QSC K12.2 vs. Mackie SRM212 V-Class Comparison Review & Audio Test (Which one should you buy?)
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QSC K12.2 vs. Mackie SRM212 V-Class Comparison Review & Audio Test (Which one should you buy?)
The QSC K12.2 Speaker features a 2000 Watt Class-D amplifier module, Factory Presets and savable/recallable Scenes for commonly-used application, Multi-function digital display for control and selection of loudspeaker functions. Great sound and portability make these great loudspeakers!
The Mackie SRM212 V-Class Speaker features Bluetooth, remote control via the SRM Connect App, a 2000 Watt Class-D amplifier High-Performance, wireless speaker linking and a multi-function digital display for control and Portable Powered Loudspeakers!
Is it worth upgrading from the QSC K12.2’s to the Mackie SRM212’s? How do they sound? Find out!
If you’re a DJ, musician, worship leader or event speaker these are definitely some speakers to check out!
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THINGS COVERED IN THIS VIDEO:
► 0:01 Intro & Notes
► 1:44 QSC K12.2 Mackie SRM212 V-Class Speaker Overview & Build Quality
► 5:49 QSC K12.2 Mackie SRM212 V-Class Speaker Back Panel Mixer Layout & Controls
► 9:02 QSC K12.2 Mackie SRM212 V-Class Speaker Sides and Bottom Angled Mounts
► 11:08 QSC K12.2 Mackie SRM212 V-Class Speaker Power On Test, Pricing, Power
► 13:02 QSC K12.2 Mackie SRM212 V-Class Back Side LCD Menu Settings, Controls, Options
► 19:12 Recommended Speaker Bags & Speaker Scrims
► 21:23 Mackie Bluetooth, Wireless Speaker Linking, SRM Connect App Overview
► 23:39 QSC K12.2 Mackie SRM212 V-Class Speaker Sound Test Using Present Speaker Voices EQ’s
► 29:52 QSC K12.2 Mackie SRM212 V-Class Speaker Final Thoughts and Conclusion
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I’ve been using the QSC K12. 2’s quite a bit. They’re really pretty great speakers. Much more flat in response than the original K12’s. And considerably louder. So far, the only thing out there that’s killing the K 12..2’s are the Yamaha DZR12’s. And the Yamaha’s are only a little bit better.
@@bennettshapiro7711 their are a lot active speakers above k12 lower price and a bit higher price but it’s all about wat u like but any rcf 12 “ kills k12 but the rcf art 732 is about same price and has 3” horn it’s nuts 🔊🤯
@@bennettshapiro7711 Qsc k12 Mackie srm 450 and ev zlx12p are most popular 12” ever made most sold from what I see
To be honest, I like a lot of Mackie models for sound quality, but I’ve always thought that they were visually distracting. I actually think the best looking and sounding portable PA speaker of all time, to my eyes and ears, was the original QSC K10, mostly because they are simplistic in design, but the components are slightly visible behind the grill, giving them a powerful look. And they also sounded better than the new ones to me. They seemed to put out a ton of bass for their size.
Improperly matched levels on the speakers will always make the louder one sound better (or inaccurately louder) to most people in such a demo, unfortunately. Since different speakers from different manufacturers have different sensitivity, some simply require more signal to produce the same SPL. This has nothing to do with their sound quality or maximum output however. That said, while QSC Ks are not my favorite sounding speaker, they are much more likely to be rocking in 5 years and still have proper customer support while the Mackies are more likely to be in a landfill somewhere. I'm happy to see Mackie does seem to be improving quality wise, their past history has not been stellar in terms of customer service.
The levels weren't eve close, and it appeared the microphone was much closer to the Mackie. As a result the QSC sounded puny and the Mackie sounded distorted on most of the samples. The decibel levels between the two speakers are virtually identical and I know the Mackie doesn't sound atrociously distorted when the gain staging is right. Given that both have decent limiters in the DSP, the distortion was probably coming from the recording (into the mic) rather than from any problem with the speaker.
It's all subjective. You don't know that the Mackie's will not stand the test of time. I have had the same Mackie's for 25 years. They still perform and sound great.
@@kenrichmond6906 Older Mackies were manufactured in collaboration with RCF, so had higher quality internals and transducers. Today's Mackies, especially the cheaper Thump stuff is designed to fit a price point, and it shows. That said, their upper line stuff is looking decent. Not sure how customer support is after the sale though...
Both sound grate. Qsc's have recessed mids while Mackie's are the exact oposit with a bit foreword mids. This also helps giving the impression of a much louder sound from the Mackie.
I wanted the QSC but the SRMs were a total of $570 cheaper than the K12.2 per pair and the sound was not different enough to spend more on the K12.2. QSC = $1000 each and Mackie was $737 each. Accounting for tax it is a $570 difference per pair. Now that I have the SRM212 V-class I have no plans to buy the K12.2. Yes, the mids are hot, but in a crossover scenario with subs, hot mids on the tops is a good thing.
My Mackie V-Class 212’s are incredible! So so clean !
Audio Quality is most important, which unfortunately the Makie lacks.
These SRM212’s are awesome! No competition for me plus the QSC firmware issues that result in them turning off mid gig have guaranteed I would not buy a K series speaker again. 👍
Good to know! Thanks for watching! I like the SRM212's as well, including the bluetooth capability!
I had the same issues with the K12.2 and will never buy again either!!
Buying both and putting a QSC left and a mackie right seems like it would work well as a cool stereo feel!
That would be pretty cool!
I'm from Ireland. I always felt Mackie lost it since the old days. I buy gear every year I tried the Srm 550 against the turbo sound back in 2013 the Srm hadn't the clarity or crispness. Hoping this srm v class I ordered will be crisp and clean. I have ordered the 15 and the 12 V Class. I might do a review when i receive them. There's only 2 hz between the 12 and 15 on bass response. But nearly 4 kg in weight difference Good video.
How are you finding them? I'm really torn as to what ro go for as a vocalist using backing tracks. I had the k12.2 before but I am really stuck on wether to go srm12 ?
These early mid 2000s macs were hard to beat then they kinda went down hill but since they got bought out in 17 this new line sounds amazing was gonna go from my ev speakers to these later this year
hi, any updates of your v class? thanks
Had both of this at some point in the small venue for underground music.
Live you actually want the mackie
The way they throw the mid were more upfront and pleasing to me then qsc.
The levels weren't matched so there's no way to conclude which speaker sounds better. I do understand that both were set at 12 oclock but the pots can have a different slope to them so one might be pushing more watts at 12 than the other though the other might be louder at full volume.
Exactly this. I saw another comparison video of these two speakers that did the exact same thing. When comparing audio sources, our ears fool us into thinking the louder one sounds better. The two recordings should have their levels matched in post production for a more fair comparison.
@@DJ-Coma Post production wouldn't have helped in this case because the Mackie recording was distorted in most cases. Best to re-run the test properly with equal sound levels and possibly with a mic that has a 10 or 20 dB pad to avoid the distortion in the recording.
@@ParmerleeTube agreed. The final conclusion is the same though, this test was done poorly.
I appreciate the comparison, but maybe you could use a better quality mic for the comparison? PG mics are cheap and have nowhere near a flat response…a decent condenser would give us a better idea of the actual sound
Listen here I’m a service provider and it must work for me have had all types of speakers including JBL and Mackie quality and reliability is what I need can’t afford to turn back now ↩️ congratulations it’s a great sounding speaker but QSC is my 🏆
Even though I’m a year late, this was a very useful and Comprehensive review but I am not a fan of QSC so I just wanted to know how close they came and their features. Thanks yo so much but I did stop at the sound test as I don’t listen to speakers on line, showroom is always the way to. You never know how the room, and other factors change the way speakers sound. Great review.
WOW ! one of the best comparisons! didn't know the SRM212 Mackie giving QSC a run for the money! they both sound great but Mackie has more features and more even balance.. I think I would go with Mackie... great job on interview!!
QSC'S are phenomenal!
Match them with ks112's and its the best game in town..
And I like that u give your opinion most people don’t
I appreciate that!
The K12.2 has a cold sound not so impresive, the 215 is a warm sounding speaker, a richer sound that people would enjoy from the begining and not just have to get used to thats why I don't by QSC
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Thanks for the video comparison…. That mic didn’t seem like it was Centered … I know Mackie are kinda Boomy … and the QSC give me more clarity when I use it for Live Music … I appreciate the time you took to make this video
Thanks for watching, the mic was centered between the speakers, I tried to give as unbiased testing as possible. I agree that the Mackie speaker was more boomy and the QSC has a bit more clarity.
Mackie seems to have more mins,better clarity on the QSC.How does the DRM sound when compared to this?
This video was extremely helpful! I'm on the fence between upgrading my two Mackie SRM550's & two Mackie SRM650's to either all QSC K12.2's, or going directly to the SRM212's & SRM215's. I use a BBE 882i Sonic Maximizer between my main mixer & my speakers, and the difference definitely shows, but of course is a unique case on my end! I'll have to see if my local Guitar Center has some of the new QSC's & Mackie lines to test. Thanks again for the helpful info & video!!
What did you end up going with? My band is having the exact debate right now.
@@Jedhenrymusic I ended up going the Mackie V-Class route! I'm a DJ so they're loud enough and have enough thump to get my events moving (and have some nice ambience for Weddings too!). I really like the DSP options that you can dial in digitally on the Mackies (which really change the tone and frequency of the speaker) such as "indoor"/"outdoor" etc. They are really solid speakers! (I'm still shopping around for subwoofers, I'll probably end up getting a big newer QSC 18" at some point, they've just always made great subs!). I hope that helps, let me know if you have any questions!
Great job on the video. Thank you for taking the time to share your expertise. Very much appreciated !
Those mackies can't be beat. Just sound so full and alive
very good review - especially liked your summary including your choice and why it would be a good choice.
For what I do, mostly corporate ballroom events, the K12s don't need low end at all. Clarity is key. I run a separate mix from console to sub for low end. Only send music and video to sub mix. QSC k12.2 perfect for crisp & clean vocals.
Awesome!
The volume difference between the two made it really impossible to do a fair comparison even using headphones.
Compared to QSC you will have to EQ the Mackie down 1 or 2 DB so they wouldn't be screeming. But over all I think they some nice tops.
SRM for sure
Another video 🙌🏾keep them coming brother this is a good comparison
Thanks so much! Glad this video was helpful!
The level matching is dubious.
Makie with sub amazing 👏😍❤
Wondering about all out loudness for an outside event..Would the Mackie come out on top..🤔. Because an actual 3db difference is substantial
Big difference in term of loudness. Something doesn’t sound right. It’s either the set up, level, gain or your QSC unit.
Its look the qsc is for singer very bright the makie is more for partys more open .
I wish Mackie would have included a fan and a power locking jack
I think the locking ac cable plugs on my singers k12 speakers became a liability one night when some drunk person fell on the cord and instead of coming out of the speaker, it took the speaker down with it.
Oh wow, that really sucks. Sorry to hear that.
Looks like Mackie sounds a lot better.
qsc all the way
Thanks for commenting!
The Dynamic mic was pointing towards the Mackie as well as an extra condenser mic on the side. Seems fairly biased in my opinion.
No mixing board selection in my local Guitar Center store.
I have Qsc speakers , I’ve used Mackie speakers & subs b4….Mackie isn’t in the same class as Qsc or Jbl
I think you should level match a little better, PINK noise, A or C weighted @ default dsp. try to level match at 80dB 3 meters away with an omni mic. oh yeah, reset those eq settings that ere dialed in the SRM! Pure defaults. Try that for us thx
Mackie ...hands down...better sound
Good comparison. !
Thanks! Thanks for watching!
The qsc company needs to go to jail for lying about the specs of that k12.2 speaker. The og k12 is so much louder then the later model its not even funny.
Everybody is returning the k12.2 and going back to their k12 old version
@@arthuraslibekyan exactly
You should include the Yamaha drx12!’
Been waiting for this comparison
Glad to hear it! Thanks for watching!
Thank you
Your mic is not pointing on between the two speakers
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I have 2 QSC K2 K10.2's! I been using them for a few year's now and i legit rather get the mackie 15's instead. I thought QSC was better than Mackie but i think Mackie is alot better with the bass and the mid and treble and overall/overal sound in these 2 way speakers. These QSC 2 way top speaker's, these legit can't even handle dubstep but these can still handle EDM and other genres but just, these QSKC K2's can't handle dubstep! I thought QSC was better for EDM but i guess not... Now people or someone is gonna reply on my comment and possibly give me hateful or rude replies........
The qsc gear is way cleaner sounding. Mackie always sounded a little muddy to me no matter what speaker model. I love qsc over any other speaker in its class because the brand sounds clear but not harsh. I have qsc hpr 153f speakers that are 16 years old and still sound better than the jbl, ev, mackie, or turbo sounds of today.
THESE MACKIES ARE GREAT SPEAKERS. THERE IS ANOTHER TEST COMPARISON OF THESE TWO, THE MACKIES SOUNDED BETTER 100% THAN THE QSC. I OWN A PAIR OF K10.2 AND I LOVE THEM.
FOR THOSE THAT THINK QSC SOUND BETTER THAN THESE MACKIES, I URGE THEM TO FIND ANOTHER TEST OF THESE TWO GIANTS . YOU WILL BE AMAZED AND SURPRISE OF THE SOUND DIFFERENCE. JUST SAYING.... OH ! BTW, I OWN A PAIR OF QSC K10.2. AND BEFORE I PURCHASED THEM I DID A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THAT PARTICULAR SIZE. I WAS SOLD BY QSC, AND THAT'S THE REASON I OWN A PAIR. MUSIC WISE ? ALL GENRES, BUT MOST; DANCE MUSIC, HOUSE, TECH HOUSE, NU DISCO AND LATIN MUSIC. THANKS FOR THE VIDEO.
I have 2 QSC K2 K10.2's! I been using them for a few year's now and i legit rather get the mackie 15's instead. I thought QSC was better than Mackie but i think Mackie is alot better with the bass and the mid and treble and overall/overal sound in these 2 way speakers
awesome review congrats
I just bout the 15 v over the k12.2 . They are soooo clean and the Bluetooth is great!
Thank You so much for the video! I'm in the market for a PA for my band doing good size live shows the SMR 212 i believe is my choice. I have demo the QSC and I will say from the comparison I definitely hear a difference I like the sonic ranges in the Mackie a bit more I'm sold...
Glad I could help!
GOOD CHOICE.
Which one had the better bass?
I personally tought the Mackie SRM212 had better bass.
if i bluetooth my laptop to speakers how can i use a wireless mic to dj. Sounds like im if djing imma have to use xrl and mixer to use my mics
Can those lights be turned off on the front of the Mackie speakers?
Yes, there's a setting in the digital menu on the back of the speaker.
Where’s the limit light on these things?
Which is louder ?
THE K.2 SOUND CLEANER. THE MACKIE MIDS ARE A BE MUCH. BUT THEY ARE LOUDER. I GO FOR SOUND NOT POWER.
QSC Gang :)) Me too!
From listening to the video the SRM sounds noticeably louder. Is it that much louder and how is the sound quality??
Thanks for watching! It seemed that the SRM might have been a bit louder. I had gains on both brands of speakers at 12 'o clock position and both speakers performed loud. As I comment in my video, the SRMs seemed to have more full sound than the QSCs so that may also make them seem louder. If the SRMs were actually louder it wasn't that much of a difference.
Look where the mic is pointing... hmmm
@@richcelio2699 it’s not just the mic, the mackie is louder at 0dB/ 12 o clock. That being said, the actual sound levels need to be matched for us to give a fair comparison.
Mackie has the better tops but qsc definitely has the better subs.
The QSC subs ARE SO GREAT!
I have the srm 215 a for 2 weck. And i can tell you the speaker is a joke,speaker sound loud. Somenthing like dxr,but the quality is not there,the app is a boulshit .is dont deserve the name SRM..
Hello, we're sorry to hear about this. Have you installed the latest firmware updates? Please contact support@mackie.com so we can learn more about your experience.
does it matter if you update firmware. are u blutoothing or cabling in what desk etc if you dont use good mixers that can effect the sound. I've ordered a 15 and a 12 time will tell.
@@Onemanshow1974 you git it what you rhink!
@@cisnerosepy77 I didnt like the Srm v class lacks quality too mucg gimmicks plactic on ack of mine was viberating. bass wasnt great nothing like rcf 15 i has srm 15 v class and 12. The sound was nice to sing through cood clarity. The plastic box should have ceen wood if it was flagship
@@Onemanshow1974 you don't think firmware will help 🧐
$799 for k12.2?? Not anywhere I can find. 🤔
To be honest I have been eying Mackie lately with their SRM and DRM series, would be incredible to get my hands on them. How does the clarity and headroom compare vs the QSC?
Thanks for watching! The SRMs are not quite as crisp of sound as the K12.2s, but its close. The SRMs have more of a full range of sound than the K12.2s in my opinion. They hold up when I was pushing the sound level hard.
SRM defintely sounds like a more cheap and louder speaker.
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The mic is pointing at the Mackie?????? No wonder it's louder.
Hi Rich, at 24:30 in the video I show that the microphone is placed on a mic stand in between both speakers I'm testing and its pointing forward at BOTH speakers, not just one speaker in particular.
@@TinkerForward bull shit
QSC
To be fair, this video is misleading. Too many variables were not addressed and there was no control. If these had been zeroed out, with third party parameters, I believe your results would seriously differ.
QSC has much better quality sound , Not as loud but better sound for sure cleaner and tighter …
I did seem to hear what I felt was a "crisper" sound from the QSCs, IMO.
@@TinkerForward I Dj and I have used and heard both … I prefer QSC even do Electro Voice is also a good choice good quality and cheaper …
Mackie was way to muddy QSC better sound
Mackie are very muddy hate them
Wrong mike for this job, and not pointing evenly between the speakers.
This comparison lacks the ONE factor that matters above all else for a working professional DJ: Reliability, backed with a warrantee. The QSC boasts an unheard of 6 year warrantee. Mackie's is nowhere to be found. The bottom line is both these products will sound great out the box at your gig. But when the Mackie fails a year in (their quality tanked when they moved production overseas) you'll look like a fool. My QSCs have never, ever, failed me. Not once. As long as they keep the build quality robust, and back it up with that warrantee, I'll keep coming back.
The bluetooth does look nice tho
The Mackie srm have a 6 years warranty
They both lack a battery..
They both garbage for beginners I would recommend JBL and as you step up in the game go with rcf ,fbt , db technologies these will last forever
I wish RCF made a 2 input powered speaker. I need a really great floor monitor for my guitar and mic. Each need separate input and I'm currently using an ELX12. I feel like it's either a K12.2 or the RCF with the added cost of a mixer.
@@FastRedPonyCar All I can say is go with rcf you won’t be disappointed
@@GKSounds1 Got an HD32 A MK4 on the way!
@@FastRedPonyCar great …and you would love them I have ttl6a pair …and pair of TTW4a monsters and crispy clear
@@GKSounds1 Damn those TT's are big money and look like overkill for my needs. I got the HD32A as sort of a (hopefully) end game stage monitor for guitar and vocals. I tested it out yesterday and it's in a totally different league of quality of sound, clarity, volume output, etc vs my EV but at 4x the price, I expected it.
Considering how expensive the QSC are (£200 more than the Mackie per unit) they sound very drab & mundane compared to the Mackie that's for sure 🙄 just wondering if Mackie still employ the RCF main drivers in their SRM series like they did with the LEGENDARY!! 450's? 🤔🤔
I have qsc I’m kinda want to hear in person the Mackie and love that the Mackie has Bluetooth way to go @mackietv
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