Annoyed ATC brings down the Hammer! - DiamondEYZ
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- Out for a practice flight on the Sunday of a long weekend, doing some IFR training, and shooting a simulated RNAV while flying back to my home airport in Oshawa, Ontario, Canada CYOO. The circuit (pattern) was crazy busy and ATC was struggling to keep control and get everyone organized on their arrival to the airport. To all the pilots out there, I get it, we all have days where we struggle, but ATC was great, as they always are! At one point the controller had to put down the hammer to get everyone under control and down safely....great job ATC......Thanks for watching...hope you enjoy.....EYZ
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I'm in phoenix with a lot of training schools and I think they are teaching new students to mumble, very dangerous I guess they can use that as an excuse, you cant tell what airport they are calling out.
'I'll call the base!" Usually, a good indication you are in a busy area.
ATC Hearding cats! Good Job!
ATC was having a hay day with everyone! Personally I like to disconnect AP at the FAF and hand fly it from there. (edit)Nice landing BTW!
Thanks!
The new breed is really doubting my belief on English proficient. Perhaps that needs to be a focus by evaluators more lately.
Bruh
This crap wouldn't "fly" when I was on (and in) the air around Oshawa.
There was a controller there who told one or two pilots over the years to park at the base of the tower for a chat. Quite a few more who were handed the receiver of a telephone as soon as they walked into the FBO/flight school. I know of at least one student who left oshawa to do his training elsewhere because he got chewed out so badly.
Sometimes I think I'd like to get back in to flying, but I see videos like this, and it puts me right off. The standards really seem to have slipped in the past 25 years. I'm prepared to cut students some slack, but this was ridiculous.
What does that mean?
@@norigibson English proficient is a requirement when you get your pilots license
@@norigibsonit means speak English with not such a heavy accent that no one understands.
I thought flying would be a peaceful activity. I've done a bit of training but it's not what I imagined. Keep on flying and stay safe.
Hi Greg, it normally is......but always amps up when you get into the circuit......this was very unusual.
@@diamondeyz6333 thanks mate. Enjoy your air time.
That landing is so HOT !!!
Holy crap the pilots at that field need to go back to flight school!!!!
Busy day there
I’ll have a croissant no BUTTAHH
Another great video! keep them coming.
Thanks, will do!
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Enjoyed.
the training standers need to be alot higher, too many near misses and stupid things going out there.
Maybe this airport is a little too busy for a bunch of silly maneuvers at the same time!!.a little situational awareness would be helpful..😊
just seemed nobody wanted to do what the controller ordered for some reason,,, maybe its a french thing lol
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That guy ATC was getting aggravated with should have just squawked 7600.
It is not ever a legal flight maneuver to fly an instrument approach without informing ATC of your intentions.
Exactly…you have to be cleared by ATC for an instrument approach…
2:15 he did though
In my opinion this is just another example of too much money to purchase a $250,000 advanced aircraft and pass a pilot check with little regard for the responsibility needed to make the system safe. This seems to reflect our self-indulged society today..
Here there.. fellow pilot down in So Cal.. Love the videos and appreciate your content.... Quick question... notice you use a pad that looks like a form... was wondering what it was.. seems useful. Thanks so much!
Hi Mike, thanks for the comment, much appreciated. It's a preprinted form for each flight. If you want a copy, email me at da40eyz@gmail.com and I can send you a pdf of the form. Fly safe !! David
ATC guy putting up with non conformist pilots should have more control over the mass confusion they cause in an already busy arena!
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Not to stir up the pot, and certainly not to be a jerk: I was a controller in the US for over 25 years, much of it at busy GA airports in California (mainly SFO Bay Area). It sounds like the Canadian system has a much more restrictive/positive form of controlling than the US when it comes to VFR ops. Almost seemed a sort of semi-IFR type of control where everyone's separated vertically by 500' in the "control zone" (our 'Delta' airspace) until such time that they can come in and join the pattern. Also appeared there was a restriction on how many aircraft could be in the pattern or even the zone at the same time but I could be wrong on that. With those restrictions the controllers did a good job (I assume one was in training) but it appeared to be double the workload for half the traffic I used to work. Not bragging mind you, I don't want to be interpreted as the 'ugly American' here, but it was like night & day to the way we work VFR ops in the States. Thank God you guys have Canadian whiskey and Molson's up there. I'd need a barrel or keg of each every night if I had to work like that. Oh, wait, I do...but it took 25+ years to get there. ;-)
Way too much head down time with that glass cockpit and tablet.
the DA40 is so fun to hand fly IFR, why keep AP in so long?
You are totally right.....but I am practicing for my IFR check ride, so doing both hand flying and AP flying....expect I will be called on to demonstrate both....Thanks for watching !
@@diamondeyz6333 fair enough, I guess it depends on the examiner/country but I couldn’t use the AP once established on the FAT throughout my IR training.
Keep enjoying the journey mate
@@abingdonboy My IFR checkride required demonstration of one entire approach to minimums and the published to hold ALL on AP, to show proficiency using the equipment on board. Plus one hand flown non-precision and one hand flown partial panel precision approach.
"Not below" is odd phrasing. I'm not certain it complies with ICAO recommendations, it certainly doesn't follow FAA guidelines (I know the video is in Canada). In any case it is certainly not considered best practice in any form of technical communications. Best-practice for clear communication is to use positive statements and avoid negation, "At or above" being a positive statement.
The "at" is noncritical and can be safely missed, a "not" creates a single point of failure that completely inverts the core message.
The effect with radio trouble: "**ross XYZ ******belo* six **ousand" "**ross XYZ ******abov* six **ousand"
Perfectly normal ICAO approved radio telephony terminology.
I would have to double think that instruction too!
It’s “not below” everywhere apart from the USA.
EYZ…when all thats happening, stop talking in the cockpit.
what atc is doing
what the heck is "controlled zone"
Terminology is different in Canada.
Its a pity about that so called music in the background.
why does everyone need to broadcast their position constantly? Can't you see all the other planes on the screen and their ADSB? seems like a complete clown show
It seems like you’re not aware of how many pilots have died because of erroneous blips on a digital screen. Keep your eyes outside and communicate verbally. It’s situational awareness for which ipads will never be a substitute.
@@banjo2019so true!
Watching that nonsense gave me a headache.
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