Jumping straight to the specific third is going to be rough starting out. I find it helpful to sing the fifth as "sol" then dropping down to "mi" or "me" and vice-versa for starting on the root "do". Also as strange as it sounds it really helps to try and visualize the pitch raising and lowering. Your voice will have more accuracy when it can visualize what it's doing, there are hand signs that are used in vocal lessons specifically made to help visualize solfa.
I had to sing the fifth as 'do' and then count backwards to 'fa' to identify the first, then count back up to 'la' and drop a semitone for minor chords. Needless to say, I had to pause the video because there's no way in heck I was getting that in one second :'D
I found I was able to only do this exercise with singing the arpeggiated triad descending because the fifth is the note that stood out to me the most because it's higher than the root. I was able to do the major examples fairly well but when it came to the minor ones I struggled. If I sang the major 3rd and went down a minor second from there it would work out. But without singing the major 3rd first it was very difficult.
I also seem to hear the fifth more clearly, and I find the major third easier to get. Not great at modifying the major third in order to create the minor third though.
I have to pick out the diad on piano so I have more time with, then I can sing up to either third. I should work on singing down though because that does sound useful.
This is great! I am finding that the major third comes easily, where the minor third comes from finding the major third and then lowering it a half-step. I will keep practicing until both come easy. Thanks!
James Randorff I had the same problem and your comment really helped! I just did what sounded right to me and lowered it a half step and then I got the right note for the minor ones.
WOW! First time I did it I needed to hum the 1st or 5th, second time I did it (2minutrs later)🤯 I could feel it got 90% right. Incredible! Never ear trained before 😊
To drop from scale degree 5 to the minor three scale degree involves singing a descending interval of a major third. Now there is a Gershwin song that opens with this very descending interval of 5 to b3. It's Summertime !! Hope that helps !!!
Your classes definitely work! I tried twice. First time I could not find a single one. The second time I got all mayors and most minors. I will continue watching it and the rest of the series. I´m a true fan of yours. Thanks for your help, an amazing class.
Man, your channel is packed with interesting stuff!!! I just discovered it, and there are so many videos that I'm digging. Fair to say I had run accross a video of you and Dylan recognizing notes in Facebook but I didn't know you had a youtube channel. So glad I found it. Thanks for all the content you upload. Your effort is highly appreciated.
I have been practicing this for about 4 months and I love it. I have out all the exercices back to back and that gives me a 19 minutes long practice. Now I want to do more of that: do you guys know of any resources where I could do more listen and answer type of exercices? It is important that there is nothing to read or nothing to type as I do these exercices while running ;)
why not ask listeners to listen to the root only then to mum a 2nd then a 3rd and build up to a third gradually- by humming a tone or a semi tone 0Not forgetting Ma or Min can apply to 2nds too. I used to with my pupils.
Rick I think it would be helpful to have the answers in a sheet to practice it with headphones and a tuner to confirm with are actually singing the right note. Thank you so much for everything you share with us! I really appreciate it.
Seven Minaya Hi seven- I'm not sure follow? I am playing the answers. I play the fifth, then I pause for you to sing and then I play the answer for you to match with. Maybe I'm not understand the question? Rick
Sorry if I was confusing, for some of us it's not as easy to know if we are actually matching the result. But if I put a tuner in front of me and put headphones one I can try to sing the answers and see on the tuner if I'm singing the right note. At least until I can tell whether I'm right or wrong by ear. Sorry if this is confusing.
Josh Montederamos you will think u out are getting good at it when really you're not, I think tuners are very beneficial and keep you on the right track
I have no clue what any of this means....is there a video on this channel or on UA-cam I should watch to quickly learn this or is it a slow lengthy process like most ever musical thing Ive ever learned?
I seem to have some issue with picking which one is the root of the dyad, which sometimes causes me to incorrectly start from the higher pitched note rather than the lower when I try to sing the minor/major third. This happens especially when the pitch of the dyad is in the higher register. Does anyone have any tips for how to improve accuracy of identifying the root when played simultaneously with the fifth?
Yes! Just go before the piano, play the c, and then c#, listen to them carefully, and than sing them, first the c, and than the c#, and after that play both of them like a second minor and listen carefully untill the sound ends. Proceed with all dhe dyands with the tonic on C untill you arrive at unison. In this way your ear will be better in a short time (some weeks) in determinind which of the notes of the dyad is the root, and it will help your ear developement in general.
QuabmasM - Look for videos or websites that explain basic music theory. In a do-re-mi-fa-so, the 'do' is what is called the 1st (tonic) and the 5th is the 'so' note, the 3rd is the 'mi' note. But get a more thorough explanation, very basic theory (which is what this is) is not that hard. Then comes the hard part - training your ear through exercises like this (there are easier exercises). Good luck.
@@RickBeato I'm wondering how to go about improving if I'm struggling with all of these by ear. Is it best to just learn to guess correctly, or is it better to try to dissect the two notes first and then try to come down a third from the fifth or go up a third from the root. I am able to do slightly better if I try to first play the diad (root and fifth) on my guitar, and then try to guess the major or minor third. Is that cheating?
Is there some sort of singing lesson that precedes these exercises? I have trouble singing notes, I know when they're not in tune but I have to slide around until it is the note I (think) I want, even with octaves. I feel like I'm not in control of my vocal chords!!
Dear Rick your videos are amazing. I want to ask you something..I want to become a composer, compose my songs. I am learning what I need and I need to have a map of the important things I should learn like harmony, what else should I be learning?
so what do you do when you can't do it? I am almost in tears. I practice signing the minor then as soon as he plays the major my brain loses the minor tone and I simply can not get it. I have practiced hours.
at 0;51/2;04 =Is Major; OK then why not stay with the same root and 5th of that triad and just lower the 3rrd by a semitone and then play for a Minor answer?
Now WHY didn't they each us this in school??? I learned to read music on the clarinet but that is useless w/o ear training. I play guitar by ear. But still this isn't easy for me. I took a sight-singing class in college but we never did these simple exercises. It's harder when you are older.
This is definitely to hard for the „first lesson“ in my opinion 🙈 I think the fifth would be easier first? But idk maybe I have to practice before these practice exercises more 🤷🏼♀️ but still nice idea
I need help. I'm new to music. And when people hum the note I cant hear the same note as in the piano. Even between instruments I can't identify when they are playing the same note. How can I fix this? I'm working so hard on being better (I'm learning the piano)
@@diegorojaspech1786 Absolutely. I've been practicing music for a few years and some of these caught me off guard. Try a few more times and you'll start to get it bro.
what the hell just happened? I had no idea what you meant by in the expo, I just tried to sing what I thought stood out in the chord and then most of the time the single note you played it was the same thing. A couple of times I was a little off.
Just bought the course and totally stuck on HARMONIC 4ths and 5ths. Nailed the MELODIC 4ths and 5ths but the harmonic is so hard! What am I doing wrong?
Hello Rick, I forked out for your ear training course and it's crap. It's riddled with errors and sounds that are mislabelled, so it's both really frustrating and doing more harm than good. I've asked for a refund - hopefully you can get the site sorted as it's got potential to be amazing.
I have a bad habit. without singing the root I can sing the major or minor third with 60% accuracy but when I sing the root I can sing the major or minor third 100% so basically if I don't sing the root it is hard for me to hear the 3rd naturally this is a bad habit especially if you want to be able to transcribe a melody line few notes in a row instead of singing the inversions from note to note first I envy people with perfect pitch. I pray to God that one day I'll get it then I can compose an entire orchestrated piece inside my mind
To me, I hear the initial pair (harmonic interval) as a single entity. I can tell it isn't a "pure note," put I hear it as a single entity and hear the "filled in" note as descending. In every case, I hear the filled in tone as descending. I tried repeatedly to pick the lower note out of the initial pair and ignore the upper note so that the filled in note would sound like it was ascending a 3rd, but could not do it. Is there anyone who could? Just curious.
That Was My Problem Too, And I Think The Solution Is To Think And Play The Note At The Same Time And If You Feel That All Your Mouth Kind Of Vibrate With The Note, You Got It! (I Don't Know Too Much About This, So We Need A Real Expert)
The note will resonate. It's very distinctive. Go play a sustained note and then match your vocal pitch to it. You'll know when you've matched it, trust me.
I'm still not getting it. Because I don't play music, I don't know what a triad is or mayjor or minor. Is he playing a note waiting a second you sing and then he hits a different note? Are you trying to sing the initial note he's singing or the second note? He says filling in the triad, so I'm not sure am I copying the first or guessing the second note 🤔
@@86sineadw You Need Some Basic Music Theory First. You Need To Learn What Mean Intervals In Music And Then The Type Of Chord. Both Concept Are Super Easy So You Will Learn It Real Quickly. I encourage you To Learn More About Music! So... GOOD LUCK AND HAVE FUN!
Yay! 3 years later I finally got every one before you played it 😁
Congrats man. Good to hear you pushed through
Jumping straight to the specific third is going to be rough starting out. I find it helpful to sing the fifth as "sol" then dropping down to "mi" or "me" and vice-versa for starting on the root "do". Also as strange as it sounds it really helps to try and visualize the pitch raising and lowering. Your voice will have more accuracy when it can visualize what it's doing, there are hand signs that are used in vocal lessons specifically made to help visualize solfa.
I had to sing the fifth as 'do' and then count backwards to 'fa' to identify the first, then count back up to 'la' and drop a semitone for minor chords. Needless to say, I had to pause the video because there's no way in heck I was getting that in one second :'D
Interesting... I can't hear am I right or wrong. Do you have Lesson 0?
I'm so glad I found this channel, thank you so much for taking this time for us !
I found I was able to only do this exercise with singing the arpeggiated triad descending because the fifth is the note that stood out to me the most because it's higher than the root. I was able to do the major examples fairly well but when it came to the minor ones I struggled. If I sang the major 3rd and went down a minor second from there it would work out. But without singing the major 3rd first it was very difficult.
I also seem to hear the fifth more clearly, and I find the major third easier to get. Not great at modifying the major third in order to create the minor third though.
Exact opposite for me, minor keys no problem but major keys I was always too high.
I had to do the exact same thing
I have to pick out the diad on piano so I have more time with, then I can sing up to either third. I should work on singing down though because that does sound useful.
This is great! I am finding that the major third comes easily, where the minor third comes from finding the major third and then lowering it a half-step. I will keep practicing until both come easy. Thanks!
James Randorff I had the same problem and your comment really helped! I just did what sounded right to me and lowered it a half step and then I got the right note for the minor ones.
Same here.
Awesome lesson. Also, even though the intro you have used earlier is cool, I like how you get straight to the point in this video.
I can get all the major ones, but none of the minor!
me too weird. can anyone explain?
@@travisdt practice singing a minor third and then you'll be able to do it
I have to cheat by hearing the major third then dropping it a semitone
WOW! First time I did it I needed to hum the 1st or 5th, second time I did it (2minutrs later)🤯 I could feel it got 90% right. Incredible! Never ear trained before 😊
To drop from scale degree 5 to the minor three scale degree involves singing a descending interval of a major third.
Now there is a Gershwin song that opens with this very descending interval of 5 to b3.
It's Summertime !!
Hope that helps !!!
This is super motivation to work ! Thanks !!!! Like for many people singing the major is easy , the minor takes some work ;-)
is it bad that i got every single one wrong and ive been studying music for 3 years
no it means you are doing the work.
😆😆😆
not bad, but it means that you need to focus more on ear training!
Idk, but that's encouraging for me
I have a degree from Munich Conservatory (now Hochschule für Musik) and I am 52. I got 2 wrong 😅
Your classes definitely work! I tried twice. First time I could not find a single one. The second time I got all mayors and most minors. I will continue watching it and the rest of the series. I´m a true fan of yours. Thanks for your help, an amazing class.
thank you Rick for your excellent videos
I think this is a great approach instead of just using diads the outer interval with the one you have to sing gives harmonic context.
Man, your channel is packed with interesting stuff!!! I just discovered it, and there are so many videos that I'm digging. Fair to say I had run accross a video of you and Dylan recognizing notes in Facebook but I didn't know you had a youtube channel. So glad I found it. Thanks for all the content you upload. Your effort is highly appreciated.
I honestly know this chord progression by heart now :D
Amazing Series!! Well I got all these right so far... Keep them coming...
I have been practicing this for about 4 months and I love it. I have out all the exercices back to back and that gives me a 19 minutes long practice.
Now I want to do more of that: do you guys know of any resources where I could do more listen and answer type of exercices? It is important that there is nothing to read or nothing to type as I do these exercices while running ;)
Jeff Schneider's 3 part ear training
you can use toned ear for scale degree training
Hey rick, love all of your videos and I find them so informative, so please keep up the good work!
0:37 “Once there was a way, to get back homeward. Once there was a way, to get back home”🎶
I wonder how many true fans will know...
What a novel exercise. Love it !!!
Thank you so much for this rick!
This is great, Rick. Just found your channel and appreciate your practical take on this - looking forward to working through the series!
Deciding if I should buy the complete course.
me too.
Did you get it?
How was it? I'm really interested in the ear training course.
I think prior to this I would do some time singing the fifths you play first and then the third.
Good idea!
why not ask listeners to listen to the root only then to mum a 2nd then a 3rd and build up to a third gradually-
by humming a tone or a semi tone 0Not forgetting Ma or Min can apply to 2nds too. I used to with my pupils.
can't wait until Rick's ear training course comes out
Rick I think it would be helpful to have the answers in a sheet to practice it with headphones and a tuner to confirm with are actually singing the right note. Thank you so much for everything you share with us! I really appreciate it.
Seven Minaya Hi seven- I'm not sure follow? I am playing the answers. I play the fifth, then I pause for you to sing and then I play the answer for you to match with. Maybe I'm not understand the question? Rick
Sorry if I was confusing, for some of us it's not as easy to know if we are actually matching the result. But if I put a tuner in front of me and put headphones one I can try to sing the answers and see on the tuner if I'm singing the right note. At least until I can tell whether I'm right or wrong by ear. Sorry if this is confusing.
Seven Minaya. in this case just do it at the piano with your own chords. The answer is the 3rd of said chord.
Josh Montederamos you will think u out are getting good at it when really you're not, I think tuners are very beneficial and keep you on the right track
The point is not to sing perfectly in tune.
I have no clue what any of this means....is there a video on this channel or on UA-cam I should watch to quickly learn this or is it a slow lengthy process like most ever musical thing Ive ever learned?
This is a process but the speed is determined by you and how much you work at it.
I seem to have some issue with picking which one is the root of the dyad, which sometimes causes me to incorrectly start from the higher pitched note rather than the lower when I try to sing the minor/major third. This happens especially when the pitch of the dyad is in the higher register.
Does anyone have any tips for how to improve accuracy of identifying the root when played simultaneously with the fifth?
Yes! Just go before the piano, play the c, and then c#, listen to them carefully, and than sing them, first the c, and than the c#, and after that play both of them like a second minor and listen carefully untill the sound ends. Proceed with all dhe dyands with the tonic on C untill you arrive at unison. In this way your ear will be better in a short time (some weeks) in determinind which of the notes of the dyad is the root, and it will help your ear developement in general.
QuabmasM - Look for videos or websites that explain basic music theory. In a do-re-mi-fa-so, the 'do' is what is called the 1st (tonic) and the 5th is the 'so' note, the 3rd is the 'mi' note. But get a more thorough explanation, very basic theory (which is what this is) is not that hard. Then comes the hard part - training your ear through exercises like this (there are easier exercises). Good luck.
@@RickBeato I'm wondering how to go about improving if I'm struggling with all of these by ear. Is it best to just learn to guess correctly, or is it better to try to dissect the two notes first and then try to come down a third from the fifth or go up a third from the root.
I am able to do slightly better if I try to first play the diad (root and fifth) on my guitar, and then try to guess the major or minor third. Is that cheating?
Hahaha Rick, this is SUCH a fantastic exercise - thank you :-)
Hey Rick, you're awesome man...keep up the great work
Is there some sort of singing lesson that precedes these exercises? I have trouble singing notes, I know when they're not in tune but I have to slide around until it is the note I (think) I want, even with octaves. I feel like I'm not in control of my vocal chords!!
Thank you so much you are excellent.
Dear Rick your videos are amazing. I want to ask you something..I want to become a composer, compose my songs. I am learning what I need and I need to have a map of the important things I should learn like harmony, what else should I be learning?
This is a great lesson! Thank you Rick!
On my very first try, I did all the major ones and a few of the minor ones. This is so cool!!
fill in with voice, piano or what?
Thanks for adding subtitles in russian!
so what do you do when you can't do it? I am almost in tears. I practice signing the minor then as soon as he plays the major my brain loses the minor tone and I simply can not get it. I have practiced hours.
at 0;51/2;04 =Is Major; OK then why not stay with the same root and 5th of that triad and just lower the 3rrd by a semitone and then play for a Minor answer?
I listened for the root, hummed that and bumped up...got all but 2 on the first try. 😳Shocked myself!
Rick, thank you so much.
It’s funny how different we all are. I can’t improvise to save my life, but I nailed all of these first try.
Now WHY didn't they each us this in school??? I learned to read music on the clarinet but that is useless w/o ear training. I play guitar by ear. But still this isn't easy for me. I took a sight-singing class in college but we never did these simple exercises. It's harder when you are older.
Sorry Rick,I dont understand ,you play the tonic and he sing the third,and then you play the third to confirm,is this?
yes
Why are these so hard? Are you playing inversions?
he is playing a perfect fifth. Perfect fifth always a major. Inversion don't influence much
No inversions here just root positions. It’s the going up and down in pitch, different starting notes. :)
Very nice!!! Please will you do an "Explain to me like I am five" introduction to this series... Thank you
For me it is is easy only if I sing the fifth and then go a major or minor third down depending, but impossible to get them right away.
I keep hearing the minors as related to the previous major chord, pretty sure its intentional, so we can learn to hear the triads in isolation.
This is definitely to hard for the „first lesson“ in my opinion 🙈 I think the fifth would be easier first? But idk maybe I have to practice before these practice exercises more 🤷🏼♀️ but still nice idea
Very great!
This is lesson 1!? Time to set fire to my guitar in the only way I will ever come close to emulating Jimi Hendrix
Nice lesson
I need help. I'm new to music. And when people hum the note I cant hear the same note as in the piano. Even between instruments I can't identify when they are playing the same note.
How can I fix this? I'm working so hard on being better (I'm learning the piano)
Wow these were easy
Question, is this a channel suitable for beginners?
Because I didn't get anything
@@diegorojaspech1786 Absolutely. I've been practicing music for a few years and some of these caught me off guard. Try a few more times and you'll start to get it bro.
I think I sing it right, but the piano note doesn't sound how I imagined it. What should I try to improve?
I don’t understand the exercise. How do I know I got them right or wrong
Ah ah I did it !! I'm getting histerical 😂
Still a lot of practice to be done...
why you don't use songs to remember the intervals?
very cool!
Hi Rick, What do you think about using Ear master as a tool for ear training? is it works?
What, no reference tone?
what the hell just happened? I had no idea what you meant by in the expo, I just tried to sing what I thought stood out in the chord and then most of the time the single note you played it was the same thing. A couple of times I was a little off.
If this is lesson 1 is there a lesson -10? This is impossible and I have been playing guitar for 20 years.
kewl...
If I have no idea what I’m doing but keep consistent am I improving pls help
Is there a tool that generates this exercise for us?
good
Hi Rick, are you alirght with me downloading this content to practice offline?
Just bought the course and totally stuck on HARMONIC 4ths and 5ths. Nailed the MELODIC 4ths and 5ths but the harmonic is so hard! What am I doing wrong?
Practice practice practice
3rd day... lets see how well i do
Hello Rick, I forked out for your ear training course and it's crap. It's riddled with errors and sounds that are mislabelled, so it's both really frustrating and doing more harm than good. I've asked for a refund - hopefully you can get the site sorted as it's got potential to be amazing.
I have a bad habit. without singing the root I can sing the major or minor third with 60% accuracy but when I sing the root I can sing the major or minor third 100%
so basically if I don't sing the root it is hard for me to hear the 3rd naturally this is a bad habit especially if you want to be able to transcribe a melody line few notes in a row instead of singing the inversions from note to note first
I envy people with perfect pitch. I pray to God that one day I'll get it then I can compose an entire orchestrated piece inside my mind
Easy
0:46
I watch these while pooping
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To me, I hear the initial pair (harmonic interval) as a single entity. I can tell it isn't a "pure note," put I hear it as a single entity and hear the "filled in" note as descending. In every case, I hear the filled in tone as descending. I tried repeatedly to pick the lower note out of the initial pair and ignore the upper note so that the filled in note would sound like it was ascending a 3rd, but could not do it. Is there anyone who could? Just curious.
those are way to high for my voice...
i've memorized all the notes in my head... Does that mean the training is working or that this video won't help me anymore?
My brain keeps wanting to make minor, major
I am so confused
I got every major and 0 minors lol
I just need 2 more seconds before you reveal it 😭
Fuck yes
This ain't easy.
How do I know if I'm singing it right 😂
That Was My Problem Too, And I Think The Solution Is To Think And Play The Note At The Same Time And If You Feel That All Your Mouth Kind Of Vibrate With The Note, You Got It!
(I Don't Know Too Much About This, So We Need A Real Expert)
The note will resonate. It's very distinctive. Go play a sustained note and then match your vocal pitch to it. You'll know when you've matched it, trust me.
I'm still not getting it. Because I don't play music, I don't know what a triad is or mayjor or minor. Is he playing a note waiting a second you sing and then he hits a different note? Are you trying to sing the initial note he's singing or the second note? He says filling in the triad, so I'm not sure am I copying the first or guessing the second note 🤔
@@86sineadw You Need Some Basic Music Theory First.
You Need To Learn What Mean Intervals In Music And Then The Type Of Chord. Both Concept Are Super Easy So You Will Learn It Real Quickly. I encourage you To Learn More About Music! So... GOOD LUCK AND HAVE FUN!
@@blasramones4515 I'd say so, these videos probably won't help if I don't understand basic theory. Thanks
😉
I did much better the second time!
i had to play the vid at half speed haha
Good idea! I'll try that.
Wait a minute... How comes I could guess them all?