Hi Robin I hope you are well Sorry I've not commented on this video i through i did.. These are smart coaches shame slim nem tension lock use is not on all coaches just end ones. This is a well made video also the video as well Thought through Keep safe ARP
@@AdiPullen hi Adi Yes it is an odd decision not to include the tension lock with all versions but that didn’t bother me too much as I’m not using any of the supplied couplings in favour of using Kadee’s. They are very smart models and as seen the lights work perfectly on mine. I’ve not bothered to DCC chip them as I don’t mind the lights being on all the time when DCC running. Thanks for watching and the kind words, all the best Rob.
The coaches would look more Great Western if they were painted in the more suitable Chocolate & Cream livery. Crimson is more of an LMS colour. There are two ways of doing things: the Great Western Way or the wrong way. British steam engines and rolling stock aren't fitted with American Kadee Couplings, they are fitted with NEM couplings. Not the Great Western Way at all.
That would depend on what time you are looking at them as the Crimson Lake colour was used from 1912 to 1922, I've got other Chocolate & Cream coaches so went for something a bit different. As for coupling please stop calling the British Tension Lock NEM. NEM is a standard set up in Europe and is the pocket and prongs system the couplings use to fit on to the models. Any coupling that uses this system is A NEM coupling including the Kadee's I have fitted here. I use Kadee's as the Tension Lock is an absolute load of rubbish and should have been discarded a long time ago there are too many different sizes of them and can cause no end of problems as many reviewers on UA-cam point out. Yes Kadee's are American but they are a standard that works very well, a true British coupling would be the chain link but they just don't work for most layouts and are far too fiddly. All the best Rob.
AGAINST THE LAW !!!! What happens if you do NOT want childish Gimmick interior lighting, which until 1978 (when Railway Law was changed) did NOT permit train lights to be left on during Daylight hours ???? I for one am not interested in paying a lot more money, for absurd unrealistic childish nonsense !!!!
I don't know anything about the laws of lighting in coaches but they did have them for night running and some people like to model that hence all the other lights for buildings, streets etc. For that reason I wouldn't go as far as saying they are childish and unrealistic. I don't mind them but if there is a cheaper option without the lights such as in the 4 & 6 wheeled coaches from Hornby and Hattons then I will go for that. That said the price for these coaches is still less than some other makes without this feature and if the lights are not wanted on they can be switched off under DCC with a decoder or just remove the DCC blanking plug for DC or DCC running. Thanks for watching, all the best Rob.
@@RobA500 RAILWAY LAW. Indeed the public are generally ignorant of the fact, that when you cross the threshold onto Railway Property, High Street "Civil Law" is replaced by comprehensive "Railway Law". The British Government has owned ALL the land the Railways occupy since Nationalisation in 1948. Indeed they may have abolished the British Railways Board back in 1997, but they did NOT in reality privatise anything. Indeed the abolition of the BRB required two new major comprehensive Railway Acts, which include modifications to your Civil Rights. Much of which includes Security & Safety controls, and also allows Government to ensure the Railways as a "National Strategic Resource" in times of Crisis or War, are kept firmly under Government control. Just implementing the comprehensive new Railway Laws necessary at the time of the BRB's abolition (1997) cost £750Million to implement. Due to massive oversights in those Laws of 1997, they used "Railtrack" as the scapegoat, and rewrote the new Laws yet again, introducing "Network Rail" at that time. To enforce Railway Law, there has existed the British Transport Police since 1948. Civil Police for example, such as the Metropolitan Police have "No Rights" on Railway Property. (Unless escorted by the BTP). The original post giving information on the security duties of Guards (under the then Laws during BR's existence) were as revealed in that Post comprehensive, and included of course Law relating to the use of train lighting. Which was part of the Law covering all Electrical usage by BR including buildings and train lighting. From memory the Government levied BR (in 1980) a flat rate of £15 Million per annum for its electrical usage, which the CEGB (also Government owned) had to provide BR with ! So until 1978 a train Guard, could arrest passengers for various infringements against Railway Law, including no ticket, damage to Railway equipment, trespass on BR land. Further the Guard was legally entitled to use any restraint necessary of passengers endangering the lives of others. Guards were being taught until 1978, that passengers endangering the safety of a train or other passengers, should be "Put Down". i.e Use your "Bardic lamp" to smash them in the head if necessary, to prevent further danger to other lives !!!! That Law had to be modified to allow Guards to leave their Guardsvan, to go and check tickets. It also relieved Guards of their duty to watch signals. Further this required changes as to the methods of carrying Royal Mail, and "monies" at that time, also covered in detail by Railway Law !!! It is partly due to these legal complexities, that the Government began 6 years ago, quietly taking back control, of many of the so called "Franchises". As Modern Railways magazine revealed at that time. Quote "Re Nationalisation by stealth" Unquote. So the current Labour Parties intention to "Renationalise" the railways of Britain, is in reality, just the final phase of this "grab back". The bottom line was of course the true cost of Franchising (At least double the price BR would have cost annually) since Brexit, can no longer be afforded. I'm an ex BR(SR) senior Engineer (CM&EE dept). And like many BR senior management & engineers, we fled Britain shortly after BR ceased to exist, to work for overseas Railways who were "headhunting" senior BR staff at that time. Happy Modelling 😜
Hi Robin
I hope you are well
Sorry I've not commented on this video i through i did.. These are smart coaches shame slim nem tension lock use is not on all coaches just end ones.
This is a well made video
also the video as well Thought through
Keep safe ARP
@@AdiPullen hi Adi
Yes it is an odd decision not to include the tension lock with all versions but that didn’t bother me too much as I’m not using any of the supplied couplings in favour of using Kadee’s. They are very smart models and as seen the lights work perfectly on mine. I’ve not bothered to DCC chip them as I don’t mind the lights being on all the time when DCC running.
Thanks for watching and the kind words, all the best Rob.
@@RobA500 they look good with other non corridor coaches from the Great Western
The coaches would look more Great Western if they were painted in the more suitable Chocolate & Cream livery. Crimson is more of an LMS colour. There are two ways of doing things: the Great Western Way or the wrong way. British steam engines and rolling stock aren't fitted with American Kadee Couplings, they are fitted with NEM couplings. Not the Great Western Way at all.
That would depend on what time you are looking at them as the Crimson Lake colour was used from 1912 to 1922, I've got other Chocolate & Cream coaches so went for something a bit different.
As for coupling please stop calling the British Tension Lock NEM. NEM is a standard set up in Europe and is the pocket and prongs system the couplings use to fit on to the models. Any coupling that uses this system is A NEM coupling including the Kadee's I have fitted here. I use Kadee's as the Tension Lock is an absolute load of rubbish and should have been discarded a long time ago there are too many different sizes of them and can cause no end of problems as many reviewers on UA-cam point out. Yes Kadee's are American but they are a standard that works very well, a true British coupling would be the chain link but they just don't work for most layouts and are far too fiddly.
All the best Rob.
Why the infernal background music. I switched off.
@steveatkins2564 Why not? There are things called volume control and mute if silence is your thing.
AGAINST THE LAW !!!!
What happens if you do NOT want childish Gimmick interior lighting, which until 1978 (when Railway Law was changed) did NOT permit train lights to be left on during Daylight hours ????
I for one am not interested in paying a lot more money, for absurd unrealistic childish nonsense !!!!
I don't know anything about the laws of lighting in coaches but they did have them for night running and some people like to model that hence all the other lights for buildings, streets etc. For that reason I wouldn't go as far as saying they are childish and unrealistic. I don't mind them but if there is a cheaper option without the lights such as in the 4 & 6 wheeled coaches from Hornby and Hattons then I will go for that.
That said the price for these coaches is still less than some other makes without this feature and if the lights are not wanted on they can be switched off under DCC with a decoder or just remove the DCC blanking plug for DC or DCC running.
Thanks for watching, all the best Rob.
@@RobA500 RAILWAY LAW. Indeed the public are generally ignorant of the fact, that when you cross the threshold onto Railway Property, High Street "Civil Law" is replaced by comprehensive "Railway Law". The British Government has owned ALL the land the Railways occupy since Nationalisation in 1948. Indeed they may have abolished the British Railways Board back in 1997, but they did NOT in reality privatise anything. Indeed the abolition of the BRB required two new major comprehensive Railway Acts, which include modifications to your Civil Rights. Much of which includes Security & Safety controls, and also allows Government to ensure the Railways as a "National Strategic Resource" in times of Crisis or War, are kept firmly under Government control. Just implementing the comprehensive new Railway Laws necessary at the time of the BRB's abolition (1997) cost £750Million to implement. Due to massive oversights in those Laws of 1997, they used "Railtrack" as the scapegoat, and rewrote the new Laws yet again, introducing "Network Rail" at that time. To enforce Railway Law, there has existed the British Transport Police since 1948.
Civil Police for example, such as the Metropolitan Police have "No Rights" on Railway Property. (Unless escorted by the BTP).
The original post giving information on the security duties of Guards (under the then Laws during BR's existence) were as revealed in that Post comprehensive, and included of course Law relating to the use of train lighting. Which was part of the Law covering all Electrical usage by BR including buildings and train lighting. From memory the Government levied BR (in 1980) a flat rate of £15 Million per annum for its electrical usage, which the CEGB (also Government owned) had to provide BR with !
So until 1978 a train Guard, could arrest passengers for various infringements against Railway Law, including no ticket, damage to Railway equipment, trespass on BR land. Further the Guard was legally entitled to use any restraint necessary of passengers endangering the lives of others. Guards were being taught until 1978, that passengers endangering the safety of a train or other passengers, should be "Put Down". i.e Use your "Bardic lamp" to smash them in the head if necessary, to prevent further danger to other lives !!!! That Law had to be modified to allow Guards to leave their Guardsvan, to go and check tickets. It also relieved Guards of their duty to watch signals. Further this required changes as to the methods of carrying Royal Mail, and "monies" at that time, also covered in detail by Railway Law !!!
It is partly due to these legal complexities, that the Government began 6 years ago, quietly taking back control, of many of the so called "Franchises". As Modern Railways magazine revealed at that time. Quote "Re Nationalisation by stealth" Unquote. So the current Labour Parties intention to "Renationalise" the railways of Britain, is in reality, just the final phase of this "grab back". The bottom line was of course the true cost of Franchising (At least double the price BR would have cost annually) since Brexit, can no longer be afforded.
I'm an ex BR(SR) senior Engineer (CM&EE dept). And like many BR senior management & engineers, we fled Britain shortly after BR ceased to exist, to work for overseas Railways who were "headhunting" senior BR staff at that time.
Happy Modelling 😜