The AI boom and the Internet boom are often compared, but they have distinct differences and similarities. Here’s a summary: Key Differences: Nature of Technology: Internet Boom: The internet was fundamentally a network that connected many existing computers and facilitated the creation of new ones. It was dominated by network effects, where the value of the network increased as more people joined. AI Boom: AI is more akin to a new kind of computer or microprocessor. It processes data, learns from it, and generates outputs. It’s an information processing system rather than a network. Industry Dynamics: Internet Boom: Focused on building networks and applications that leveraged network effects. Companies fought to gain and maintain user bases to capitalize on these effects. AI Boom: Involves building various AI models and applications. The focus is on improving the capabilities of these models and integrating them into different domains. Lock-in and Usability: Internet Boom: Lock-in was significant due to the complexity of using early computers and networks. Switching costs were high. AI Boom: AI is easier to use as it can understand and generate human language. This reduces lock-in and allows for more flexibility in choosing AI solutions. Similarities: Speculative Boom and Bust: Both booms experienced speculative investment cycles, where initial excitement led to overinvestment, followed by a bust when expectations were not met. This cycle is typical for new, transformative technologies. Economic and Cultural Impact: Both technologies have had profound impacts on the economy and culture. The internet revolutionized communication, commerce, and information sharing. AI is poised to transform industries by automating tasks, enhancing decision-making, and creating new capabilities. Lessons Learned: Boom-Bust Nature: Expect cycles of overinvestment and correction. This is a natural part of the adoption curve for transformative technologies. Openness vs. Proprietary Systems: The internet started with proprietary networks and moved towards openness, which fueled its growth. There is a risk that AI could move towards more closed systems, which could stifle innovation and competition. Speculative Investment: Speculative investment is a double-edged sword. It can lead to rapid development and deployment of new technologies but also to significant financial losses when expectations are not met. Future Outlook: AI Models: The future of AI likely involves a diverse ecosystem of models of various sizes and capabilities, similar to the evolution of computers from mainframes to microprocessors. Integration and Application: The focus will be on integrating AI into various domains and creating applications that leverage AI’s unique capabilities.
The point at the end resonated with me. These are very much just tools that are easy to move between. I already use several different models for different purposes.
Interesting comparison. I like to think of the Internet as being made possible by the breaking up of the telecom monopoly/oligopoly, which allowed small players with minimal investments to take advantage of the open “common carrier” nature of the Internet. Here we are decades later, with clear oligopolies, or in VC speak, “moats,” but which, because of financial necessity, are required to fund and train these AI systems. That is to say; I don't think we would've had the rapid development of the Internet without the anti-trust actions, and on the other hand, I don't think we would've had the rapid development of AI with anti-trust actions that many have called for.
👏 Fascinating insights! Understanding the fundamental differences between AI and Web 1.0 helps shape our perspective on the current state of technology and its trajectory. 🚀 It's crucial to draw lessons from the right historical parallels to navigate the landscape effectively.
Maybe would be better to post the clips in another dedicated channel like "a16z Clips" like most other big podcasts out there. Just to keep this feed cleaner
What is identical between web1 and Ai, is the regulatory capture, exploitation of customers as products, massive theft of public assets followed by enclosure. I’m sure you understand this intimately as this type of vile behaviour is at the core of the VC model you two have used to enrich yourselves.
Ben: "... and so what is the lock-in there?" Reusing the same prompts in a different model doesn't work very well. A model might have the same lock-in as a personal assistant who you know well and who knows you well. I'm not sure on this. It's just a hypothesis.
We've had decades of exponential tech growth without societal revolution. AI excels at idea generation, but progress bottlenecks at real-world validation-something AI can't accelerate. Expect evolution, not revolution. Progress has one foot on knowledge and the other foot in the real world. The real world is slow to validate ideas.
The AI boom and the Internet boom are often compared, but they have distinct differences and similarities. Here’s a summary:
Key Differences:
Nature of Technology:
Internet Boom: The internet was fundamentally a network that connected many existing computers and facilitated the creation of new ones. It was dominated by network effects, where the value of the network increased as more people joined.
AI Boom: AI is more akin to a new kind of computer or microprocessor. It processes data, learns from it, and generates outputs. It’s an information processing system rather than a network.
Industry Dynamics:
Internet Boom: Focused on building networks and applications that leveraged network effects. Companies fought to gain and maintain user bases to capitalize on these effects.
AI Boom: Involves building various AI models and applications. The focus is on improving the capabilities of these models and integrating them into different domains.
Lock-in and Usability:
Internet Boom: Lock-in was significant due to the complexity of using early computers and networks. Switching costs were high.
AI Boom: AI is easier to use as it can understand and generate human language. This reduces lock-in and allows for more flexibility in choosing AI solutions.
Similarities:
Speculative Boom and Bust:
Both booms experienced speculative investment cycles, where initial excitement led to overinvestment, followed by a bust when expectations were not met. This cycle is typical for new, transformative technologies.
Economic and Cultural Impact:
Both technologies have had profound impacts on the economy and culture. The internet revolutionized communication, commerce, and information sharing. AI is poised to transform industries by automating tasks, enhancing decision-making, and creating new capabilities.
Lessons Learned:
Boom-Bust Nature:
Expect cycles of overinvestment and correction. This is a natural part of the adoption curve for transformative technologies.
Openness vs. Proprietary Systems:
The internet started with proprietary networks and moved towards openness, which fueled its growth. There is a risk that AI could move towards more closed systems, which could stifle innovation and competition.
Speculative Investment:
Speculative investment is a double-edged sword. It can lead to rapid development and deployment of new technologies but also to significant financial losses when expectations are not met.
Future Outlook:
AI Models: The future of AI likely involves a diverse ecosystem of models of various sizes and capabilities, similar to the evolution of computers from mainframes to microprocessors.
Integration and Application: The focus will be on integrating AI into various domains and creating applications that leverage AI’s unique capabilities.
The point at the end resonated with me. These are very much just tools that are easy to move between. I already use several different models for different purposes.
Thank you kindly Mr Andreesen and Mr Horowitz. These discussions are most useful in helping us strategise.
Its crazy how one host is carrying these talks and the other is just meandering thru it tho
sit down kid
how share the positive
Get to the point… JFC! These VCs wouldn’t stick around listening to a founder pitching his idea in such a convoluted and long winded way.
Saying a bunch of nothing.
Good thing their money is making money. I bet he hasn't had an original profitable idea on his own in decades.
You guys are killing it. Thank you for sharing your expertise.
Interesting comparison. I like to think of the Internet as being made possible by the breaking up of the telecom monopoly/oligopoly, which allowed small players with minimal investments to take advantage of the open “common carrier” nature of the Internet. Here we are decades later, with clear oligopolies, or in VC speak, “moats,” but which, because of financial necessity, are required to fund and train these AI systems. That is to say; I don't think we would've had the rapid development of the Internet without the anti-trust actions, and on the other hand, I don't think we would've had the rapid development of AI with anti-trust actions that many have called for.
Please continue to pump out these discussions/podcasts with Marc and Ben; they are quickly becoming my favorite, aside from Lex.
This is great. Thank you for posting this
👏 Fascinating insights! Understanding the fundamental differences between AI and Web 1.0 helps shape our perspective on the current state of technology and its trajectory. 🚀 It's crucial to draw lessons from the right historical parallels to navigate the landscape effectively.
It’s great to see actual individuals who fundamentally know the financial field. There’s too much junk floating around UA-cam.
Well AI is a Neural Network and the users are creating networked intelligence its just not connecting people
Another angle
The PC analogy and its history is very smart. Thank you Marc
The models are a commodity. The application of them is the valuable part.
Thanks guys!
Can’t wait to meet you guys one of these days God willing
Simply brilliant
Good show my bros
A computer? It too is a network of nodes
thx
The network was a network. Well done Marc. What a lot of hot air.
Love this show!
Maybe would be better to post the clips in another dedicated channel like "a16z Clips" like most other big podcasts out there. Just to keep this feed cleaner
This is helpful
My thermostats don't care . I expect them to tell me so any day now
youtube is starting to censor good comments
Internet boom it will help to AI fast growth becasuse of more datas are generated via internet ,data is fuel for AI
Nice
These guys hate their hair or hair in general. They are coming after your hair next
What is identical between web1 and Ai, is the regulatory capture, exploitation of customers as products, massive theft of public assets followed by enclosure. I’m sure you understand this intimately as this type of vile behaviour is at the core of the VC model you two have used to enrich yourselves.
maybe these are the guys thought rabbit and humain were good ideas? i hope not they sound kinda like they are
humane pin***
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Ben: "... and so what is the lock-in there?"
Reusing the same prompts in a different model doesn't work very well.
A model might have the same lock-in as a personal assistant who you know well and who knows you well.
I'm not sure on this. It's just a hypothesis.
We've had decades of exponential tech growth without societal revolution. AI excels at idea generation, but progress bottlenecks at real-world validation-something AI can't accelerate. Expect evolution, not revolution. Progress has one foot on knowledge and the other foot in the real world. The real world is slow to validate ideas.
0:07 anyone using web versions don’t know shit about web
I love listening to this ‘survivor bias’ podcast.
I have hard time taking a16z serious since their over the top crypto shilling.
Unsubscriped, but I want my time back too😢
Why?
@@user.1743 this channel is the most surface disinformation spreader on yt, tell me just one insight you got from this?
@@klausditrich7323 Marc's oppinion on the current state of affairs, which is what this is about.
@@klausditrich7323 english do you speak it?
blablabla?