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Mufti Muhammed Naeem VS Jawed Ahmed Ghamidi - Part 1/2
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2009
- Mufti Muhammed Naeem and Jawed Ghamidi Debate on topic Madaris Education System on Aaj TV
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These molvis are no where near the legacy of great gamdi saab
yes you are 100 % right ghamidi, . thank you for lots of good information, please teach us more about deen Allah give u ajer for that....
Mr Gamdhi is right
Zakir naik is example
He is doctor but he chose to become preacher.
I have not seen Aalim like Janab Ghamidi.He is the only person who the even non believers would like to listen.He is very knowledgeable his vision is well beyond the people with he has to sit with.I think he is before time in Pakistani culture.Pakistan is well clutched by Jahil molvis and this is very natural with the level of education in Pakistan.
Javed Ahmed Ghamidi's point of view is very logical and to deny it, A persons Must have a Very Low Common Sense!!!
Mr.molvi claims to be educated but he doesn't have simple etiquette of talking.
Janab Javed Ghamidi is well beyond the time of these molvis... He understands Islam in its true sense where as these molvis learn Islam without understanding..... Example is when first Quran was translated most of the molvis said it was bid'ah and called the man kafir, but later on they agreed... The same is happening with Ghamidi, it will take time for ppl to understand him, but one day they will understand In Sha Allah.
He is GumRah.
LibeRaL
Your discourses are a source of life and sheer guidance. Love for teacher Javed Ahmed Ghamidi!
Mufti naeem zindaabad
Gamidi iz a very great man he can talk boss
he (mufti sahib) didnt get amoomi taleem??? :)
Absolutely true!
Great mufti sb
What a broad minded explanation by ghamidi saheb.
what mr.ghamdi is saying is very reasonable.
اللہ پاک سر سید کی مغفرت فرمائے، آ مین، ورنہ ہم آ ج ان حضرات کے ہاتھوں ہندو کے غلام ہوتے _
Mashallah ! Javeed Saab is a great scholar ... Inshallah one day his books will be read in madrassas ...These ulema will appreciate him ... May u live long !
Sports, extra curricular activities should be prohibited as per Mufti Sb...
Even breathing is forbidden according to these mullahs
@@villianair3450 oh shut up
bolnay ka pta nai ha is motay ko agay wale bande ki ye log suntay nai apni apni martay rahtay ha
AmirSohail 0334 tameez se BT karo aap or molviyon se acha ilm kisi k pass nahi hai
I find it really hard to liten a person who can not wait for his turn in a debate. I m not an Aalim so I cant give verdict that whose point of view is right but one thing is clear that Mufti Sahib does not sound a person who can hold sesible debate with patience.
Regards
Do u mean mufti naeem?
Wah wah wah kia jahiloon wali batain kr rahaa ha ya molvi
Both these beardless people r wrong. Molvi is talking absolutely Haque
Wrong brooo
Muja ya bataoo app k kissi bacha ko zabardastii alaim banna kasa a
ghamidi is open minded
Just Like a LibeRaL SecuLaR
@@bilawalgulfaam2374 open minded does not mean to be liberal or secular
@@tisko7188 TheRe is No Such ThiNg as OpeN MiNded.
Just a Made Up TeRm
Ghamidi is certainly a revolutionary. Great suggestions from him.
ghamdi kis madrase me para hy aur us ka asatiza kon hy?
Bhai mera Yeh maanna hai ke 12th ke baad agar kisi ko taaleem ke liye kaha jae to woh hargiz nhi karega isliye maa baap ko bachche ko bachpan se hi dono taaleem ke matlab batane chahiye ke ek dunyavi taaleem hai aur ek aakhirat tak ki.
Best of muslim scholars in recent past are not from madrassas.
Dr. Zakir naik
Dr israr ahmed
Ahmed deedat
Moulana modudi
List is huge
My question from Mufti Muhammed Naeem... you are talking pointing out conventional institution.... that if a child studies there he/she can never become an Aalim... what do you think about the islamic madarassas... if a student studies in there... can he become a sceintist, a medical doctor or an engineer???? think about it... both type of institutions need some serious restructuring...
Agreed
Zabardasti ham kisi par islaam ko thoop nahi sakte! Mene bhi saari zindagi school collage ki padhai ki hai lekin me deen sikhne ka talabgaar hu sacche dil se! Pachapan hi me ham bacche ke liye ye faisla nahi kar sakte ki vo kya banega
مدرسہ مہتمم صاحب کی جاگرہے جس مانباپ بچے 6 سے زادہ ہون وہی مدرسے کا رخ کرین جہاں کھانا کپڑا پچے کو مل سے کے
It is duty of parents to save themselves and their family from hell hire; therefore, religious education is essential. It is appropriate to teach both religious and contemporary studies together. Mr Ghamdi's stance is misleading and confusing....
Please understand it clearly
Ghamdi SAB isn't in favour of current education system. You even didn't listen what he is saying.
One Man Army Ghamdi Sb ❤️
I m impressed by gamidi sahib
He gave good idea about education of Islam
علماء کرام ٹھیک فرمارہیں ھیں ،،،،،
ghamdi is great.kaash sub muslmaan aise he deen samje
Go on send me the link. and since you understand quantum mechanics well. A simple bsc level question: write the what is the quantum mechanical wave equation corresponding to the the following classical mechanical equation: E.E -p.p +m.m =0. Go on if you know knot theory u should be able to solve this immediately.
Thanks for such amazing video
please upload all parts and the sound isnt synchronised with the video
Mufti naeem k madrese me londaybazi hoti hai
i think gamidi is not clear in his point of view. first he said that a boy should give a chance of education until 12th standard secondly he talked about the flaws of our educational system. i think his comments is not to upto date
danish naeem
He wants reforms for a long time. But he wants broad based taleem too. He wants both. What is the problem you have here.
I think u r not clear..
You have not understood his point of view.
Gaming sahab ki rai par aalim nahi ban sakta.na idhar ka raha na udhar ka raha.
True
Mufti naem Sahab zindabad . Masha Allah
love mufti naeem
مہتمم صاحب برابر بجث لرتئ رپئہمگے یہ انکے روزگار کا معملہ ہے خدا کی تعریف کرو اوس نے جاھلون کے لئے روزگار مسلہ
آج کے مدارس میں دنیا اور دین دونوں موجود ھیں
کیا وہاں سے نکل کر کوئی انسان ڈاکٹر انجنئیر سائنسدان اکاؤنٹنٹ یا کھلاڑی یا کوئی اور فنون کا ماہر بن سکتا ہے
Metic mein mere School mein Zohr ki namaaz ba jamat ada ki jati thi,Dinyaat bhi parhaye jati thi, mulla bana do, pher chahe , dehshat gard hi kion na ban jaye
The man who denies the coming of the mahdi cannot be trusted wid any thing regarding our religion...This ghamdi so called scolar of islam did just that...
100 % agree with Mufti Sahab.
Afsos Pakistani musalman nabi ko manne wale .nabi ke waris alim ki bat nhi mante . jawid gamdi se den sekhne wala sidhe raste per nhi hai .ok
True
I meant these words were not even invented when he was alive. Both these fields developed much after his death. Send me his book, if it exists.
mr ghamdi is not a practical muslim, and there is no comparision to the knowledge of janabey ameen mufit naeem saheb...masha allah... i admire mufti saheb so much,,,, i met with him new york... he is my rolemodel...
Yeh we want robots to be trained as Aalims no need for by choice Aalim
@shafiq11300
I hold a lot of respect to both scholars but personally believe that Mr Ghamdi has gone a little off the track here, I firmly believe that a school set up is the BEST if true deeni taleem that teaches the lesson of tolerance and instills wisdom, plus the modern scientific and artistic education is rendered to our kids. A Madrassa with deeni taleem and regular school curriculum is better than just plane modern day English medium schools.
Please send your kids to madrassas
How do you know it is about Quantum Entanglement and theory of Knots as you do not even know the abc of these topics. Forward me the book and I will give you a honest opinion. If someone talked of Quantum Entanglement and theory of Knots in his time, he would get a nobel prize as these words were invented when he was alive. Go on forwad me the book, if it exists?
I promise you I will give you my sincere opinion.
mufti mohmmad naeem should follow the path of mufti taki usmani
islam can not be spread by behas o mubahisa
behas o mubahisa ilm kay noor ko khatam kr deta hy
Ghamidi is sadi ka buhat bara Aalim hai inko aisay bewaqoofo se bithana he bewakoofi hai
1906 me Qadiyaniyo ka bhi yahi kehna tha
mufti sahib ki baat se darr zahir hotha hai ki agar zabardasti madressay may na dala bachay ko to kabhi alim banna nahin choose karega
Yahi hall hamara india may hai.
Mufti ñaeem sahab ki rai haq hai mashallah.
تقلید اصل مسئلہ ھے ملاں کی روٹی جاتی ھے
they just discuss on and on and on. but they are not govt. govt make policy. who does govt listens to. International creditors.
By the way, sorry for calling you a mad man, I am really not polite. Sorry for that. But I still think the idea of Ahmad Raza khan writing a booklet on Quantum Entanglement, and on theory of Knots is funny. I seriously doubt that he knew A-level physics or mathematics. Send me his books, I will be waiting.
Intellect, sensible, and prudent personality ghamidi saab vs tatti top class jahil molbi from (Molviism)
Ak mard aur aurt apny sotaly bacho ki shadi kar saktay hai
Amumi taleem ky nqaes k sath dakha jay to mufti sahib ka nukta e nazar durust hy
Im pretty sure that both of these philosophers are holding one legs of elephant each and both are wrong.
We got to keep both legs together to move forward and we can not afford to leave anything behind.
مشاہاللہ ہر مفتی فربہ ہے
n people please be respectable when talking about anyone...
Javed Sahab ka nazarya hi galat he.....wo pehle dunyavi taleem ki bat kar rha he ,,, Asmani Taleem ki nahi... 17 saal bad wo ye decide kare ga k use Allah ki Asmani kitaab smjhni chahye ya u kahe Insan banane ki Taleem smjhni chaye ???.....Aaj me English me likh raha hn to wo gamidi sahab wali soch ka hi natija he...
I agree with ghamdi
Ghamdi SB b theek kahty han
Lakin molvi SB b galat ni humary school,college ma b khaarabi haa
Ma ny Oxford ki books parey Han
Ma ny school ma yahi sikhaa ha k paisaa sab kuch ha our ya k insaan baara insaan tab bantaa ha jab us k paas paisaa ho Jo galat ha.
App KHUD asss paass thakay 90*/* log b paisaa kaamany ma Allah ko bhool gai haa
Ghamdi sahab is on ribht, mulla, fasaad fi sbeelallah.
Molvi suni sunai batain Kar rahay hyn, not logical
Aapke jese aalim banane se kaya fayda
Ghamidi 💪👍👍👍👍👍
Banoori madarsas are father of taliban and mufti naeem is incharge of banooro madarsa
Gamdi sab❤
World class Jahil molla Vs world class scholar javed ahmed ghamdi! no comparison
Truth Seeker javid ghamdi kehta hy Esa ( A.S) wafat hogaye hy. ( Naozebillah)
Ok so prove it then God took him alive but the reality is there is no proof everthing is speculation.Agar hazoor sw wafaat ho saktay hain then why cant esa ? No coming back of him..Dil kush kartay raho!!
Truth Seeker hamara iman hy blke 4 maslak walo logo ka aqeda ye hy ke Esa (AS) qayamat ke qareeb Dajjal ko mare ga.
Truth Seeker bs me ne apko khabar kya baqi aap ki marzi
First of all thanks for a polite argument but sirf imaan honay se kuch nahin hota you have to prove it
God never made maslaks,hadees they are all man made stuff the only authority is Quran and sunna of Prophets thats about it Rest is upto you! I rest my arguments here. God Bless you!! and btw just one more
thing did you ever realize that why this maslak thing is in Pakistan only ..There are 52 Muslim countries and i been to so many no one cares about these things much! so think about it? you know why cause Mullas in pakistan are the main problem!!
Ghamdi jis k khud k chehray pr Islam ki shiba nhi woh ab Islam PR baat kryga ab
Mufti Naeem... is making no sense!!
مفتی نعیم صاحب بڑے ادب سے دینی مدرسوں میں بچوں کی برین واشنگ کی جاتی ہے ان کا باہر کی دنیا سے واستہ نہیں ہو گا تو اس نے خاک ترقی کرنی ہے اس کو کٹر فرقہ پرست بنایا جاتا ہے کیا غامدی صاحب عالم نہیں ہیں کیا نعمان علی خان مدرسے کے فارغ تحصیل ہیں کیا ڈاکٹر اسرار مدرسے کے تھے کیا مولانا مودودی مدرسے میں پڑھے تھے کیا انجینیر محمد علی مرزا مدرسے سے پڑھا ہے، کیا ڈاکٹر ذاکر نائیک مدرسے کے پڑھے ہیں
Real Islam jesa ke ghmadi ki brain wash kya hy ghair muslimo ne
Anchor is biased
Mufti is gone crazy
Ghamidi point of view is realistic and logical.
Moulana to badtameez nikla,ghamidi sahab ki baat me dakhal deta hai .ghamidi sahab akele apne aap me madarsa hai
Mufti sab ko apni dukaan band honay ka der ha.
Kai Deen chele bazi ka naam ha
Ghamidi sahb k samne daleel pesh karo molvi sahb......no match with great ghamidi....
مفتی صاحب کو پہلے اپنی تربیت کی ضرورت ھے۔ وہ ناھی اینکر کو بلا مداخلت بولنے دے رھے ھیں اور نا ھی دوسرے پارٹیسپنٹ یعنی جناب غامدی کوانکی طرح خاموشی سے سن رھے ھیں۔ ایسا معلوم ھوتا ھے دین کا مکمل ٹھیکا اللہ پاک نے ان کو دے رکھا ھے ؟
Mullao ko ap kch nhi samjha sakte
mulla muslim ko kehta hai or hindu esi name se gali deta hai .......phla mulla k matlab smjh loh......molvi kehta to behtar tha
mufti kabhi mota nahin hota
I think molve nayeem is Right
Bongian marne wala maulvi..
Ghamdi Gora Hia.
Ghamidi is wrong he speaks from stomach and even he is not a practical Muslim so discussion with such a person is disgrace to one who argue with him ...
اربوں روپے کا ترکہ مولوی نعیم کا ھے؟ کہیں دین کی تعلیم کی مخالفت نہیں، نعیم غلط بیانیاں کر رھا ھے
نعیم غلط بیانیاں کر رھا ھے
O meray bhaio gaimdi k fitnay se bach jao tum log nahi jaantay k ye gair mulki n jeows k liay kaam krta h.....
Ghamidi is certainly a revolutionary. Great suggestions from him.
My question from Mufti Muhammed Naeem... you are talking pointing out conventional institution.... that if a child studies there he/she can never become an Aalim... what do you think about the islamic madarassas... if a student studies in there... can he become a sceintist, a medical doctor or an engineer???? think about it... both type of institutions need some serious restructuring...