the instant kill on her np actually happens after damage, so youre always getting your refund. also in your np damage calc you used 450% scaling which is the np1 value.
You Sir/Madam, are a certified genius~! I tip my proverbial hat to ya. Thanks for pointing that out us fellow prospective Summer Valkyrie Masters, fufufu~! In fact, I daresay, you're the true *"Unsung Hero~!"*
I’m choosing the Blonde one because I’m down bad for Blondes. I think it’s worth mentioning you used 450% as their damage modifier in your calc though. That’s literally NP1 lol
these animations crack me up. An army of Valkyries flying through the sky on their majestic wings, carpet bombing you to oblivion with guns, light sabers, and an orbital cannon strike
Also the 40% chance of Death on Demonic enemies on thier NP Procs After Damage so you don't really need to worry about it effecting your overkill/overcharge effectiveness
Summer Valk is so good at looping! I thought she had a quick NP and I was looping Rider nodes using double Skadi lol. She pulled it off so I didn't even notice she was arts until after like 10 nodes probably the hardest I've ever laughed playing FGO.
ztl you messed up the damage calc here 9:24 , the np damage multiplier should be 750, not 500, so the damage on average should be closer to 24013 than 14408
This is really hard to choose, but probably I'm going to choose Ortlinde, maybe. But I think this event is going to have 2 reruns and we will be able to have all 3 eventually.
I belive they might be able to loop without starting charge CEs with some help of Paracelsius or Xu Fu. Also the battery being targetable and having a party wide evade + charisma gives them great utility for CQ
You forgot to mention that the instakill procs after damage, so they don't have to deal with the bs that erice deals with. I'm definitely going to choose ortlinde. Finally, I'm pretty sure that they're going to be good. Even if their np gain is shit, 10 hits will probably make it so that they can farm with double castoria. 100% arts up and 60% np gain buff go brrrrrrr. If they are better than expected, you might be able to farm with only Paracelsus and castoria with them, but that's overly optimistic
I’m choosing ortlinde in two years. I always liked valk and their concept of hive mind servant. Used them a lot with skadi. I really hope they end up being able to loop they’re the only servant I wanted here with a swimsuit
i think your calc is wrong because even though you set NP level to NP5, the damage modifier didn't change from 450% to 750%. if you use assassin nitocris as base the avg dmg is like 21.9k dmg
So I did some calculation and found out if you're willing to use plugsuit then Summer Valk can actually BG/6CE 3T loop and refund back to 99.9% with Castoria Paracelsus and Xu Fu, no overkill required. So she is a decent F2P Art farmer This is the formula for np gain per hit: npGeneration (round down to two decimal places) = round down(servantBase × [(cardMod × cardUp) + artsFirst] × npGenUp × crit × enemyMod) × overkill Since we're doing NP calculation, artFirst would be set to 0 and crit is gone So np gain per hit = round down(servantBase x cardMod x cardUp x npGenUp x enemyMod) x overkill Let's try Valk Summer with Castoria, Paracelsus and Xu Fu setup (no overkill and vs archer wave): NP refund = round down(0.23 x 3 x (1+110%) x (1+130%) x1) x 1 x 10 hits x 3 enemies = 99.9% Notes: overkill = 1.5 for overkill/overgauge; otherwise 1 enemyMod = 1 for Knight class; 1.1 for Rider; 1.2 for Caster; 0.9 for Assassin; 0.8 for Berserker cardMod = 3 for Art; 1 for Quick cardUp and npGenUp = 1 + total % of your team's buffs
I have no idea why they’re assassins with guns, but I am in no way complaining cuz my god they look really cute in their new outfits 😊 Absolutely lookin forward to them
I hope there’s some way to get all 3 versions. Either some event shop shenanigans on the rerun or by having a double rerun. Splitting up the girls is just cruel
Ideally, we'll be able to get all three from the event, the rerun, and the Main Interlude, but this is called into question by the fact that Summer 6 hasn't yet had its rerun when it should have before Summer 7, and by how few Main Interludes we've gotten relative to how many events exist in FGO
@@luckyc4t110 I doubt the main interlude will be used that often. The only reason the current events got added to the main interlude is because they’re plot relevant, S.E.R.A.P.H is technically an epic of remnant and ooha is where we fight Kama (not sure about the Christmas event) so unless it’s plot relevant to be “canonized” so to speak it probably won’t get a main interlude. On that note considering how often that welfare appears in cutscenes I believe the prisma illya event will become a main interlude
Was sad I didn’t get Valkyrie on the Arjuna Alter banner so I came here to hear Ztl talk about the welfare Valkyrie when I learned that she had a ftp welfare ver from Myst’s assassin tier list. I got Arjuna alter and a K scope but still sad cause I went in to do only waifu rolling
Zerker Mushashi Np gain: 0.51% Zerker Musashi skill buff np gain: +50% => 0.765 Np = 4 hits, so 3.06 np gain. Now lets go over Blondy: Np gain: 0.23 Skill np gain buff: 20% from first skill, so => 0.276 np gain now Skill np gain buff: 20% from the second skill, so => 0.3312 Ok, that seems low. Np = 10 hits, so.... 3.312 np gain. They have higher np gain than Zerker Musashi if we are talking about 3 enemy wave farming. If they hit overkill on hit 6 or so, they will easily refund the entire np. And that skill 3 just makes suuuuuure that they have their np ready for wave 3
Additionally, they will more often than not face rider enemies so there is also a 1.1x np gain modifier (which you can't reliably count for musashi as she can be used for all classes)
A lot of people are expecting Summer Skadi to be a new Quick Support, but OG Skadi synergized well with the Valkyries, so what if Summer Skadi is made to synergize with Summer Valkyries and becomes another new Arts support?
i’ve heard from other players that they’re not another casgil situation where his np gain on np was purposefully gimped so he couldn’t loop. so their face cards will charge like ass, but they should loop fine with their np
If you can only pick one and the rerun gives the other how do you get all three? Cause as a NA player looking into the future would really like to know this.
@@eomermanaloto8681 I've seen speculation like this elsewhere, that there's 3 SSRs because it'll be made into a main interlude, and that'll mean you'll be able to get all three. Haven't heard how weighty the story is, so who knows, the more major the story beats the more likely that gets. Alternatively, maybe we'll be paying rare prisms to get the last one?
They have the valkyrie buff thing and having all the valkyries both assassin and lancer sound like fun so I hope they make it a main interlude so we can RIP rider quests
Their face card np gain is really scuffed but their NP is actually fine for once (not CasGil situation) They're actually BG/6CE viable, completely F2P with Xu Fu, Paracelsus and Castoria With that team comp her NP even without overkill can refund back to 100% (though barely) on Knight classes (1x mod), higher on Rider (1.1x mod) Their damage with that team should be around 75~80k neutral, assuming worst case scenario that they might have dogshit atk stat like Lancer version
So one question how do you unlock these servants? Do you need to summon Valkyrie or do you need to contiue with the campaign of Arctic Sumemr World because i cant read japanese and the thing i hate with Special events for any game that is Foreign is finding the info because and even the release date?
they are obtainable(as of today) by clearing a stage that unlocks after completing the story of Arctic Summer though you can only obtain 1 of the 3.(you also have to unlock the dupes by clearing the stages that drop those upon completion as well to get NP5)
I'm picking Thrud. Probably never going to use them, they seem pretty mediocre and i have better options like Kiara, Koyanskaya, Morgan and now Arcueid.
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the instant kill on her np actually happens after damage, so youre always getting your refund. also in your np damage calc you used 450% scaling which is the np1 value.
Neat
You Sir/Madam, are a certified genius~! I tip my proverbial hat to ya. Thanks for pointing that out us fellow prospective Summer Valkyrie Masters, fufufu~!
In fact, I daresay, you're the true *"Unsung Hero~!"*
RIP Nitocris
I’m choosing the Blonde one because I’m down bad for Blondes.
I think it’s worth mentioning you used 450% as their damage modifier in your calc though. That’s literally NP1 lol
these animations crack me up. An army of Valkyries flying through the sky on their majestic wings, carpet bombing you to oblivion with guns, light sabers, and an orbital cannon strike
Also the 40% chance of Death on Demonic enemies on thier NP Procs After Damage so you don't really need to worry about it effecting your overkill/overcharge effectiveness
Summer Valk is so good at looping! I thought she had a quick NP and I was looping Rider nodes using double Skadi lol. She pulled it off so I didn't even notice she was arts until after like 10 nodes probably the hardest I've ever laughed playing FGO.
I know I'll be picking Ortlinde because from what I know she's the last surviving one in LB2 and decides to give Ritsuka her blessing as a Valkyrie
Damn spoilers much?
The instant kill is After the damage so its not going to hurt your refund
The costumes don't just make the Valkyrie look different, plot-wise they're different people.
ztl you messed up the damage calc here 9:24 , the np damage multiplier should be 750, not 500, so the damage on average should be closer to 24013 than 14408
The more I look at them, the more they feel like Azure Lane reference. Especially that NP.
This is really hard to choose, but probably I'm going to choose Ortlinde, maybe.
But I think this event is going to have 2 reruns and we will be able to have all 3 eventually.
Walküre the pink one I'd pick. I like her cheery demeanor. Also think she's the one less players will pick.
I belive they might be able to loop without starting charge CEs with some help of Paracelsius or Xu Fu. Also the battery being targetable and having a party wide evade + charisma gives them great utility for CQ
You forgot to mention that the instakill procs after damage, so they don't have to deal with the bs that erice deals with. I'm definitely going to choose ortlinde. Finally, I'm pretty sure that they're going to be good. Even if their np gain is shit, 10 hits will probably make it so that they can farm with double castoria. 100% arts up and 60% np gain buff go brrrrrrr. If they are better than expected, you might be able to farm with only Paracelsus and castoria with them, but that's overly optimistic
I’m choosing ortlinde in two years. I always liked valk and their concept of hive mind servant. Used them a lot with skadi.
I really hope they end up being able to loop they’re the only servant I wanted here with a swimsuit
Bro saaaaaaaame.
i think your calc is wrong because even though you set NP level to NP5, the damage modifier didn't change from 450% to 750%. if you use assassin nitocris as base the avg dmg is like 21.9k dmg
0:12 The valkyries is all come!
*cue Cyberpunk 2077 music*
So I did some calculation and found out if you're willing to use plugsuit then Summer Valk can actually BG/6CE 3T loop and refund back to 99.9% with Castoria Paracelsus and Xu Fu, no overkill required. So she is a decent F2P Art farmer
This is the formula for np gain per hit:
npGeneration (round down to two decimal places) = round down(servantBase × [(cardMod × cardUp) + artsFirst] × npGenUp × crit × enemyMod) × overkill
Since we're doing NP calculation, artFirst would be set to 0 and crit is gone
So np gain per hit = round down(servantBase x cardMod x cardUp x npGenUp x enemyMod) x overkill
Let's try Valk Summer with Castoria, Paracelsus and Xu Fu setup (no overkill and vs archer wave):
NP refund = round down(0.23 x 3 x (1+110%) x (1+130%) x1) x 1 x 10 hits x 3 enemies = 99.9%
Notes:
overkill = 1.5 for overkill/overgauge; otherwise 1
enemyMod = 1 for Knight class; 1.1 for Rider; 1.2 for Caster; 0.9 for Assassin; 0.8 for Berserker
cardMod = 3 for Art; 1 for Quick
cardUp and npGenUp = 1 + total % of your team's buffs
As a newer player I have zero clue what that first half of that ment
@@midnight-envy TLDR;- they are damn good to loop. get her, level her up all skills and machine gun the shit out of enemy waves.
I have no idea why they’re assassins with guns, but I am in no way complaining cuz my god they look really cute in their new outfits 😊
Absolutely lookin forward to them
Man I just love them, even if they end up not good farmers it's just a W for Valk enjoyers
Also Ortlinde best Valk 😌
Not gonna lie, I can't choose one or the other. I'll just let a dice choose for me and pray for two more opportunities to get the other two.
The costumes are seperate Valks my dude, it's 6 servants (technically).
Three choosables, and three event locked.
This is one of those things I didn't know I needed but wow do I need it.
I hope there’s some way to get all 3 versions. Either some event shop shenanigans on the rerun or by having a double rerun. Splitting up the girls is just cruel
Ideally, we'll be able to get all three from the event, the rerun, and the Main Interlude, but this is called into question by the fact that Summer 6 hasn't yet had its rerun when it should have before Summer 7, and by how few Main Interludes we've gotten relative to how many events exist in FGO
@@luckyc4t110 I doubt the main interlude will be used that often. The only reason the current events got added to the main interlude is because they’re plot relevant, S.E.R.A.P.H is technically an epic of remnant and ooha is where we fight Kama (not sure about the Christmas event) so unless it’s plot relevant to be “canonized” so to speak it probably won’t get a main interlude. On that note considering how often that welfare appears in cutscenes I believe the prisma illya event will become a main interlude
Was sad I didn’t get Valkyrie on the Arjuna Alter banner so I came here to hear Ztl talk about the welfare Valkyrie when I learned that she had a ftp welfare ver from Myst’s assassin tier list. I got Arjuna alter and a K scope but still sad cause I went in to do only waifu rolling
Hildr gang here!
they can loop with black grail. even on zerkers aparently
Zerker Mushashi Np gain: 0.51%
Zerker Musashi skill buff np gain: +50% => 0.765
Np = 4 hits, so 3.06 np gain.
Now lets go over Blondy:
Np gain: 0.23
Skill np gain buff: 20% from first skill, so => 0.276 np gain now
Skill np gain buff: 20% from the second skill, so => 0.3312
Ok, that seems low.
Np = 10 hits, so.... 3.312 np gain.
They have higher np gain than Zerker Musashi if we are talking about 3 enemy wave farming.
If they hit overkill on hit 6 or so, they will easily refund the entire np.
And that skill 3 just makes suuuuuure that they have their np ready for wave 3
This looks good, hope yo right.
Additionally, they will more often than not face rider enemies so there is also a 1.1x np gain modifier (which you can't reliably count for musashi as she can be used for all classes)
A lot of people are expecting Summer Skadi to be a new Quick Support, but OG Skadi synergized well with the Valkyries, so what if Summer Skadi is made to synergize with Summer Valkyries and becomes another new Arts support?
I swear if she's another arts support...
Don't say that bro, I need a quick support with my Charlemagne
i’ve heard from other players that they’re not another casgil situation where his np gain on np was purposefully gimped so he couldn’t loop.
so their face cards will charge like ass, but they should loop fine with their np
Drop the star bomb with the card buff up a few crits should help compensate.
Picking Ortlinde but yea assassin and caster have the lowest class dmg modifier
assassin is tied with caster with a .9 mod with archers at .95
Bruh why did thrud not get the green haired valk costume if she did it wouldn’t be a hard choice
If you can only pick one and the rerun gives the other how do you get all three? Cause as a NA player looking into the future would really like to know this.
maybe theyd make it a main interlude?- or is that just copium
@@eomermanaloto8681 I've seen speculation like this elsewhere, that there's 3 SSRs because it'll be made into a main interlude, and that'll mean you'll be able to get all three.
Haven't heard how weighty the story is, so who knows, the more major the story beats the more likely that gets.
Alternatively, maybe we'll be paying rare prisms to get the last one?
I'm NA too, but I kind of understood there's six Valkyries, so paying RPs for costumes would make more sense if it becomes a main interlude
They have the valkyrie buff thing and having all the valkyries both assassin and lancer sound like fun so I hope they make it a main interlude so we can RIP rider quests
I'm taking Thrud first and keeping her permanently as the alt valk.
Ortlinde is my pick
Why wasn't double Castoria tried before posting the vid
Can’t since they aren’t available as rosterable yet
@@trdl23 Okay
Ty
i have high hopes for them with double castoria and proto merlin supports. not gonna be the best but if it works it works.
Fucking sadge i havent cleared 3rd lostbelt yet
Don't worry, you only need to have Fuyuki cleared.
@@PurpleHeartE54 Welp looks like i was just on the wrong version i was on the na not the jp lol
fgo will never let the arts aoe welfares win
i get that theyre free np5 but still
Sad but true
Sig probably making a sad face right now lol
Their face card np gain is really scuffed but their NP is actually fine for once (not CasGil situation)
They're actually BG/6CE viable, completely F2P with Xu Fu, Paracelsus and Castoria
With that team comp her NP even without overkill can refund back to 100% (though barely) on Knight classes (1x mod), higher on Rider (1.1x mod)
Their damage with that team should be around 75~80k neutral, assuming worst case scenario that they might have dogshit atk stat like Lancer version
So can they farm rider that all I need the to do
Hildr
A rare waifu, excellent taste.
how well does she (they)ｌｏｏｐ ｗｉｔｈ ｃａｓｔｏｒｉａ ？
Did you just forgot xu fu?
ZTL: Xu *Who???*
So one question how do you unlock these servants? Do you need to summon Valkyrie or do you need to contiue with the campaign of Arctic Sumemr World because i cant read japanese and the thing i hate with Special events for any game that is Foreign is finding the info because and even the release date?
they are obtainable(as of today) by clearing a stage that unlocks after completing the story of Arctic Summer though you can only obtain 1 of the 3.(you also have to unlock the dupes by clearing the stages that drop those upon completion as well to get NP5)
@@elitheeditor you need to level the area's green ones to level 10.
@@naotokujikawa2751 what about unlocking her permanently? is it bond 5 max ascend?
@@naotokujikawa2751 how do i ascend her like how do i get her ascension item? Does it mean i have to keep grinding for 300?
@@ianirfan7712 yeah,you pick hers up from the event shop for 300 of the Ice drop per ascension item,so its overall 1,200 ice to fully ascend.
look at that awful np gain on hit. Is this a cas gil scenario allover again?
It's actually lower than his
@@BlackHeart1216 I hear he's been nerfed to 0.16%
So he's actually worse now.
@@BlackHeart1216 Gil is about 30% worse with his NP
I'm picking Thrud.
Probably never going to use them, they seem pretty mediocre and i have better options like Kiara, Koyanskaya, Morgan and now Arcueid.