PYONGYANG TROLLEYBUS (2014)
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- Im April 2014 besuchte ich zum zweitenmal die Volksrepublik Korea und erkundete diesmal das Trolleybussystem etwas genauer. Die Modernisierung der Flotte geht weiter voran und zahlreiche Altbauwagen der Typen Ikraus und Karosa wurden bereits ersetzt. Während dieser Tage entstanden zahlreiche O-Busfotos, ebenso wurden drei Sonderfahrten mit den Typen Chonlima 70, 91 und 9.25 durchgeführt.
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2:45 Ikarus 260T is a very rare piece. In the whole world (excpect North-Korea) there are only 2 operational (they are in Budapest, one is for heritage; the other is for training new trolleybus drivers, built by BKV a few years ago)
Not really, the driver trainer one was bulit from the Ikarus 263, which is 1 méter Longer.
Ikarus 280T was most common in Budapest on line 80 but they banned it
@@dinabalazs8398 Dehogy tiltották be. A mai napig járnak hétköznap a 80-as és 75-ös vonalán.
Just like your tram video, this is another unique document, not only because it shows trolleys and trams but also gives us a rare view inside this very secret country. Congratulations Daniel!
LOL very secret country, they basically spilled everything on the internet about it. Its no more secret than Mongolia or Laos, its just not everyone knows very much about these countries.
SMGJohn do you even know which country it is (and if you will tell me is because i dont know it you are wrong because i do know it)
Looks like 50 years before ! Nice city, no traffic jam . Thks for this interressant video on a very secret country
Please look my newer videos from Pyongyang, this scenes here are historic now! The traffic are a lot and all trolleybusses are new...this video is a young-historic now! :-)
There is actually a lot more car traffic than I would have thought over there.
Saudações amigos internautas de todo o mundo! Eu sou do Sul do Brazil e fiquei maravilhado ao ver o transporte coletivo urbano de PYONGYANG, ver uma cidade limpa, com poucos carros em circulação e uma grande quantidade de onibus e trens em operação na cidade e fico pensando: porquê outras cidades pelo mundo não poderiam ser assim também com menos carros e mais transportes por onibus ???
Oh wow, that’s very nice! So high floor articulated busses are still being produced today.
So clean and very discipline.
very clean city
i just love to watch these videos about NK.beautiful scenery
hejdiklump good nature too, not over-industrialized.
Only in a few selected area's of Pyongyang, will you ever see a "very clean" city
The trolleybus at 1:40 reminds Kyiv-6, the first three-door Soviet trolleybus.
Old troleybuses looks like old socialist brands from Central Europe. For example Ikarus from Hungary, Karosa from Czechoslovakia or Jelcz from Poland.
Yes, this are older such busses! They was Dieselbusses before and was reconstructed to trolleybusses some times ago!
Ungrammatically incorrect typing, man.. The correct typing is: "..these are...", but not ...this are...; then: "...They were...", Not - "...They was...", And better to say/to type: It was... !! Go to school, moron...!!!
Ingvar Yergin He is German.Not everyone knows English well.
Don't forget ZiU from USSR.
I have seen LAZ from Ukraine. But all the other trolleybuses are from China. There is no trolleybuses from Eastern Europe.
very interesting great to have look behind the scenes of the secretive North Korea thank you for posting
there are no secretives in north korea, only our western media and some people like it to make it "secret". real its a normal city in a normal country with normal citytransport!
pelo menos nessa parte mostrada de Pyongyang , parece ser uma cidade limpa , não tem aquela confusão na com a fiação elétrica ,telefonia , a fiação e aterradas , muito bom
COREIA DO NORTE LUGAR BOM DE SE VIVER
Danke sehr Daniel! Entschüldigen wieder. Rob.
thank you for your video, read show more in german, very nice tour of Pyongyang, welcome back to the DPRK
Omg the driver at 3:50 trying to fix the poles. They used to do this in Bulgaria when drivers were inexperienced.
Great video!! Amazing lack of other traffic makes for good trolleybus shooting, The dewirement near the beginning showed a bit of heavy-handedness on the part of the driver :-)
3:00 Ikarus from Hungary? 🤔
Yes lkarus from Budapesht
Great video. Main roads seam fine but what a state of trolleybuses and trams especially hanging switches and wires! Former E.German Tatra on 1.20? Remember very well that all Tatra fleets were sold at a bargain prices.
3:50 some failure :D
Its normal trolleybuslife...look my videos from Ukraine...there is it standart!
Martináčku, co ty tady děláš? :-)
Let's hope he wasn't sent to the workers camp
Chonlima 70 ist ehemaliger Škoda 706RTO MEx. Es ist ganz interessant, diesen alten Bus als O-Bus sehen. Nur in Pyongyang! :). Also, die Karosa B-732 / C-734 Busse hatten niemal die O-Bus Version. Wieder nur in Pyongyang!
Thaaaaaaaanks dude this is the best video about Pyongyang buses I've seen!
Pyongyang uma cidade bonita
2:47 IK260 :D
Yes, 315 is one of the last Ikarus 260 in service. Last years all other was removed from electric lines.
Ah, but a lot of Karosa still in service
Viele Danke für diesem Video. Ich hatte mich oft verwundert, wo alle Leute sind? Es gibt Millionen Leute in Pyongyang, aber man sieht sie nicht. Es sieht immer aus wie am Sonntag morgen.
Great video! But how comes that you filmed? You wasn't afraid that someone will remark you and then you would have problems with the police?
I filmed normal! No problem with anybody...why? Its normal to make pictures and to film like other countries! (Some people talk other, but its true to make pictures normaly!)
KT4Dani For example, in Romania, before 1989, it was difficult to film or to take pictures. You could have been arrested by "Militia", because the communists we're paranoiac.
And this is why it sounds strange for me that a communist country like North Korea is so permissive. But I'm glad for your beautiful video. Have a nice Sunday!
3:54 my man lost his wire D:
Why the trolleybus are so slow?
Daniel sehr für ihre Ausgeszeichnett video Daniel! Es ist sehr interessant. Die öberleitung für der Pyongyang system ist kaput und sollte reparatur bis bald. Bitte entschüldigung mich für mein schlecht geschrieben Deutsch. Rob. In Bournemouth, England (Leider, unserer Öbus system hier ins Bournemouth geschloßen viele jahre zeit).
Thanks! But this video was old and from my second visit there. now some years are gone and something are reconstructed in Pyongyang there. At my channel you find a new video from this march, as i was my 8th visit there :-)
Have you shot any Ikarus 260 and Ikarus 280 travel videos in North Korea?
Very, very nice video. Big "like" for it! Time 4:11 - a woman say you that you should stop recording the video?
Thanks, but the woman says to me, that we go some meters and talk with trolleybusdriver...so i cut the talking-scenes. It was allowed to make videos from all. In northkorea it isnt so strong with filmrecords! Its also a normal country...
Спасибо за видео!!!! А почему троллейбусы у вас так медленно едут???
Плохое состояние контактной сети + устаревшее электрооборудование самих машин. Еще могут быть проблемы с напряжением
@@Пользователь-ж8б спасибо
@@Пользователь-ж8б + Старые спецчасти
Despite apparently bright paintwork, the trolleys all seem in pretty poor mechanical condition, noisy, slow and lots of squeaks and rattles. Even the newer looking ones are noisy, as if using auxiliary diesel engines to move them along? Perhaps they're subject to a speed limit so as not to blow the substations within each section?
True, but the stars on the trams and trolleybuses mean they haven't had an accident or a mechanic accident in months I believe
@@enthusiastisch1922 it is similar to soviet tradition. In those days, drivers painted such markings on their trucks and buses after reaching every 100 000 km. That was a big deal back then. This markings served as propaganga of quality of soviet vehicles and also as admiration of driver's skills in maintenance of rolling stock.
As far as I can see on 17:33, korean markings are painted every 50 000 km, cause there is 50 inside each star.
We had similar trolley buses in Caracas in the mid-1970s.
They ran exclusively in the older, historic, central parts of the city, and along the near-west side of the city where newcomers from the interior who hadn’t found work basically created an expansive neighborhood of improvised shacks-called _ranchitos_ in Venezuela-out of cinderblock and corrugated tin or green plastic … and when I say expansive, I mean 1/3 of Caracas along the east and south looked like a beautiful bauhaus-cum-brutalist vision of the space age, like a big concrete-and-metal jazz album cover, and the whole west side was a miles-wide maze of plastic-roofed shacks, with twisty roads and pipes spitting sewage right into the river, and some official streets which had been paved through it so the residents could reach services via public transportation, and little stores and bodegas and dance clubs some enterprising folks had built; if you’ve grown up in the U.S., I don’t think anything in your experience will have prepared you to imagine it.
Boy, I got really sidetracked. ANYWAY … we had similar trolley buses in some parts of Caracas, and they drove just as slowly, so I think it may be intrinsic to the technology: maybe being attached to overhead wires, but not to tracks, means you have to drive more slowly and carefully? When we were in the old part of the city, I used to love watching them crazily spark as they hit intersections of wires-ZAP!!! [shower of sparks] ZAP ZAP!! ZAP!!!-but I’ve never seen any in-person since.
As for the noise, ours were if anything noisier … but public transportation in Caracas in the ‘70s was dreadfully broken: all the buses and trolley buses were ancient and poorly maintained, there were red-striped buses and blue-striped buses, and the red-striped buses were official and took regular fares, while the blue-striped buses were just dudes who’d fixed a bus they’d found, and they’d haggle with you for fares, if you looked like you had money you could expect to pay double-although funnily by custom kids who could walk beneath the turnstile without bending at the waist rode free-and there was no subway until ‘81 or ‘82, whichever was the year after _Thriller_ debuted. We were one of the few middle class families who took public transportation, and I remember some bus floors were so rusted through you could see the street whooshing by beneath. Service ran on no particular schedule, and drivers both of official and of unofficial buses were prone to suddenly take shortcuts and skip dozens of stops with little notice, and if they skipped your stop, your only option was to accept your fate and hoof it the rest of the way.
Cabs were completely unmetered until 1982 and a great deal of haggling was required to get anywhere, with renegotiations sometimes taking place mid-ride. And to fill the enormous service gaps, poor people bought beat-up passenger vans with ripped seats, got them barely working, and ran them as _camionetas,_ or unofficial buses: riding one required just intuitively knowing where a particular _camioneta_ was headed, haggling to get on, knowing a rather complex set of etiquette rules regarding where to sit depending on how much you’d paid and where you were going-since payment affected the order of the stops, or whether some stops were skipped and you were expected to get off merely near your stop-figuring out who’d paid what so you knew where to sit, since you could pay less to be dropped off merely near your stop, knowing not to make a certain hand signal indicating you were getting off-because, if you made it, you HAD to get off, no takesies-backsies-and, unfortunately, if someone got on who was a good negotiator, not even necessarily someone with more cash, the whole _camioneta_ was apt to just switch routes entirely and now you’ve spent your money AND you’re stranded somewhere unexpected.
It all was an adventure, for sure … especially after my dad totaled our car, when we were living with my aunt and uncle a two-hour normal drive from my school, which via _camioneta_ and bus suddenly took three-to-FIVE hours via ever-changing routes!
So anyhow, our trolley buses were as noisy, if not noisier, than the ones shown here-but the comparison may not be fair: all of Venezuela in the 1970s was just a hair’s breadth away from collapsing … and then, in 1983, we DID collapse, spectacularly! So our trolley buses in the ‘70s were creaky and noisy, but so were our buses, our _camionetas,_ and our cabs. But it was all probably owing to factors outside of the technology itself.
So I don’t know if all trolley buses are noisy. But it *is* possible that all trolley buses are slow.
The Busses only seems to be travelling in one set destination.
Are these old trolleybuses runinng every day?
no, video from 2014. now the trolleybusses are removed and new are in service
The bus has a clearly audible diesel engine. So why does it have a pantograph?
Is this allowed there?
Is every day a public holiday in North Korea? because that traffic looks like it.
No, why? Some years ago there was not a lot cars...now thei are more than my last visit in 2011...
Ein sehr interessanter Film.
Super 👍👍👍👍👍
So langsam wie die fahren.. Haben die nich genug Spannung?
Daniel, thats's great and amazing! :)
parabéns Daniel Muschke
nice to see your bus and tram in Pyongyang
How in the world is a 50s bus, still in service, in the capital?
This video is 7 years old, no one of this older vehicles are in service. Last three years the fleet of trolleybusses was changed into a lot of new vehicles.
1:55 Karosa troleybus 😁
11:08 Škoda 17Tr vs Karosa B732?
Die dprk sollte sich Doppelkeleck troley bus holen für deren Hauptstadt. Die busse sind rouch hour so voll Dar müsse sie sich schon an der außen Seite schon festhegen und das ist gerferlich wir klich
1:42 The trolleybus in Pyongyang resembles Kyiv-6 trolleybus
It is fine video ;) LIKE :)
Why are trolleybuses in north korea so old??
Why they dont use lights?
Congratulation for this trip! Thanks alot! btw. Did you have time, to get some detailed photos of these trolleybuses or you could only film by this way. Thanks
Thanks, i have make over 3500 pictures...its a lot for next year :D
KT4Dani Ou it´s not a few! It will take some time to even sort it. :D
Did you have some problems with police or "citizens" about taking photos?
And how did drivers react... did you felt some enthusiasm from them?
2:20 это случайно не Ельч едет 4:03 похоже на Skoda 14Tr
From 1:22 to 1:26, did the pantograph on the tram totally lost contact with the overhead wire?
Yes, in some curves and switches the driver oull of the pantograph ;)
Warum stehen die Busse auf der Brücke (ca. 10. Min.?) und einige fahren? Aber tolles Video, sehr interessant. :-)
+Philipp Klein Diese Tage waren vor einem wichtigen Nationalfeiertag und die ganze Stadt war damit beschäftigt sämtliche Infrastrukturen aufzufrischen und in Ordnung zu bringen. An diesem Vormittag wurden Fahrbahnmarkierungen auf der Okryu-Brücke neu nachgezogen, was an der vorliegenden kreuzung einen Stau mit sich brachte. Daher blieben die O-busse zeitweise auf der Brücke stehen, um dann bei Freigabe immer in einem Schwung durch die "Baustelle" zu rollen! :-)
A couple of malfunctioning trolleybuses there. I wonder how many years of service they have seen already
Respect Phenjan!
Only two contries left, where Ikarus buses exist. Hungary and Northkorea.
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Noch mal Hallo, sogar ein Ikarus ist da bei super😁
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this is world best berdership...
Bro learned how to write from a roach🏴☠️
Bist du denn auch mit den Bussen usw. gefahren? :-)
Hast du Dir das Video angesehen? Wie sind denn sonst die Innenaufnahmen entstanden, wenn ich nicht mitgefahren wäre? :-D
KT4Dani Jaja, ich meine aber im regulären Linienverkehr! Und kommt es nur so rüber oder fahren die Busse fast überall ziemlich langsam? oO
Im Linienverkehr ist das für Touristen nicht möglich! Habe die Fahrten alle als Sonderfahrt organisiert.
1:50 you could have extended your clip a little bit longer for the kässbohrer setra !!!
Wunderbar
Was this filmed in 1960? Great footage.
MrScotia No, but I think this should be ironic.
+MrScotia i do not think so, but i look more clean and you can see more wealth then on west
No but in kimjongland yes
MrScotia thats a normal bus Services in north korea
5:47 no lights
no power :)
16:53 lol there's a soccer mon van just like that a few houses away from us.
Вот это образец города для жизни...мало транспорта и много воздуха.
А почему они медленно едут
Колёса квадратные жы!! )) Состояние техническое - аховое, запчастей нет-это Сев.Корея!
@@user-ol5xv5zp9b1 старые спецчасти
2 неисправны троллейбусы
3 страна в изоляции
isn't it illegal to film in pyongyan
+jayjay2016 no, its legal like all other also!
KT4Dani
ok thx
Darf man da einfach so Filmen?
PainoX Filmen und Fotografieren darfst du überall (Ausnahme wie Ostblocktypisch nur nicht das Militär nicht)...fotografieren ist in Pyongyang allgegenwärtig. Es sind immer nur UNSERE Westmedien, welches diese veraltete "denken" aktiv halten, sodass wir in einen negativen Denkfluss kommen! Das Land ist offener als es die meisten hier denken...eben weil die meisten Dokus immerwieder die alte Soße auffrischen, welche schon mehr als verjährt ist! Kurz gesagt: JA, du darfst einfach so filmen! :-)
Why they run so slow.?
why hurry?
I think it's for horrible condition of wires, trolleys... most of them are older than 30, 40 years.
Mostly because these are old as ancient
thank your again for your video, read show more, we put again this video on our progamme
what happened to the trolleybus at 3:54?
On overwire-switch the trolleybus catch the wrong direction...so the driver try to change manual...but the other wire are in the way! So it comes to lightening and sparks...but at end the cable was broken
That's the worst nightmare of trolleybus driver. No.3 One or both poles did not go the right split. (break, hazard light (optional ;) ), and drag the pole(s) to the right line.
No.2 power went out (just beautiful view along the main street with dozens of trolleybuses and drivers chilling on the side lol)
No.1 is 3:54, when the pole got jammed near the switch because there were multiple overhead cables and power lines... as a pole pushes upwards naturally, once it does not catch the power line, it shoots straight up. This is the one that the pole somehow finds a way to shoot through between the gaps and it is impossible to recover it by driver himself cuz it's like a one-way street.
The other situation I have witnessed included: pole pulled overhead lines down as the trolleybus was going at a high speed and though driver broke immediately, so cables dangled closer to the ground; and once the connector between pole and overhead linewent loose after the pole slipped from the overhead cable.
How did you manage to film it.
Stay at street and film! :-)
its clean because few people live there
1:17 ZIL 130
bro he went to north korea how he got back to home
0:24 looks like an early 70s volvo 144 (!)
Yes , no more modern car in there
Looks like a 1974 model 144, as there are no ventilation windows.
Yes its one of those 1000 volvo N.K bought from sweden and never paid for.They still own sweden 3 billion Swedish krona fir products they "bought"and never payed for.
Sehr gut gemachtes Video. Gefällt mir! Übrigens, beim Chonlima 91 die Sitze sehen fast identisch aus wie bei den modernisierten Tatras der LVB Leipzig... Zufall? :D (bei Minute 20:19 zu sehen)
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Die Sitze sitz importierte Arianne-Sitze, wie man sie auch hier kennt. Die T4D aus Leipzig, Dresden und Magdeburg besitzen in Pyongyang immernoch die Originalbestuhlung!
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Bitte, doch seit der Reise überstürzen sich die Nachfragen...manchmal braucht man etwas Ruhe davon... ;)
See? Trolleybuses are so simple, even the Chinese can make them.
Uritsky trolleybuses. Russia has lots of them for a reason.
Every trolleybus hes been on is always EMPTY, did he rent the whole trolleybus for himself? lol
the trolleybusses where iam be inside are hired from me for a fototravel
He is not allowed to interact with the general population so he gets his own trolleybus.
north korea never gonna be better than hungary
it would be fun if we can get enough material and make the city into omsi 2 or simt..
Круто
Додёргался..)
A lot of short trolleybuses are made (?) from Czech buses Karosa series 700 (from Karosa , Vysoke Myto) , but this buses was in czechoslovakia only buses. As trolleybuses was used Skoda Tr9 or Tr15 (from Skoda Plzen). All vehicles in this video have not an emergency patograph downloaders. Really bad state of public traffic...
All know about the Karosa-reconstruction to trolleybusses! The 15Tr in Europa was produced in Ostrov and not in Plzen!
Yes, but Skoda Plzen is mother company. Ostrov is manufacturing plant owned by Skoda Plzen.
ŠKODA TRANSPORTATION a.s.Emila Škody 2922/1301 00 PLZEŇČeská republika
i know the backgrounds to this company!
No offense. Just in case.
Soooo sloooow! Why?
Mostly being ancient and a law
T are going really slow compared to ur clip from 2016.
This video are complete historic...a lot of changing in these 5 years until now!
many Karosa bus from CZ
3:58 平壌郊外をチャリで走る通過爺
Ist man ja zu Fuß schneller
Yes... According to the laws and regulations of the supreme "Great Leader", trolleys must not exceed 45 km/h just to avoid power substations being blown in each section and blackouts along the way. LOL.......still LOL......
5:02 Seemed to be the fastest one.
Pyongyang trólebus antigo por demais
Impozantní!
soooo slooooooowww
Возраст подвижного состава примерно как у трамваев в Пятигорске)) но состояние еще хуже) странно, но так бывает). А если сравнить с Сеулом, с проклятыми загнивантами ?? )) Или с амстердамомкакимнибудь???))) Жаль сев.корейцев, могли бы жить по-человечески(
В Юной Корее тоже так себе живут. Жили бы хорошо, не были бы одни из первых в Азии по суицидам и потребляемого алкоголя на душу населения.
País atrasado parou no tempo esse transporte só faz barulho voltaram no tempo 1920
cidade moderna , com trólebus antiquados
Its street clon street cirova and the sifuropol