Piers Morgan (Baby Reindeer Discussion) On Lorraine [14.05.2024]

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  • @zombiepirate23
    @zombiepirate23 25 днів тому +42

    Even if it is a true story Richard said he is hiding her identity and as long Richard or Netflix doesn't say that yes it is her then THEY NEVER accused her of this. The Internet made an assumption and she fed into it and she said she was the real Martha. But Richard and Netflix need to not give into this assumption. Fiona taddled on herself

    • @ulyaka4781
      @ulyaka4781 23 дні тому +3

      No, they used her actual posts from facebook. So they identified her. Because those posts were unique to her.

    • @MrZanderLaw
      @MrZanderLaw 22 дні тому +2

      @@ulyaka4781Then she’s Obviously Guilty of Sending everything that she did!!
      Also at the end of each episode, It says That some parts may be Dramatised So it kinda Contradicts the ‘This is a true story’ at the beginning!

    • @ulyaka4781
      @ulyaka4781 22 дні тому +1

      @@MrZanderLaw just because she posted those posts that were identified , does not mean she posted thousands of emails. They are separate.

    • @AnahKelly
      @AnahKelly 19 днів тому

      period.

  • @unasperanza9803
    @unasperanza9803 24 дні тому +17

    Gadd has said that IRL Martha was no put on trial and convicted that was his closure through fiction. SHe is grasping onto that as its the only really untrue thing there.

    • @meggo329
      @meggo329 23 дні тому +2

      Also provided us the audience with closure after that wild ride.

    • @ulyaka4781
      @ulyaka4781 22 дні тому

      That is the only thing she can definitely prove that he lied. How can she prove that she did not do the things that nobody was a witness to and he never reported. If she did not assault him sexually it is awful to be accused of it. Specifically.

  • @Sdoh007
    @Sdoh007 27 днів тому +18

    'A nice haircut and a car!' 😂😂

  • @user-yu7ek3hx2q
    @user-yu7ek3hx2q 25 днів тому +13

    The part at the start saying true story was from the characters point of view, Netflix states at the end ‘based on a true story’

  • @timbobshe
    @timbobshe 21 день тому +14

    Hilarity is that:
    1. People see the drama as facts
    2. People don’t realise what creative license is
    3. She personally has inserted herself into this, if she hadn’t watched/had no involvement in the situation why has she inserted herself into all this? “That’s not me…” yet she has come forward…
    4. Does she look like the actress Martha though???? I wouldn’t have put 2+2 together if I spoke to her, only comparison is weight and Scottish accent…
    5. Baby Reindeer is a stunning piece of television. The balanced view of stalking and Gadd displaying his own flaws through Donny is amazing.
    6. Fuck piers Morgan, however sometimes he bosses it (during Covid he was a beast!)
    7…IT DOES SAY BASED ON A TRUE STORY! The intro is from the perspective of the main character! If people don’t realise this ffs 🤦
    8. NO ACCUSATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE, ITS A DRAMA FFS! Gadd hasn’t come out to confirm, nor will he. The characters name is Martha, not Fiona, and even if it was Fiona, it is STILL a DRAMA. Does no one realise the difference between a DRAMA and a DOCUMENTARY!?!
    People are way overthinking this. In the end of the day Gadd and Netflix have done nothing wrong. If it was a documentary lol that would be a different story, and they would be monsters for doing so, but it isn’t. It is a wonderfully vulnerable play adapted to television. End of.
    I mean…her coming out like this and showing her colours, it is safe to assume that Martha is based her, but that was her own doing, not Gadds. Also she is a desperately unlikable person, does that mean she isn’t in her right to be angry, no, but I’m good with detecting bad people, she is definitely one of them. The interview was hilarious, you just had to listen to her contradictions to know she has dug herself into this hole.
    Absolutely no sympathy, she’s done this to herself, and the popcorn is delicious!

  • @emaung
    @emaung 27 днів тому +14

    If you watch the intro on Fargo carefully, it faded out the word “true”. Fargo is known to be not a truth story since the beginning.

    • @Globaldave1970
      @Globaldave1970 27 днів тому +1

      LOL.L In Fargo it was tongue in cheek. Everyone knew it was fictional.

    • @nicoleb81
      @nicoleb81 20 днів тому +1

      The difference is Fargo wasn’t basing any of its characters on an easily identifiable person and accusing them of having been in prison… I dislike Fiona and think she’s awful. But I think Netflix dropped the ball on this one

    • @mamabeartrue420
      @mamabeartrue420 19 днів тому

      Says so in the commentary lol love that movie 😂

  • @user-sz4uf8lc7l
    @user-sz4uf8lc7l 25 днів тому +5

    love Lorraine and Piers xx

  • @andysteele5707
    @andysteele5707 16 днів тому +3

    Piers, getting home every day looking about his front door wondering if someone is lurking, watching 🤣.

  • @veebijl9761
    @veebijl9761 12 днів тому +1

    Really rate Piers Morgan... I think he always gives a fair and balanced platform, even when he 'personally' may have a differing view. 👍

  • @janetDT1904
    @janetDT1904 25 днів тому +22

    Richard Gadd said previously that the real Martha didn't go to jail.

    • @meggo329
      @meggo329 23 дні тому +4

      I think the ending was to give closure to the situation. They knew the audience went on the horrendous ride and wanted to give us closure.

    • @TubularBelles
      @TubularBelles 22 дні тому

      Where did she say that?

    • @TubularBelles
      @TubularBelles 22 дні тому +2

      She certainly deserved to go to jail.

  • @abigailknight2045
    @abigailknight2045 26 днів тому +37

    Please lord Netflix, let Martha write her own tv series drama about her relationship with Gadd. Just be fun to see her perspective 😅

    • @user-bb7yf8uy8j
      @user-bb7yf8uy8j 25 днів тому +1

      I bet in her version he groped her instead hahahhahahahaa

    • @RachelSings21
      @RachelSings21 25 днів тому +2

      Omg GENIUS!

    • @Blondie-ic3wo
      @Blondie-ic3wo 20 днів тому +2

      No thanks lol

    • @stephanie74174
      @stephanie74174 4 дні тому

      It would be all about how he wanted to sleep with HER, but she couldn't because he had a big green spot!

  • @KyleSLFC
    @KyleSLFC 25 днів тому +8

    She needs help or a jail sentence

  • @Riana.dS.
    @Riana.dS. 25 днів тому +5

    She does not deserve $1 for this interview.

  • @stuartsharples9520
    @stuartsharples9520 27 днів тому +11

    How do we know it is her, this is the power of the media it might be another wacko , you don’t know. She could be an imposter..

  • @remit7360
    @remit7360 19 днів тому +2

    If she gets obsessed about getting paid by Netflix, then she will go all the way.

  • @benfurbank
    @benfurbank 27 днів тому +5

    Anyone heard of Fargo? People thought that was real. And it wasn't based on anything real

  • @janetclaireSays
    @janetclaireSays 4 дні тому

    It seems pretty stupid of Netflix to not just say "Based upon a true story."

  • @tomssskliko5810
    @tomssskliko5810 25 днів тому +2

    Fiona Muir is Mark E. Smith

  • @user-bo2se8ml4l
    @user-bo2se8ml4l 27 днів тому +15

    at the end credits it says some bits fictional.

    • @caramelbunbuns327
      @caramelbunbuns327 26 днів тому +3

      But it shouldn't though be at the end but on the start of the series.

    • @user-bo2se8ml4l
      @user-bo2se8ml4l 26 днів тому

      @@caramelbunbuns327 im thinking of the legality ie can she sue if it says some bits fictional

    • @user-bo2se8ml4l
      @user-bo2se8ml4l 26 днів тому +3

      @@caramelbunbuns327 legally doesn't matter...its there...also the only person who said Fiona is Martha is...Fiona

  • @Arrouba123
    @Arrouba123 27 днів тому +11

    I think Piers is milking the “even if I sent those messages…” point a bit too much. This is normal lawyer talk, where they put their case first and then the second possibility if the legal test for the first count is not met. That does not mean the first possibility wasn’t true.

    • @tamerfilly
      @tamerfilly 26 днів тому

      Whether Netflix added the comments at the end of its credits or not, it's hard to catch, yet someone has. That's interesting !

    • @Arrouba123
      @Arrouba123 26 днів тому +1

      @@tamerfilly I was referring to a phrase Fiona said herself in her interview with Piers. She said “even if I sent those messages that doesn’t meant that…”. Piers thought it was a weird thing to say, but it’s not. It’s pretty standard, I’d say. But I agree with you that Netflix should have made the claim that not all of it is fictional more obvious and not in the fine print.

    • @tamerfilly
      @tamerfilly 26 днів тому +2

      I get what you mean now. The credits at the end was a disclaimer. However, having to go to court, claiming its a true story, and it's part not, will be such an interesting case if it goes further.

    • @Arrouba123
      @Arrouba123 26 днів тому

      @@tamerfilly It will indeed and I’m here for it! Haha

  • @user-dm1if3ex7y
    @user-dm1if3ex7y 24 дні тому

    Painting. Helen Bradley’s famous paintings Vide

  • @meggo329
    @meggo329 23 дні тому +4

    So her story is she only met him three times and didnt know him well. But if you watch she goes on to say she was in love with him and they were friends oh but wait she isnt interested in "little boys".. Ummm miss your story makes no sense. Me thinks your not telling the truth.

    • @jewelssunsun9450
      @jewelssunsun9450 22 дні тому

      She didn't say she was in love with him.

    • @ashb3789
      @ashb3789 22 дні тому

      I thought she said yes when he asked her that question but she said “pierce… is that a serious question?” When she says pierce, because of her Scottish accent, it sounds like she says yes but she didn’t.

  • @daranphilipson1025
    @daranphilipson1025 21 день тому +2

    Didn’t watch the interview but I hoped he asked if she owned an IPhone.

    • @jadesx96
      @jadesx96 2 дні тому

      Im pretty sure she stated she had like 4 or 5 phones in the interview it was bizarre

  • @Avocadovr768
    @Avocadovr768 21 день тому +2

    Has anyone seen Martha and Lorraine in the same room? Just saying

  • @susanryan7285
    @susanryan7285 6 днів тому

    She talks about others but it's what she is iike!

  • @paoleonlopez
    @paoleonlopez 2 дні тому

    She getting any kind of reward for that behavior will be horrible for all her victims because she definitely stock those peoples and disturbed their life’s.

  • @user-hf6ir9fj9j
    @user-hf6ir9fj9j 25 днів тому +2

    Free Alex Bellfield!!

  • @tamerfilly
    @tamerfilly 27 днів тому +52

    Her name is Martha Muir ... Her nephew has come forward and stated she did go to prison... Her Facebook account has nearly over 100 tweets a day....

    • @stuartsharples9520
      @stuartsharples9520 27 днів тому +10

      Interesting how did you find this information, hey listen I’m not doubting you. But we all get hood winked by the media so easily..😢

    • @WeArePreciousLittleThings
      @WeArePreciousLittleThings 27 днів тому +26

      Facebook doesn't have tweets

    • @amandamurray2346
      @amandamurray2346 27 днів тому +20

      I've also heard that this nephew is actually not her nephew

    • @TheCozzab
      @TheCozzab 26 днів тому +1

      That's not her though

    • @tamerfilly
      @tamerfilly 26 днів тому +10

      I made a mistake, I said Martha ( as actress) when her real name is Fiona Muir. It's all over UA-cam and Facebook. I said tweets, opps, so sorry, yet irrelevant. She uses two names, Harvey and Muir. Scottish newspaper in 2013 claims she stalked two politicians. Donald Dewar first minister and the late MP Jimmy Wray and his wife Laura when she was a former Labour party member.

  • @TubularBelles
    @TubularBelles 22 дні тому +1

    IT DOES SAY IN THE END CREDITS THAT NO-ONE WATCHED INCLUDING PIERS OBVIOUSLY THAT PARTS ARE FICTIONALISED. FUNNILY ENOUGH I HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO CATCH A SCREEN SHOT OF IT. DELIBERATE?????

  • @astrologerdawn1200
    @astrologerdawn1200 9 днів тому

    This is a drama and she outed herself.

  • @manafhasan
    @manafhasan 6 днів тому

    Enougf Piers! I didn’t ly to ya
    Sent from it iphone

  • @evebermingham2125
    @evebermingham2125 21 день тому +3

    The lady is mentally unwell, I don't think media should take advantage of her. END OF.

  • @lillired857
    @lillired857 26 днів тому +2

    Piers was extemely manipulative, and repeated several times 'even if you had sent all those emails, it doesnt mean you attacked or abused him'' words to that effect, getting her to agree, but she never admitted to sending all that, he just twisted it like he wasnt the one saying it!! Im not saying she was innocent, but Piers was putting words in her mouth.

    • @ZaineShah-do6gj
      @ZaineShah-do6gj 26 днів тому

      Snowflakes like you are never happy with whatever he does. So sit down somewhere

    • @destinychild4659
      @destinychild4659 25 днів тому +3

      Woman's behaviour was bit creepy. I just couldn't believe anything she said.

  • @andyscott6315
    @andyscott6315 18 днів тому

    Pierce Morgan back in itv, wow, well not that shocking really

    • @jadesx96
      @jadesx96 2 дні тому

      its a trending story, gotta milk those ratings lol

  • @lorir5728
    @lorir5728 21 день тому

    Doesn't Netflix have other shows where they say the true names of people. Like when they do The Crown? Happens all the time.

  • @KeizerHedorah
    @KeizerHedorah 20 днів тому

    blody el mate

  • @madstylesnz
    @madstylesnz 22 дні тому

    I think if Richard Gadd doesn’t go on Pier’s show that says it all - that she is the real Martha.

  • @NoContextTheOfficeUK-zb9co
    @NoContextTheOfficeUK-zb9co 15 днів тому +1

    Wow Cat Deeley looks old these days

  • @Mature
    @Mature 25 днів тому +2

    For some reason i do believe this woman. 41k emails? I mean, seriously?

    • @tamerfilly
      @tamerfilly 25 днів тому

      @Mature it works out at around 7.000 a day.

    • @catontario1
      @catontario1 23 дні тому

      If it is true, it should be pretty easy to find them. They can be deleted but they will never be gone.

  • @KyleSLFC
    @KyleSLFC 25 днів тому +2

    She has been to jail and she sent 300 messages to Keir Starmer she is clearly mental

    • @ulyaka4781
      @ulyaka4781 22 дні тому

      No evidence of her ever being to jail apparently.

  • @Fussyfarro7
    @Fussyfarro7 27 днів тому +19

    She deserve the million pounds overall... they are making money out of this woman. She deserve to benefit too...

    • @tamerfilly
      @tamerfilly 26 днів тому +2

      I personally feel very sad for her. She is constantly being mocked on her Facebook, and attacks negative comments about her. Even down to the actress who played Martha, as being grossly over weight, and nothing like her.

    • @annmolloy8600
      @annmolloy8600 26 днів тому +9

      Can’t you see she’s not a nice.person.

    • @cromwellg60
      @cromwellg60 26 днів тому +5

      @@tamerfillyshe is grossly overweight though. The actress looks a lot like her.

    • @tomssskliko5810
      @tomssskliko5810 25 днів тому

      Right!

    • @anthonynaccarato8995
      @anthonynaccarato8995 25 днів тому +2

      Especially if she did all of the stalking …definitely deserves to get paid for that