Veteran Patton - SUPER TORQUE! Quick Teardown & First Impression
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2024
- This is one crazy wheel. The performance and build quality is refreshing.
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00:00 Intro
00:39 Start of Teardown
02:10 Removal of Plastic Accessories
07:42 Start of First Impressions
09:01 Albert’s Initial Impression
10:30 Christine’s Initial Impression
11:25 Christine - Torque Test
11:33 Christine - Stair Test
12:13 Albert - Torque Test
12:23 Albert - Stair Test
12:27 Thoughts on Torque & Stair Test
14:17 Final Thoughts
The “it’s amazing” after hitting the bush 11:52 was my favourite thing ever! Happy you’re not hurt!
Nice video you guys! It was such a pleasure to meet y’all at the Portland Friday night ride. Keep up the great work!
When the weather gets better -> we want to come down to learn how to fly with shibby & Doug! Most likely we will join Northwest Electric Fest as well
Nice review you two!! Won't be long before your subscribers climb!
Thanks ! It was short and sweet
Nice review you two, the step crash was crazy! Thanks
Thanks! Yea, I got too excited and went a bit too fast during the first trial, ended up couldn’t stop in time 🤪
Great video guys!
Straight into the bush. Lmao your whole reaponse to falling off is priceless.
Haha, she was having tons of fun :)
You two did a great job Really like the 2 rider comparisons! Looking forward to more! ☮️
Thanks! These new wheels provide very different riding feel based on the riders size and weight. The challenges that heavy and light riders face are very different
Instant subscriber! Thanks again for sorting me out a while back Albert!
I hope you're enjoying your V12! I'm glad that I was able to allow you to truly enjoy the #EUCLifestyle.
Solid video, guys. Loved it. I was surprised at how slowly you were able to take it up that incline. And the fact the motor was barely making any noise. That is a strong lil wheel. Im seriously considering it as my next.
I like to go slow so it stresses out the wheel. I was mentally ready to get dropped at any time
delightful video. can't wait for more patton content.
Thanks!
Nice review. She sent it down those stairs!
Thanks! Yea…I went a bit too fast and didn’t have enough time and room to stop 😅
Nice video, I like the tear down look and also the comparison with you guys being different weights really handy for people working out how it will handle for them! Definitely thinking buying this bad boy! Also like the style of the video simple and too the point with comments! Thanks again 👍🏻
Thanks! We will have a more in depth analysis coming soon - once we have some good mileage down on it.
@@2cells1pack yeah I'll have subscribed so I'll look out for that too! Definitely a wheel I'm interested in! :-)
Nice video, good vibes, congratulations!👍💕
Thanks!
A nice new channel to follow. Great review 👍🏻
Thanks :)
Great video subbed
Thanks!
Christine, you are adorable and a very able/confident rider for such a tiny lady. I hope if there's a next time you're ever on the ground that Albert your robust companion will lend a hand as you are a gem. I look forward to more from you two and I certainly will DM you my order #. Cheers, six pack Gord
Thanks! Albert gave me a hand but he was more excited about the torque of the wheel haha. Hopefully I will be on the ground less. Every single fall is a lesson learned :)
- Xtine
Good job Albert. We'll done. I appreciate your input and delivery. I'm impressed how both of you can have a great time with little setup changes. Please get a better helmet for your lovely partner. You too have a great dynamic. Subbed
We actually did purchase a better helmet for her, however the size was too big (Shoei EXZero). I had to send it back for a size change, so it'll be a week or two.
Nice job 👍 But music a bit too loud
Thanks for the feedback!
I really liked the comparison of the Patton between a lighter and heavier rider. I hope you make more video's testing out other wheels.
Thanks. We will definitely make more videos testing out other wheels. It takes a lot of time and scheduling to make 2 person videos - so they will probably come out less frequently. Also vancouver weather works against us and we try to film on every sunny day we can.
Yeesh! Your a busy man! Helping out over at eevees' then coming over to do this channel. Wow! Does this mean you won't be in eevees' videos any longer? And excellent video!
Haha, I try. I'll be in eevee's videos as long as Bradley wants me to cameo. I'm just a guest speaker on the eevee's channel.
@2cells1pack I see! You always have excellent input! If they don't include you, that is a big time miss out! But hey! We get another channel that we get to watch great euc Content! So that's a plus!
Thanks for the kind words!
Christine's face at 11:53.. priceless. Spoken like a true EUC enthusiast ; )
I think 2023 is the year for torque wheels. Previously a lot of riders chased higher speeds sacrificing torque. But it is so refreshing to ride a torque-y wheel.
@@2cells1pack I hope you're right and couldn't agree more. I have a 16x, RSHT, and Shermax and torque is the overarching theme of all of those wheels. Going above 40 mph on an electric wheel has never been my bag, or anyone else's I know who rides really. Tourque on the other hand is where it's at 🤯🤠😋
@@2cells1pack What kind of range are you guys getting?
I haven't had time to complete our full review yet - but should be done sometime this coming week or next.
Spoke from heart 🤣
Righty tightly, lefty loosely 👍🏼
Sometimes gotta remind myself 😅
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That stair jump was badass, I think you would have nailed it if not for that stupid bush.
Ahaha yeah. After the bush is also a 4 ft drop… so kind of scary
nice
If you strip threads in the battery case, install heli-coils. I'd say it should have been done from the factory.
Yes, that's smart.
Thank you so much for the video. What was the max distance you could get with 1 full charge?
We haven't done a full range test yet. This will be completed over the next week or so.
you two are really cute
Haha, thanks!
I've really appreciated your input on previous questions about the Patton, so one more. I assume Leaperkim planned on power pads covering the sides of the battery boxes, so if I cover the side of the battery boxes myself with self adhesive loop material (anticipating future accessory attachments) am I insulating an important cooling/heat sink surface for the electronics?
You're totally good to do that. I do that with all my wheels, doesn't affect cooling/heat sink in any way (maybe super small effect but negligible)
@@2cells1pack Thank You!🍻
My apologies Albert after watching again you were chivalrous. 6 pack Gord
Haha no worries !
Great video! What intercom system do you use with your TSG helmet?
We use SENA Mesh. Spider RT1, ST1, or the 50S/50R have them.
13:43
ey Christine is pretty good rider
Thanks! I’ll see this as an encouragement. I’m not a new rider, but definitely still a learner. I still have a lot to learn & practice on, in order to become a better/more skillful & confident rider. I crash a lot because of lack of control over the wheel 😅
- Xtine
Nice! Too bad you didnt do a head 2 head with the current small suspension wheel standard, the T4. As alot of us have some experience (I own a T4 & its my goto gnarly offroad machine), it woulda been good to have an idea of the pluses & minuses. A review without a standard reference can be oftimes too vague for the consumer. EG when you say its got torque, do you mean it has RSht standards of torque or?? FWIW I regularly climb 30+ degrees on the T4, on dirt so that by itself doesnt say much. & I'm only bout 15-20kgs lighter, if that. I like the build of the Patton but it sure looks like its gonna have a busy summer competing with the new & lighter Commander Mini & BG's Extreme
Hey Scott! This was a very early on first impressions. Thanks for the idea to compare it to a T4 side by side. We will incorporate that on our full review. For sure once the Extreme and Commander Mini are out, we will definitely start to compare and contrast with the biggest contenders.
Thanks for the nice review! Looking forward to more from you on this wheel. What suspension weight did this wheel have? I'm 155lbs and I'm trying to decide what shock is best for me. I'd like the max plush ride without bottoming out, if that's possible. I'm leaning toward the 62lb suspension.
It was the 62lb one. "Without bottoming out" has a lot of caveats depending on what you're looking to do with it. Are you doing mainly urban riding? Or trails? Or jumps?
@@2cells1pack I mainly do urban riding, and would like to jump off curbs or maybe occasionally some stairs, without bottoming out.
@@skobuffs7 if you're doing sets of stairs, I think the 62lb should be good. I'll be doing a more long term review in which I'll get other riders of different weights to also give it a try. At that point I'll have a better idea of what the ideal weight ranges are for each suspension and type of riding.
Hi Chris, it’s Christine. I rode the Patton a little bit longer and took it out for some jumps. I weight 95lbs and with the 62lb suspension, I don’t find it stiff, it is just perfect for my weight. But I do feel that when I do jumps, the shock does go down quite a bit.
nice video!
did the wheel cutoff going fast down those staris?
No, it didn't cut out. I think it just bottomed out.
Is there any shortcut for replacing the tires or do you really have to remove almost everything?
We do have a separate video showing the tire change: ua-cam.com/video/n0WZgm-fA6Y/v-deo.html
@@2cells1pack yes thanks for that. I saw it and it is the one thing that makes me hesitate to get the Patton instead of the Begode Extreme. What do you think about that?
@@360vroomers I think that the Patton and the Extreme are made for different purposes.
@@2cells1pack care to elaborate? They are similar size wheels with suspension and with similar battery capacity and similar voltage. It’s like begode tried to design a Patton killer. I’m curious why you think they have different purposes.
@@360vroomers I have not tried an extreme (of course). From my limited understanding -> the increased suspension travel, pedal height, and taller battery boxes will be more designed for offroad/ heavy trail/jump use. The Patton suspension is more set up for comfort and a plush ride and therefore would be better as a commuting/light offroad/trail/jump use. this is my personal findings. by no means am I a hardcore trail/jumper.
is this the wheel with 66lb torque, being a light rider such as yourself christine is the 66lb suspension stiff or you have it adjusted where riding on roads suspension doing good job
We had both 62 and 66. The one with the kinetic colourful pads was the 62, and the one with glow pads is the 66.
The 66 was stiff for her on regular road riding, but stairs and trails she preferred it.
What is the top speeed?...can it go faster then the nikola?
I didn't get too deep into those tests, since it was a first impressions look. However, I did do some max acceleration tests (0-60 in 5 sec type of test) and it had first beep at 67kph
Royal pain in d ass to replace the tire
for most EUC, it is a bit of a struggle to do a tire change. It's the nature of the beast due to it's compactness and symmetrical design for weight balance.
Excellent video. Is this a second channel? The reason I ask is coz this looks way too professional for newbies.
The wing nut on the toe clips could be replaced with a large knob to make adjusting them easier with gloves on.
Subscribed.
We are noobies trying our best. A lot of lessons learned with every video, but I'll take that as a compliment that we are doing okay ☺️
I feel that you wouldn't need to adjust them much unless you share wheels, so not a big deal 😉
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It was meant as a big compliment. The quality and fluency of the presentation, analysis of the wheel and riding show how much work you've put into the vid. I'm looking forward to seeing more vids.
please tell me that the pedals are not screwed on to aluminum
because if that is the case there is definitely a problem of strength
yes... they are. And there's no structural ridge similar to the V12. (V12 also has similar issues with the 4 bolts breaking. This was a concern for me.
@@2cells1pack Although I do love the stainless hex-bolts (definitely a step up from wood screws) but the galvanic action between stainless and aluminum doesn't bode well for longevity. PURPLE Loctite (light-duty) may be necessary for these connections. Wondering if there's another material that would be suitable, like the anti-galling Permatex Copper Anti-Seize lubricant or No-Ox electrical connection paste? Suggestions?
Galvanic action between stainless steel screws and large aluminum pieces isn't a huge cause for concern, especially since it is only the threaded part that is in constant contact.
Yes, there is cause for concern for binding -> if you live in certain wetter parts of the world, or in the winter when roads are salted (this can accelerate the binding). However, I'm not sure this is a huge concern personally. Stainless Steel screws securing big pieces of aluminum are fairly common IMO.
Nice video..I did not see any rised handles as promised by Leaperkim..so first batch has lower handels?
This is still early batch. Same as eevees one they reviewed. We will see what the first production units look like soon
@@2cells1pack does every country get a different stock pads? the asian/european reviews got a different set of pads it seems
These pads are unique to eevees. I don't believe there are pads that come with the device? But I could be wrong. There are also some pads with the reflective sides - that are designed with the Patton toe clips in mind but I'm not sure if they're actually included.
@@2cells1pack im referring to the pads in ElectricDreams review in china, e-ridesUK review in UK, hsiang’s review in NYC, they all come with the same pads and compatible with the jump pad mechanism, i think some of them say its included. Is eevees the only distributor without the stock pads?
Yeah. To be honest, I'm not sure. I was allowed to quickly review this wheel in this configuration.
How is the ease of acceleration compared to the S22 Pro?
I'm curious since we have new heavy but 16 in wheels coming out.
I haven't tried an S22 Pro yet, but if I were to compare it to the S22, I would say the Patton is more effortless (less body swinging) to get it to move.
@@2cells1pack so this must be Christine then! Cause he tried my S22 with the Pro motor here in Portland around the Intro to speed track.
That's good feedback tho! Man I wish I would've not sunk as much $ as I did into the S22 maybe the 16 inch form factor makes the ultimate euc!
Danggg. I won't count it as an S22 Pro - unless its from the factory! (It's Albert btw)
@2cells1pack oh hey, I guess technically it isn't, but like what else is different? The board is supposedly the same, cells are the same and as far as I can tell firmware is too?
You do have a point. I feel that comparing the Patton do a 20" wheel isn't a proper comparison though. I feel that wheel size has a huge bearing on the overall feel of an EUC, moreso than other factors. I should compare it to a T4 soon, even though I feel they are in different leagues.
What helmet do you have ?
Not the TSG.
Albert has the Klim Krios Pro.
We are planning to do a review and comparison video on all of our helmets, so hopefully we can provide some more in depth information and feedback on them soon :)
Would you say that it's better than the s22?
That would depend on what you use your wheel for. Different wheels are good at different things 😉
The big question is which one would you keep if the choice came only to two wheels: Sherman-S or Patton?
Patton!
@@2cells1pack awesome!
обзор хороший! 👍 колесо хлам 🙈😄
Does that s22 have the new sliders?
No, the S22 did not have new sliders. It's bone stock except for the pads
@@2cells1pack have you tried the new s22 pro suspension? hows it compare to the patton?
Unfortunately I haven't. Maybe in the near future I'll have the opportunity to.
@@2cells1pack i loved the review, i was concern about how they would preform a decent size jump, and i know now this is for small to med sized jumps (depends on weight of rider) where the s22 pro due to long travel will be best for jumps of even large size
The suspension on the Patton (62lb) was extremely soft for me (240lb) - to their defense, we rode it out of the box without any adjustments.
2023 and even with millions of other waterproof devices as an example they still can't make thr controller board waterproof like it should be.
They are already doing better than devices from previous years. In the current state of EUC, manufacturers are still trying to figure out how to make a good product. Water intent designing -> and other creature comforts usually come afterwards.
The still seem to do better than everyone else.
@@oliverer3 its really not that difficult to make it good waterproof. Maybe 3 usd extra in production.
There's just no valid excuse for this.
Especially that the board is flat on the surface so any water will definitely reach the board.
This would ok for a 20 usd toy. Not for a 3000+ euc where a cutout can end in hospital.
Keep in mind though, that a huge portion of the cost comes from the battery and the motor.
@@bobdebouwer7835 I mostly agree but it is pretty damn difficult to design something to be weatherproof while still being easy to disassemble and not adding considerably to assembly cost, installing weird shaped orings is expensive yo.
With that said they could certainly have done a good deal better than that.
Too bad you stopped the teardown where you did: we will all have to go further in order to change a tire, right?
We have a video showing exactly a teardown to the point where you change the tire :)
Sooooo many screws!
yeah... there's a lot. I would estimate... around 70-80 screws to get down to a bare motor.
Хорошо об бордюр не ударилась
PLEASE.....lose the music!
It's (1) too loud.
And (2).....the fast tempo does nothing but distract.
Sorry about that Byron. For the music - were you referring to the teardown music or the riding part music? We are always looking to improve
@2cells1pack just the teardown music.....wayyy too loud.
You 2 gave a very good review!
Thanks for all you do.
You've always given EXCELLENT teardown reviews!
Thanks for the feedback. We will most likely split the teardown from the review and remove music from all teardowns going forwards.