So this is my interpretation. First the foundation. I know that i am not this body the brain or its thoughts. This is my foundation of truth. I came to this realization during inward flowing awareness meditaion. That these thoughts cannot be mine and that day the duality of body and soul was illuminated. Of awareness and the ego. Lets put that aside for a while and get into the video. Attachemnts of the ego body brain thoughts. Mine has many. It has beliefs opinions its made conclusions and its attached to them. It wants to defend them and get aggressive all the time. Ive become aware of my attachments and the ego trys to trick me all the time and tell itself its not attached. In the moment it will loose awareness and it fights it gets aggressive. Only after i realize damit that was attachment..... Its automatic and habitual. 36 years of non stop programming to be automatic. The body is 37 now. So can one be free of all of this he asks ? Its up to you. !!! He says. When your attached theres no love. He says Because attachemnt is fear its emotion its thought its Anger pain suffering Conflict Conclusions beliefs. Thats all body brain ego subconscious existential self. Amd im not that im nothingness loveing awareness the transcendent self, im watching that, im the observer of that ego. But i keep being that ego i keep falling into the cycle the trap of conclusions attachemnts of suffering and conflict. It keeps telling itself that this is true and that is true. Using its knowledge. Thinking. Believing attaching. I know its 2 parts ☯ .. Its half the ego and half the soul (mind) or awareness what ever you wana call it. The observer. The watcher. The ego has no love. It wants to gather and gain power a position prestige. How can such a man love another he says. He gos on to say when you say i love god and i higher principle is that love ? Because god is a resualt of thought created out of fear by man. All gods are invented by thought. To find out what love is. He said there must be an end to sorrow to suffering to conflict. End to attachemnt. End to everything we have committed to inwardly. Where the self the ego the me (identity) the body is love is not. This is very important. He is saying that every time you forget that you are not the body and you make a conclusion you have an opinion you have a belief you are without love. Love is awereness. The soul. (Is this a conclusions ???) Every time I forget that I am not the ego the body the brain. I loose loving awareness. And I create conflict suffering and attachemnt. Every time im an I. It all gos back to the one truth that my true self has realized witnessed tasted what ever you want to call it. It couldnt have experienced it because im not the experiencer (the body/ego). There is no I to experience it. Confusing I know.... He gos on to say that the mlre you inquire about this the more life becomes dangeous. And ive personally experienced this. People do not want to talk about it. They do not want to hear it you are alone. You have to give up a lot of things. He says and i can attest to this. Naturally this happens when going through this process. And you will piss people off. Get many bricks thrown at you. So truth is lonley. Its completely alone as he says. And i know this to be true. And this creates fear. He says you may see truth but you cave in to others and become a hypocrite. ( in my own case i have not caved and it has casued a ton of damage) not accepted. He gets into the nature of intelligence. Compassion and love have there own intelligence. What is intelligence. Its not knowlage he states it cannot be found in books. Thats thought thats belief conclusions. Attachemnt. Compassion and love cannot exist through Religion ect... Politics beliefs opinions conclusions. Love and compassion are not the products of thought. This is me... They are the products of awereness. In understanding the nature of love compassion which is to deny all that which is not. To see that which is false as false is the beginning of intelligence. Love and compassion. To see the truth in the faults is the beginning of intelligence To see the nature of disorder. And end it. Not carry on day after day. The ending is the immediate perception that is intellegence. Love compassion. Loving compassionate awareness. I know this is a lot. This is just what im going through. So much has changed simce this happened. And every day is so much learning. Im still in the habit of forgetting that i have no opinions i have no complete knowlege. I still try to be right. I still get angry and try to defend those conclusions. I am now aware of them tho. I see what im doing and slowley i think that it will dissolve. The more i practice awereness in the moment. Watching just being present. Here now. Not knowing not talking and thinking just being the more it will end. I dont know this is hard lol With love from the transcendent loving awereness and compassion i hope you all the best 🙏
That is still just a thought, an idea. A construct. If you can experience it, just as it is, without thought. Only then it’s not an construct. If you can experience a flower without the slightest emotion or thought, then that is direct and contaminated experience beyond concept. That is called “non-movement” and is said to be our natural state of being. To bring in a concept of god or Brahman into the mix muddles our mind and the natural flow of awareness is broken. Therefor Brahman is our attachment or prison.
Good video, thanks. In @_Quotes today, K said, "There are drugs that give all the things that yoga promises.....but surely those are tricks"? On his deathbed he said, " but nobody has done it. Nobody" If his followers who devoted themselves to his message couldn't "do it", then what chance the rest of us? K said he thought there was a mutation in his brain, but maybe the rest of us need outside help? ( cannabis) What do you think?
Surely not cannabis. I can speak from over 30 years experience with it and long term it has a dulling, muddling effect. If you're going to use drugs to influence a "mutation" you'll likely be better off microdosing mushrooms.
This is such a beautiful talk 😢
timeless
thank you krishna ji
Clarity of mind...! Namista JK..RIP 🙏❤️
It is through LOVE that one EVOLVES by detaching from SORROW and WORRIES.
"fear is not love"
"God is invented by man"
Amazingly said, without anesthesia!
"To end disorder immediately is the intelligence, not carry it day by day." - JK
"Intelligence cannot be bought in books"
"Become, if I may suggest so respectfully, become aware of the consequences of that attachment."
But book can help reach the intelligence. Perhaps realisation of it would start a new journey.
Pourquoi pas ? Why not ?
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How does one get over attachedment,, sply towards our parents or children?
So this is my interpretation.
First the foundation.
I know that i am not this body the brain or its thoughts. This is my foundation of truth. I came to this realization during inward flowing awareness meditaion. That these thoughts cannot be mine and that day the duality of body and soul was illuminated. Of awareness and the ego. Lets put that aside for a while and get into the video.
Attachemnts of the ego body brain thoughts. Mine has many. It has beliefs opinions its made conclusions and its attached to them. It wants to defend them and get aggressive all the time.
Ive become aware of my attachments and the ego trys to trick me all the time and tell itself its not attached. In the moment it will loose awareness and it fights it gets aggressive.
Only after i realize damit that was attachment..... Its automatic and habitual. 36 years of non stop programming to be automatic.
The body is 37 now.
So can one be free of all of this he asks ?
Its up to you. !!! He says.
When your attached theres no love. He says
Because attachemnt is fear its emotion its thought its Anger pain suffering Conflict Conclusions beliefs. Thats all body brain ego subconscious existential self.
Amd im not that im nothingness loveing awareness the transcendent self, im watching that, im the observer of that ego.
But i keep being that ego i keep falling into the cycle the trap of conclusions attachemnts of suffering and conflict. It keeps telling itself that this is true and that is true. Using its knowledge. Thinking. Believing attaching.
I know its 2 parts ☯ .. Its half the ego and half the soul (mind) or awareness what ever you wana call it. The observer. The watcher.
The ego has no love. It wants to gather and gain power a position prestige. How can such a man love another he says.
He gos on to say when you say i love god and i higher principle is that love ? Because god is a resualt of thought created out of fear by man.
All gods are invented by thought.
To find out what love is. He said there must be an end to sorrow to suffering to conflict. End to attachemnt. End to everything we have committed to inwardly.
Where the self the ego the me (identity) the body is love is not.
This is very important. He is saying that every time you forget that you are not the body and you make a conclusion you have an opinion you have a belief you are without love.
Love is awereness. The soul. (Is this a conclusions ???) Every time I forget that I am not the ego the body the brain. I loose loving awareness. And I create conflict suffering and attachemnt. Every time im an I.
It all gos back to the one truth that my true self has realized witnessed tasted what ever you want to call it. It couldnt have experienced it because im not the experiencer (the body/ego). There is no I to experience it. Confusing I know....
He gos on to say that the mlre you inquire about this the more life becomes dangeous. And ive personally experienced this. People do not want to talk about it. They do not want to hear it you are alone. You have to give up a lot of things. He says and i can attest to this. Naturally this happens when going through this process.
And you will piss people off. Get many bricks thrown at you. So truth is lonley. Its completely alone as he says. And i know this to be true.
And this creates fear. He says you may see truth but you cave in to others and become a hypocrite. ( in my own case i have not caved and it has casued a ton of damage) not accepted.
He gets into the nature of intelligence.
Compassion and love have there own intelligence.
What is intelligence. Its not knowlage he states it cannot be found in books. Thats thought thats belief conclusions. Attachemnt.
Compassion and love cannot exist through Religion ect... Politics beliefs opinions conclusions.
Love and compassion are not the products of thought.
This is me... They are the products of awereness.
In understanding the nature of love compassion which is to deny all that which is not.
To see that which is false as false is the beginning of intelligence. Love and compassion.
To see the truth in the faults is the beginning of intelligence
To see the nature of disorder. And end it.
Not carry on day after day.
The ending is the immediate perception that is intellegence. Love compassion.
Loving compassionate awareness.
I know this is a lot. This is just what im going through. So much has changed simce this happened. And every day is so much learning. Im still in the habit of forgetting that i have no opinions i have no complete knowlege. I still try to be right. I still get angry and try to defend those conclusions.
I am now aware of them tho. I see what im doing and slowley i think that it will dissolve. The more i practice awereness in the moment. Watching just being present. Here now. Not knowing not talking and thinking just being the more it will end. I dont know this is hard lol
With love from the transcendent loving awereness and compassion i hope you all the best
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the rishis said Brahman is where thoughts end ?
That is still just a thought, an idea. A construct. If you can experience it, just as it is, without thought. Only then it’s not an construct. If you can experience a flower without the slightest emotion or thought, then that is direct and contaminated experience beyond concept. That is called “non-movement” and is said to be our natural state of being. To bring in a concept of god or Brahman into the mix muddles our mind and the natural flow of awareness is broken. Therefor Brahman is our attachment or prison.
Full video?
Search Krishnamurti Calcutta 1982
A mistake in subtitle. Instead of Brahman.. You have put brahmin.
Good video, thanks. In @_Quotes today, K said, "There are drugs that give all the things that yoga promises.....but surely those are tricks"?
On his deathbed he said, " but nobody has done it. Nobody"
If his followers who devoted themselves to his message couldn't
"do it", then what chance the rest of us?
K said he thought there was a mutation in his brain, but maybe the rest of us need outside help? ( cannabis)
What do you think?
Surely not cannabis. I can speak from over 30 years experience with it and long term it has a dulling, muddling effect. If you're going to use drugs to influence a "mutation" you'll likely be better off microdosing mushrooms.
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