ESG + CRS = BS ? Straight Talk on Business for Social Good with Tariq Fancy and Bethany McLean

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  • Опубліковано 14 лют 2023
  • Former BlackRock CIO for Sustainable Investing, Tariq Fancy, examines “Tesla capitalism” vs. “Tobacco capitalism” in this talk hosted by the Corporations and Society Initiative and moderated by Bethany McLean, business journalist and author.
    Introductions by Cooper Wetherbee, CASI student leader and MBA '23, and Anat Admati, The George G.C. Parker Professor of Finance and Economics and CASI Director.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 59

  • @positiveandstrong
    @positiveandstrong Рік тому +38

    ESG and Net zero initiatives have become some sort of a gravy train for so-called consultants such as McKinsey, MSCI, accenture, and other usual suspects. They're charging fees for trying to measure something which isn't measurable. Yet their fees are off the charts.

    • @robertmarmaduke186
      @robertmarmaduke186 Рік тому

      The NWS Regional Climate Center, reporting to IPCC Brussels, sits on 25,000 acres of concrete and smoking asphalt. They admit their summer readings are +10F to +14F (10 Centuries of Global Warming) higher than surrounding towns. Seattle designated their site a Critical Minority Climate Heat Reparations Zone!
      "RECORD MID-MAY HEAT FOR WEEKEND!!" NWS Climate Center + KING5 megaphoned to Signs & Tribulations End of Days Gretians. RECORD HEAT!! Well, near noon here, 25 miles outside Seattle, *FORTY-EIGHT DEGREES AND DRIZZLING.* _So much for the beach!_ Anti-Science ESG Ludditry has taken over Social Media. *I cow fart on your El Nino!*

    • @deenzmartin6695
      @deenzmartin6695 11 місяців тому

      it's quite the racket

    • @Hamasvard_University
      @Hamasvard_University 25 днів тому

      Exactly. My uncle is one these consultants, who provide CSR consultancy. He goes on and on about how he is 'solving social problems using technology'

    • @Kathakathan11
      @Kathakathan11 6 днів тому

      It actually has some tangible outcomes, seems like you don’t belong to that field.
      I simpler example, the steel industry that finds the education of slum children, who don’t have access to quality education.
      Another project of training African ladies to install solar equipment’s and repair them, this creates financial security.

  • @zacharydavis4398
    @zacharydavis4398 8 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for spending the time to create and share this content awareness/perspective

  • @gb4375
    @gb4375 Рік тому +13

    Excellent conversation. I have been studying these challenges during my MBA and continued with University of Cambridge post-grad studies. This conversation managed to capture many key challenges and findings in a brief time. I would love to hear more on this topic, perhaps a series.

    • @YBHML
      @YBHML 8 місяців тому

      So cool to get a "masters" degree from an institution that exploits black men on basketball courts for billions

  • @gabb05
    @gabb05 Рік тому +1

    Great conversation. Tariq just gets to the point, no sugar coating

  • @d.owczarzak6888
    @d.owczarzak6888 11 місяців тому +13

    Down with ESG !!!!

  • @claypoole702
    @claypoole702 Рік тому +22

    ESG is...
    #JustAnotherSocialCreditScore
    I don't know about you, but I do not want centralized controls in any format. I don't want some agency placed in a powerful positions encumbered by immature psyches dictating whom gets to benefit from their discretions.

    • @shin-ishikiri-no
      @shin-ishikiri-no Рік тому

      Did you buy and start using Monero XMR? No? Then how are you resisting centralization?

    • @claypoole702
      @claypoole702 Рік тому

      @@shin-ishikiri-no Small stones create large ripples. Everyone is trapped in the conditioning of instant gratification. Life isn't a tap, a light switch. You can't turn it on and off with ful effect ever. Binary thinking leads to binary observations and binary solutions.
      Up you experiences... You will see life can have a better pallette.

    • @Kathakathan11
      @Kathakathan11 6 днів тому

      You described any society, every society and country has centralising tendency. Simple

  • @kathleen4376
    @kathleen4376 Рік тому +1

    Would love to hear more

  • @bigpicture3
    @bigpicture3 11 місяців тому +5

    I noticed there are no psychologists on the panel. The current theory in that science is that the general (baseline) attitudes, feelings, and social behaviours, of a person are formed by the time they are 7 years old. The amount of that which is attributable to biology and/or to social conditioning in not clearly known, only that it emerges and is formed. A lot of this takes the form of unconscious biases, likes and hates etc. race, gender, ethnicity, and every other rational and irrational attitude. So a key to this early development is NOT to teach "irrational beliefs", or beliefs and attitudes that unconsciously conflict. This concept by Larry Fink about "forced behaviours" on Corporate Executives is totally contrary to human nature, and to Capitalism. If you try to "FORCE" a "Corporate Executive" out of making PROFIT for shareholders, then you are going to get the crazy "Budweiser Effect".

  • @DanielSRosehill
    @DanielSRosehill Рік тому +4

    Enjoyed Tariq's intelligent analysis!

  • @prednosttrake
    @prednosttrake 11 місяців тому +14

    Extra ESG points if you discriminate against Christian white males.

    • @Kathakathan11
      @Kathakathan11 6 днів тому

      They discriminate against any religion, it’s mostly atheist approach.

    • @Kathakathan11
      @Kathakathan11 6 днів тому

      Except islam obviously

  • @larrye3602
    @larrye3602 20 днів тому +1

    If ESG is necessary, put it in law, where it can be contested. Otherwise it is ideological, subjective and undemocratic

  • @JohnPaulGarcia-fi3pg
    @JohnPaulGarcia-fi3pg 21 день тому

    You can still intergrate CSR and ESG ideals and philosophy naturally. You don't need these so-called "consulting groups or firms" to achieve that. You just need to be self-aware with everything around and respecting the indivial it collective rights of not only your workforce but also your clientele without being seen as being "forceful" and has an obvious ulterior motive or agenda. It's just a matter of how you implement and practice it.

  • @yourportlandlifestyle2907
    @yourportlandlifestyle2907 7 місяців тому

    Nice talk. I can speak to the energy piece of this and many of the components of buildings are already labeled for energy consumption. Building energy codes are created after testing on various building assemblies. The esg score as far as a consumer can see just gives a number. Well what does that mean? Is it offsets that gets them there? Is it the buildings that get them there? I find just that one portion of the score to be opaque and rather meaningless. We have energy audits here on residential homes and I know of a project that was built by the same builder tested by 2 different auditors that were 35% apart. That is not a reliable number.

  • @user-dd4vy3ci8t
    @user-dd4vy3ci8t 8 місяців тому

    The fundamental problem we have here is that the earth has only so many resources on it. Yes with technology we are finding more - it still is constrained and the world is becoming more polluted/degraded. ESG has become a political football in many cases. Surely it needs to step aside from such debates and for ESG to focus on the environmental element, otherwise there will be no future profit for firms to harvest.

  • @deenzmartin6695
    @deenzmartin6695 Рік тому +39

    esg is a scam. in fact, it's worse than that.

  • @SkyOceanBleu
    @SkyOceanBleu 4 місяці тому

    If there are great regulatory ideas to be implemented, they should be voted on thru Congress. If there are business decisions to be made, they should serve the shareholders.
    ESG in its current form sidesteps our democratic republic representation, and runs counter to the Boards responsibilities to the shareholders, while giving people setting ESG standards powers they should not have.
    I say this without regard to the merits of ESG agendas, or lack thereof. Some ESG ideas could be really good ideas, and they would still suffer from aforementioned major issues.

  • @envenged6967
    @envenged6967 Рік тому +2

    As someone that supports ESG efforts reflexively, this was an excellent discussion in broadening the scope of the discussion to diagnose the underlying problems facing society. For me, ESG is a band-aid that feels more likely to succeed in the short term at boosting environmental and social equity outcomes than fixing the underlying issues (obstructed government, disinformation, corruption, etc.). The danger is of course that these band-aids do more harm than good, specifically by covering up/excusing corruption and anti-democratic trends while making inadequate progress on dire environmental and social issues.
    While the takeaway is that we have a lot more work to do than ESG rhetoric would have us believe, it also makes the argument for a broader solution more robust to populist challenges.

    • @deenzmartin6695
      @deenzmartin6695 11 місяців тому

      never support anything "reflexively"

  • @redsox258
    @redsox258 11 місяців тому +2

    .......... Soooooooooo, you're sayign short ESG's? Fuck it, I'm in!

  • @technononono966
    @technononono966 Місяць тому

    Typo in the title

  • @hp_0189
    @hp_0189 11 місяців тому +8

    ESG = The Gay for pay score 😆 🤣 😂

  • @beeman9845
    @beeman9845 10 місяців тому

    Jake Gyllenhalll!!

  • @ruvanefriebus-cv6td
    @ruvanefriebus-cv6td 9 місяців тому +1

    Stanford University based AF well done

  • @hussienalsafi1149
    @hussienalsafi1149 Рік тому

    😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠

  • @kurtmoser2039
    @kurtmoser2039 Рік тому +12

    Investing in crypto now, with Timothy Gregg should be in every wise individuals list, in some months time you'll be ecstatic with the decision you made today.