one of these was once found in a parking lot where I live. it fell out of its owner's jacket pocket. he was given a slap on the wrist by the police. imagine carrying such a small gun you don't even notice it go missing!
I had an old 120lb Bullmastiff. When her arthritis was bad towards the end once she fell down a hill when I was walking her and while picking her up my NAA fell out of my pocket holster. I noticed it missing 3 min later but that was a scary second until I found it in the grass. Last time I used that pocket holster without a zippered pocket
It happened here in Italy a few years ago not far from where I live. A bloke lost an NAA mini revolver in a hotel, and a waitress shot herself with it thinking it was a cigarette lighter. She wasn't badly injured luckily
The "between the cylinders" safety notch is a very old method of making a single action revolver safe. The trick to lowering the hammer is to pull the hammer *all the way* back until it hits the frame, and then pulling the trigger (this moves the sear while it's not engaged with the hammer, no chance of a surprise bang). Ease the hammer forward while holding the trigger back, but release the trigger when the hammer is past the half-cock notch. Yes, it's fiddly.
With all the talk going around about Alec Baldwin claiming his gun fired on it's own, I pulled out one of my Super Redhawks to see if it had any mechanism to prevent the hammer from falling from a partially cocked position. Next thing I know, I'm sitting there with a cocked and loaded 44mag... De-cocking guns always is the suck :(
Actually the NAA doesn't require you to pull the hammer all the way back to lower it. Just half cock spin the cylinder and then hold the hammer and lower it down onto the safety notch. I have had several of them and it was all the same.
@@john-paulsilke893 Crickett also makes a pistol version of their single-shot with a 10 inch barrel, although it is designed for adult hands. I bough one recently, and it makes a nice little suppressor host.
The amazing thing is a lot of people carry this revolver as there self defense carry. A gun is better than no gun at the end of the day nobody wants to get stung by by the 22 magnum this is a gun for those who know how to place the shot in the right place.
It should be noted that contradictory to what he says 22 Mag out of a 4 inch barrel has the energy of a 22 LR out of an 18 inch barrel. At least according to Bullet By the Inch's data
@@flightlesschicken7769 this is part of the common mythology in gun lore. A .25acp is weaker then a .22lr. Of course it is, but when you compare a .22 out of an 18” gun and the .25 out of a 2.5” gun. Many more examples such as the snub .357 vs .38 vs .38 +P and even .44 special vs .44 mag out of 1 7/8” barrels and the like.
you may want to try this test again but with 22 magnum ammo that is intended for pistols. Most 22 Magnum and LR ammo is loaded with slower burning rifle powder or mixed powder. I have a few 22 magnum pistols and i can notice a difference between the standard/rifle ammo and the pistol specific 22 ammo.
I love my NAA Mini Revolvers and regularly carry them. The Magnum version comes with a barrel as short as 1" in the United States. My Magnum has a 1 5/8" barrel and a .22 LR conversion cylinder, and I have two .22 LR revolvers with 1 1/8" barrels. They all try to jump out of your hand when fired. The smallest version is chambered in .22 Short only. A truly tiny gun. They all are though. They're quite popular here in the United States, and more than a few have been used effectively in legitimate defensive shootings. Plenty of law enforcement officers carry them as a sub-backup gun. The tiny Mini Revolvers have saved the day for a number of people over the years, and even appeared in a few movies. Probably most notably in the British police comedy movie Hot Fuzz. There was also one in a private detective movie with Val Kilmer and Robert Downey Jr., but I can't recall the title. The .22 Magnum does outperform the .22 LR even in a 1" barrel, but not by a whole lot. Muzzle flash and blast is rather remarkable though for such a tiny gun. I'm also especially fond of my High Standard Derringer in .22 Magnum from 1970. The 3 1/2" barrels actually get the little slug going pretty good, and I've chronographed a number of loads that substantially exceed the velocity of .22 LR from a rifle. Velocities are in the 1,200 to 1,400 feet per second range. Also plenty of flash and blast, with surprisingly sharp and somewhat unpleasant recoil.
I love my NAA .22 mag! Yes you must practice loading, unloading, and placing the hammer in the notches. It’s a simple design and they’re not expensive. I have the folding handle model, it’s like a pocket knife kinda. My NAA revolver is my favorite and easiest gun to carry.
Quite correct about the shortest barrels are more efficient with 22LR. The magnums are not more powerful but they are way louder. Maybe louder can be helpful in a self defense situation.
These are FAR safer than you indicate. They were insanely popular locally as police backup guns as well as citizen CCW guns. They still are quite popular even now, just somewhat eclipsed by micro .380s and .32s. I've owned several and I know many people who owned and carried them daily. We who were in Law Enforcement had to qualify with them (we had a BUG/OD course) which included reloading and we practiced with them a lot (they are just so much fun). NOT ONE of the many folks I know ever had a ND placing the firing pin into the safety notch. First off, if you lack the dexterity to do that you lack the dexterity to load the weapon. But mainly, you needn't draw the hammer all the way back to move it to the safety notch. In fact, all you need do is move it a tiny amount so you can rotate the cylinder to the desired spot and then let down the hammer. I've tested several load, dropping the hammer from that sub-half-cock distance and not ONE fired. As many of these as there are floating about and in pockets and purses, if they were that dangerous, we'd be hearing about folks pulling a Baldwin regularly. It's just not so.
Thats why its best to run the cowboy load which is keeping the barrel aligned cylinder chamber empty to avoid misfires, this was a common safety practice during the early revolver days
I actually live not too far from the NAA factory in Utah. These are mostly just for fun and a throwback to the old west parlor pistols. Maybe for taking out rats or snakes at close range. They even make cap & ball versions of these. The safety notch, while it may seem odd on modern firearms was actually a very effective safety on old 19th century old west Colts - you can trust it. These things are also machined to insane tolerances. They do make larger semi auto pistols for self defense, including some interesting calibers like the 32 NAA (a .380 necked down to fire a .32 caliber bullet at higher velocity than a 32 ACP). Very interesting company overall.
I found the cap and ball version of this, 1 5/8" barrel, .22 magnum cylinder length. So much fun to shoot, especially when there is a bit of grease in the base of the bullet that lets you see the bullet's path in flight.
Screw off youtube; I have this channel with notifications and I GOT NONE. I was looking just now and there’s two videos this past few weeks and none was notified. This channel is so informative and needs as much awareness as possible; and youtube doesn’t even notify me when there’s new videos here. Ugh.
I noticed that after 4:58 the two shots sounded different. The first one was supersonic at 358 m/s and the sound was longer and sharper, whereas the second was subsonic at 333 m/s and the sound was kind of short and dull due to no bullet breaking the sound barrier and carrying on the shockwave downrange. Such little details are what makes me love guns and all the gun stuff!
Years ago a friend of mine fired six 22 magnum hollow point rounds into a clear stream trying to hit a water moccasin. When the water cleared the bullets were in the bottom of the stream and they had all started to expand in the water (they didn’t hit any rocks), so I’m surprised those didn’t expand even a little in the gel. I have a smaller NAA revolver in 22 magnum and 22 LR (convertible cylinders) and it is way more deadly than a fist or big stick. And they make a lot of noise and a big flash (unburned powder igniting outside the barrel) and unless someone knew what you were shooting they would think it was a big bore pistol. I fired once without ear protectors without thinking and will never do that again. Good explanation of putting the hammer in the notches. This is not for a beginner unless they want to practice putting it in the safe mode. There was an article some years back about a governor of one of the states who used one to kill a coyote that was attacking his dog. I don’t have any details though.
1000 fps is actually pretty good, especially for a revolver. Hornady makes a defensive ammo for shorter barrels. My sister likes the low recoil and it hits/recoils harder than .22lr
I love how with guns you always have to say “the smallest ever… that I know of” because there’s always that one guy who made the smallest gun ever in his shed
I own this pistol with a 1 inch barrel chambered in 22Mag. It has the very small original grips. It is a beast to shoot. An assassins weapon or a purse or boot gun.
Those safety notches aren't sketchy at all. They work and I've never heard of anyone ever having an accidental discharge with a NAA revolver. Only an idiot could mess that up.
Have the shorter version, and it is indeed silly fun. planning on making a scope mount for it, and possibly a bracket so I can make it an underbarrel for my Beretta 92S. Just because it's dumb. I just get the cheap stuff, but apparently there are a few manufacturers making 22 magnum with slightly different powder burn characteristics for pistols. Might be worth testing some if you need more of an excuse to play with it for a while.
Excellent video, Thank You. I recently purchased an NAA .22 magnum revolver with the 1-5/8" long barrel and wish I had seen this video prior to buying it. I agree with you 100% on everything you point out about these little pistols. The gun is more of a novelty rather than being of practical use. Yes, it really is a risky undertaking to place the hammer into the safety notch position with live rounds in all 5 chambers. Loading and/or reloading models that require you to remove the front retention pin and cylinder in the field will be tricky while trying not to drop or lose any necessary parts. If you are seriously intent on having and using an NAA revolver, my suggestion is to instead purchase one of the Sidewinder or Ranger II models that don't require you to remove the cylinder.
Well, everything wasn't right. For one 22 Mag out of a 4 inch barrel has the energy of 22 LR out of an 18 inch barrel. 3 inches is where 22 Mag and 22 LR really start to diverge in terms of velocity with only minor difference at 2 inches. Other than that he was spot on. An interesting novelty
Good choice on the 22mag ,other channels have tested it in a short barrel to. All those channels came to the same conclusion, the 22mag offer just enough of advantage to make the difference most the time in the test. Check out lucky gunner, paul Harrell, ect. Their some crossover in small barrels which is why ammo selection is more paramount in them . However with the right ammo selection 22mag out performs 22lr, even in a short barrel.
I have the .22 short version of this gun, and about half the time it will shoot all the way through a 2x4. The bullets that don't make it through come very close. Shot over my chronograph with Remington ammo I got 34 ft/lbs of M.E. Potentially lethal if placed properly, but I certainly wouldn't want to count on it. My .22 magnum version genetates twice the K.E.
Thanks for the feedback, it's still a work in progress to be honest, I kind of like the large version on shirts, but I'm not too conviced on the small one
For smallest revolver, I think the record holder was the 'swiss minigun' in 2.34mm rimfire. There were also pinfire ones like the xythos, made as a collector's item.
I have the Earl 22mag with a 4 inch barrel. I love that little gun. Putting the hammer in the safety notch is easy and I've never had the fear of dropping the hammer on a live round while doing it. Also get 22mag designed for pistols like Hornady 45 grain hallowpoint, Winchester PDX1 Defender witch i have and, Speer Gold Dot for 22mag.
It is not sketchy at all and these are not novelties. They are real guns designed for a real purpose. I have personally carried a Black Widow loaded with 5 rnds, as a back up gun for more than a decade with zero problems and I know others who have as well. The problems that you claim are only problems for inexperienced firearm owners. Also there is a distinct reason for chambering a shirt barrel revolver in .22 WMR over .22LR. That being that the .22 WMR is a non-heeled bullet design where the bullet is crimped inside of the neck of the cartridge case as opposed to the .22 LR which is a heel based bullet design. Where a slightly smaller diameter base (heel) of the bullet is crimped into the case. This is why many .22LR bullets move slightly in relation to the cartridge case when you handle them. The significance of this is that the .22 WMR uses inside bullet lubrication whereas the .22 LR, like all heel based cartridge, uses outside bullet lubrication. This is why .22 LR cartridge are slightly sticky and that stickiness can cause cases to stick in the chamber and or allow debris to stick to the bullet causing greater fouling and more difficult case extraction when reloading. Some argue that the non-heeled design also gives better sealing of the cartridge case from moisture. The bottom line is that velocity is not the only difference between .22 WMR and .22 LR when fired from short barrels.
One thing about the 22 magnum in short barrels. If you did need to use it at night in low light the sound, muzzle flash and powder burns would probably get the attackers attention even if you didn't hit them lmao
Thank you for all your videos. I especially appreciate your restoration videos and have learned a lot from them. I see you're in Italy. I am an Italian living in the US and planning on moving back to my hometown in Emilia Romagna, but being a gun nut, I'm concerned I wont be able to keep up with my hobby! I know Italian gun laws are pretty strict. Where in Italy are you? How difficult is it to acquire firearms there? Thanks again!
Actually 22mag does have a slight but noticeable advantage in even a short barrel. Lucky gunner and a few other channels have tested it with all the same results. 22 mag does offer a advantage even in shorter barrels.
So strange to see your hand jiggle when loading but super steady when shooting. One of my shooting buddy’s has the same thing only much more pronounced. It’s so weird because he can shoot the wings off a bumblebee in flight. When he shoots single action guns and is in between cocking it’s also pronounced and obvious but again disappears when squeezing the trigger. And of course as usual excellent work. Very complete, entertaining and also concise.
I have the NA Arms MAG snub nose. It’s smaller lol. People will talk crap, but these are awesome little guns. Aggravating to load, but perfect for stashing
also resting the hammer in the slots is completely legit and not sketchy, its the same style as the remington 1858 new model army. a proven way of carrying. its not that hard.
I don't know about the NAA, by I hold the drum with my hand while engaging the safety notch on my 1858, so I can guarantee that even if the hammer does drop, there's no primer in the way.
According to Ballistics by the Inch, .22 LR out of a 4 inch barrel travels *significantly* slower than .22 WMR from a 4 inch barrel. I can't say if it is the extra gunpowder or slightly higher chamber pressure but it is not an insignificant difference. According to their data, the 4 inch barrel .22 WMR should have the same energy as a .22 LR shot from an 18 inch barrel. Seeing as the velocities approximately match at a given bullet weight. .22LR absolutely is not equivalent to .22 WMR at a 4 inch barrel length Here's the link if you are curious on the exact breakdown: ballisticsbytheinch.com/22.html Edit: just to given an example from their data (leaving it in imperial as the exact value doesn't matter as much as the the magnitude of difference) .22 LR: Brand, bullet weight, velocity with an 18 inch barrel (with a 4 inch barrel) -CCI Stinger, 32gr, 1510 ft/s (1191 ft/s) -Winchester Super X, 40gr, 1250 fr/s (1043 ft/s) .22 WMR -CCI Maxi-Mag HP +V, 30gr, 2322 ft/s (1510 ft/s) -Hornady Flex Tip eXpanding, 45gr, 1773 ft/s (1239 ft/s).22 LR: Brand, bullet weight, velocity with an 18 inch barrel (with a 4 inch barrel) Edit: I know he says similar values in meters/second, but I feel he downplayed the ballistic different a bit
Very nice to get a new video from you. Have a Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year. 😎 Very much enjoy the style of your videos. Information and facts without being boring in any way. Thanks for the videos.
In the U.S. "dodgy" refers to someone being evasive. "I spoke with a representative, but I couldn't get all the information I needed because she was being dodgy."
You could always carry the gun with all the cylinders empty. Then you could load the gun when you needed it. You would probably be found dead in an attack but the gun would be safe and couldn't go off by accident.
I'll take a Beretta Mod 71, if I wanted something compact in .22 rimfire (if you can find one). Compact, but not too small to grip properly. The Model 71 holds more ammo and can be reloaded fast. The lack of cylinder to barrel gap means getting similar performance from cheaper .22 LR ammo as the silly "jumbo shrimp" .22 mag revolver.
Looked like you used Fioochi 40gr ammo. If one had to use that gun for SD there is better ammo. Remington and Hornady make a 32gr ballistic tip round that has more velocity due to lighter bullets.
If i had a choice would rather get myself a COBRA 9MM DERRINGER or a Bond Arms Snake Slayer .45/.410. -- any modern derringer. Yes it only chambers two rounds at a time but its a lot less of a headache to reload and there are models chambered for all modern pistol rounds -- I think theres even one that takes a rifle round though i cant remember which one. Probably saw it on Hickok45's channel ages ago.
In the case of the double barrel revolver you mentioned (the 333), you would be perfectly justified in criticising this product. The gun itself and the company behind it have proven to be absolutely atrocious, both in performance and also in customer support. That gun is nothing but a disaster.
Doesn't restricting the gel cause the bullet to not penetrate as deep, because it's restricted? Unlike a regular gel block, it won't allow expansion of the gel, because it has the hard plastic shell keeping its shape.
I can tell you exactly what the ballistic gelatin reminds me of. (And I wouldn't be surprised if it's what you can't put your finger on too.) It looks just like a Fleshlight!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Can you make bullet casings like 9mm and .223/5.56? I know some of the process the big companies use but I don’t have a factory with big expensive machines.
I would STRONGLY suggest that anyone using a mini revolver should first practice putting it in the safety notch with the cylinder empty before doing it with live rounds. Some have found it quite difficult. Great firearms, but not a good choice fora beginner.
Isn't the length of the barrel on a revolver irrelevant, except for the greater accuracy afforded by the distance between the sights? Unless the revolver has a method of creating a gas seal between the cylinder and the barrel like a Webly, it doesn't increase the space for pressure to build up, as it will just vent out through the gap.
Actually your statement about so much gas leakage at the cylinder gap isn't true. I have seen tests on that subject and there is not nearly so much gas leakage as you might think. It's been too long to give a link or the numbers but as I recall the percentage of velocity loss is very low, in some aspects of the testing it was in the single digits(?). The really counter-intuitive part was that the percentage of loss was greater in shorter barrels than longer ones, go figure? The max barrel length tested was 8", might change with a longer one. As a point of reference, Ian of Forgotten Weapons referenced a similar test with the same results, in one of his videos. Thanks
“I’m no sharp shooter”
Proceeds to get a good group at that distance with a 4 inch barrel and an awkwardly small gun
your no shootist unless you can shoot a quarter thrown 100 yards behind you while looking through a mirror
Through a camera no less
Real decent group for any hand gun.
...but I'm still better than all of you 🤣
one of these was once found in a parking lot where I live. it fell out of its owner's jacket pocket. he was given a slap on the wrist by the police. imagine carrying such a small gun you don't even notice it go missing!
these are commonly found at the airports because people forget they have them
I had an old 120lb Bullmastiff. When her arthritis was bad towards the end once she fell down a hill when I was walking her and while picking her up my NAA fell out of my pocket holster. I noticed it missing 3 min later but that was a scary second until I found it in the grass. Last time I used that pocket holster without a zippered pocket
It happened here in Italy a few years ago not far from where I live. A bloke lost an NAA mini revolver in a hotel, and a waitress shot herself with it thinking it was a cigarette lighter. She wasn't badly injured luckily
White privilege
@@MasterHaloOne nice b8 m8
"To the town of Milan rode a stranger one fine day..."
"(Not so) big iron on his hip"
Small iron
Small nickel
This makes my iron the small iron.
Hardly spoke to folk around him, didn’t have too much to say...
Fellas, you can be magnum at any size.
But always remember, magnum is less effective at smaller sizes.
@@EvelynH-tj1qt gets the job done
This magnum looks cold
All it takes is a great mustache and hair and a terrible Hawaiian shirt 🤣🤣🤣
"something I've seen before but can't remember where"
interesting product ideas for a company making flashlight shaped products. 🤣🤣🤣
It reminds me of the body of a tripletail fishing lure
@@ethanhartle8548 well you have the cleanest mind here lmao
@@The.dudeinatorit reminded me of some good Flan 🍮
The "between the cylinders" safety notch is a very old method of making a single action revolver safe.
The trick to lowering the hammer is to pull the hammer *all the way* back until it hits the frame, and then pulling the trigger (this moves the sear while it's not engaged with the hammer, no chance of a surprise bang). Ease the hammer forward while holding the trigger back, but release the trigger when the hammer is past the half-cock notch.
Yes, it's fiddly.
I've had, shot and carried one for 25 years. It does not require all that and is very easy and safe to notch the hammer blade.
With all the talk going around about Alec Baldwin claiming his gun fired on it's own, I pulled out one of my Super Redhawks to see if it had any mechanism to prevent the hammer from falling from a partially cocked position.
Next thing I know, I'm sitting there with a cocked and loaded 44mag...
De-cocking guns always is the suck :(
Hopkins & Allen originally Patented the "safety notch" system in the 1870's for their spur trigger rimfire revolvers.
Actually the NAA doesn't require you to pull the hammer all the way back to lower it. Just half cock spin the cylinder and then hold the hammer and lower it down onto the safety notch. I have had several of them and it was all the same.
finally, a magnum for the 4 year old child
A Cricket single shot rifle is much better. Also perhaps 4 years old is a bit young. Also I know you were joking.
@@john-paulsilke893 Crickett also makes a pistol version of their single-shot with a 10 inch barrel, although it is designed for adult hands. I bough one recently, and it makes a nice little suppressor host.
.22 swagnum
The amazing thing is a lot of people carry this revolver as there self defense carry. A gun is better than no gun at the end of the day nobody wants to get stung by by the 22 magnum this is a gun for those who know how to place the shot in the right place.
This thing is awesome. Thanks for the upload an merry christmas!
They should definitely made a special editon with a 16" Barrel.
Some weirdo would buy it. Especially if it had a stock and scope rings. 🤣
(That person may look a lot like me.)
It should be noted that contradictory to what he says 22 Mag out of a 4 inch barrel has the energy of a 22 LR out of an 18 inch barrel. At least according to Bullet By the Inch's data
@@flightlesschicken7769 this is part of the common mythology in gun lore. A .25acp is weaker then a .22lr. Of course it is, but when you compare a .22 out of an 18” gun and the .25 out of a 2.5” gun.
Many more examples such as the snub .357 vs .38 vs .38 +P and even .44 special vs .44 mag out of 1 7/8” barrels and the like.
@@john-paulsilke893 Yep
@@flightlesschicken7769 doubt that. A 22lr already spits a lot of unburned powder out of short barrels. the 22 Magnum will do far worse.
This is very interesting to watch as an American that lost all my guns in a boating accident
How many?
@@theothertonydutch Wouldn't you like to know.
I hope you got the T-shirt too.
you may want to try this test again but with 22 magnum ammo that is intended for pistols. Most 22 Magnum and LR ammo is loaded with slower burning rifle powder or mixed powder. I have a few 22 magnum pistols and i can notice a difference between the standard/rifle ammo and the pistol specific 22 ammo.
Hell, even the rifle stuff out of a 4 inch barrel has the energy of a 22 LR out of a 18 inch barrel
Glad you are well! Good to have new video from you.
When cutting this open, I can't quit remember what it reminds me of🤔
I love my NAA Mini Revolvers and regularly carry them. The Magnum version comes with a barrel as short as 1" in the United States. My Magnum has a 1 5/8" barrel and a .22 LR conversion cylinder, and I have two .22 LR revolvers with 1 1/8" barrels. They all try to jump out of your hand when fired. The smallest version is chambered in .22 Short only. A truly tiny gun. They all are though. They're quite popular here in the United States, and more than a few have been used effectively in legitimate defensive shootings. Plenty of law enforcement officers carry them as a sub-backup gun. The tiny Mini Revolvers have saved the day for a number of people over the years, and even appeared in a few movies. Probably most notably in the British police comedy movie Hot Fuzz. There was also one in a private detective movie with Val Kilmer and Robert Downey Jr., but I can't recall the title. The .22 Magnum does outperform the .22 LR even in a 1" barrel, but not by a whole lot. Muzzle flash and blast is rather remarkable though for such a tiny gun. I'm also especially fond of my High Standard Derringer in .22 Magnum from 1970. The 3 1/2" barrels actually get the little slug going pretty good, and I've chronographed a number of loads that substantially exceed the velocity of .22 LR from a rifle. Velocities are in the 1,200 to 1,400 feet per second range. Also plenty of flash and blast, with surprisingly sharp and somewhat unpleasant recoil.
The rubbery of the gel reminds me of fishing worms
I love my NAA .22 mag! Yes you must practice loading, unloading, and placing the hammer in the notches. It’s a simple design and they’re not expensive. I have the folding handle model, it’s like a pocket knife kinda. My NAA revolver is my favorite and easiest gun to carry.
Quite correct about the shortest barrels are more efficient with 22LR. The magnums are not more powerful but they are way louder. Maybe louder can be helpful in a self defense situation.
Great review! While I can't ever see owning one, it's nice to see an honest review!
Well thats a gun you don´t see everyday. Interesting!
These are FAR safer than you indicate. They were insanely popular locally as police backup guns as well as citizen CCW guns. They still are quite popular even now, just somewhat eclipsed by micro .380s and .32s. I've owned several and I know many people who owned and carried them daily. We who were in Law Enforcement had to qualify with them (we had a BUG/OD course) which included reloading and we practiced with them a lot (they are just so much fun). NOT ONE of the many folks I know ever had a ND placing the firing pin into the safety notch. First off, if you lack the dexterity to do that you lack the dexterity to load the weapon. But mainly, you needn't draw the hammer all the way back to move it to the safety notch. In fact, all you need do is move it a tiny amount so you can rotate the cylinder to the desired spot and then let down the hammer. I've tested several load, dropping the hammer from that sub-half-cock distance and not ONE fired.
As many of these as there are floating about and in pockets and purses, if they were that dangerous, we'd be hearing about folks pulling a Baldwin regularly. It's just not so.
who needs a Big iron when you have a smol iron
Thats why its best to run the cowboy load which is keeping the barrel aligned cylinder chamber empty to avoid misfires, this was a common safety practice during the early revolver days
I actually live not too far from the NAA factory in Utah. These are mostly just for fun and a throwback to the old west parlor pistols. Maybe for taking out rats or snakes at close range. They even make cap & ball versions of these. The safety notch, while it may seem odd on modern firearms was actually a very effective safety on old 19th century old west Colts - you can trust it. These things are also machined to insane tolerances. They do make larger semi auto pistols for self defense, including some interesting calibers like the 32 NAA (a .380 necked down to fire a .32 caliber bullet at higher velocity than a 32 ACP). Very interesting company overall.
I found the cap and ball version of this, 1 5/8" barrel, .22 magnum cylinder length. So much fun to shoot, especially when there is a bit of grease in the base of the bullet that lets you see the bullet's path in flight.
Been engaging my safety notch for almost 30 years without a problem. Just point the damn thing in a safe direction when doing it.
Screw off youtube; I have this channel with notifications and I GOT NONE. I was looking just now and there’s two videos this past few weeks and none was notified. This channel is so informative and needs as much awareness as possible; and youtube doesn’t even notify me when there’s new videos here. Ugh.
Those "ballistic jell bottles" look like something id make in high school in my bedroom..............
8:29.... the subtle fleshlight joke
I was immediately a little unsettled that the gelatin was flesh colored 🤣🤣
Now all we need is a huge frame, ginormous barrel, thicc grips and all chambered in .22LR
I noticed that after 4:58 the two shots sounded different. The first one was supersonic at 358 m/s and the sound was longer and sharper, whereas the second was subsonic at 333 m/s and the sound was kind of short and dull due to no bullet breaking the sound barrier and carrying on the shockwave downrange. Such little details are what makes me love guns and all the gun stuff!
The way you communicate your videos is super refreshing! :)
Years ago a friend of mine fired six 22 magnum hollow point rounds into a clear stream trying to hit a water moccasin. When the water cleared the bullets were in the bottom of the stream and they had all started to expand in the water (they didn’t hit any rocks), so I’m surprised those didn’t expand even a little in the gel. I have a smaller NAA revolver in 22 magnum and 22 LR (convertible cylinders) and it is way more deadly than a fist or big stick. And they make a lot of noise and a big flash (unburned powder igniting outside the barrel) and unless someone knew what you were shooting they would think it was a big bore pistol. I fired once without ear protectors without thinking and will never do that again. Good explanation of putting the hammer in the notches. This is not for a beginner unless they want to practice putting it in the safe mode. There was an article some years back about a governor of one of the states who used one to kill a coyote that was attacking his dog. I don’t have any details though.
Despite his poor memory another fine video!
1000 fps is actually pretty good, especially for a revolver. Hornady makes a defensive ammo for shorter barrels. My sister likes the low recoil and it hits/recoils harder than .22lr
I love how with guns you always have to say “the smallest ever… that I know of” because there’s always that one guy who made the smallest gun ever in his shed
I own this pistol with a 1 inch barrel chambered in 22Mag. It has the very small original grips. It is a beast to shoot. An assassins weapon or a purse or boot gun.
Those safety notches aren't sketchy at all. They work and I've never heard of anyone ever having an accidental discharge with a NAA revolver. Only an idiot could mess that up.
The shorter barreled version of this revolver also comes in .22 Magnum. I have one.
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Have the shorter version, and it is indeed silly fun. planning on making a scope mount for it, and possibly a bracket so I can make it an underbarrel for my Beretta 92S. Just because it's dumb. I just get the cheap stuff, but apparently there are a few manufacturers making 22 magnum with slightly different powder burn characteristics for pistols. Might be worth testing some if you need more of an excuse to play with it for a while.
I did saw the inconsistency with the double barrel .22LR pistol.
The gel reminds me of a fleshlight.
Thanks, I hate it.
I was thinking of a large beetle grub. The Chafer Beetle comes to mind.
I think that says more about you than the gel. ;)
Would you use it though?
Blokes shoot into those too!
Excellent video, Thank You. I recently purchased an NAA .22 magnum revolver with the 1-5/8" long barrel and wish I had seen this video prior to buying it. I agree with you 100% on everything you point out about these little pistols. The gun is more of a novelty rather than being of practical use. Yes, it really is a risky undertaking to place the hammer into the safety notch position with live rounds in all 5 chambers. Loading and/or reloading models that require you to remove the front retention pin and cylinder in the field will be tricky while trying not to drop or lose any necessary parts. If you are seriously intent on having and using an NAA revolver, my suggestion is to instead purchase one of the Sidewinder or Ranger II models that don't require you to remove the cylinder.
Well, everything wasn't right. For one 22 Mag out of a 4 inch barrel has the energy of 22 LR out of an 18 inch barrel. 3 inches is where 22 Mag and 22 LR really start to diverge in terms of velocity with only minor difference at 2 inches.
Other than that he was spot on. An interesting novelty
Good choice on the 22mag ,other channels have tested it in a short barrel to. All those channels came to the same conclusion, the 22mag offer just enough of advantage to make the difference most the time in the test. Check out lucky gunner, paul Harrell, ect. Their some crossover in small barrels which is why ammo selection is more paramount in them . However with the right ammo selection 22mag out performs 22lr, even in a short barrel.
I have the .22 short version of this gun, and about half the time it will shoot all the way through a 2x4. The bullets that don't make it through come very close. Shot over my chronograph with Remington ammo I got 34 ft/lbs of M.E. Potentially lethal if placed properly, but I certainly wouldn't want to count on it. My .22 magnum version genetates twice the K.E.
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Thanks for the feedback, it's still a work in progress to be honest, I kind of like the large version on shirts, but I'm not too conviced on the small one
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For smallest revolver, I think the record holder was the 'swiss minigun' in 2.34mm rimfire. There were also pinfire ones like the xythos, made as a collector's item.
In the next episode, Mario Ramsay bashes 75 different models of handguns: It's flaaaaaaaaaaaawed!
NAA also makes a model in .22 short. The NAA-22S
I have the Earl 22mag with a 4 inch barrel. I love that little gun. Putting the hammer in the safety notch is easy and I've never had the fear of dropping the hammer on a live round while doing it. Also get 22mag designed for pistols like Hornady 45 grain hallowpoint, Winchester PDX1 Defender witch i have and, Speer Gold Dot for 22mag.
It is not sketchy at all and these are not novelties. They are real guns designed for a real purpose. I have personally carried a Black Widow loaded with 5 rnds, as a back up gun for more than a decade with zero problems and I know others who have as well.
The problems that you claim are only problems for inexperienced firearm owners.
Also there is a distinct reason for chambering a shirt barrel revolver in .22 WMR over .22LR. That being that the .22 WMR is a non-heeled bullet design where the bullet is crimped inside of the neck of the cartridge case as opposed to the .22 LR which is a heel based bullet design. Where a slightly smaller diameter base (heel) of the bullet is crimped into the case. This is why many .22LR bullets move slightly in relation to the cartridge case when you handle them.
The significance of this is that the .22 WMR uses inside bullet lubrication whereas the .22 LR, like all heel based cartridge, uses outside bullet lubrication. This is why .22 LR cartridge are slightly sticky and that stickiness can cause cases to stick in the chamber and or allow debris to stick to the bullet causing greater fouling and more difficult case extraction when reloading.
Some argue that the non-heeled design also gives better sealing of the cartridge case from moisture.
The bottom line is that velocity is not the only difference between .22 WMR and .22 LR when fired from short barrels.
One thing about the 22 magnum in short barrels. If you did need to use it at night in low light the sound, muzzle flash and powder burns would probably get the attackers attention even if you didn't hit them lmao
Thank you for all your videos. I especially appreciate your restoration videos and have learned a lot from them. I see you're in Italy. I am an Italian living in the US and planning on moving back to my hometown in Emilia Romagna, but being a gun nut, I'm concerned I wont be able to keep up with my hobby! I know Italian gun laws are pretty strict. Where in Italy are you? How difficult is it to acquire firearms there? Thanks again!
Actually 22mag does have a slight but noticeable advantage in even a short barrel. Lucky gunner and a few other channels have tested it with all the same results. 22 mag does offer a advantage even in shorter barrels.
This looks like you'll need to revive the old Laterano tradition and load four leave one.
They also make a revolver that only has a cylinder long enough for 22 short. That is the smallest standard production revolver.
federal punch and a few others have fast burning powder that improves volosity some.
Another good info video. I will quit using my Magnum clyinder on my NAA revolver and just carry the .22 LR.
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So strange to see your hand jiggle when loading but super steady when shooting. One of my shooting buddy’s has the same thing only much more pronounced. It’s so weird because he can shoot the wings off a bumblebee in flight. When he shoots single action guns and is in between cocking it’s also pronounced and obvious but again disappears when squeezing the trigger.
And of course as usual excellent work. Very complete, entertaining and also concise.
My tremor only regards fine movements luckily, and is very reduced when I'm staying still.
Thanks for the feedback by the way! 😉
I have an NAA .22mag with maybe an inch barrel. It is a fun range toy. That is about al it is worth. Even with the 6" barrel it is a range toy.
I'd be interested to see the results of the newer ammo available that is designed for shorter barrels.
I have the NA Arms MAG snub nose. It’s smaller lol. People will talk crap, but these are awesome little guns. Aggravating to load, but perfect for stashing
also resting the hammer in the slots is completely legit and not sketchy, its the same style as the remington 1858 new model army. a proven way of carrying. its not that hard.
I don't know about the NAA, by I hold the drum with my hand while engaging the safety notch on my 1858, so I can guarantee that even if the hammer does drop, there's no primer in the way.
@@phileas007 the NAA is the same way just smaller
Since there are safety notches between each chamber it is, IMHO, quite safe.
I would like to see testing with other ammo
Aww, what a cute little fella
According to Ballistics by the Inch, .22 LR out of a 4 inch barrel travels *significantly* slower than .22 WMR from a 4 inch barrel. I can't say if it is the extra gunpowder or slightly higher chamber pressure but it is not an insignificant difference.
According to their data, the 4 inch barrel .22 WMR should have the same energy as a .22 LR shot from an 18 inch barrel. Seeing as the velocities approximately match at a given bullet weight. .22LR absolutely is not equivalent to .22 WMR at a 4 inch barrel length
Here's the link if you are curious on the exact breakdown:
ballisticsbytheinch.com/22.html
Edit: just to given an example from their data (leaving it in imperial as the exact value doesn't matter as much as the the magnitude of difference)
.22 LR: Brand, bullet weight, velocity with an 18 inch barrel (with a 4 inch barrel)
-CCI Stinger, 32gr, 1510 ft/s (1191 ft/s)
-Winchester Super X, 40gr, 1250 fr/s (1043 ft/s)
.22 WMR
-CCI Maxi-Mag HP +V, 30gr, 2322 ft/s (1510 ft/s)
-Hornady Flex Tip eXpanding, 45gr, 1773 ft/s (1239 ft/s).22 LR: Brand, bullet weight, velocity with an 18 inch barrel (with a 4 inch barrel)
Edit: I know he says similar values in meters/second, but I feel he downplayed the ballistic different a bit
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Very much enjoy the style of your videos. Information and facts without being boring in any way. Thanks for the videos.
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In the U.S. "dodgy" refers to someone being evasive. "I spoke with a representative, but I couldn't get all the information I needed because she was being dodgy."
They actually make a mini revolver in 22 short (shorter frame and cylinder than their 22lr's) which is the smallest revolver currently manufactured...
With such a dodgy safety setup, it'd be wise to load (cylinder count -1) to have a safe cylinder.
You could always carry the gun with all the cylinders empty. Then you could load the gun when you needed it. You would probably be found dead in an attack but the gun would be safe and couldn't go off by accident.
Awesome vid!
That color ballistic gel looks like you are cutting into fish lol
I'll take a Beretta Mod 71, if I wanted something compact in .22 rimfire (if you can find one). Compact, but not too small to grip properly. The Model 71 holds more ammo and can be reloaded fast. The lack of cylinder to barrel gap means getting similar performance from cheaper .22 LR ammo as the silly "jumbo shrimp" .22 mag revolver.
Looked like you used Fioochi 40gr ammo. If one had to use that gun for SD there is better ammo. Remington and Hornady make a 32gr ballistic tip round that has more velocity due to lighter bullets.
Love the ballistic fleshlight LMAO!!!
the hollow point didn't even open up
If i had a choice would rather get myself a COBRA 9MM DERRINGER or a Bond Arms Snake Slayer .45/.410. -- any modern derringer. Yes it only chambers two rounds at a time but its a lot less of a headache to reload and there are models chambered for all modern pistol rounds -- I think theres even one that takes a rifle round though i cant remember which one. Probably saw it on Hickok45's channel ages ago.
In the case of the double barrel revolver you mentioned (the 333), you would be perfectly justified in criticising this product. The gun itself and the company behind it have proven to be absolutely atrocious, both in performance and also in customer support. That gun is nothing but a disaster.
Doesn't restricting the gel cause the bullet to not penetrate as deep, because it's restricted? Unlike a regular gel block, it won't allow expansion of the gel, because it has the hard plastic shell keeping its shape.
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I can tell you exactly what the ballistic gelatin reminds me of. (And I wouldn't be surprised if it's what you can't put your finger on too.) It looks just like a Fleshlight!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Looks so sleek
Strikes me as more of a for the lols gun than anything, maybe a novelty gun to get some laughs at the range.
I'd probably buy one
Can you make bullet casings like 9mm and .223/5.56? I know some of the process the big companies use but I don’t have a factory with big expensive machines.
Hmmm Not Too Bad at All Mate I really like it already 😉
How come the thin wall of cylinder do not blow up, is it not a critical failure point.
What a gun safety nightmare
I wonder how long I’d get in prison if I got caught owning one of these in England? 😐
Don't get caught
Depends on how "diverse" you are. If you're a gang member you might get sent to a program.
Can the hammer be set in the safety notch while the cylinder is being loaded into the frame? That would be the solution in my mind.
How heavey is the trigger pull?
I like how absurdly pronounced the barrel looks, and then you realize it’s only a mere 4 inches. The rest of the gun is just that minuscule
I would STRONGLY suggest that anyone using a mini revolver should first practice putting it in the safety notch with the cylinder empty before doing it with live rounds. Some have found it quite difficult. Great firearms, but not a good choice fora beginner.
Can u do one on a 25 Auto or 32 acp
This revolver definitely sounds like it needs to be cowboy loaded. Hammer resting on an empty chamber.
Isn't the length of the barrel on a revolver irrelevant, except for the greater accuracy afforded by the distance between the sights? Unless the revolver has a method of creating a gas seal between the cylinder and the barrel like a Webly, it doesn't increase the space for pressure to build up, as it will just vent out through the gap.
Actually your statement about so much gas leakage at the cylinder gap isn't true. I have seen tests on that subject and there is not nearly so much gas leakage as you might think. It's been too long to give a link or the numbers but as I recall the percentage of velocity loss is very low, in some aspects of the testing it was in the single digits(?). The really counter-intuitive part was that the percentage of loss was greater in shorter barrels than longer ones, go figure? The max barrel length tested was 8", might change with a longer one. As a point of reference, Ian of Forgotten Weapons referenced a similar test with the same results, in one of his videos. Thanks
they make a smaller one in 22 short. my ex gf had one, crazy lil thing
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@@mateoguillen6918 both hahahahaha