Time Team S15-E06 Gold in the Moat, Codnor Castle, Derbyshire
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- Опубліковано 18 бер 2013
- Time Team are called to a site that covers several fields and lies between two villages ¿ Wickenby to the west and Lissington to the east.
It lay hidden for centuries until discovered by a local metal detectorist, Keith Kelway. Over the years Keith has recovered more than 300 metal artefacts from the area. Most are Roman, with some Iron-Age and Anglo-Saxon material.
Can the Team identify what the site was used for?
Love that guy's extreme shock and enthusiasm over finding the gold coin! So glad they included that in the show!
I immediately recognized the de Grey name and checked my family tree. Henry de Grey, Baron Grey of Codnor was my 26th great-grandfather. He hailed from Thurrock
Grey, Essex. His wife, Isolda Bardolf, was from Hoo, Kent. They appear to be the first de Greys of Codnor. Their son, Richard de Grey of Codnor was my 25th great-grandfather. And yes, our tree cites that Richard "was an English landowner who held many important positions in the reign of Henry III of England." It's already a bit surreal to associate a historical (or even historic) figure with a great-grandparent (think of the sheer number of descendants at this point), and even more surreal to watch this program and see the team work on the castle cited in the family tree history.
Within two generations, one of Richard de Grey of Codnor's grandsons (and my direct line), Andrew Gray, Lord of Broxmouth (brother of Henry de Grey, 1st Baron of Codnor, who inherited the direct line of the Lords of Codnor), "obtained from King Robert [Bruce of Scotland], for his good and faithful services [in the War of Independence], a grant of several lands", one of which was Broxmouth Castle in Roxburghshire, Scotland. That line spent the next 12 generations in eastern Scotland. And yes, the direct line of the Lords of Codnor continued for another two hundred years. Fascinating stuff.
I work in a film studio in Bulgaria and a couple of months ago I saw Sir Tony walking about I just smiled and nodded he responded with the same. I wish I had the courage to talk to him and to be honest I probably would have just said "I miss Time Team"
You should of said hello. I met him many times in Bristol city and he was a really nice guy.
@@eire187 I once showed him my Roman disc brooche and was delighted with his comment ""Boootiful "".
@@robertsmith9076 met him one time and had a smoke together in a beer garden. He asked are you going to share that. I was actually supprised on how much of a down to earth regular guy he is. Bump into him a couple of times a year usually for the last 15 years or so.
@@eire187 That's nice to hear.
@@eire187 If you see him again, do say hello to him from him. A long time fan all the way from south of the world - Brunei.
For a metal detectorist, finding a gold coin of that size, type and date is the find of a life-time. Congrats.
Phil's short shorts are legit a co-star of this show.
I live in Codnor, it’s a lovely walk to the castle. Every time I go I think if only I could travel back in time for the day to see it in all its glory.
Oh yes, it would be very interesting to see it in its original glory!
How does it look today, what was made of it?
I think it's fascinating that they located the grand hall where the castle owner met with the King of England. Imagine the moment you realize you are standing in an ancient room where the king once was, a room you discovered based on an antique engraving of a slightly more intact ruin, and then you find one of the gold coins that belonged to the man who met with the king in the room you are standing? Amazing.
*I am straight up ADDICTED to this show. I only wish it were still on the air...* 🤷🏻♀️
me too...
Same here.
Me too. Love these guys and gals.
Same Here, sadly every UA-cam Channel that has every episode from this Series has been shutdown or removed because of Copyright.
I wonder if it's just too nice for our times. It's a show about a group of friends who work together towards a positive result. Sometimes they have disappointments, sometimes they fall out, but they always work through their problems and at the end we all feel better to have been part of their journey. In a world of reality television whose attraction is conflict and negativity, perhaps there is no place for a Time Team.
The team finding the coin and their reaction is the purest thing I've seen in years
Metal detectorists dream about finding a gold noble. Few ever do but then, it's extremely rare to get permission to swing your detector over this kind of land and spoil.
if you watch the metal detectorist, he's still holding out his shaking hand with a big grin, like please give me back my gold coin, i lust love the natural reactions of everyone in all of these programs.
I love Time Team so much that I bought a baseball cap. Cost me $34 and I love it. Sent to the States. It took more than 3 days to get here. ;-)
this should have been a 4 hour, 12 day special!
Yep, some times I wish they did not do the 3 days thing, just do it over 2 weeks and make it over 2-3 episodes.
12/31/19 - Winchester, Virginia - and I just found this show, great stuff!
There is one episode where they visit Jamestown.
That metal detector finds member trembling with pure excitement was so wholesome to witness….you know the passion for history that this show stands for….is absolutely real even right down it’s less glamorous members…what a great moment for that chap…and what a rich episode…TT is just awesome…
Hundreds of years ago, someone was seriously cheesed off about losing that coin...
I don't know what it is about the phrase "cheesed off" but it almost always makes me giggle like a loon for far too long
Do you ever find yourself wondering who the last person to touch that coin was before it fell into the moat? What was the story around it? Also, the same with those pottery shards. They were probably just normal kitchen vessels, but now that's all that's left behind of what must have been a pretty big population. I wonder what commonplace items we use every day will be a huge, notable find at some dig in 500 years?
What we have no way of knowing yet is how well plastic items will survive after centuries.
I wonder if the person who dropped that coin ever though... I wonder if anyone will ever find my coin.
It depends whether or not the plastic is exposed to sunlight...Plastic will break down in a year or two in sunshine, buried, I have no idea how long it would last.
Matt Morrisson
The oldest coin I've found is a silver from 1596. It's truly awesome to think about how it ended up in the dirt and who the person who dropped it was like.
Time Team S15-E06 is Excellent. A multi layered & complex project, spanning several hundred years w/exciting twists & turns throughout. An amazing team, archeology, and finds!
"Girl, are you masonry?!
Coz you're quite difficult to date."
"Girl, are you a gold coin?!
Coz I want to throw you in a moat."
Watching digs like this makes me painfully aware of how shitty we make our foundations and buildings nowadays.
I'm sure if you are friends with the ruling monarch you can still build a quality wall like this today. Remeber most people in the 12th-15th century lived in houses made of sticks, stucco, and thatch, onlynthe wealthy could afford stone and brick.
We design domestic dwellings in the uk to have a design life of at least 100 years.
So have you ever heard of skyscrapers ?
Abso bloody lutely amazing!! Tremendous skill by all concerned to unravel all that has happened here, and just reward with the gold coin to top it all. Best episode of the lot.
Steve
I love everyone on this show anyway & they are all valuable in their own way, but I think the pottery guy is so important. I like watching his smarts! He helps them very much, wonderful edition to the whole team.
thats typical phil, keep your gold coin, look at this beautiful wall
He sounds like president Trump at a budget meeting.
@@VCYT LOL, LOL!
Imagine going in to the castle, paying your taxes, but somehow the losing the money in the moat, then the king throws you in the dungeon for non-payment
WOLFROY47 I thought that, as well! God love him!
To be fair, a gold noble is a fantastic find but aside from the date it doesn't tell you a great deal about the site. This is Phil being ultra professional.
I have only discovered this series and intend to watch them all. Thank you.
Damn those Zouches!! I really enjoyed this episode as I live not too far away from Codnor.
This was a very interesting episode. A once in a lifetime find of a gold coin. How great is that? I think this is one of the most interesting castle ruins.I loved that piece of pottery with the gold design. One of these times I hope they discover the kitchens and kitchen relics.
I’m also addicted. I think this may be one of my top five favorite time teams.
I couldn't help but notice that Raksha has a big beautiful smile! And Phil Harding is a BAD-ASS!
This series is so entertaining, and informative.
I love Phil's accent!
It is extremely charming, isn't it?
@@TheRedWabbitVery much so.
Absolutely brilliant episode I just wanted it to o and on, so many stories with every thing they or unearthed.
Thank heavens for the explanatory superimposed graphics when they talk about doorposts and ditches. I'm just starting to be able to make out doors instead of ragged stone edges, but no chance with the ditch soil colours... How do they do it?
Its actually easier in real life TV sort of flattens the colour differences. Although i struggled at times especially in the rain.
I watched every episode of all these programs what great programs they were
Since everything nowadays is just reboots, I say let’s start a petition to ge Time Team going again. Or time for a reunion lol
How is it that Phil has better nails than me and you don’t find me digging in the dirt! 🤣
Phil takes good care of his nails. He is a serious guitarist and plays finger style instead of using a pick. The nails on his right hand are longer to pluck the strings and shorter on the left hand to work the frets. He is a multi talented guy.
Love watching the Time Team videos especially the ones that showcase castles. I worked in two of Ohios's Castles not far from where I live. Wrote a book about my favorite, Mac-O-Chee Castle. Thanks for sharing your work.
Someone had a bad day when they dropped that coin, only for the Time Team to dig it up centuries later so Phil could comment "Ooh-ar, ehh...?"
TONGA9691 TONGA I keep thinking that that gold coin is thrown into the moat on purpose, like a Wishing Well.
Agreed. The guy who owned the castle fought in the Battle of Agincour, what better way to get God on your side than tossing the largest gold coin of the time as a prayer offering for his protection in battle.
If it was dropped, I would love to know what the person who dropped it shouted. Not "F**K!!!", I'm sure. Some scolar must have an idea.
I just asked myself at 16:43, why is Phil in Daisy Dukes, and right on time, "Well, why Phil does his trousers back up..." Absolute gold!!
Tony said, “while Phil does his trousers up.” Not “why”.
"Its Juliet "!!!!!!!-lol
Love Tony, Mick and Phil!!!!
39:00 . Watch the guy who found the coin's expression. Genuine, sheer joy.
The best TT yet,awesome work.
When the digger found the thing at min 37:45 (no spoilers)and the “moment” he had was absolutely fantastic.
In these troubled times it is a pleasure to watch something like this."Ooh, stone me, that is a gorgeous edge, isn't it?"
OK, so I read "Gold in the Moat, Gondor..." D'oh...!
One of my ancestors, Sir Henry de Grey, Baron Grey reportedly died September 08, 1219, and was buried there. His son and my ancestor Sir John de Grey, Chief Justice of Chester, Sheriff of Herefordshire, was supposedly born there about 1205.
I'm descended from Sir John de Grey's brother, Sir Richard de Grey. So Sir Henry is our shared gazillionth great-grandfather.
Fascinating story in this episode, I can watch it again and again.
Very exciting episode, and not just for the gold coin, either. I love old castles and I'm intrigued by the lives that must have been lived in them centuries ago. That coin probably just fell out of a sack on a wagon or horse as it was going across the drawbridge. And a drawbridge and moat - wow! I honestly thought those things were just a cliché. I suppose so many castles that old haven't survived, so you rarely ever see them anymore. I would love to be on a team of archeologists that was allowed to completely scour that place for as long as it took to complete. No telling what you might find there.
Celto Loco Cliché: 1) A very predictable or unoriginal thing or person; 2) A stereotype; 3) A phrase or opinion that is overused and betrays a lack of original thought. ie. _One man's trash is another man's treasure._
I realize the American education system is severely lacking, but a word like CLICHE is not that rare, and is actually very useful. Sad, but people of your intelligence and education level are becoming an American cliche. They DO still have dictionaries. I suggest you get yourself one - and use it.
Hey Seuss LOL! Because I checked.
Hey Seuss Try hovering your cursor over his avatar.
Hey Seuss Generic or not, is it American?
"It's the most common city name in America at over 50 cities."
Exactly. You're right, though - that IS cliche. I like donuts. What's wrong with donuts?
Hey Seuss LOL! I know. Thanks. What was it George Carlin said about American consumption?
"... the mall - where Americans can fulfill their two favourite cravings in one place - shopping and eating ... if you were selling sautéd racoons' assholes on a stick, Americans would buy them, AND eat them; especially if you had some melted butter to dip them in first."
I found myself more interested in the efforts to stabilize the remaining masonry structures. I hate seeing trees and vines slowly destroy the historical record because people are afraid of pruning and deracinating. I am interested to know more about the methods and conservation ethics in this effort, in particular, whether fallen and uncovered stones are reincorporated into the structures and how much of the structures are left above ground and how much get reburied.
Oct 2018 visit - all trees in the structure are now removed and trenches filled in. Looks like certain amount of repointing done too.
it's the trees and shrubs that preserved it. Shielding the rocks from direct rain and snow fall, dropping their leaves year after year after year, back covering the area layers of leaves which became compost, which became silt.
we visited last week looked very clean and clear site you wouldnt have any idea this dig took place and found myself wondering where the team stayed over night lol cos its supposed to be one haunted location alright. Tip, if you visit dont let the sat nav take you down the private road because you wont have much suspension left lol
I regularly annoy people by ending sentences with "and as usual, we've only got three days to find out."
How many of them have any idea what you are alluding to?
@@gregb6469 I'm afraid that something has happened to HQMatt and, as usual, we've only got three days to find out what it was. Start digging.
@@clairepettie one of the funniest comments I have ever seen
Cheers, @@viperdetecting4425.
If you'd like to join the search party, put on waders. It's time to drain the moat.
@@clairepettie We came here expecting to find HQMatt, but instead found something completely different!
Thanks for posting such a wonderful series!
Stunning coin and stunning history.
Such an exciting episode! Thanks for sharing. :)
Amazing finds. Thank you.
Fascinating as I live in Codnor...
I always love it when the experts get in the trenches and dig too
They should continue digging the moat. Must be more gold coin.
The castle is here, mostly hidden in trees:
53°02'42.5"N 1°21'17.8"W
But there are many attached photos that show the castle nicely.
Looks like UK Coal cleared the trees ...
Thanks mate! Google Satellite: goo.gl/maps/FpDpAzbMLr1ffwps5
@@kaizen5023 When I did all these the first time you couldn't just pin it on Google and get a direct URL like you can now. I had to mark each spot and then calculate the latitude and longitude. Only mentioning this to demonstrate how rapidly the technology changed.
Thanks for the upload, mate.
Appreciated.
Thanks so much for posting
What an extraordinary find!
It's in perfect condition, not even bend.
But can you imagine the person who lost it? even for a noble a gold coin should have had quite some value. Unless someone was walking around with a lot of them they must have noticed that it was gone. Imagine how someone frantically searched for it.
Stone work for the castle base, windows and walls are interesting ! Go ARMY
Love this show!
great docu, really interesting. Lucky penny!
That pottery guy is off the charts with knowledge. "3 second look at the rim of a pot "Yeah 16th century because of ......" WOW!
Paul blinkhorn is amazing. He did a great interview on archeosoup
actually, that is the going measure of the expert. It's amazing to you or I, because we know none of it, but it's literally his job to know that stuff as well as it can be known. And he does, and that's why he's there
I was sitting here watching this and the name de Grey kept sounding awfully familiar. I do genealogy for my family so I went to the records and guess what I found? Sir Richard De Grey of Codnor born @1202, who was the son of Henry De Grey, Baron Grey of Codnor. No wonder the name sounded so familiar!! So interesting to see where some of my distant ancestors lived!!
@Wanda Twellman Not sure what "records" you used, but parish records in England don't go back that far so an accurate genealogy to the C13th is virtually impossible. A lot of people are taken in by these genealogy sites and believe they are "related to...." but it's mostly wishful thinking I'm afraid.
@Wanda my maternal grandad's grandmother was a Grey/Gray and I have been able to trace the Grey line to a John Grey who was son of Sir Ralph Grey of Chillingham Castle, Northumberland Ralph's ancestors are linked to the Greys of Codnor.
Super episode!
It needs to be turned into a wonderful garden.
I've turned into a Time Team junky since the quarantine. This is the first episode I've seen were everyone isn't wearing striped sweaters. I think Brits call them jumpers.
Actually we call them both, both more commonly jumpers, yes
Wow, so fascinating!
LORD LOVE A DUCK....GIVE EM A MONTH FOR A DIG! JUST THINK OF WHAT MIGHT BE DISCOVERED!
Gregory Jay Alexander Sharp I truly hope that the preservation people kept taking at this site because it’s one of the most interesting and important I think they’ve ever found.
@@fleetskipper1810 not really, just that they had a few nice finds. Other than that, its a standard castle. The most important find was hadrians wells in london. That showed technology which was far beyond anything ever found before anywhere in the roman empire. And they had several other world class finds like the roman temple complex and the villa at dinnington.
Gregory Jay Alexander Sharp Thanks for the head’s up. I will check out the Hadrian Wells episode. I think I’ve seen the Roman Villa episode already.
@@fleetskipper1810 they did 2 episides on the villa, and the 2nd was a special, as was the hadrians well's.
What a beautiful coin.
Looks like it was stamped just yesterday. Obviously it wasn't circulated much, if at all, since there wasn't any apparent wear. Coins I have that are only a 250 years old and of harder material are often worn so much from handling/chainlink coin purse scratches/rubbing against other coinage that it is often a chore even just to interpret the markings/facing/year stamps, despite originating with stampings as crisp and defined as the example coin found. Truly is a benchmark example they located.
Manny Calavera That kind of makes me wonder if they would’ve found others if they had dug further in the most. Hopefully, somebody kept digging after Time team wrapped up.
@@fleetskipper1810 Either that or the detectorist fancied 5 minutes of fame and 'dropped' it lol.
@@jimwest7107 Yeah, 'cos he's likely to have an incredibly valuable 'noble' knocking around amongst his finds, isn't he?
Oh thank goodness!! It took me a few moments to realize Tony was talking about mines that you dig in the ground to extract something, NOT the kind of mines you PLANT in the ground to explode... I couldn't understand why they would send the geophys team out on such dangerous territory!!
haha, oh that poor cameraman, got his lens blasted with dirt by Phil. and then Tony's line afterwards.... LOL right about the 4 and a half minute mark
It's obvious the the national treasure in England is Sir Tony Robinson!
Bless 'im, that detectorist was made up with his find. And what a find...! Hope he recorded Time Team on his old VHS when it was broadcast, or he's found himself on here, remembering his once in a lifetime find.!
That was a very valuable coin, even back in the day. I can imagine one of the deGrey's flaunting their wealth by flippantly flipping it into the moat.
A bit like noncy young blokes with too much cash burning a fifty to light a cigar?
Six Episodes worth of finds, in one Episode.
Where I live, if the oldest thing you'll find in the dirt is a 'old fashioned' pull tab soda can or an old a-1 steak sauce bottle "vintage 1978".
Awesome video i love tractors
One of my family lines can be traced back to William Peveril and also to Henry DeGrey and Isolda Bardolf, with the Grey family holding Codnor for three hundred years.
In the immortal words of Indiana Jones, "It belongs in a museum".
Folks say the same about American democracy.
Motor.biycs.
Motor.biycs.
Should of inspected the cottage nearby more, its built from the stones of the ruined castle.
I think you mean "should have".
Been here a couple of times now, fascinates me every time!
Time to watch this now lol
Wonderful watching during COVID-19. T H A N K Y O U. !!!!!
Good ol' Phil, love that Bristolian accent. Don't get enough accent variation in the media. Plus, you gotta' love it when he argues with Mick or Stuart or Carenza [sp?]. He always had a chip on his shoulder because he didn't have a degree and felt it wasn't necessary to dig 'oles, lol.
It's actually a *Wiltshire* accent, not *Bristolese.*
pretty sure he has a degree
he has degrees
wonderful
8:49.....Marci from "Peanuts". Love TT
Was here 2019
Mad Dog me too!
Love the show.. but why is it always only 3 days? Lol
Brilliant
In reference to the gold coin and the comment made about an incident at the beginning of the Hundred Years’ War, the incident was the English victory at the battle of sluys.
4:50 lol burying a dog
We luv u Helen g
Phil must be a finger style guitar player, the nails on his right hand are long, left and short. Call me Sherlock Holmes :)
He is indeed
Phil is Daddy
Denise Daly - I noticed them too. I just don't know how he could do all the digging with those long nails (this coming from a woman who keeps her nails carefully manicured).
Shaky Hand Pictures thats what I was thinking!
Actually, he's an accomplished lutanist.
I wish you guys did more days than 3.
My Mothers ancestors (her Mothers side) were Cliffords from Derbyshire and so find this relevant.
THE DRUMS. We only have three days. OMG
All laying about all higgily piggilly. Hahahaha! I've never heard that one before!
seattwa Yep, not a common phrase out in Seattle.
This show makes me want to re-read "Motel of the Mysteries" by David Macaulay
A question for English archaeologists, "Should the folly go before or behind the ha-ha?"
I do love this prog, the only criticism I have is that these buildings etc, would not have been built to metric measurements, but imperial feet inches chains rods poles,etc etc etc.I am fortunate as I can work in both as my trade spans both usages,,,that said a lot of older people may have no idea.
Older people lived through the times of imperial to metric changes so would be more likely to be able to convert more easily than todays school kids who don't have that experience. Most tape measures that you can buy now have both measures and diaries have conversion tables that can help us. I'm 73 and have learnt to practice mental arithmetic and approximation to deal with day to day maths and measurements. But like all skills if you don't use them, you lose them and it's never too late to learn. Sorry got carried away and drifted from the subject. It's an age problem!