Love the video!! I think people complaint with price is more focused on other product offerings not in the crawler space. For example, for this price you could get any Arrma 3s basher (again in a different category than this). When looking at it like that it’s pretty crazy. But, when you break down costs for parts it makes sense
I really appreciate you took the time and went through all the details. My view - I can only agree. That price makes sense (especially after I find myself investing well north of 200€ and will probably land around 400€ of investing in our close-to-new Arrma Mojave 6s just to stop it from breaking after every run). I am one of those guys who actually consider this rig from Furitek as their first crawler - and it has a lot going for it, but there are for me open points Furitek should answer - at least from a point of someone who is a beginner. Let me delve into in a little more detail: (1) The 'body' included is basically there just to tell us where is the front and I can no consider it more than a place-holder. On top of that - one can not tell (from what is available online) what bodies would fit and whether one can even get anywhere close to some kind of 'scale' build without being a modding-guru (remember, a potential first time buyer is talking) (2) There is NO technical information available from Furitek as of now - no specifications, no user manual, no exploded views. Literally - the 'Download' site on Furitek as nothing at all. Also next to no information on compatibility with other electronic systems (they do mention that the Traxxas receiver does not work what is a bummer). (3) Those shocks should have been oil-filled. Period. Those components are not easy to find (is there any quality source for 1:24 scale at all?) - no clue whether TRX4m shocks would fit. Maybe they just could not find a supplier or though it was not really needed. (4) Neither the 4x4, nor the 6x6 appear (I may be mistaken, but see the point (2) ) appear to be able to change wheel base - that would be a great feature that would allow to fit different bodies more easily. I do suppose that over time at least some of my 'points' will be solved in one way or another. In total - it drives really well as it comes and I applaud them for it, but to turn it into an actual semi-scale truck may well be an involved project (I have not seen one such a conversion yet, though I expect that to change over time). So honestly - I am really on a fence and it may (I am not in a hurry) make more sense to get the TRX4m, get the Furitek kit and bite the bullet and the also the Avatar radio plus the receiver. Because that, to me, appears the easiest way to get nice scaled car with the awesomeness of the Furitek (I would prefer the 1:18 Land Cruiser or a flat bad truck from FMS for looks, but would be a lot of work I guess - the Cayman is not compatible with them - that information is directly from Furitek) End of a rant :)
Point 1: Bodies are a very hard thing to give a "standard fitment". We are constantly buying bodies and trying them out. Furitek would "never be right" if they gave some sort of "these bodies" suggestion. I would try 1/18-1/24 bodies. You can also just wait until people start fitting bodies and if you see one you like, ask where they got it. Point 2: I kind of wish they had an exploded view of the truck for new people as well... You can probably find an exploded view of the axles as they are by FMS (for the FCX24). The thing with this truck is that it is not a "normal RTR". It is a CUSTOM. So these parts are sort of piecemealed together. As for what tx/rx works with the Furitek Lizard Pro, any will worth that allows an external ESC. (They specifically mention the Traxxas because the Traxxas is a COMBO ESC and RX (Same with the FCX24 and SCX24 stock electronics) None of those are really meant to use an external ESC. But any "Hobby Grade" RX/TX system (NOT ESC COMBO) will work for the lizard (and any other external ESC). Point 3. I agree, they should have used oil filled shocks. Big Sad. You can upgrade them as there are plenty of options out there. Even the Stock FCX24 Max Smasher has oil fillable shocks. (and those will fit on here) Point 4: If you mean "change the wheel base" as in make it wider, you just need positive offset wheels or some hex wheel spacers (for the FCX24) and you can get a wider wheelbase. If tyou mean longer wheelbase, you just need longer suspension links and driveshafts. Final Point. This rig is NOT meant to be a "scale truck". It is meant to be much closer to a comp truck. (Not that you cant make it a scale truck, that just requires a scale body ;-) and a way to mount it.) Furitek is going to say those bodies will not be "compatible" because they would require work to make it fit. Again, if you get creative and crafty, you can fit all kinds of bodies and beds on this thing. You just have to figure out how to mount them. That is something that happens daily in many of the SCX, and FCX 24 facebook groups. If you want a very scale looking truck, the SCX24 Bronco (hard body) and the trx4ms (also hard body) are very good at scale details. All of the FMS hard bodies also look fantastic. Swapping any of the RTR Rigs (Except SCX24 Trucks that come with the V1 Electronics, they work with external ESCs) will require you to upgrade to a new RX/TX for the external ESC. Keep that in mind when pricing.
All it needs for me is metal beadlocks and better tires, metal servo horn, and paint job for the body and oil shocks , I actually prefer the maroon on the body. Would you see in the ads
Cayman 6x6 pro is fire! Honestly is one of my future builds, I have to finish my scx24 6x6 before tho! Thank you for the great video I definitely agree it’s expensive but I have spent more than that on upgrade on most of my 1/24 and they are not brushless, and some don’t even have a body!!! I think the cayman is a great option, but not for everybody.
It's not for me being a builder but... people that don't do custom 24 scale build need to just sit back and enjoy the entertainment... 😉 ..my builds way exceed the price of this cheers mate
Hey great video. What screws are used compared to the scx24 ? i orderet some shocks for scx24 but the pivot ball joints are to small for the screws on the furitek cayman pro 6x6. any suggestions ? thanks in advance
Where can I purchase the middle axle I can't find online , I even called furitek to see if they had parts for sale or how do i convert stock fcx24 axles to the middle axle
Honestly, I am not sure. I think it’s just 2 halves of the output shaft side of the axle housing. I don’t know how they are doing the internal shafts though. Id have to open it up.
Hello I was wondering if you could measure and provide me some measurements of the 6x6. What is the stock shock length and all stock driveshaft lengths? Looking to get upgraded options the same time I order the 6x6. Thanks in advance!
Not yet that we know of, other than some of the metal portal gears that were sent out early on to replace the plastics. They were 11 tooth (I think) vs 12. So basically overdrive.
Yeah I like it, I’ve been looking at them until my furnace went out in the house it’s a $400 bill well got a wait a little longer
Ooof. I wish you a quick repair on that.
LOL, I just did a HVAC repair job and used the money to buy a Cayman. Funny how things work out.
Caymen 6x6 PRO is FIRE!!! First time watching this Ken.. Well done SIR! Note: the new Caymen 6x6 PRO, I think comes with deadlocks.
Thanks for the watch good sir. They definitely need the beadlocks because those tires slip like crazy.
Love the video!! I think people complaint with price is more focused on other product offerings not in the crawler space. For example, for this price you could get any Arrma 3s basher (again in a different category than this). When looking at it like that it’s pretty crazy. But, when you break down costs for parts it makes sense
Yeah. I totally get it. Like I said in the video, some will say “I can get a 1/10 crawler for that” and to that I say, this isn’t for you. ;)
That you sir for the details and info. I really like this rig as a noob in this hobby
Thanks a ton for watching!!! This rig is amazing for a newer hobbyist.
I really appreciate you took the time and went through all the details. My view - I can only agree. That price makes sense (especially after I find myself investing well north of 200€ and will probably land around 400€ of investing in our close-to-new Arrma Mojave 6s just to stop it from breaking after every run).
I am one of those guys who actually consider this rig from Furitek as their first crawler - and it has a lot going for it, but there are for me open points Furitek should answer - at least from a point of someone who is a beginner. Let me delve into in a little more detail:
(1) The 'body' included is basically there just to tell us where is the front and I can no consider it more than a place-holder. On top of that - one can not tell (from what is available online) what bodies would fit and whether one can even get anywhere close to some kind of 'scale' build without being a modding-guru (remember, a potential first time buyer is talking)
(2) There is NO technical information available from Furitek as of now - no specifications, no user manual, no exploded views. Literally - the 'Download' site on Furitek as nothing at all. Also next to no information on compatibility with other electronic systems (they do mention that the Traxxas receiver does not work what is a bummer).
(3) Those shocks should have been oil-filled. Period. Those components are not easy to find (is there any quality source for 1:24 scale at all?) - no clue whether TRX4m shocks would fit. Maybe they just could not find a supplier or though it was not really needed.
(4) Neither the 4x4, nor the 6x6 appear (I may be mistaken, but see the point (2) ) appear to be able to change wheel base - that would be a great feature that would allow to fit different bodies more easily.
I do suppose that over time at least some of my 'points' will be solved in one way or another.
In total - it drives really well as it comes and I applaud them for it, but to turn it into an actual semi-scale truck may well be an involved project (I have not seen one such a conversion yet, though I expect that to change over time). So honestly - I am really on a fence and it may (I am not in a hurry) make more sense to get the TRX4m, get the Furitek kit and bite the bullet and the also the Avatar radio plus the receiver. Because that, to me, appears the easiest way to get nice scaled car with the awesomeness of the Furitek (I would prefer the 1:18 Land Cruiser or a flat bad truck from FMS for looks, but would be a lot of work I guess - the Cayman is not compatible with them - that information is directly from Furitek)
End of a rant :)
Point 1: Bodies are a very hard thing to give a "standard fitment". We are constantly buying bodies and trying them out. Furitek would "never be right" if they gave some sort of "these bodies" suggestion. I would try 1/18-1/24 bodies. You can also just wait until people start fitting bodies and if you see one you like, ask where they got it.
Point 2: I kind of wish they had an exploded view of the truck for new people as well... You can probably find an exploded view of the axles as they are by FMS (for the FCX24). The thing with this truck is that it is not a "normal RTR". It is a CUSTOM. So these parts are sort of piecemealed together. As for what tx/rx works with the Furitek Lizard Pro, any will worth that allows an external ESC. (They specifically mention the Traxxas because the Traxxas is a COMBO ESC and RX (Same with the FCX24 and SCX24 stock electronics) None of those are really meant to use an external ESC. But any "Hobby Grade" RX/TX system (NOT ESC COMBO) will work for the lizard (and any other external ESC).
Point 3. I agree, they should have used oil filled shocks. Big Sad. You can upgrade them as there are plenty of options out there. Even the Stock FCX24 Max Smasher has oil fillable shocks. (and those will fit on here)
Point 4: If you mean "change the wheel base" as in make it wider, you just need positive offset wheels or some hex wheel spacers (for the FCX24) and you can get a wider wheelbase. If tyou mean longer wheelbase, you just need longer suspension links and driveshafts.
Final Point. This rig is NOT meant to be a "scale truck". It is meant to be much closer to a comp truck. (Not that you cant make it a scale truck, that just requires a scale body ;-) and a way to mount it.) Furitek is going to say those bodies will not be "compatible" because they would require work to make it fit.
Again, if you get creative and crafty, you can fit all kinds of bodies and beds on this thing. You just have to figure out how to mount them. That is something that happens daily in many of the SCX, and FCX 24 facebook groups.
If you want a very scale looking truck, the SCX24 Bronco (hard body) and the trx4ms (also hard body) are very good at scale details. All of the FMS hard bodies also look fantastic.
Swapping any of the RTR Rigs (Except SCX24 Trucks that come with the V1 Electronics, they work with external ESCs) will require you to upgrade to a new RX/TX for the external ESC. Keep that in mind when pricing.
@@TheShopMiniRC thank you for a detailed reply, it is very much appreciated.
@@matusknives thanks for the viewership!
I wish they'd offer their stuff in kits and not already assembled. Putting them together is half the fun for me.
I agree. I love building them. A builders kit could be awesome.
All it needs for me is metal beadlocks and better tires, metal servo horn, and paint job for the body and oil shocks , I actually prefer the maroon on the body. Would you see in the ads
Yeah. A few minor upgrades make this thing insane!!!
Cayman 6x6 pro is fire!
Honestly is one of my future builds, I have to finish my scx24 6x6 before tho!
Thank you for the great video
I definitely agree it’s expensive but I have spent more than that on upgrade on most of my 1/24 and they are not brushless, and some don’t even have a body!!!
I think the cayman is a great option, but not for everybody.
Good choice! It's a bad ass truck for sure but you are right, it may not be for everyone.
It's not for me being a builder but... people that don't do custom 24 scale build need to just sit back and enjoy the entertainment... 😉 ..my builds way exceed the price of this cheers mate
Totally understand that. That’s kinda the point we were trying to make, to build your own, it’s easily double.
@@TheShopMiniRC true true 👍
@@rcjoe406 we love both methods. Lol. Options are always good. Good options are even better!!
The magnetic body mounts aren't cheap either. You missed adding that to the list😊
True!
I got 1 from Amain's boxing day sale. Has beadlocks from furitek
Super sick deal on that. Awesome it’s now got beadlocks!
Thank you Ken :)
It’s a great rig, anyone who purchases it will be ecstatic to own it!!
Love mine 😊
They are a blast!!!
Cayman 6x6 Pro is Fire!!!!!!
Glowing red fire!!!
Not sure if the 6x6 is right for me. Maby if I had a bed built for it and used it as a recovery rig.
You can always build the bed!!!
Hey great video. What screws are used compared to the scx24 ? i orderet some shocks for scx24 but the pivot ball joints are to small for the screws on the furitek cayman pro 6x6. any suggestions ? thanks in advance
They should be m1.5 screws if I remember right.
You can use fcx24 parts on the Caymen. Also, you can drill out the pivot ball holes ;)
@@TheShopMiniRC thank you very much. happy new year and happy Crawling
How do I get one of these 6x6s I called a couple of hobby stores and they can’t get one either somebody point me in the right direction
Check furitek.com, FuritekUSA.com and HeliDirect.com, they used to have a bunch
does this have a 2 speed gearbox?
No, it uses the scx24 gearbox.
It's cool but I'd rather take 2 scx24s and build my own 6x6 or 8x8
Sure, but this has tons of upgrade parts already and is great for someone looking for an RTR.
Where can I purchase the middle axle I can't find online , I even called furitek to see if they had parts for sale or how do i convert stock fcx24 axles to the middle axle
Honestly, I am not sure. I think it’s just 2 halves of the output shaft side of the axle housing. I don’t know how they are doing the internal shafts though. Id have to open it up.
Hello I was wondering if you could measure and provide me some measurements of the 6x6. What is the stock shock length and all stock driveshaft lengths? Looking to get upgraded options the same time I order the 6x6. Thanks in advance!
Shock eye to eye is 39mm, Front Driveshaft is 49mm, center is 47.5mm, and rear shaft is 42mm
@@TheShopMiniRC thank you so much for the reply
@@OwenPrandi of course. Hope it helps.
the avatar system is over 100 without the rx chip. its 149. with rx/tx
This does not come with the avatar.
@@TheShopMiniRC I noticed that after I posted it and was like well I’m a dummy. Lol. Bet that truck would handle nicely with the avatar system
@@DadsRCGaragePNW we might see. We have a Noble NB4 and NB4 Pro but also have a avatar on the way. We will be checking it out when we get it.
does anyone make an OD or UD option gear set for the FMS diff or portal?
Not yet that we know of, other than some of the metal portal gears that were sent out early on to replace the plastics. They were 11 tooth (I think) vs 12. So basically overdrive.
Does the injora fits on the 6x6?
Wheels? yes! 1.0 wheels fit!
INJORA 1.0" 62*22mm S5 Super Soft Sticky All Terrain Tires for 1/18 1/24 RC Crawlers (4) (T1014)
@@TheShopMiniRC maybe the 2 wheels on the back with bigger wheels are touching eachother
@@rjleunura ahh. Tires you mean. I set some OGRC pin comps on the wheels and it looks like they would not touch. They are 63.
@@rjleunura these would fit and not touch each other. Very close though.