear even if there is one left in the chamber when you reload a fresh mag?

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  Рік тому

      As explained in the video, the design is for bolt to be open during reloads. It’s the only way to be certain that the mag will seat and that there will be a round in the chamber. But yes, if you want to, you can reload with the bolt closed.

    • @qpOffBeatPanda999
      @qpOffBeatPanda999 Рік тому

      @Teufelshund Tactical Thank you for explaining again. My friend was convinced that it would be faster/easier to reload with the bolt closed.

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  Рік тому

      @@qpOffBeatPanda999 Faster, yes. More reliable, no.

  • @toniostyle
    @toniostyle 3 роки тому

    Thanks for another great video.

  • @Terrato45
    @Terrato45 3 роки тому

    Great explanation as always. Thank you!

  • @PastaLaVista.
    @PastaLaVista. 3 роки тому

    Never knew what that was called on the bolt. Had an issue there with an aftermarket glock slide. Feed pawl. Nice.

  • @tech4976
    @tech4976 3 роки тому

    Great explanation! Thank you.

  • @T-rav1880
    @T-rav1880 Рік тому

    I've been binging a lot of your videos lately and they are great. Also new to the MP5 world, Accept mine is an AP5-P from century arms. I'm considering putting a folding stock or a slider on mine. What would you consider the better option?

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  Рік тому +1

      Glad you are enjoying them. A side folding stock will most likely be more stable and provide a better cheek weld. Sliders make the overall size more compact when collapsed.

    • @T-rav1880
      @T-rav1880 Рік тому

      @teufelshundtactical7125 Yeah, i definitely need to figure out which one I want. I like both options. And I've kinda been leaning more towards the slider, Because I like that compact package. But I can see where the folding stock would offer better support.

  • @xxxxxx-rm2pn
    @xxxxxx-rm2pn 3 роки тому

    Great video THANK YOU

  • @moazzamali1269
    @moazzamali1269 2 роки тому

    Hi. Wanted to know if we can keep a mp5 chambered for long time(months at times) without wearing out the extractor spring. Thanks in advance

  • @eryk6688
    @eryk6688 3 роки тому +5

    Lets assume I'm not on a swat team and I am not a mega serious LARPer, is there going to be any damage done by loading a 28 round mag with the bolt closed? I understand the argument of uniformity in magazines, but I do know how to count and I dont share my $80+ magazines with people.

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  3 роки тому +3

      Sure. Lots of ways to accomplish a task. But you’re going against the way the weapon was designed to be loaded, purposely losing two rounds out of a magazine designed to hold 30 and now commuting to always downloading your mags in order to get them to seat the first time every time with the bolt forward. For me, I’d rather not have to worry about counting and downloading and just pull the bolt back like I’m supposed to. But again, your gun, run it however you want.

    • @10oner
      @10oner Місяць тому

      Serious larper is the gayest thing ive ever heard 🏳️‍🌈

  • @navyman8903
    @navyman8903 3 роки тому +2

    "...just load your mags to 30 and you won't have that problem."

  • @stephensommer7779
    @stephensommer7779 2 роки тому

    Here's a little off topic but important. It's almost impossible to get a 25 round 22 caliber mag for this rifle.
    I have been able to accumulate three 10 round mags and I've heard some hints that you can convert a 10 round mag to a 25 round mag and of course changing out the spring as well but before doing this I called customer service at HK and they advised not to do this.
    What is your take on this, can it be done safely with excellent cycling. Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated and kudos for illustrating the importance of the four steps necessary for reloading a mag properly.

  • @Skylyned
    @Skylyned 3 роки тому +1

    Great video. I haven't watched Mike's video so he may have answered this - but what is the best method to check mag capacity on a closed bolt? Out of habit from shooting ARs, I find myself pulling the mag on the closed bolt to confirm it's loaded and estimate what I've got left based on weight, then realize I already have a round chambered and can't easily get the mag back in. Do we just have to assume we'll be losing a round on the ground every time we lose track of mag volume?

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  3 роки тому +4

      The MP5 magazine has three witness holes in the rear that you can use for inspection. The practice from ARs of doing a “press check” is a no go though, as the roller delayed bolt system requires the full force of the recoil rod expanding to properly put the weapon in battery. Slowly pulling the bolt back to check and see if you have a round in the chamber will not allow the bolt to go back in battery after (no forward assist). If that is your goal, instead, do this. When you load the magazine with 30 rounds, the top round in the magazine will always be on the left side. When you load the magazine into the weapon, with the bolt back, then slap the charging handle, stripping the top round off the mag and chambering, then you can remove the magazine and check (either visual during day or tactile at night) and if it chambered a round properly, the top round will now be on the right side.

    • @Skylyned
      @Skylyned 3 роки тому

      @@teufelshundtactical But then you have a situation where you've successfully chambered a round and have an almost-full mag you need to reseat. Just pound that thing in there?

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  3 роки тому +4

      @@Skylyned The theory is that for a proactive reload, you are “giving up the probability that there is still one round in the chamber for the certainty that you’re going to put thirty in”. If this seems odd, give it a try. That’s the way it has been run since way back in the SAS, GSG9, SEALS, Marines, etc.

  • @Sopmodenjoyer
    @Sopmodenjoyer 2 роки тому

    Great video! What height is that optic mount not including the b&t mount? I’m guessing it’s a scalarworks, I’m trying to figure out what height I would like the best. Thanks in advance for any info!

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  2 роки тому +1

      It’s a Scalarworks on a B&T base. Several different options for height on both. You just have to determine what works best for you.

    • @Sopmodenjoyer
      @Sopmodenjoyer 2 роки тому

      @@teufelshundtactical I am thinking about passive aiming with NV so maybe I’ll go with a higher mount. Just tough to tell how high is too high 😂 can’t be looking goofy and have a huge height over bore issue. I’m getting the same b&t mount and that’s why I was curious. Thanks again!

  • @justanothergunnerd8128
    @justanothergunnerd8128 Рік тому +1

    Awesome and wildly informative video - but he didn't say the AK style reloading technique doesn't work or isn't reliable. It's just not ideal for the long term life of the gun. If I had an mp5 I would just rock the AK reload style.

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  Рік тому

      The AK reload requires you to download your mags in order to have it reliably seat the first one every time. That means you have to remember to always download your mags and in doing so, you have less ammo. If I’m going to adopt a technique, bolt back reload vs AK reload, I choose the one that gives me more ammo and doesn’t always have to make me count when loading all my mags or remember to remove a couple. But it’s your gun, your technique choice.

    • @justanothergunnerd8128
      @justanothergunnerd8128 Рік тому

      @@teufelshundtactical Hi Sir, thank you very much for the reply. I got ya - a most thorough explanation and a solid argument! I love the channel.

  • @archangel3285
    @archangel3285 3 роки тому +1

    If that be the case, what is the correct method for a tacmag reload?

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  3 роки тому +1

      Bolt needs to be back when doing an admin reload, proactive reload or reactive (immediate) reload. The two techniques of choice are “back, off, on, forward” and “off, back, on, forward”. There are reasons behind each.

    • @archangel3285
      @archangel3285 3 роки тому

      Thank you for your reply. Follow up question: at what point, round count, would you expect to start seeing the sort of malfunctions/damage you talked about in the video?

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  3 роки тому +2

      @@archangel3285 If you are referring to a cracked bolt, that is an extremely rare issue. Shoot and enjoy.

    • @archangel3285
      @archangel3285 3 роки тому

      @@teufelshundtactical and the mag issues you were talking about?

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  3 роки тому +3

      @@archangel3285 It’s not about time with the mags, but use and that is different for different people. My recommendation on mags is first, to have separate mags for training and separate mags for “carry”. If your training mags get wear, no problem. Any issues you face just allow you to get “reps” in on clearing malfunctions. Don’t want to deal with that in a real situation. Second, buy spare magazine springs and keep them in a drawer. When you do your annual maintenance and clean your mags, check the length of the old springs agains the new one and if you see a significant difference in length, throw out the old springs and install the new ones.

  • @pacofux2951
    @pacofux2951 3 роки тому

    Hello from Germany.
    Very informative video.
    How do you think about the the tactical reload on a MP5? How is ot done in your opinion or do you do it at all?
    Thanks

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  2 роки тому +1

      I teach two primary techniques in my courses. The first is “Off, Back, On, Forward” and the second is “Back, Off, On, Forward”. The first is best for certainty and the second is best for speed.

  • @MikeD-it9qb
    @MikeD-it9qb 3 роки тому

    Thank You! Very informative!

  • @JoeyFranko
    @JoeyFranko 2 роки тому

    Hay James. How do you take your classes? What state? I’m in Oklahoma. My daughter lives in Texas. You are a wealth of info

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  2 роки тому +1

      Courses are listed on the training page of the website, teufelshundtactical.com

    • @JoeyFranko
      @JoeyFranko 2 роки тому

      @@teufelshundtactical thanks James. Is the bolt gap the same on a zenith as a hk? 0.18 I think. Noticed un even burns on the left side of my bolt. Is that normal.

    • @JoeyFranko
      @JoeyFranko 2 роки тому

      @@teufelshundtactical link seems to be a dead end. Could not get anything to come up but home page. Sorry I figured it out. I’m 64. Not that great with computers. Guess it’s sold out

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  2 роки тому

      @@JoeyFranko The spec range is the same for all roller delayed weapons based on the H&K design.

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  2 роки тому

      @@JoeyFranko The website works just fine.

  • @01superduty89
    @01superduty89 3 роки тому +1

    I’ve always wondered this.

  • @Tachanka28
    @Tachanka28 3 роки тому

    Super informative, thank you!

  • @forkthepork
    @forkthepork Рік тому

    You look like the dad who owns the bowling alley in Alley Cats Strike.

  • @todd2048
    @todd2048 2 роки тому

    Our unit had a meeting about this issue some guys were down loading to 28rnds then some had full 30rnds the problem was when one guy in the stack hand a mag to another and don't know how he does the reload. So and this was back in like 91 or 92 time frame we just decided to down load to 28rnds for AK reloads.

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  2 роки тому +1

      That certainly is one technique. Another is to always load with the bolt back first. That way, regardless of whether you have 28 or 30 rounds in a mag now or in the future, it will always work.

  • @lambrosstamos4494
    @lambrosstamos4494 3 роки тому +2

    What do you think about modernising the G3. Can it be done? Is there a feasible way to accept optics and lasers?

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  3 роки тому +1

      All the roller delayed rifles are modular by nature. The lack of a bolt hold open device is really the only detractor for most as for modernization.

    • @lambrosstamos4494
      @lambrosstamos4494 3 роки тому

      Thank you for the immediate response. If you don't mind my asking, the Portuguese, the Swedes, and the Norwegians have made attempts to put optics and lasers on their G3s. How can anyone deal with the ergonomic problems?

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  3 роки тому

      @@lambrosstamos4494 There are lots of different mounting options for optics on the roller delayed rifles. Nothing about those compromises ergonomics. Lots of stock options too if you want a better cheek weld. Again, the main complaint I get from newer shooters, who have grown accustom to a bolt hold open device, is the requirement to manually cycle the bolt during reloads. On the longer weapons, requiring more reach, that can take more effort. I have not seen a solution to that. It's just part of running the guns and with training, as always, you can get very proficient with it.

    • @sultanofsick
      @sultanofsick 3 роки тому

      @@teufelshundtactical didn't some of the later MP5 models have a bolt hold open? No idea if they were any good, but I could swear I read the 10mm and/or .40 versions (or some subset thereof) had bolt hold opens added.

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  3 роки тому +2

      @@sultanofsick For the FBI contract, the MP5/10 and MP5/40 were updated to incorporate a bolt hold open device that works in concert with their redesigned magazines. They make running the weapons like a G36 or HK416.

  • @pcs3576
    @pcs3576 3 роки тому

    Debates on the google reference removing magazine prior to locking bolt to the rear? Allegedly preventing wear on magazines??? Or is locking then stripping adequate? Awesome content as usual.

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  3 роки тому

      There is more than one way to do any task, and I teach many at my courses. But bolt back before loading is important. I have never seen any wear on the magazines by doing this with a mag inserted.

    • @pcs3576
      @pcs3576 3 роки тому

      Awesome! Thank you for the reply! I shall continue to lock then strip as its proven to be more efficient for my clumsy hands. Again awesome content and thorough explanations.

  • @jason200912
    @jason200912 2 роки тому

    usually a new mag can cost the same as spare mag springs

  • @Puddin127
    @Puddin127 3 роки тому

    I love a lot of the "haters" online will complain about roller delayed designs and say they're outdated and why people should use different designs since the mp5 is outdated. I think they're missing the whole point....maybe instead of whining about people who still prefer the mp5 design and keep talking about newer designs, instead ask yourself WHY so many people prefer a design as old as the mp5. I always wondered about the sentiment of the mp5, then I shot one and never thought about it again.

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  3 роки тому

      Yep. Never a shortage of “haters”, but what I have found through years of doing this (and life in general) is that we, as humans, inherently dislike what we fail to truly understand. A couple of hours behind a MP5 in one of my training courses, or taking the time to watch one of my video reviews on another H&K weapon they had only previously seen in a glass case at a gun shop, and now they appreciate it for what it is, because they have committed to actually opening their mind and learning. We need more willingness to listen and try new (or in the case of the MP5, old) things in our lives.

  • @TenLives221
    @TenLives221 3 місяці тому

    as a person named mykel who was curious as to why you shouldn't load a mp5 with extra bullets i am offended

  • @bh9229
    @bh9229 3 роки тому +3

    Can slapping the charging handle down from the locked position ever wear down the metal on the receiver?
    Always wondered this bc the HK slap is unique to this brand. I understand this must be HKs manual of arms for operating the firearm, but over prolonged usage have you ever encountered this?
    Im amazed that that HK93 bolt actually cracked, given HKs impressive level of quality and hardness of steel used.

  • @znadler623
    @znadler623 3 роки тому +1

    Great video but I’ve not yet seen anybody smack the bottom of an AK mag 🙃

  • @81blackbelt30
    @81blackbelt30 3 роки тому

    Preach!!!

  • @Tox927
    @Tox927 3 роки тому

    making sense as usual

  • @aarondyer7666
    @aarondyer7666 7 місяців тому +1

    Silly completely useless question... Is it possible to hand chamber a single round?

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  7 місяців тому +1

      Possible, but not recommended. It’s challenging to prevent a double feed or the bolt from going fully into battery.

    • @aarondyer7666
      @aarondyer7666 7 місяців тому

      @@teufelshundtactical I'm no expert but that last part sounds like it could lead to scary kaboom consequences. I'll stick to mag fed.

  • @GoldenWebb
    @GoldenWebb 3 роки тому

    Garand thumb sent me here

  • @ArthurAlmassy
    @ArthurAlmassy 3 роки тому +1

    Who’s the schmohawk that gave the thumbs-down to this video??? Probably a nihilist. Great stuff, James!

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  3 роки тому +2

      I have a “fan” that follows me just to dislike ever I post. He’s nothing if he’s not reliable.

    • @ArthurAlmassy
      @ArthurAlmassy 3 роки тому

      @@teufelshundtactical wow!

  • @royalcylon5878
    @royalcylon5878 2 роки тому

    Do you recommend dropping the magazine first then locking the bolt back for a reload? Or locking the bolt back, dropping the magazine, reload?

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  2 роки тому

      I teach both “Off, Back, On, Forward” and “Back, Off, On, Forward”. The first is best for certainty, the second is best for speed.

  • @Rustebadge
    @Rustebadge 2 роки тому +1

    Amazing that load pressure damaged the bolt (around minute 8). As a Class 3 owner, it is my least favorite machinegun to shoot but it does occasionally see the light of day. Fun but very European, of course. Like most HK products, it suffers from the German disease of being 1) over-engineered, 2) over-complicated, and 3) over-priced. However, it is a very reliable sub-gun, even with a suppressor. All of my mags predate 1980 and work very well. The wife enjoys it because it is easy to manipulate. Thanks for the video.

  • @UnwittingMango
    @UnwittingMango 3 місяці тому

    My PTR K model never feeds the first round when I have bolt forward and pull the charging handle back. It's like the spring doesn't have enough force to push the bolt all the way forward. When I load with the bolt back, I never have the first round not feeding issue. Now I know that I have been doing it incorrectly.

    • @whoisgtsdk
      @whoisgtsdk 18 днів тому

      User error. The mainspring doesn't magically become stronger whether its being released by a finger or a bit of sheetmetal. Sounds like you're riding the bolt forward.

  • @V_-mr6wr
    @V_-mr6wr 3 роки тому +1

    So load the mag to 29?

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  3 роки тому

      Covered in the video

    • @prfwrx2497
      @prfwrx2497 3 роки тому +1

      If your whole unit does that, fine.
      If it's just you, it's a problem when you need to use someone else's mags.

  • @pb7087
    @pb7087 3 роки тому +1

    The video is nicely informative. Thanks for putting it out, but I disagree with the likelihood of the implied tactics and think personal/team SOPs can function just fine with downloading.
    Zero issues for me downloading mags. For one, it’d just be me and the family with the weapon system so no worries about team members loaning mags. But two, even if my duty carbine was an MP5 instead of an M4, if, in some rare instance I need to borrow a mag from a teammate, it won’t be for an emergency reload. I’ll be behind cover and can take my time pulling the charging handle to the rear. It’s really not that complicated to sort out.
    If for some reason, I ran out of my own mags during an emergency reload and didn’t draw my sidearm instead, well I wouldn’t have time to borrow a mag anyway.

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  3 роки тому +1

      You’re obviously welcome to the opinion and welcome to run your gun any away you want. But by downloading your mags, you are committing to a conscious decision tho save a quarter to half a second that you must now do every single time that you run the gun if you want certainty. The way I described is the way the weapon was designed to run and how those top their operators from the SAS, GSG9, SEALS, Marine Force Recon and so on ran their guns, but again, totally your choice.

    • @pb7087
      @pb7087 3 роки тому +2

      I appreciate that.
      But there are plenty of TTPs and SOPs previously used by elite units over the 20th and 21st centuries that are no longer done.
      The only thing absolute about TTPs in effective units is that no TTP is sacrosanct. No TTP is immune from scrapping or evolution.
      It does in fact save time in an emergency reload, and I’m not quite as worried about time in tactical reload.
      But, it’s personal preference and I’m not trying to convince you to change either. Just discussing reasons/pros/cons. Have a good one.

  • @GianfedericoMelchiorri
    @GianfedericoMelchiorri 11 місяців тому

    I wouldn't recommend tò keep the bolt open as a standard procedure, It can be good in clean places but with Sand, dust or mud.....IMHO I would keep the bolt very closed

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  11 місяців тому

      At no point did I recommend keeping the bolt open for anything other than reloading.

  • @neopup1776
    @neopup1776 Рік тому

    If it wasnt designed to do something, dont do it! Always my word of advice

  • @sultanofsick
    @sultanofsick 3 роки тому +1

    Back, off, on, forward

  • @robn2666
    @robn2666 2 роки тому +1

    It’s a crime to not lock the bolt back first. Then no slap 😞

  • @SpencerAK74M
    @SpencerAK74M 3 роки тому

    BZ!

  • @misternitro1
    @misternitro1 3 роки тому

    If youre not wearing that Golden Girls shirt, I cant take you seriously.

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  3 роки тому

      Haha. I was on my way out the door for PT. Saving that classy shirt for later :)

    • @ORLY21
      @ORLY21 3 роки тому

      I can't find this shirt online, so I'm guessing it's a one-off for James only. ;-)

    • @teufelshundtactical
      @teufelshundtactical  3 роки тому

      @@ORLY21 It’s available online.

  • @AldoSchmedack
    @AldoSchmedack Місяць тому

    And boy do the LEO's know exactly what to do. 🙄🤦‍♂️
    At , least the upper end military are willing to listen.
    No offense to cops, several in family are cops and many, many, many friends. But man are some so hard to teach.

  • @christopherhamilton8475
    @christopherhamilton8475 3 роки тому

    interesting. I had to watch 3x just because I'm inventorying his wall. Need some new art!

  • @wokndedfan413
    @wokndedfan413 2 роки тому +1

    I always pull bolt to rear, and I don’t slap it down Die Hard Style. Unless, I take a chick to the range. Also, I won’t store mags loaded either.

    • @skepticalbadger
      @skepticalbadger 2 роки тому

      "Die Hard style"? Do you realize the slap is in the manual?

  • @cardboardkiller6883
    @cardboardkiller6883 Рік тому

    "Load like an AK..."
    Why exactly do these Dumfoks think the MP5 bolt locks back?????
    TIP- when loading your MP5 with the bolt closed, be sure to point the barrel at your face....

  • @MikeHunt-rw4gf
    @MikeHunt-rw4gf 2 роки тому

    Algorithm.