I had a seventy four model for twenty years. Ran it professionally. Sold it when things got slow and I miss it every day. It was super reliable and easy to maintain and did the job well
One of my cousins bought this one new in '73. He hired out to the city street department, so the majority of its life, it sat and idled while doing light digging for water or sewer repairs. Then he'd install sewer systems outside the city limits too so it'd get some workout too. I've only had it about 10 years or so.
@@tractorman4461 That's a great machine probably one of the best and most reliable they ever built. I know some people talk about the buttermilk drive transmission but I had great luck with mine. No issues ever. I was extremely fastidious about my maintenance and that machine never let me down once. I miss it often. Hoping one day to get an E.
The Case started as if it run yesterday, great video 44, thanks for sharing with us, I can't get enough of old tractors, everyone have a favorite but a tractor enthusiast watch and appreciate anyone
Oh yes, there's a number of digging jobs as well as a few trees to remove and load as logs onto the trailer. Lots of chances to get it on video Martin.
Well, I've been trying to get all the work done for my whole life and I've come to realize there ain't no way I'm a gonna get to finish it all. LOL So yeah, here's another one for the 'maintenance' line. Thanks Jeff for the visit !!
Another successful mission Wendell. Every Case that I have ever been around have been easy starters. For that tractor to have sat outside for over 2 years and it fired up that easily is pretty amazing. Good to see her brought back to life. Full watch with a thumbs up Wendell. See you for the next one.
Its been a good one Gary. I think my cousin had a new torque converter installed by the dealer just before I bought it from him. I've had it now for a number of years. I've left it down at the daughters house because there is still a bit of digging to do down there. I need to remove a few trees on her lot and another down there so it was time to get it loosened back up and ready to load a few logs !!
Agreed....btw, I just uploaded a video on firing it up just today. We had high winds and rain a couple weeks ago and the cover blew off the smoke pipe. I saw it yesterday while visiting the daughter, so I figured I BETTER make sure i get the moisture out of the cylinders today !! I've had it at my youngest daughters house for about five years.
Well I tell ya what John, for some reason back then kids would dump sugar in the fuel tanks or in the oil fill and take rocks and break out the guages and lights. That's why my cousin bought all these lockable covers as an option. I actually have a NOS set of lockable engine side panels that have never been installed on this one. He said it was just too hard to install them too.
Thanks for explaining how to properly hook up the connections to the battery. There are so many videos out there where they throw both connections on and then start tightening. I've tried explaining that to some of them but I guess they'll have to find out the hard way. Of course if they cause a spark and the battery blows up on them they may not have to worry about trying again. That old Case sure started quick!!! Wish some of the tractors I use often would start that easy! 👍👍👍
That old gal usually fires right up just like that every time, hot or cold. But since I've had it this is the first time its sat outside that long of a time without being started and run. I think most people think Oh, its only DC voltage, it won't shock me....failing to realize the size of the BOOM and the quantity of the sparks that come off a direct short by a piece of shiny metal held in their hand. LOL The smart ones will learn, the other ones will just wonder what happened and do it again next week. LOL
Great !! Btw , I have a whole playlist on a ton of work on a Farmall H. 12v conversion. Splitting in half. New I put bearings and seals. Power washing the inside of the granny. Etc. thanks fir stopping by Bobby !!
Something really cool when you drag one out of its 'slumber' isn't it !!? We have done quite a few of them setting for a decade, two or even more over the years. But they ALL take a lot of work and dedication, don't they Mark. My Much Older Brother worked on and off over a year on the old MH Challenger before firing it up after a 44 year rest !! He did all the work and I just stopped by to help him ice the cake...so to speak. LOL.
I ran Case 580,s for several years working for a railroad contractor. There good machines and nimble & fast. When I decided to buy a backhoe I wanted and bought a John Deere. Because the Case foot swing is hard on my knees. And I wanted wobble stick controls. And Also the hoses on the JD are SAE pipe thread. You dont have to buy the more expensive hoses with the factory case ends
I commented earlier, but it got deleted Randall. Dang. I'd said that I bolted angle irons to the foot pedals to change the angles of my ankles while pressing the controls. That made a big difference. I didn't know the JD were SAE pipe thread. That's cool, the JIC and ORB fittings ain't cheap !! I've got a 90* swivel on the hoe leaking right now. So that's gonna be a good one.
I can't imagine you going anywhere without every thing you need. But then I guess you can do anything without having nothing with you. WHEN YOU'RE GOOD YOU'RE GREAT.
Oh, believe me Tom....it happens a LOT that I forget this thing or that thing. Used to be I had a company truck. For 35 years or more actually. Big old one ton ten or twelve foot dually service bodies. I carried everything but the kitchen sink with me everywhere I went. Thanks for the super cool comment my friend !!
She purrrrrrrrs like a kitten! A nice close to this Sunday eve! Kind Thanks my. 44Friend Wendell! My Best to all at the 44Ranch and a special squeeze for the Missus please! DaveyJO
Signed, sealed and delivered DaveyJO !! She even gave me a smile in return. LOL. Hope all is well in the Pennsylvania Plantation....take care my friend !!
I ran a 580M in the early 2000’s at a town water department where I learned how to use a 4 stick. Really enjoyed it and then moving on to other units- I found the John Deere controls easier than the Cat controls.
I'm not sure I could use the fancy new controls. I think some of the new units can be flipped around control wise to control like their 'normal' or the Cat style. A matter of flipping a switch and probably control solonoids change flow of fluid to operate like their competitors controls. Bear in mind Peewee, I'm just kinda guessing. My old 4500 Ford is a 4 stick hoe.
"unauthorized use of a screwdriver", that is a funny one! I could barely hear the starter cranking... That impresses me every time! My new Volvo XC90 needs more cranking than that... even if it ran 5 minutes before! Lol! I totally agree with this one: "Do what you can to get it in operation THEN with it running determine what you need to do to get it to the level of operation at which you are comfortable". That is the best way to prevent wasting money on a machine that is not worth it. Thanks!
Well Joe, I don't think it spun more than once or twice. When I was trying from the seat all you could hear was the solonoid clicking. You'd be surprised how many new owners buy a ton of stuff and change it all BEFORE they even try to get a machine running with the original stuff. So many variables are then added to the situation.
A cousin bought it new in '73 then somewhere in the late 80's his doctor made him give up operating equipment due to health reasons. So he kept it tarped and started it up 2, 3 times a year until I bought it from him about 20 years later. So yeah, it's in pretty good shape. I've got all the NOS security panels he never installed. Totally encloses the engine from vandals.
You're right about THAT !! Not so lucky on other ones huh... LOL. I've been on a pick and shovel and I've also been on the old hoe....I'll take the rusty old hoe any day too !!
Thank YOU for watching. I think soon after this video I replaced the solenoid. No more jumping with a screwdriver !! The local Big A auto parts store had one in stock too. That was a surprise.
Right on man!! Rick and I were just trying to change the rotted tires on my old modle S ... didn't go so well as it needs a whole new rear end now lmao thankfully I just so happened to have a spare lmao I think rick is gonna get a video together whenever we get it tore apart 😂 gotta love a wrench in the spokes eh?
LOL... I've been there and done that many times Andrew !! I just blew a 13.6-38 on an old Massey Harris 30 last year. I happened to have a NOS Harvest King tire back in the shed to put on. I did a video, but never got it to the editing line yet. I'll be watching for the video with you and Rick !!
Isn't that something? First click and away, I think you'll make this into a workable 'treasure' again. So far no engine smoke either, typical Case engine, ( in my opinion and limited experience ) I did notice you connecting the Positive cable first, before the Ground,.. smart move,... brought back memory of a guy who did NOT do this, and his metal strapped wrist watch completed the circuit for him, with extremely painful results.
People do not realize the volatility of the explosion when a battery with 1000 CCA is directly shorted to ground with an end wrench !! And yes, in a bad situation the wrench can weld itself to the machine frame....just THAT fast too. I've not done it, but I have been guilty of a little arcing and sparking on a time or two. Hahahaha.... I bet that dude had a bit of a burn around his wrist too. LOL
@@tractorman4461 Burn that required skin grafting, the strap turn red hot in an instant, I ( unfortunately ) saw the smoke too. It's something I'll not forget soon.
Yes Rick, and put me on a joystick and you better run away from the machine....LOL My son is one of the lucky ones, he gets to use my old junk and also the brand new Cat excavators, back hoes, dozers and high lifts that his boss provides.
Yeah, the old three stick Case's and 4 stick Fords are a bit different than the new ones for sure. I've got to dig a small footing in a month or so. That might be a good time for a simple video. But essentially, the swing is accomplished by two foot pedals, the outriggers are the two small levers on the extreme left and right. That leaves the three for the boom, dipper and bucket in the middle. Top make it worse, the Fords and Cases three main levers do not track each other either. LOL
@Tractorman44 is there a way to get a thumb for the bucket? Much more utility My dad passed and left us a sitting 580c and I was considering the options for the farm. Thanks
Yes, I believe you should be able to find various styles of thumbs for the 580. I would prefer one with its own hydraulic control valve and not the 'fixed' style that bolt or weld on in position then rely on the curl of the bucket to capture against it. I bet if you google 'thumb for case 580 backhoe' you will find something interesting. Good luck. There's nothing like having an old hoe for the property !!
I hope I didn't give that impression....This one is a Case 188D identical to the engine in the 430 ag tractor. I have one of those torn down now sitting on the engine stand.
@@EverydayProjects Yessir....agreed !! I use Seafoam to shut down small engines for the winter. Run'em dry and add a good bit of Seafoam with only a dash of gas. Then run them bone dry and let them sit until next year.
I think that was their old one..the 530. He bought this one new in '73. It's just an updated 530 with rollover protection and bigger motor. Other than that, it operates exactly the same. I think the seat sits higher though than on the 530... Hey man...thanks for watching and commenting !!
Dude....just lower the volume. LOL. It's pretty simple that way. Another option is the mute button. On my laptop, its the F10, yours may differ.... I talk a lot on most all my videos, so I wouldn't suggest wasting your time watching any of my other roughly 400 videos.
I had a seventy four model for twenty years. Ran it professionally. Sold it when things got slow and I miss it every day. It was super reliable and easy to maintain and did the job well
One of my cousins bought this one new in '73. He hired out to the city street department, so the majority of its life, it sat and idled while doing light digging for water or sewer repairs. Then he'd install sewer systems outside the city limits too so it'd get some workout too. I've only had it about 10 years or so.
@@tractorman4461 That's a great machine probably one of the best and most reliable they ever built. I know some people talk about the buttermilk drive transmission but I had great luck with mine. No issues ever. I was extremely fastidious about my maintenance and that machine never let me down once. I miss it often. Hoping one day to get an E.
I, just bought a 1966, Ck 530 case Backhoe 180 Diesel a great Backhoe very helpful on the farm.😊
The 530 was the older brother of the 580. I spent a lot of time on a 530 back in '75. Both very good tractors and very useful on the farm.
First Backhoe I ever ran was an old 530 CK gas machine in 1973 ran it for a couple of years until we upgraded to a 580 CK ran equipment until 2016
The Case started as if it run yesterday, great video 44, thanks for sharing with us, I can't get enough of old tractors, everyone have a favorite but a tractor enthusiast watch and appreciate anyone
Hahahaha....yes, I think I like them ALL !! I'm a bit partial to 'RED' ones though.
Hi Wendell! Glad you got her running again! Now go do some interesting project with it ( and make a video too!). LOL Thanks for sharing!
Oh yes, there's a number of digging jobs as well as a few trees to remove and load as logs onto the trailer. Lots of chances to get it on video Martin.
Good to see you working on another project tractor already!
Well, I've been trying to get all the work done for my whole life and I've come to realize there ain't no way I'm a gonna get to finish it all. LOL So yeah, here's another one for the 'maintenance' line. Thanks Jeff for the visit !!
Cool old backhoe.
Everybody needs one or two don't they Wild Bill....LOL Thanks buddy for stopping in today.
Another successful mission Wendell. Every Case that I have ever been around have been easy starters. For that tractor to have sat outside for over 2 years and it fired up that easily is pretty amazing. Good to see her brought back to life.
Full watch with a thumbs up Wendell. See you for the next one.
Its been a good one Gary. I think my cousin had a new torque converter installed by the dealer just before I bought it from him. I've had it now for a number of years. I've left it down at the daughters house because there is still a bit of digging to do down there. I need to remove a few trees on her lot and another down there so it was time to get it loosened back up and ready to load a few logs !!
Great machines they run forever..
Agreed....btw, I just uploaded a video on firing it up just today. We had high winds and rain a couple weeks ago and the cover blew off the smoke pipe. I saw it yesterday while visiting the daughter, so I figured I BETTER make sure i get the moisture out of the cylinders today !! I've had it at my youngest daughters house for about five years.
Hello! Those locks are a cool feature! They were a great machine in their day. Thanks for sharing
Well I tell ya what John, for some reason back then kids would dump sugar in the fuel tanks or in the oil fill and take rocks and break out the guages and lights. That's why my cousin bought all these lockable covers as an option. I actually have a NOS set of lockable engine side panels that have never been installed on this one. He said it was just too hard to install them too.
I have the same 580ck with full cab ..great rig
These old Case tractors are one heck of a rig. Lots of breakout force with the hoe and loader.
Thanks for explaining how to properly hook up the connections to the battery. There are so many videos out there where they throw both connections on and then start tightening. I've tried explaining that to some of them but I guess they'll have to find out the hard way. Of course if they cause a spark and the battery blows up on them they may not have to worry about trying again. That old Case sure started quick!!! Wish some of the tractors I use often would start that easy! 👍👍👍
That old gal usually fires right up just like that every time, hot or cold. But since I've had it this is the first time its sat outside that long of a time without being started and run. I think most people think Oh, its only DC voltage, it won't shock me....failing to realize the size of the BOOM and the quantity of the sparks that come off a direct short by a piece of shiny metal held in their hand. LOL The smart ones will learn, the other ones will just wonder what happened and do it again next week. LOL
I just found your channel yesterday when I bought my farmall h. I absolutely love your videos. Very informative. Please keep doing what you are doing.
Great !! Btw , I have a whole playlist on a ton of work on a Farmall H. 12v conversion. Splitting in half. New I put bearings and seals. Power washing the inside of the granny. Etc. thanks fir stopping by Bobby !!
@@tractorman4461 I saw your farmall playlist. I’ve watched it all the way through very informative
Sounds good.We are going to be doing the same but with a Massey 70 it's been sleeping for about 7 years we think.
Something really cool when you drag one out of its 'slumber' isn't it !!? We have done quite a few of them setting for a decade, two or even more over the years. But they ALL take a lot of work and dedication, don't they Mark. My Much Older Brother worked on and off over a year on the old MH Challenger before firing it up after a 44 year rest !! He did all the work and I just stopped by to help him ice the cake...so to speak. LOL.
Man she fired right up when you jumped the solenoid. Motor sounds strong 💪 good ole Case Equipment.
She didn't stand a chance did she...??!! LOL. I wasn't happy getting wet the first day though.
I ran Case 580,s for several years working for a railroad contractor. There good machines and nimble & fast. When I decided to buy a backhoe I wanted and bought a John Deere. Because the Case foot swing is hard on my knees. And I wanted wobble stick controls. And Also the hoses on the JD are SAE pipe thread. You dont have to buy the more expensive hoses with the factory case ends
I commented earlier, but it got deleted Randall. Dang. I'd said that I bolted angle irons to the foot pedals to change the angles of my ankles while pressing the controls. That made a big difference. I didn't know the JD were SAE pipe thread. That's cool, the JIC and ORB fittings ain't cheap !! I've got a 90* swivel on the hoe leaking right now. So that's gonna be a good one.
I can't imagine you going anywhere without every thing you need.
But then I guess you can do anything without having nothing with you.
WHEN YOU'RE GOOD YOU'RE GREAT.
Oh, believe me Tom....it happens a LOT that I forget this thing or that thing. Used to be I had a company truck. For 35 years or more actually. Big old one ton ten or twelve foot dually service bodies. I carried everything but the kitchen sink with me everywhere I went. Thanks for the super cool comment my friend !!
She purrrrrrrrs like a kitten! A nice close to this Sunday eve! Kind Thanks my. 44Friend Wendell! My Best to all at the 44Ranch and a special squeeze for the Missus please! DaveyJO
Signed, sealed and delivered DaveyJO !! She even gave me a smile in return. LOL. Hope all is well in the Pennsylvania Plantation....take care my friend !!
I ran a 580M in the early 2000’s at a town water department where I learned how to use a 4 stick. Really enjoyed it and then moving on to other units- I found the John Deere controls easier than the Cat controls.
I'm not sure I could use the fancy new controls. I think some of the new units can be flipped around control wise to control like their 'normal' or the Cat style. A matter of flipping a switch and probably control solonoids change flow of fluid to operate like their competitors controls. Bear in mind Peewee, I'm just kinda guessing. My old 4500 Ford is a 4 stick hoe.
Is this tractor a 3 stick like the 580
"unauthorized use of a screwdriver", that is a funny one! I could barely hear the starter cranking... That impresses me every time! My new Volvo XC90 needs more cranking than that... even if it ran 5 minutes before! Lol!
I totally agree with this one: "Do what you can to get it in operation THEN with it running determine what you need to do to get it to the level of operation at which you are comfortable". That is the best way to prevent wasting money on a machine that is not worth it. Thanks!
Well Joe, I don't think it spun more than once or twice. When I was trying from the seat all you could hear was the solonoid clicking. You'd be surprised how many new owners buy a ton of stuff and change it all BEFORE they even try to get a machine running with the original stuff. So many variables are then added to the situation.
Good shape for 1973
A cousin bought it new in '73 then somewhere in the late 80's his doctor made him give up operating equipment due to health reasons. So he kept it tarped and started it up 2, 3 times a year until I bought it from him about 20 years later. So yeah, it's in pretty good shape. I've got all the NOS security panels he never installed. Totally encloses the engine from vandals.
Good solid old tractor, be a good candidate for restoration.
Yes, this was a one owner tractor purchased by a cousin in 1973. I've had it for about 8 or 9 years now. It is a really good strong running machine.
At least there were no hornets nests under that tarp! I could use an old backhoe like that. Sure beats a pick and shovel.
You're right about THAT !! Not so lucky on other ones huh... LOL. I've been on a pick and shovel and I've also been on the old hoe....I'll take the rusty old hoe any day too !!
@@tractorman4461 LOL!
Another good, successful start video. Thanks.
I got a little aggravated when I got all wet from the little rainstorm though. LOL.
Run them and they run forever. Leave it sit and it grows a problem for every season it sits.
😁😎
No words spoken have held more truth I believe. LOL I'd much rather them be used ! Fuel is ALWAYS cheaper than repair parts....
Started up great and sounds good. Oh you can send it my way. : ) All my very best.
Well darn...I called FedEx and they said they didn't have a big enough box... You are out of luck Bobby !! LOL
thank, you for you're video.🙏
Thank YOU for watching. I think soon after this video I replaced the solenoid. No more jumping with a screwdriver !! The local Big A auto parts store had one in stock too. That was a surprise.
Right on man!! Rick and I were just trying to change the rotted tires on my old modle S ... didn't go so well as it needs a whole new rear end now lmao thankfully I just so happened to have a spare lmao I think rick is gonna get a video together whenever we get it tore apart 😂 gotta love a wrench in the spokes eh?
LOL... I've been there and done that many times Andrew !! I just blew a 13.6-38 on an old Massey Harris 30 last year. I happened to have a NOS Harvest King tire back in the shed to put on. I did a video, but never got it to the editing line yet. I'll be watching for the video with you and Rick !!
hi there looks like a 188 in that old beast . am i close . i ave a old tract case here . sounds pretty good . got some work for it ? john
You got it !! It's the 188. Roughly 50 hp, no turbo. I don't have any work that pays....Of course. LOL
Isn't that something? First click and away, I think you'll make this into a workable 'treasure' again. So far no engine smoke either, typical Case engine, ( in my opinion and limited experience )
I did notice you connecting the Positive cable first, before the Ground,.. smart move,... brought back memory of a guy who did NOT do this,
and his metal strapped wrist watch completed the circuit for him, with extremely painful results.
People do not realize the volatility of the explosion when a battery with 1000 CCA is directly shorted to ground with an end wrench !! And yes, in a bad situation the wrench can weld itself to the machine frame....just THAT fast too. I've not done it, but I have been guilty of a little arcing and sparking on a time or two. Hahahaha.... I bet that dude had a bit of a burn around his wrist too. LOL
@@tractorman4461 Burn that required skin grafting, the strap turn red hot in an instant, I ( unfortunately ) saw the smoke too. It's something I'll not forget soon.
Kids these days couldn't even begin to operate that backhoe, no joystick.
Yes Rick, and put me on a joystick and you better run away from the machine....LOL My son is one of the lucky ones, he gets to use my old junk and also the brand new Cat excavators, back hoes, dozers and high lifts that his boss provides.
Make us a video to show how to use the multi- stick 580 class. That would be nice for those who have no idea. Houston, Texas. 😊
Yeah, the old three stick Case's and 4 stick Fords are a bit different than the new ones for sure. I've got to dig a small footing in a month or so. That might be a good time for a simple video. But essentially, the swing is accomplished by two foot pedals, the outriggers are the two small levers on the extreme left and right. That leaves the three for the boom, dipper and bucket in the middle. Top make it worse, the Fords and Cases three main levers do not track each other either. LOL
@@tractorman4461 I'm going to be looking forward for that video, give me a shout when you do. Passing you onward so people can see and learn.
I loved the triple sticks, fast and makes it easier to maneuverability
Just wondering what the missus has to say when you bring that beast home. Thxs for the vids!
Oh she's just gonna be happy that I come home...whether or not an old tractor comes with me. LOL Yeah David, that's my story and I'm sticking to it !!
@Tractorman44 is there a way to get a thumb for the bucket?
Much more utility
My dad passed and left us a sitting 580c and I was considering the options for the farm.
Thanks
Yes, I believe you should be able to find various styles of thumbs for the 580. I would prefer one with its own hydraulic control valve and not the 'fixed' style that bolt or weld on in position then rely on the curl of the bucket to capture against it. I bet if you google 'thumb for case 580 backhoe' you will find something interesting. Good luck. There's nothing like having an old hoe for the property !!
Great info. When did Case backhoes change from a Case engine to Cummins?
I hope I didn't give that impression....This one is a Case 188D identical to the engine in the 430 ag tractor. I have one of those torn down now sitting on the engine stand.
Two years sitting and it fired right up. Must have had some diesel fuel conditioner in the fuel
Yes, I run a product called Pri-D in diesel engines and Pri-G in my gasoline engines. All sizes. From chainsaws and lawnmowers on up.
@@tractorman4461 Always good to keep a conditioner like that in the fuel. Seafoam works too.
@@EverydayProjects Yessir....agreed !! I use Seafoam to shut down small engines for the winter. Run'em dry and add a good bit of Seafoam with only a dash of gas. Then run them bone dry and let them sit until next year.
I probably ran that tractor/backhoe in 1966 or 1967.
I think that was their old one..the 530. He bought this one new in '73. It's just an updated 530 with rollover protection and bigger motor. Other than that, it operates exactly the same. I think the seat sits higher though than on the 530... Hey man...thanks for watching and commenting !!
Stop talking
Dude....just lower the volume. LOL. It's pretty simple that way. Another option is the mute button. On my laptop, its the F10, yours may differ.... I talk a lot on most all my videos, so I wouldn't suggest wasting your time watching any of my other roughly 400 videos.