@@blisterbrain Ouch! The end is near. Somehow I think the die hards will find a way to synch the speed of the car with the audio system so that it plays the sounds of a NA flat six. And maybe even hack the MOTOR to simulate shift points.
Option that Americans want the most? You mean like after they started importing Tiptronics how the vast majority of 911s sold continued to be equipped with manual transmissions? I think you're confusing "Americans" with "Buick buyers".
haha I completely agree that's hilarious, but it's kind of sad that most Lamborghini or Ferrari buyers prefer the automatic and those beautiful gated shifters are gone forever.
+Joey Baby Emissions is the only reason for water cooling.. and led to quite a bit more weight.. !!! So actually water cooling is a step backward from a performance point. Singer Porsches are making over 350bhp with air cooling, and to me they sound better.
What a completely dumbass statement, Joey. You were the perfect sucker for the marketing bullshit Porsche engaged in as they killed the real 911 with automatic transmissions and watercooled engines and all sorts of nannycontrols as the years went on.
Clownshow. Some of this was dubbed straight from the previous Carrera 4 review. Complaining about the seats, then showing that the car actually has sport seats.
Well let me say this: A 911 to me must have a stick, even the new ones. That having been said I now have my first slushbox ever, in 27 cars, mostly BMWs and VW and SAABS. And frankly, I love it. That's because Seattle traffic is just so much bullshit so I have a 9-3 Convertible SAAB with a Stage One hop up and it's a lot of fun in sport mode, it gets things done. And leaves my right hand to roam all over my GF LOL I know distracted driving tho.
30 years later you could buy a Porsche 718 base model for about the same price, $60k. While it doesn't have the iconic badge of the 911, the 718 2.0 liter turbo outperforms it's ancestor by a wide margin.
Lol and you don't even consider inflation? $60k in 1990 is $130k in todays money. Actually today's 911 with inflation accounted for is considerably cheaper
Beautiful car this Carrera 2. However, the automatic transmission seems like more of luxury car option than sports car option. The 911 used to be sports car. But then it has leather interior option and optional floor mats, so maybe it's a luxury car, too. I don't know.
Even with double-clutch gearboxes, an automatic in a 911 is just wrong. I never drove a 964 but I did get to drive the tiptronic in both a 996 and a 997.1 and it pretty much ruins the character of the car, IMO. The 997.2's PDK was a lot better, but I would still pick a manual every day of the week and twice on sundays. The 911's tiptronic felt like a (slightly faster) traditional box - because it is one. In my humble view, unless you're disabled, you should never get a 911 with an auto. Or, perhaps, if this is the sort of transmission you absolutely want or need, perhaps you shouldn't be driving a 911. Don't get me wrong: Automatics are fine in certain types of cars, but in a sports-car? We're pretty far removed from the task of driving these days as it is, thanks to things like electric power-steering, noise insulation, etc ... Which is fine in an S-class, but I wouldn't want to "give away" the level of control and involvement a manual offers in anything with sporting ambitions. Heck, I never even considered VW's DSG when I ordered both my Mk V and Mk VI Golf GTIs - and back then, those new boxes were all the rage.
Thank goodness I don't make any of the laws in this country because if I did, earning a driver's license would be impossible without demonstrating proof that the driver seeking to earn a license can properly drive as stick and work a clutch smoothly. It pains me to see just how slack and scared the majority of people are in the US. It's no wonder why some of the coolest cars were never historically offered in this country. Sigh... Pathetic.
Amazing how that tiptronic eventually turned into that magnificent PDK Porsche offers
Sportomatic would have been an awesome option on the 964!
Nearing the pinnacle of the air-cooled 911s. But I had no idea the tiptronic was available in 1990.
Even before I think and they had something very similar, a predessor back in the early 70s.
Sportomatic was available from 1967-1980. It was an automatic clutch and manual shifter. Best of both worlds.
@@JoJoJokerso what do you do? Is it where all you have to do is lift your foot off the gas then shift?
@@lowkeydiegoduran4724 yes. Touching the shift knob activates the clutch...use the throttle to rev match.
Wow everything all awesome in this video
The beginning of the end for the manual transmission...
I have a 2008 911/997 with a 6 speed.Porsche will always have a manual transmission for the true sports car enthusiast.
Not really but soon it will be .
@@michaelmarinas7643 Even when they're all electric?
PDK is the end...at least for me.
@@blisterbrain Ouch! The end is near. Somehow I think the die hards will find a way to synch the speed of the car with the audio system so that it plays the sounds of a NA flat six. And maybe even hack the MOTOR to simulate shift points.
These cost almost as much now as they did new, pretty amazing.
$60K in 1990 is like $120K in 2020. A perfect 964 coupe could definitely go for that...possibly more if truly concours
5:50 nice wooden tennis racquets! Still such a clean 911 design, timeless.
Option that Americans want the most? You mean like after they started importing Tiptronics how the vast majority of 911s sold continued to be equipped with manual transmissions? I think you're confusing "Americans" with "Buick buyers".
haha I completely agree that's hilarious, but it's kind of sad that most Lamborghini or Ferrari buyers prefer the automatic and those beautiful gated shifters are gone forever.
Love the radio presets... DC101 and WHFS!
Howard and Damian.
So here is where it all started for exotics, sports and super-cars to adopt automatics. Then the rest of the segments followed. Pity...
There Is No Substitute
Looks to be equipped with some sort of USA pot-hole suspension as well.
Shut it off at 1:08 when I heard it was an auto. Thanks John.
AUtos are faster than manuals and porsche has a sophisticated auto that shifts way faster than a manual
@@davidpineda645 but after driving a 996 c2 in auto ,it was literally the worst car you could drive around town!!!
It's time to grow up buddy
@@lowkeydiegoduran4724 Really, I don't think so!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comes with extra large cup holders for acomidating macdonalds king size coke
And extra large size bucket seats👍
Love the brake squeel at the end. Makes me glad I didn't spring for the anti squeel caliper cups.
I love this looking of Porsche 911, 80s and 90s is best cars
Great car indeed , same price as the NSX in 1990 ! I love German cars , but , for the same price ,I would go with the Acura.
I so wish the gear selector for my tiptronic was down by the shift lever.
It is on the steering wheel and not a paddle so I find it somewhat unusable.
Motorweek is one big Porsche commercial
Sick jacket
Best looking of the 911's. If this had been water cooled, they would have been that much farther ahead of the game.
+Joey Baby Emissions is the only reason for water cooling.. and led to quite a bit more weight.. !!! So actually water cooling is a step backward from a performance point. Singer Porsches are making over 350bhp with air cooling, and to me they sound better.
What a completely dumbass statement, Joey.
You were the perfect sucker for the marketing bullshit Porsche engaged in as they killed the real 911 with automatic transmissions and watercooled engines and all sorts of nannycontrols as the years went on.
Clownshow. Some of this was dubbed straight from the previous Carrera 4 review. Complaining about the seats, then showing that the car actually has sport seats.
I can't believe a company like Porsche put the tiptronic on backwards
Yeah I hate when companies put the upshift selector on the top haha
I love it!
love this car
Can you please boost the volume of these flashback videos?
After breaking: what is the driver telling the guy running up hysterically with a notepad? Couldn't it wait?
Trying to get his lunch order.
They lost me at tiptronic. GET THIS SHIT OFF MY SCREEN.
TheAKBUDDHA1 Damn right... 5 speed on the floor or i dont want it!
There really should have been a warning in the title.
Well let me say this: A 911 to me must have a stick, even the new ones. That having been said I now have my first slushbox ever, in 27 cars, mostly BMWs and VW and SAABS. And frankly, I love it. That's because Seattle traffic is just so much bullshit so I have a 9-3 Convertible SAAB with a Stage One hop up and it's a lot of fun in sport mode, it gets things done. And leaves my right hand to roam all over my GF LOL I know distracted driving tho.
30 years later you could buy a Porsche 718 base model for about the same price, $60k. While it doesn't have the iconic badge of the 911, the 718 2.0 liter turbo outperforms it's ancestor by a wide margin.
Lol and you don't even consider inflation? $60k in 1990 is $130k in todays money. Actually today's 911 with inflation accounted for is considerably cheaper
1990: “A real 911 doesn’t have an auto. transmission.”
2023: “A real 911 doesn’t have electric gauges.”
when i started watching californication i laughed as david duchovny's beat-up 911 cab was a automatic
Beautiful car this Carrera 2. However, the automatic transmission seems like more of luxury car option than sports car option. The 911 used to be sports car. But then it has leather interior option and optional floor mats, so maybe it's a luxury car, too. I don't know.
9 to the 1 to the 1..
leave the tip, take the cannoli
Even with double-clutch gearboxes, an automatic in a 911 is just wrong. I never drove a 964 but I did get to drive the tiptronic in both a 996 and a 997.1 and it pretty much ruins the character of the car, IMO. The 997.2's PDK was a lot better, but I would still pick a manual every day of the week and twice on sundays. The 911's tiptronic felt like a (slightly faster) traditional box - because it is one. In my humble view, unless you're disabled, you should never get a 911 with an auto. Or, perhaps, if this is the sort of transmission you absolutely want or need, perhaps you shouldn't be driving a 911.
Don't get me wrong: Automatics are fine in certain types of cars, but in a sports-car? We're pretty far removed from the task of driving these days as it is, thanks to things like electric power-steering, noise insulation, etc ... Which is fine in an S-class, but I wouldn't want to "give away" the level of control and involvement a manual offers in anything with sporting ambitions. Heck, I never even considered VW's DSG when I ordered both my Mk V and Mk VI Golf GTIs - and back then, those new boxes were all the rage.
Automatic in a 911 RALF!!
I need Motorola Car Telephone!
Porsche.😮
Wood tennis rackets in 1990? Really?
Tiptronic Pizza
Thank goodness I don't make any of the laws in this country because if I did, earning a driver's license would be impossible without demonstrating proof that the driver seeking to earn a license can properly drive as stick and work a clutch smoothly. It pains me to see just how slack and scared the majority of people are in the US. It's no wonder why some of the coolest cars were never historically offered in this country. Sigh... Pathetic.
964 Carrera 2.
a tiptronic 911 would be a good candidate for conversion to electric. "enthusiasts" would flip out if you did that to a manual car.
Oh okay so there is a title for me...I'm a Porschephile!!😂
Wow, a woman!
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷💝🇱🇷
Tiptronic, the worst invention in Porsche history. Change my mind. 😁
0-60 in 6.7 seconds? Seems slow, even by 1990 sports car standards.
@@DaniTheNachoPirate That might mean the manual version may be slower than 6.7 seconds in 0 to 60.
@@louisnguyen2865 Until the modern dual clutch autos, manuals were always faster.
You're clueless
You lost me at tiptronic....boring.
nope.
Slow!
yes, very much so....yawn...
Disgusting!
Ugly and slow ,,prefere an nsx 90 from japan
This would rape an nsx
964 so much more aggressively styled than the bland as shit 993.
Oh darn... the crappiest automatic gearbox ever... Tiptronic it is.
Also, I never got to like the 964's styling, especially that front.
Yep, it looks so unappealing and confusing.