I remember some videogames journalist 15 years ago complaining about the emerging trend of games with locked content. They used the analogy of a car with additional fees to unlock basic functionality to illustrate how absurd it was. Looks like we've come full circle.
Nicely _painted_ Z4! Couldn't help but needing to rewind the video because I sometimes couldn't follow the words. The beauty of that color actually distracted me.
@@PinoyZo1 on the drive back from Rochester to NC I was able to make 30-32mpg average, and that includes the time spent with RCR for the review as well as a couple of other detours.
@@spartan117zm great, I’m definitely looking at potentially getting one. Maybe next year model to see any upgrades or buy a 2021 for a bit cheaper. Thanks for info
@@jama211 you’re either really rich or just a kid who still don’t have a license. Had a M3 and had to top off gas ever 4-5 days. Which will most likely force people to get a daily driver with good mileage and only drive the sports car very lightly. With a sports car with good mileage, you can literally use it as a daily driver.
The supra may remember your butt preferences but the Cressida can remember your birthday On your birthday the cressida will play a little jingle for you
My car is a real Toyota with (as RCR described it) a booty. I'm on my fifth Camry wagon and always wanted a Cressida because of their luxury weirdness.
"It's like going to see Vulpeck but they just play Ramones covers" is such a beautifully niche thing to say in a car review, and it's the little details that make me appreciate RCR.
@@forgetful5630 Like imagine you're ready to show up and sing one of the three-part harmonies on "Back Pocket" and then you slowly realize THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PLAY IT
When I worked at a BMW dealership, I once saw a Supra getting an oil change. I asked the tech how it felt, to be changing the oil on a Toyota. He said its a freaking bmw.
So all that talk about Toyota collaborating with BMW on the design was just a load of BS. All they collaborated on was the size of the Toyota badges and the check.
No shit? I have 12 years old BMW 530td it has 400k km of mileage and it looks and drives like a charm. 2 minor failures occurred: suspension got wiggly on bad roads and because I was still driving not fixing I screw-up a set of expensive tires. Rear doors had cables broken in easy to fix the place. And Drive got crazy a few years ago. Needed reloading part of the drivers. Toyota and BMW are right now the most reliable cars in their countries of origin,
I believe the engine will be okay but the electronics are notorious in BMWs to screw up... Toyota was involved in this process so it may be okay? Time will tell.... but wait didn't I just hear about oil dilution in these engines?!
@Aquatic Ape Are you high? Do you like to be told the moment you open the property YOU OWN the manufacturer have the right to void your warranty? Or are you so incompetent you don't even dare to try?
"It's like going to see Vulfpeck but they just play Ramones covers." "It's as classically exciting as Fu Manchu's The Action is Go. Good times from start to finish." I'm weeping with endless tears of joy. Thank you.
“You were perfectly capable of making a car and you didn’t.” They did. The Lexus RCF should’ve been the Supra. It looks more like the Mark IV, is Toyota, but they locked that behind the Lexus badge and price tag.
@@זהסודי-ה7מ you’re right, and while I’d be sad without an inline 6, I’d rather be sad in a TOYOTA Supra powered by an amazing V-8 than have a reskinned BMW with a Supra badge.
@@ErnestoPicazo92 Not really, the base price of a 1994 Supra was $40k (or about $70k in today’s money) while an LC500 starts around $94k. The Supra is a nimble sports car while the LC500 is a big and heavy GT car and is much more luxury focused
the rcf is completely different. It's a v8 barge, not an i-6 sports car, and it's chassis is a frankenstein of 15-year ols and 8-year old existing models.
@@FlameOnTheBeat to be fair, I know some old heads that buy older AMGs because they want older AMGs And now that Mercedes is switching over to turbo i4 the old v8 are getting snatched up at an even higher price
what he doesn't realize is that all the good parts of the supra (the engine) was developed by yamaha and all the mediocre stuff (literally everything else) was toyota
Nah, i think goes a little more like this: If you want to revive a legendary nameplate, don't. Somebody else already makes a better spiritual successor.
@@gummostump4217 Indeed, because the latest NSX was fully developed by Honda/Acura and is nearly the same case of dissapointment compared to prior generations.
@@DominikMaslyk Crossovers are an abomination. SUVs are good for actually doing shit and also having traction on wet roads. Crossovers are oversized minivans with little true offroad or snow capability aside from AWD.
"Hey Toyota, this Supra's art style is a little different from the last time you drew it." "Yeah, it's been a while since I've drawn Supra but I did something different." "It almost looks like BM-" *"I'M TRYING SOMETHING DIFFERENT"*
But the FT1 was entirely Toyota's design, with no inspiration at all from BMW, they just had to drape the design of the FT1 over the Z4's chassis once they decided they would work with BMW. Even if Toyota designed the chassis of the A90, it would still look very similar to this, maybe even more modern, just with a longer wheelbase. The only reason the A90 turned out different from Toyota's original FT-1 concept is because they picked an already finished chassis
@@StuninRub at any level, new cars are so well made (so to speak) that they have no character. my '18 WRX drives like it's supposed to and reacts the way I expect it to but my '98 is like a wild animal that needs to be tamed
@@InitiateDee Being shit at something is not "character". You don't even approach the realm of character with these econo-box sports cars, regardless of the age or period. The fact you think a compromise of convenience means there is automatically a special trait to the car, shows that you know absolutely nothing.
The thing that gets me is that it's not performance, or cosmetic, or comfort features locked up behind a paywall - it's SAFETY features. "What if I don't spend the extra $3k?" "You might die, or kill someone."
Yeah man, stupid bass-akward thinking that spawned this travesty in the first place. It would've made more sense for Toyota to have built a proper Supra and then sold the platform to BMW, no one would've cared then.
I'm agree with the idea that making a customer pay extra for something already there is immoral. But the fact that it's safety features doesn't matter. Nobody owes safety to anybody else for free.
@@xtnuser5338 always with the fucking owing argument. You paid for the car goddammit, you are by default OWED everything that comes in a normal modern vehicle at that price point
People always say "If the MK5 is a BMW then the MK4 is a Yamaha. What people fail to realise is that Yamaha helped tune the 2JZ and not build the entire car, unlike BMW
@@christopheroconnor4665 BMW didn’t nor do they make this car. It has BMW parts in it yes that’s true but BMW doesn’t manufacture the car. Hell they don’t even make their own car, the Z4. A company subcontracted by both companies known as Magna-Steyr in Austria makes both vehicles, which is known as a parts bin manufacturer, aka they build cars using a mix and match of parts from a ton of different companies. Toyota and BMW aren’t the only ones that have their vehicles made there, plenty of other car companies have them make vehicles too. The A90/A91 Supra is not Japanese but it’s not German either. The Z4 is also not German, as the car’s originate from Austria
I wonder how long until the software cracking community starts getting into unlocking vehicle features. Plug a module into the OBD port, it plays some rad MIDI tunes while it does its thing and voila. "Additional features unlocked."
OBD eleven already exists, for a lot of makes and models of cars you can unlock features you would normally pay extra. Even smaller VAG group cars and Audis.
When I heard that Toyota was going to come out with another Supra I was so excited. Then I found out it was nothing but a re-badged BMW and I couldn't care less about it. Like opening a Baby Ruth wrapper to find a turd instead.
Toyota said they wanted to keep a straight 6 to keep in line with the spirit of the Toyota Supra, but I guarantee we would have preferred a Toyota / Lexus sourced turbo V6 over a literally rebadged BMW - The GTR went from a straight 6 to V6 and look how well that car has been received.
@@bam_henry I understand why people would be upset with toyotas decision, and I was also one of those people initially. However, this will never change and we have to live with what ultimately happened. Ive driven an M240i with the b58 and I can tell you that engine is extremely potent while also being very fuel economical for what it is.
GTI here and it's so true. I'd rather feel planted banging it through a corner than to have to fight it any time I want to have a little fun. (but to be fair, i'd probably have a blast with a RWD V8 car too)
I remember hearing for the longest time that Toyota didn't want to do a new Supra. That the 2002 model was to be the last. Period. Like GM and the Corvette, they just wanted to be done with it. And after almost 2 decades of pestering, people finally got a new one. Only Toyota's heart wasn't in it. They got BMW to do the work, then half-heartedly dressed it up in their image. Honestly, if this is to be the Supras of the future, it was better off staying in the past.
@Saint Fifty One I am glad they did. It has finally allowed the mid engine version that fans have been clamoring for decades to come to fruition. In hindsight, the new Corvette's front looks like an updated Ferrari 360. I like it.
Mr. Regular.. you capture my feeling for the A91 perfectly... PERFECTLY.. "MK5 Supra, this is like the valedictorian copying someone else's work".... *Chefs kiss with that outro
There's rumors that BMW is going to start charging a monthly subscription for CarPlay in their cars. The supra is the only car that charges for radar cruise control, standard in every other Toyota
I just wanna say I think this is the funniest Chanel on UA-cam your voice overs are so funny and witty and to the point I’ve been watching for years and years. Love from NJ
Perhaps the channel is not for reviews of regular cars, but rather regular reviews of cars. That is to say, Regular (Car Reviews) instead of (Regular Car) Reviews.
I don't understand people who thought they would bring back the 2JZ, it's a 30 year old engine that hasn't been produced since the early 2000s, and nobody can bring up the 1UZ because it has been continuously update since its introduction. The 90's are dead and we killed it. Btw, this has no real relation to the video, besides maybe the bit about instant boost being not a part of the character of the Supra or whatever.
Yea. The only reason the Supra was ded, is because nobody bought it. nobody was interested in a 78 grand Toyota. That's why the Lexus IS300 2JZ and SC300 2JZ sold way better than the MK4 Supra
@@זהסודי-ה7מ this. The MK4 was a old man's car, you had lots of leather, not very stiff suspension (on the lower trims that is) and a heafty price tag, but it was still a Toyota. The SC300/400 on the other hand, sold relatively well, and it was what the Supra was based on. I imagine in the 90's, if someone wanted a sports car, they probably would have bought a Corvette instead, or a RX-7.
I mean, people didn't want the 2JZ back, they wanted a modern i6 Toyota engine (probably a collab with Yamaha and be based on a Lexus platform) and what they got is a BMW "collab" where the car is basically a BMW Z4 tuned by Toyota; BMW made the entire car from the mechanics to the interior, there's so much BMW in this car even the key fob is BMW. With that being said, I'm not gonna say it's a bad car, you've probably watched the reviews, you've probably watched Papadakis make a 1000hp B58 and I agree with this comments that say it was a sales failure. As a car for what it is, is pretty good car, but legacy-wise is a failure.
If you're not a Toyota nerd, this is great. It's pretty, fast, and not a corvette so you have an alternative for looking flashy in that price range. That being said, if I was already in the 50k range for a car, I'd save up for a few more months and just buy a c8
I considered the C8, but in the same vein of what you’d said, I kinda liked how different this car is - It’s not just a random Corvette that you’ll find everywhere. I’m too young to have really known the old Supra era, so for me I wasn’t too concerned about it being so different from what we had in the past.
Fortunately, like the og supra, this thing absolutely LOVES to be modified. It'll get pretty massive power numbers with very little investment, and the handling only gets much better with a few suspension bits
"eh, it looks ...there... i guess." ---saw one in person for the 1st time just yesterday, my reaction. even before knowing anything technical about it, the car says "missed opportunity" to me... and now that i do know, the visual interpretation is fitting.
@@philithegamer8265 I loved how the Japanese engineer showing it said the fake air vents are for future designs with more power. Then why the hell didn’t you make it have more power right now???!!!!!!! People wanted a new GodZilla if they got a Supra with 1,000hp they would have bought it even with the stupid BMW engine.
here's an interesting counter to this entire thesis: the mark 4 isn't as great as the videogames made it out to be and and expectations you had for the mark 5 are overblown because the mark 4 in your head never existed.
@@Rolf97 If the Supra had to have been 100% Toyota with no outside input, it'd be a Toyota CH-R. A 4-door, CUV, Straight-4, FWD most of the time, hybrid. At least, with BMW collaborating, you get a hardtop, RWD coupe, with a Straight-6 in the nose, just like any Supra has been ever since the original Mk I MA-45 Celica-Supra was.
@@E9X330 Neither the RCF, nor the LC500 are Supra sized sports coupes. Honestly, they're closer to being sedans, and the reason they got produced, was because much of their structure came from sedans (the RCF can trace its lineage to the IS, and LC500 comes from the Lexus LS). The reason they got made, was because they didn't need to make a completely new, coupe chassis for them. As for the Yaris GR. That's a hatchback. So which is it? Do you want a 100% Toyota made Supra, that's based on a hatchback, or a lardy sedan? Or do you want a Toyota Supra, that's actually a sportscar, like every other Supra before it, but it may have non-Toyota bits in it?
What will irritate everyone even more (aside from a paywall for features) is that Toyota partnered with BMW in an attempt to make the Mk5 profitable on its own vs the BRAAAAAAND carrying the cost over to other models. Compared to the new Nissan Z car, where Nissan did go it alone and admitted the new Z car will likely not be profitable and will need to rely on others model sales to shoulder the cost. It was most likely mainly a balance sheet move to partner with BMW.
Nissan is also carrying a lot of parts over from the 370z to cut costs. Toyota didn't really have another car to do that with. People would have criticized them if they had re-styled/recycled the RCF or nearly anything else...too big, too heavy, the Supra didn't have a V6 or V8, etc. A lot of the purists just need to admit that nothing would have pleased them. In order to build the car that would, in theory, please them, it would be $100k+, and they would complain about the price. Most people that are complaining about BMW reliability couldn't afford a new Supra or BMW. They're most likely potential 2nd or 3rd owners, because most people that buy $50k sports cars (or any new care for that matter) either don't keep them outside of warranty or they don't drive them enough for them to have real reliability issues.
I unironically love the A90 for its “I don’t know what I am or what I want to be, but I’ll be darned if I’m not going to go out and be it” look on the front.
why can't every review be like yours.. i agree with everything you said, but i still stand by that it's one of the most beautiful looking cars in its price range
@@quintessenceSL I guess this is the time when I have to say that BMW engineers were mad at Toyota engineers because during Supra development they kept breaking parts during the durability testing and sending those parts back to Germany with field notes that could be resumed as "build better parts or we're out"
The A90 is - or at least should be - a lesson. What people can learn from this car, their perceptions and disappointment of this car and the car industry at large are a few things: curbing and checking your expectations, observing more (the state of the industry), not overhyping something and placing it on a pedestal, and the need to actually educate yourself about cars and the automotive industry. I have never seen RCR succumb and battle with such strong cognitive dissonance before. This is what the modern sports car is like. All modern sports cars are like this car. Everything in this car are common of modern cars. The current 2021 Supra would of been like this (or even worse) regardless of whether Toyota put the nameplate on a 15 year hiatus or not. It is not the fault of the car or the brand that you had such unrealistic expectations, its not the fault of the car or the brand that US JDM Bros (and JDM Bros in other western countries) looked at a with car rose tinted glasses, fetishizing and overhyping it to the point where it gathered a literal cult-like following (many of its followers hardly know anything about cars or the industry either), retroactively putting it atop a pedestal and giving it god-like status. As a little aside, this cult around the vehicle (and a few others), along with JDM Bros in general, also have a habit of ruining the many specimens they vaunt so much, making the drift tax what it is. Your expectations and fetishization and resulting cognitive dissonance and disappointment are yours. Your fault, your problem and your responsibility. The A90 Supra is like Cyberpunk 2077 - except in this case the car is perfectly fine and is actually a decent sports car, and that Toyota did absolutely nothing to market or hype the vehicle to be more than what it actually is.
love to see some monster John Deere tractor just to hear the excellent “right to repair” rant we’re pretty much guaranteed to get, if we got it lol has RCR ever done a tractor anyway? 🤷♂️
Your ways of expressing sarcasm to convey your displeasure is an art form on its own XD On side note, yea, I'm disappointed that the latest Supra is pretty much a BMW (Which mean, questionable reliability and possibly pricey maintenance).
The Mark 5 Supra is the car you bring home to show your Dad because he had a mark 3 when you were a kid, and you want him to know you've made it. He walks around it, sighs, shakes his head a little, and tells you "don't forget to change the oil in this thing" while he unironically sips on a PBR.
@@BigWheel. People say that PBR is a hipster beer. What they don't understand is that there are poor people with flannels and beanies that actually enjoy it.
Odd question, but if we've already submitted our car via email, should we resubmit it under the new system or nah? Also RARE COLOR RARE COLOR but it is a nice color tho.
Drove from Chicago to Detroit just to see this when it was brand new. I wasn’t happy but now after seeing them more and more I love them. Although nothing will replace the MKIV
Here’s the way I look at it. All the people going “nice bmw” aren’t the market this is aimed at, nor could they afford it new anyway. The people who have $53k to drop on a new sports car aren’t interested in the exact details of who made what. They know they like the Supra name and they know the car does everything they want it to do.
I know I'm only one data point, but... You're talking about a personality trait (the willingness to throw a sarcastic dig at somebody) and a technical interest in cars (caring about who made what parts). Neither of those has anything to do with a person's financial status. I would say it, and I'm mildly rich. Not RICH rich, but definitely enough to go write a check for a $53K car without missing any sleep.
The thing RCR and many other critics of the new Supra forget is the fact that back in the 90's the A80 shared a platform, engine and many of it's parts with a lot of Toyota and Lexus's fleet. Looking at Toyota's current fleet, there's not a single platform worthy of the Supra. And well, Lexus is more about luxury than speed. So what option is left? Make a brand new platform and engine from scratch for just a single low production sports car? Not gonna happen. That being said, I don't see the point in this car when you can get a Corvette for a similar price.
@@dudocaine Lexus always was more about luxury than speed, that doesn't mean the MK5 couldn't have been based on a Lexus platform, you're aware the j29 shares it's platform with EVERY rwd bmw ? Including the 7 series ?
@@E9X330 You mean CLAR? Yes, it's their modular platform, iirc they even use it for some SUVs. The thing is, Toyota/Lexus does not have anything similar. There were rumors of Toyota testing the FT-1 (or was it the GR Supra concept?) with the 2UR engine, but they probably scrapped it for price and performance reasons.
"Like the valedictorian copying someone else's work." Nicely put. Extremely well put. Toyota, you listening? We want to see what YOU can do. Not BMW, not Subaru.
I remember some videogames journalist 15 years ago complaining about the emerging trend of games with locked content. They used the analogy of a car with additional fees to unlock basic functionality to illustrate how absurd it was. Looks like we've come full circle.
Welcome to corporate kid.
Least they dont force the mostly unessicary options down your throat like most new cars.
Least its an option
@@gangatalishis Welcome to the end of the "normal" way of life.
It's 2030, you will own nothing and you'll be happy... Or some none sense bullshit.
@@junyangli8882 right? Or "you'll be taken care of...and you'll damn well like it"
Everyone knew this video had to be opened with "Nice z4."
Predictable 😔
well it is a Z4
@@salv5203 it's more of a clusterfuck of all bmw models, at least parts wise
can't believe people aren't over the meme yet
Nicely _painted_ Z4!
Couldn't help but needing to rewind the video because I sometimes couldn't follow the words. The beauty of that color actually distracted me.
This car is turning in your older brother's history essay to the same 7th grade teacher two years later.
Lol
And forgetting to change the name
That's oddly specific
@@archiethedog4515 Diary of a wimpy kid
Greg Heffley
"I love brisket. But I was in a taco head space"
You have articulated something I've always felt but been unable to express. Bravo.
Mr.Regular IS an english major.
Dang, that thing gets better milage than I expected. Nice
Makes me want to buy tbh, a sports car with decent MPG is a big plus for me
@@PinoyZo1 on the drive back from Rochester to NC I was able to make 30-32mpg average, and that includes the time spent with RCR for the review as well as a couple of other detours.
@@spartan117zm great, I’m definitely looking at potentially getting one. Maybe next year model to see any upgrades or buy a 2021 for a bit cheaper. Thanks for info
Who the fuck cares about mileage, it's a fucking sports car!
@@jama211 you’re either really rich or just a kid who still don’t have a license. Had a M3 and had to top off gas ever 4-5 days. Which will most likely force people to get a daily driver with good mileage and only drive the sports car very lightly. With a sports car with good mileage, you can literally use it as a daily driver.
"I love brisket, but I was in a taco headspace" is such a perfect description
goddamn, does anyone make brisket tacos??@
@@oldfrend um, yes.
@@oldfrend me.
Risk it for the Brisket !
My grandparents bought a shit ton of brisket from sam's club. I ate nothing but brisket for a week, since then I've sworn off eating brisket.
The supra may remember your butt preferences but the Cressida can remember your birthday
On your birthday the cressida will play a little jingle for you
In the same vein of 90's Daihatsu's "Hello Happy" message when you started the car. Sort of.
Don’t know if it’s all newer Subarus, but my ‘15 STI would store birthdays and anniversaries on it.
@@EcclecticNerd same as my grandma's 15 forester base
@@EcclecticNerd
They still do it.
My car is a real Toyota with (as RCR described it) a booty. I'm on my fifth Camry wagon and always wanted a Cressida because of their luxury weirdness.
I can sum up this video in 2 sentences... 2021 SUPRA. IT'S GOOD, I GUESS.
WHAT THE BRZ SHOULD'VE BEEN
"It looks fine"
- Scott Wozniak
@@ricky7973 ew hell no the BRZ is exactly what it should be. Maybe lacking some torque in stock form but the car feels incredible
@@brandonsever2576 The new version did not solve that? i mean the 'new' current year edition.
@@ricky7973 This is as much a Toytoa as the BRZ is...
I love how he's so honest yet conflicted in this video, just like the mk5 supra
The audio compression went from clear as day to "01101000 01100101 01101100 01110000" real quick during the merch plug!
"It's like going to see Vulpeck but they just play Ramones covers" is such a beautifully niche thing to say in a car review, and it's the little details that make me appreciate RCR.
Haven't heard Romones reference in ages.
My disappointment would be immeasurable and my day ruined
@@forgetful5630 Like imagine you're ready to show up and sing one of the three-part harmonies on "Back Pocket" and then you slowly realize THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PLAY IT
@@kz1000ps worse would be joe dart not slapping the bass, like if they didnt play daddy he got a tesla id be sad haha
Lines like that are precisely why I watch every second of these videos.
I thought the website bit was a joke, referring to the old days of UA-cam with that crappy old voice recording.
Same, the lower than usual quality, the 3fps video, the awful cropping. Was 100% sure it was another joke.
Sam Hyde levels of quality, to the point where you don't know if it's genius or intentional or artistic
Or it is such a joke that it's serious.
Don’t like compressed audio? I’LL HELP YOU PACK
same here
When I worked at a BMW dealership, I once saw a Supra getting an oil change. I asked the tech how it felt, to be changing the oil on a Toyota. He said its a freaking bmw.
So all that talk about Toyota collaborating with BMW on the design was just a load of BS. All they collaborated on was the size of the Toyota badges and the check.
@@markm0000 Pretty much
@@markm0000 There isn't one part on this car that's made by Toyota. But they did send their engineers to help "tune it"...
@@markm0000 iirc they actually did a good amount of stuff on the unibody, which does matter for handling.
But yeah thats it, nothing mechanical.
@@afish8883 UA-cam's been recommending again!
7 years later, when it's randomly falling apart and the dash is lit up, the truth of its origins will have emerged.
Oh, like most BMWs?
*ignores Toyota's role in the development because I want to believe "muh BMW" narrative*
No shit? I have 12 years old BMW 530td it has 400k km of mileage and it looks and drives like a charm. 2 minor failures occurred: suspension got wiggly on bad roads and because I was still driving not fixing I screw-up a set of expensive tires. Rear doors had cables broken in easy to fix the place. And Drive got crazy a few years ago. Needed reloading part of the drivers. Toyota and BMW are right now the most reliable cars in their countries of origin,
@@HanSolo__ what you said about reliability and their respective countries... maybe correct but in the USA it's different....
I believe the engine will be okay but the electronics are notorious in BMWs to screw up... Toyota was involved in this process so it may be okay? Time will tell.... but wait didn't I just hear about oil dilution in these engines?!
Never mess with another man's woman
Never mess with another man's ego
Never mess with a man's manual transmission
Amen.
But bro, the flappy paddles is 0.368746 seconds faster. Screw having fun, rather be quick.
@@cefb8923 since when are the flop paddles not fun
@@THESLlCK When you've ever driven a manual
@@THESLlCK compared to manual, its pretty shit in terms of fun
6:01 this is part of why companies are so deathly scared of the right to repair movement.
they should be scared fuck em
Shout-out to Louis Rossmann
@@CarputingYT I'm glad he is getting more and more attention.
These companies should know that if they don't fix their stuff we will. But corporate greed always wins.
@Aquatic Ape Are you high? Do you like to be told the moment you open the property YOU OWN the manufacturer have the right to void your warranty? Or are you so incompetent you don't even dare to try?
"It's like going to see Vulfpeck but they just play Ramones covers." "It's as classically exciting as Fu Manchu's The Action is Go. Good times from start to finish." I'm weeping with endless tears of joy. Thank you.
The Fu Manchu reference is so goddamn explicative, it's absolute genius
@@DimIsHigh It’s a great analogy, and a great album.
I love it anytime I find out somebody listens to Fu Manchu.
He dug deep for those references. Bravo.
evil eye is a helluva intro
When he said "I want to own my car, I want to really own it," I stood up and clapped.
Read this just as he said it
And then the bus stood up and clapped
AND IT BETTER BE BROWN
@@SwarmAM Brown Brown Brown in the Town Town town!
Upon hearing that magnificent gem of a quote, I found myself getting indulged in letting out a REAL FART.
"It's all there but you're locked out like a student who forgot their combination" This hit home literally
“You were perfectly capable of making a car and you didn’t.”
They did. The Lexus RCF should’ve been the Supra. It looks more like the Mark IV, is Toyota, but they locked that behind the Lexus badge and price tag.
But the fanboys would complain that it doesn't have a 69420hp straight 6
@@זהסודי-ה7מ you’re right, and while I’d be sad without an inline 6, I’d rather be sad in a TOYOTA Supra powered by an amazing V-8 than have a reskinned BMW with a Supra badge.
The LC-500 was pretty much the new supra
@@ErnestoPicazo92 Not really, the base price of a 1994 Supra was $40k (or about $70k in today’s money) while an LC500 starts around $94k. The Supra is a nimble sports car while the LC500 is a big and heavy GT car and is much more luxury focused
the rcf is completely different. It's a v8 barge, not an i-6 sports car, and it's chassis is a frankenstein of 15-year ols and 8-year old existing models.
"Don't buy a car you can barely afford." I felt that
♪ So don't buy things
you can't afford ♫
♪ Be happy with
your old Accord ♪
@@catfish552 Now, THAT'S a jingle!
@@FlameOnTheBeat to be fair, I know some old heads that buy older AMGs because they want older AMGs
And now that Mercedes is switching over to turbo i4 the old v8 are getting snatched up at an even higher price
@@FlameOnTheBeat and used BMWs M...
Don't buy anything
"It's like the valedictorian copying someone else's work." Never has there been a better summation for this car.
But thats exactly thing. Valedictorian are great academics but rarely good on sports. Same with toyota and bmw
what he doesn't realize is that all the good parts of the supra (the engine) was developed by yamaha and all the mediocre stuff (literally everything else) was toyota
@@sumitshresth ??? Hello? The LFA? Lotus?
Lesson learned: if you want your flagship sports car model to utterly disappoint, outsource it to a another moniker.
Nah, i think goes a little more like this:
If you want to revive a legendary nameplate, don't. Somebody else already makes a better spiritual successor.
*GT86 wants to know your location*
@@nonono7973 Eagle Talon
I mean, Toyota could’ve done more to this car. It’s not a “real” Toyota. It’s a rebadged BMW.
@@gummostump4217 Indeed, because the latest NSX was fully developed by Honda/Acura and is nearly the same case of dissapointment compared to prior generations.
"And you're gonna keep this blue bullet shinier than a BALLOON FETISHIST's INFLATABLE COLLECTION!!"
Now THAT is quite a visual I've been given
this is the level of snark we've been missing, good job
In a world awash in SUV filth, count your god damn blessings that this car ever saw the light of day.
True
Crossover (whatever the fuck that means anymore) but okay
@@DominikMaslyk Crossovers are an abomination. SUVs are good for actually doing shit and also having traction on wet roads. Crossovers are oversized minivans with little true offroad or snow capability aside from AWD.
For such an eco woke country you’d think people would stop buying larger and larger cars for just 1 or 2 people to sit in it
Sad, but you make a good point
It's like Toyota saw a "Your Character Here" art commission being offered by an artist, BMW, and tried to pass it off as their own.
the YCH was the "bottom" character in the image i bet.
I don't think I've heard an analogy for this car that I resonate with as much as that
"Hey Toyota, this Supra's art style is a little different from the last time you drew it."
"Yeah, it's been a while since I've drawn Supra but I did something different."
"It almost looks like BM-"
*"I'M TRYING SOMETHING DIFFERENT"*
But the FT1 was entirely Toyota's design, with no inspiration at all from BMW, they just had to drape the design of the FT1 over the Z4's chassis once they decided they would work with BMW. Even if Toyota designed the chassis of the A90, it would still look very similar to this, maybe even more modern, just with a longer wheelbase. The only reason the A90 turned out different from Toyota's original FT-1 concept is because they picked an already finished chassis
"This is like the valedictorian copying someone else's work" Nice!
Yeah that line really sums it up doesn’t it
Yeah, Toyota is the largest vehicle manufacturer on Earth, and yet they can't make their own sports car. LOL
@@nomadben because the bean counters don't want to spend $$ on developing a chassis that is only good for one type of car.
I love how you sound bored during this review. Really reflects the modern day automotive landscape. No passion just technology.
There's passion, you just can't afford it.
@@StuninRub at any level, new cars are so well made (so to speak) that they have no character. my '18 WRX drives like it's supposed to and reacts the way I expect it to but my '98 is like a wild animal that needs to be tamed
@@aspenGF8 Sounds like homoerotic fantasy to me. Shit cars are not good cars.
@@StuninRub They may not be good, but they have character. And to some people, that matters more than convenience
@@InitiateDee Being shit at something is not "character". You don't even approach the realm of character with these econo-box sports cars, regardless of the age or period. The fact you think a compromise of convenience means there is automatically a special trait to the car, shows that you know absolutely nothing.
The thing that gets me is that it's not performance, or cosmetic, or comfort features locked up behind a paywall - it's SAFETY features.
"What if I don't spend the extra $3k?"
"You might die, or kill someone."
Yeah man, stupid bass-akward thinking that spawned this travesty in the first place. It would've made more sense for Toyota to have built a proper Supra and then sold the platform to BMW, no one would've cared then.
I'm agree with the idea that making a customer pay extra for something already there is immoral. But the fact that it's safety features doesn't matter. Nobody owes safety to anybody else for free.
@@xtnuser5338 always with the fucking owing argument. You paid for the car goddammit, you are by default OWED everything that comes in a normal modern vehicle at that price point
I thought people liked the fact Toyota partnered with Yamaha for a few projects. At the end of the day they're still Japanese.
Yamaha makes some of the best engines in the world. I always liked that fact that they collaborated
People always say "If the MK5 is a BMW then the MK4 is a Yamaha. What people fail to realise is that Yamaha helped tune the 2JZ and not build the entire car, unlike BMW
@Saint Fifty One The Mk4 was designed as a 2000GT successor too...
@@christopheroconnor4665 BMW didn’t nor do they make this car. It has BMW parts in it yes that’s true but BMW doesn’t manufacture the car. Hell they don’t even make their own car, the Z4. A company subcontracted by both companies known as Magna-Steyr in Austria makes both vehicles, which is known as a parts bin manufacturer, aka they build cars using a mix and match of parts from a ton of different companies. Toyota and BMW aren’t the only ones that have their vehicles made there, plenty of other car companies have them make vehicles too. The A90/A91 Supra is not Japanese but it’s not German either. The Z4 is also not German, as the car’s originate from Austria
Yamaha worked with Toyota for decades and helped found TRD, back when it was called “Toyota Sports Corner”
This is one of the best reviews of this car I have seen.
This review is just what the car deserves, exactly as much effort and care as Toyota put in
he always has the best reviews. i'd rather hear about a car's pedigree and it's overall _image_ before I hear about the infotainment and crap.
I wonder how long until the software cracking community starts getting into unlocking vehicle features. Plug a module into the OBD port, it plays some rad MIDI tunes while it does its thing and voila. "Additional features unlocked."
They already exist for a lot of cars actually. Though the demoscene style audio cue would be Awesome.
I can see that taking off, but I'd be worried about hackjobs being able to install some kind of malware or porn onto my car.
@@BigWheel. Porn site computer virus in our cars, what a time to be alive...
@@DFX2KX lmao imagine every time you turn on the ignition you hear loud moaning and a nsfw picture.
OBD eleven already exists, for a lot of makes and models of cars you can unlock features you would normally pay extra. Even smaller VAG group cars and Audis.
When I heard that Toyota was going to come out with another Supra I was so excited. Then I found out it was nothing but a re-badged BMW and I couldn't care less about it. Like opening a Baby Ruth wrapper to find a turd instead.
😂😂😂😂😂
Or worse, a baby ruth
“It’s like going to see Vulfpeck but they play Ramones covers”
Best joke on this channel thus far
Honestly I'd love to go see Vulfpeck play all Ramones covers
Shameful underusage of Joe Dart.
@@colin-nekritz IT'S FUNKY
I'd add "and all the instruments are on Casio keyboards from 1993"
The genius of Mr. RCR...comparing a USB to a condom. Just outstanding!!
Waiting for the bus home, and this pops up, god is looking over me, thanks RCR.
I watched this video while having a number 2.
A.K.A. The correct way to watch Regular Car Reviews.
Y'know, this channel has saved me from making further automotive financial mistakes.
I just want to say - from the bottom of my heart - Thank you
Toyota said they wanted to keep a straight 6 to keep in line with the spirit of the Toyota Supra, but I guarantee we would have preferred a Toyota / Lexus sourced turbo V6 over a literally rebadged BMW - The GTR went from a straight 6 to V6 and look how well that car has been received.
The b58 is a great engine though. Thing has monstrous torque for a 3 liter.
@@TheAlienman123 Oh my god, stop defending Toyota's stupid decision to outsource the new Supra to BMW...
@@bam_henry I understand why people would be upset with toyotas decision, and I was also one of those people initially. However, this will never change and we have to live with what ultimately happened. Ive driven an M240i with the b58 and I can tell you that engine is extremely potent while also being very fuel economical for what it is.
@8:36 "You're more likely to be happier in a well handling car then a speed demon"
Someone please gift Mr. Regular a Miata already.
GTI here and it's so true. I'd rather feel planted banging it through a corner than to have to fight it any time I want to have a little fun.
(but to be fair, i'd probably have a blast with a RWD V8 car too)
headlights go up...headlights go down
2021 Toyota Supra, your jazz solo you've been waiting to do ,but you forget you're in marching band.
Didn't expect Mr. Regular to mention Fu Manchu in a vid. That was cool
Seems more like "You said we were getting sushi and here we are at a sauerkraut place"
Man, y’know the last time I was this early my pants weren’t B R O W N
are they brown enough now?
@@yeshwantdasari2075 v e r y
@@florida-boy congratulations
I literally read this in his voice, especially with the B R O W N
I remember hearing for the longest time that Toyota didn't want to do a new Supra. That the 2002 model was to be the last. Period. Like GM and the Corvette, they just wanted to be done with it. And after almost 2 decades of pestering, people finally got a new one. Only Toyota's heart wasn't in it. They got BMW to do the work, then half-heartedly dressed it up in their image. Honestly, if this is to be the Supras of the future, it was better off staying in the past.
@Saint Fifty One I am glad they did. It has finally allowed the mid engine version that fans have been clamoring for decades to come to fruition. In hindsight, the new Corvette's front looks like an updated Ferrari 360. I like it.
Shout out to the Paper floor protector sharing the interior with all that food trash.
That was a product of me being in the middle of driving it home from Rochester. I had just picked it up the day before
@@spartan117zm Well, That makes total sense. I hope you enjoy your new car and have lots of fun picking up chicks with it.
@@gperrin9050 I’ll do my best. Thanks!
I really identified with the Fu Manchu "The Action Is Go" reference. You're absolutely on point.
Mr. Regular.. you capture my feeling for the A91 perfectly... PERFECTLY.. "MK5 Supra, this is like the valedictorian copying someone else's work".... *Chefs kiss with that outro
Thanks for the review!! We had a great time filming with you guys and I’m glad it turned out so well.
Thank you for letting them play with your car. I love that color.
Subscription packages for cars! Yaay!
There's rumors that BMW is going to start charging a monthly subscription for CarPlay in their cars. The supra is the only car that charges for radar cruise control, standard in every other Toyota
Fu Manchu's "The Action is Go", ah yes, you absolute man of culture!
He mentioned my man Wesley Willis in the Camry wagon video
Best stoner rock album of all time
I was surprised too!
I prefer California Crossing myself.
California Crossing is a total BANGER
I just wanna say I think this is the funniest Chanel on UA-cam your voice overs are so funny and witty and to the point I’ve been watching for years and years. Love from NJ
Thanks for the Fu Manchu mention. Seems an appropriate listen for 4/20.
You really need to review another one of Doug Demuro's cars and make most of the dialogue "Doug the type of guy" quotes.
Doug Demuro is the kind of guy that revs a machE in a tunnel
Finally, a re- wait... hey!! THIS ISN’T A REGULAR CAR!!!!!
It really is
Perhaps the channel is not for reviews of regular cars, but rather regular reviews of cars.
That is to say, Regular (Car Reviews) instead of (Regular Car) Reviews.
This is just GRAND METROPOLIS.
* weird/identity crisis car review time
It's just a good-but-regular sports car developed by BMW with Supra badges slapped on it, so the joke's on you.
I don't understand people who thought they would bring back the 2JZ, it's a 30 year old engine that hasn't been produced since the early 2000s, and nobody can bring up the 1UZ because it has been continuously update since its introduction. The 90's are dead and we killed it.
Btw, this has no real relation to the video, besides maybe the bit about instant boost being not a part of the character of the Supra or whatever.
Yea. The only reason the Supra was ded, is because nobody bought it. nobody was interested in a 78 grand Toyota. That's why the Lexus IS300 2JZ and SC300 2JZ sold way better than the MK4 Supra
@@זהסודי-ה7מ this. The MK4 was a old man's car, you had lots of leather, not very stiff suspension (on the lower trims that is) and a heafty price tag, but it was still a Toyota. The SC300/400 on the other hand, sold relatively well, and it was what the Supra was based on. I imagine in the 90's, if someone wanted a sports car, they probably would have bought a Corvette instead, or a RX-7.
I mean, people didn't want the 2JZ back, they wanted a modern i6 Toyota engine (probably a collab with Yamaha and be based on a Lexus platform) and what they got is a BMW "collab" where the car is basically a BMW Z4 tuned by Toyota; BMW made the entire car from the mechanics to the interior, there's so much BMW in this car even the key fob is BMW.
With that being said, I'm not gonna say it's a bad car, you've probably watched the reviews, you've probably watched Papadakis make a 1000hp B58 and I agree with this comments that say it was a sales failure. As a car for what it is, is pretty good car, but legacy-wise is a failure.
At looked at one at a dealer. I found 24 BMW logos without using tools.
Maybe the best episode yet! Love the pro consumer rant! Excellent.
“The Mark V Supra: This is like the valedictorian copying someone else’s work.”
Couldn’t have said it better myself!😄👌🏾
If you're not a Toyota nerd, this is great. It's pretty, fast, and not a corvette so you have an alternative for looking flashy in that price range. That being said, if I was already in the 50k range for a car, I'd save up for a few more months and just buy a c8
I considered the C8, but in the same vein of what you’d said, I kinda liked how different this car is - It’s not just a random Corvette that you’ll find everywhere. I’m too young to have really known the old Supra era, so for me I wasn’t too concerned about it being so different from what we had in the past.
Pretty? Not to me it's not. It's a busy mess of bulges and slots.
@@markmiller3279 I bet you cut your grilled cheese down the middle too instead of into triangles
@@TheFalseProdigy Yes. I like a consistent cross section.
The sales on this will PLUMMET once the new Z hits the ground. Everything we wanted AND a 6 speed.
Nah people don’t want a bmw they want a Supra
The grille on the Z looks like an Eldritch abomination
@@erichdiebenow4727 He meant Z as in the Nissan Z
@@MCTogs The original Fairlady also had a square grill like that, it's meant to be a sort of modern rendition of the old one.
@@shroomyesc yikes I’m retarded
Fortunately, like the og supra, this thing absolutely LOVES to be modified.
It'll get pretty massive power numbers with very little investment, and the handling only gets much better with a few suspension bits
It's stilla dissapointment considering we missed out on the FT1 Concept.
i love how every video always comes back to the miata
I mean... they are always the answer, aren't they?
"eh, it looks ...there... i guess." ---saw one in person for the 1st time just yesterday, my reaction. even before knowing anything technical about it, the car says "missed opportunity" to me... and now that i do know, the visual interpretation is fitting.
Fake air vents...
@@philithegamer8265 I loved how the Japanese engineer showing it said the fake air vents are for future designs with more power. Then why the hell didn’t you make it have more power right now???!!!!!!! People wanted a new GodZilla if they got a Supra with 1,000hp they would have bought it even with the stupid BMW engine.
When the title says A91 and the thumbnail says A92
ikr
Every time hear his voice i think of trevor from GTA 5😂 Entertaining as always
I've always felt he was the automotive equivalent of RedLetterMedia
Didn't think this before reading this comment. Now I can't unhear it.
The official car of university students collaborating on a take-home exam, when the professor explicitly stated that they shouldn't.
here's an interesting counter to this entire thesis: the mark 4 isn't as great as the videogames made it out to be and and expectations you had for the mark 5 are overblown because the mark 4 in your head never existed.
Regardless of how good or not good they were, at least they were actual Toyotas.
The Mk4 was fantastic for its time, the mk5 is meh
@@Rolf97
If the Supra had to have been 100% Toyota with no outside input, it'd be a Toyota CH-R.
A 4-door, CUV, Straight-4, FWD most of the time, hybrid.
At least, with BMW collaborating, you get a hardtop, RWD coupe, with a Straight-6 in the nose, just like any Supra has been ever since the original Mk I MA-45 Celica-Supra was.
@@ShadowFalcon ah yes the Lexus rcf, lc500 and Yaris GR exist
@@E9X330
Neither the RCF, nor the LC500 are Supra sized sports coupes.
Honestly, they're closer to being sedans, and the reason they got produced, was because much of their structure came from sedans (the RCF can trace its lineage to the IS, and LC500 comes from the Lexus LS). The reason they got made, was because they didn't need to make a completely new, coupe chassis for them.
As for the Yaris GR. That's a hatchback.
So which is it?
Do you want a 100% Toyota made Supra, that's based on a hatchback, or a lardy sedan?
Or do you want a Toyota Supra, that's actually a sportscar, like every other Supra before it, but it may have non-Toyota bits in it?
"that's the correct size for a sports car" my Cappuccino begs to differ
What will irritate everyone even more (aside from a paywall for features) is that Toyota partnered with BMW in an attempt to make the Mk5 profitable on its own vs the BRAAAAAAND carrying the cost over to other models. Compared to the new Nissan Z car, where Nissan did go it alone and admitted the new Z car will likely not be profitable and will need to rely on others model sales to shoulder the cost. It was most likely mainly a balance sheet move to partner with BMW.
Nissan is also carrying a lot of parts over from the 370z to cut costs. Toyota didn't really have another car to do that with. People would have criticized them if they had re-styled/recycled the RCF or nearly anything else...too big, too heavy, the Supra didn't have a V6 or V8, etc. A lot of the purists just need to admit that nothing would have pleased them. In order to build the car that would, in theory, please them, it would be $100k+, and they would complain about the price. Most people that are complaining about BMW reliability couldn't afford a new Supra or BMW. They're most likely potential 2nd or 3rd owners, because most people that buy $50k sports cars (or any new care for that matter) either don't keep them outside of warranty or they don't drive them enough for them to have real reliability issues.
Seeing this I can't wait for your review on the new Nissan Z when you get your hands on one!
I like how the "bracers" are just foot long pieces of stainless tubing that anyone with a hacksaw could cut up and bolt to the engine bay.
I unironically love the A90 for its “I don’t know what I am or what I want to be, but I’ll be darned if I’m not going to go out and be it” look on the front.
If I receive a nickel every time someone makes a BMW mk5 joke I would’ve had enough money to buy a new 3.0 mk5
Bro... you gotta be eDGy though for the cool points.
Mate, the mk5 "jokes" aren't jokes. The joke is the car having the name Supra when it does not deserve it
it's not really a joke anymore, it has ascended to a higher level of common sense
Can't be a joke when literally everything in the car is a Z4. That's like saying a Jeep isn't a Chrysler product.
You would then take all of your nickles and buy a car with a stick.
Thank you universe. Now I can go to work.
A worthy sequel to the MK4 video
why can't every review be like yours..
i agree with everything you said, but i still stand by that it's one of the most beautiful looking cars in its price range
Every one underestimate the modifiablity of the BMW engine and how good they really are
"NiCe BmW BrO"
BIMMER BIMMER BIMMER BIMMER
It is
A BMW with a botched plastic surgery job and thinks she looks hot!
It's random germans who becomes a Vtuber by putting Japanese anime character as her avatar.
Happens to speak Japanese as well maybe
Is that a bmw?!?!
Ladies and gentlemen, this is the video that regular guy becomes an old man, lol.
Keep in mind that same fate awaits you.
And the biggest complaint- Toyota engines are legendary for reliability and durability.
BMW- not so much.
@@quintessenceSL I guess this is the time when I have to say that BMW engineers were mad at Toyota engineers because during Supra development they kept breaking parts during the durability testing and sending those parts back to Germany with field notes that could be resumed as "build better parts or we're out"
@@LouisSubearth and yet, the result is the same.
He does make a lot of valid points though, especially on the paywall features bit. But he did go a bit old man on the supra heritage.
@@urbi3006 I'm not saying he don't. It was just funny to me.
“This is like the valedictorian copying someone else’s work”
I think this is the best analogy possible for explaining the MKV supra.
The A90 is - or at least should be - a lesson. What people can learn from this car, their perceptions and disappointment of this car and the car industry at large are a few things: curbing and checking your expectations, observing more (the state of the industry), not overhyping something and placing it on a pedestal, and the need to actually educate yourself about cars and the automotive industry. I have never seen RCR succumb and battle with such strong cognitive dissonance before.
This is what the modern sports car is like. All modern sports cars are like this car. Everything in this car are common of modern cars. The current 2021 Supra would of been like this (or even worse) regardless of whether Toyota put the nameplate on a 15 year hiatus or not. It is not the fault of the car or the brand that you had such unrealistic expectations, its not the fault of the car or the brand that US JDM Bros (and JDM Bros in other western countries) looked at a with car rose tinted glasses, fetishizing and overhyping it to the point where it gathered a literal cult-like following (many of its followers hardly know anything about cars or the industry either), retroactively putting it atop a pedestal and giving it god-like status. As a little aside, this cult around the vehicle (and a few others), along with JDM Bros in general, also have a habit of ruining the many specimens they vaunt so much, making the drift tax what it is. Your expectations and fetishization and resulting cognitive dissonance and disappointment are yours. Your fault, your problem and your responsibility. The A90 Supra is like Cyberpunk 2077 - except in this case the car is perfectly fine and is actually a decent sports car, and that Toyota did absolutely nothing to market or hype the vehicle to be more than what it actually is.
love to see some monster John Deere tractor just to hear the excellent “right to repair” rant we’re pretty much guaranteed to get, if we got it lol
has RCR ever done a tractor anyway? 🤷♂️
Your ways of expressing sarcasm to convey your displeasure is an art form on its own XD
On side note, yea, I'm disappointed that the latest Supra is pretty much a BMW (Which mean, questionable reliability and possibly pricey maintenance).
That lord of the rings/ Eragon reference 😂😂 I wish the eragon movie was better we need a new one along with the rest of the series !
Yess! The books are fucking amazin. But the movie....was a suuper average 5/10 generic fantasy movie
The Mark 5 Supra is the car you bring home to show your Dad because he had a mark 3 when you were a kid, and you want him to know you've made it. He walks around it, sighs, shakes his head a little, and tells you "don't forget to change the oil in this thing" while he unironically sips on a PBR.
Do people ironically drink PBR?
@@BigWheel. People say that PBR is a hipster beer. What they don't understand is that there are poor people with flannels and beanies that actually enjoy it.
@@BigWheel. In my little corner of Florida, almost exclusively... lol
I think this is legitimately your best review of the year so far.
They really underrate the fuel economy... I get 33-34 highway at 75-80 cruising
The automotive equivalent of throwing away your thanksgiving plate face DOWN
A91 Supra: The automotive equivalent to the owner's pants.
Odd question, but if we've already submitted our car via email, should we resubmit it under the new system or nah?
Also RARE COLOR RARE COLOR but it is a nice color tho.
Drove from Chicago to Detroit just to see this when it was brand new. I wasn’t happy but now after seeing them more and more I love them. Although nothing will replace the MKIV
As a z4m coupe owner i love this car.
Here’s the way I look at it. All the people going “nice bmw” aren’t the market this is aimed at, nor could they afford it new anyway. The people who have $53k to drop on a new sports car aren’t interested in the exact details of who made what. They know they like the Supra name and they know the car does everything they want it to do.
I know I'm only one data point, but... You're talking about a personality trait (the willingness to throw a sarcastic dig at somebody) and a technical interest in cars (caring about who made what parts). Neither of those has anything to do with a person's financial status. I would say it, and I'm mildly rich. Not RICH rich, but definitely enough to go write a check for a $53K car without missing any sleep.
Love this car, if you don’t compare it to the “other Supra” it’s a damn fine car that looks great too.
"string cheese inside its casing..." 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 omfg!
I'm so glad you went in on toyota like this. I'm so sick of hearing the excuses from toyota apologists.
The thing RCR and many other critics of the new Supra forget is the fact that back in the 90's the A80 shared a platform, engine and many of it's parts with a lot of Toyota and Lexus's fleet. Looking at Toyota's current fleet, there's not a single platform worthy of the Supra. And well, Lexus is more about luxury than speed. So what option is left? Make a brand new platform and engine from scratch for just a single low production sports car? Not gonna happen.
That being said, I don't see the point in this car when you can get a Corvette for a similar price.
@@dudocaine Lexus always was more about luxury than speed, that doesn't mean the MK5 couldn't have been based on a Lexus platform, you're aware the j29 shares it's platform with EVERY rwd bmw ? Including the 7 series ?
@@E9X330 You mean CLAR? Yes, it's their modular platform, iirc they even use it for some SUVs. The thing is, Toyota/Lexus does not have anything similar.
There were rumors of Toyota testing the FT-1 (or was it the GR Supra concept?) with the 2UR engine, but they probably scrapped it for price and performance reasons.
@@dudocaine and Toyota doesn't have ANY lexus platform that would do the job ? Are you sure ?😂😂😂😂
@@E9X330 For the 50-60k price tag they insisted the Supra to be? No, they don't.
"Like the valedictorian copying someone else's work." Nicely put. Extremely well put. Toyota, you listening? We want to see what YOU can do. Not BMW, not Subaru.