So I picked the wrong version of this song. This is some sort of single version that is missing a very interesting bridge. I checked it out and it's a wild shift in tonality and atmosphere. It adds a lot of contrast through a bit of disjointedness but really helps to break up monotony and repetition, which was one of my criticism of the song. I highly recommend anyone even slightly interested in Cardiacs do themselves a favor and check out the full version of this track. ua-cam.com/video/-_5JV-eboc4/v-deo.html
Yeah, first I couldn’t believe you were finding this plain or boring, because I had the album version in mind, but then I noticed it was the single version.
Such an epic feel in this lovely song! A pity that you (unknowingly) went with the shortened version since the minutes missing really adds to the total! I'm pretty sure you will agree once you give it the chance... Thus is iff their masterpiece Sing to God. They were the underground band of underground bands, only releasing cassettes (I think) before their first proper studio album. They continued to be totally independent throughout their career. My love for them is so huge but just as last time, you'll soon see comments from much more knowledgeable fans... Ps! Lots of wind instruments in this one 🙂 Ds!
Been waiting for the other Cardiacs reaction all day and was pleasantly surprised to see this as well! Such a shame the more out there moments have been gutted out in this version of the song.
The world needs this band if anyone is willing to accept or admit it 👌 I personally sleep better knowing this band is doing their thing... As if they were the last people on earth without an audience 🤔 They still be playing it how it is 👌 I feel the same way about Mates of State
I remember saying the last time you reacted to Cardiacs that they reminded me of a mix of Zappa and Mr. Bungle, but I wasn't crazy about them. This, however, I absolutely loved. If it weren't for the vocals (and the modern production) I'd actually categorize this as psychedelic pop/rock with punk-ish vocals. You mentioned The Beatles and that's exactly it: The Beatles essentially epitomized/popularized psychedelic rock on Sgt. Pepper (not ALL their music was like this, though most of their late music was), and most of the non-punk/non-hard rock bands of the late 60s were essentially doing psychedelic pop-rock (some example bands include The Move, Love, Pink Floyd, Jefferson Airplane, The Doors, The Byrds, The Beach Boys, The Moody Blues, etc.). This sounds almost exactly like that, but with punkier vocals and with a modern sounding production. There are also plenty of bands that have essentially continued that psychedelic pop/rock as well, with the first that comes to my mind being The Flaming Lips (Tame Impala is another). Not many today realize that progressive rock actually evolved out of psychedelic rock, as it was the psychedelic rock bands (especially The Beatles) that started experimenting with concept albums, orchestral textures, unconventional (non-pop) song structures, more technically complex instrumentation, etc. and many of those elements were a huge influence on the first generation of prog rock bands. In fact, one way to think of punk rock was that it was a movement that stood in direct opposition to the excesses of prog and psychedelic rock and wanted to return rock back to its simpler, more primal basics, kinda like the EARLY work of The Beatles (and Rolling Stones). So it's always interesting to me when bands try to reconcile these two traditions that typically stood (and still stand) in opposition to each other.
@@jonathanhenderson9422 ❤ This album might be a good entry although pretty late in their album-productive career ('95) Guns ('99) is my least favourite
Cardiacs! This was not a great pick from this band honestly, especially considering you listened to the Greatest Hits version of the song. For whatever reason, the version you listened to was completely missing the "bridge" I suppose it could be called, which is where pretty much all of the weirdness and magic of this song lies. But even with that part, this is probably their second most conventional song (first being "Is This The Life"). As a hardcore Cardiacs fan, I do like Manhoo, but it doesn't stand out from the rest of their work to me, and I completely understand and honestly agree with many of your critiques. A decent song, but not quintessential Cardiacs. A better song to analyze would be RES (either the Seaside or Whole World Window version, they're different but both great!). IMO, RES is where Tim Smith's compositional mastery shines its brightest. All that said, very happy to see Cardiacs here, and excited to see how you feel about Loosefish!
You've got the wrong version here (no inverted commas). The middle section of the *Sing to God* album version of this takes a dark turn that completely changes the nature of the song, and makes it a _lot_ less "normal" than this one. As it is, here, it's a nice enough pop song, but with the added discord in the longer version it becomes something more. I'll give a link, just so the possibility is open to just go to it direct (I guess you wouldn't do a second reaction. Too late now.) ua-cam.com/video/-_5JV-eboc4/v-deo.html
If you want something you could dance or run too fast to in its first few minutes (but which ends in a more sedate and peaceful place) which might also explain some of the layers of sound that don't seem to fit in other parts of the whole of *Sing to God* try *Nurses Whispering Verses* ua-cam.com/video/tiVOEHIHuzU/v-deo.html
@@CriticalReactions As long as you've heard it, there's nothing lost? (And at if anyone later finds this reaction, there's a note pointing them in the right direction, now, so that's OK, too). "Monotony" is perhaps a bit harsh, though? (Fair enough relative to what one would expect of the band after Tarred and Feathered, but it still moves round quite a lot compared to most "pop hit" songs. I think maybe they were trying for another hit with the single, and didn't want to scare people off with disruptions.) Hmm ... their one biggish hit has two versions, actually.
So I picked the wrong version of this song. This is some sort of single version that is missing a very interesting bridge. I checked it out and it's a wild shift in tonality and atmosphere. It adds a lot of contrast through a bit of disjointedness but really helps to break up monotony and repetition, which was one of my criticism of the song. I highly recommend anyone even slightly interested in Cardiacs do themselves a favor and check out the full version of this track. ua-cam.com/video/-_5JV-eboc4/v-deo.html
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Yeah, first I couldn’t believe you were finding this plain or boring, because I had the album version in mind, but then I noticed it was the single version.
Such an epic feel in this lovely song!
A pity that you (unknowingly) went with the shortened version since the minutes missing really adds to the total! I'm pretty sure you will agree once you give it the chance...
Thus is iff their masterpiece Sing to God. They were the underground band of underground bands, only releasing cassettes (I think) before their first proper studio album. They continued to be totally independent throughout their career. My love for them is so huge but just as last time, you'll soon see comments from much more knowledgeable fans...
Ps! Lots of wind instruments in this one 🙂 Ds!
More Cardiacs please, try The Everso Closely Guarded Line from On Land And In The Sea, or anything from that album, can’t go wrong
Been waiting for the other Cardiacs reaction all day and was pleasantly surprised to see this as well! Such a shame the more out there moments have been gutted out in this version of the song.
Beauty sleep, deep in the ocean...
Tim Smith did love the Beatles.
Listen to the album version - there’s a whole chunk missing from this (the single version). Give it a few more listens, it’ll grow on you.
The world needs this band if anyone is willing to accept or admit it 👌 I personally sleep better knowing this band is doing their thing... As if they were the last people on earth without an audience 🤔 They still be playing it how it is 👌
I feel the same way about Mates of State
dude if you didn't know I'm sorry to say the singer and main songwriter died a few months ago
@@IAMSEYMOURMUSIC Correct 🙏 Sadly so... Sadly so... Still in morning upon this 🙏
I always feel this song is like a glam rock sea shanty. I think the vocals were recorded with varispeed, Tim Smith does that a lot in his productions.
I remember saying the last time you reacted to Cardiacs that they reminded me of a mix of Zappa and Mr. Bungle, but I wasn't crazy about them. This, however, I absolutely loved. If it weren't for the vocals (and the modern production) I'd actually categorize this as psychedelic pop/rock with punk-ish vocals. You mentioned The Beatles and that's exactly it: The Beatles essentially epitomized/popularized psychedelic rock on Sgt. Pepper (not ALL their music was like this, though most of their late music was), and most of the non-punk/non-hard rock bands of the late 60s were essentially doing psychedelic pop-rock (some example bands include The Move, Love, Pink Floyd, Jefferson Airplane, The Doors, The Byrds, The Beach Boys, The Moody Blues, etc.). This sounds almost exactly like that, but with punkier vocals and with a modern sounding production. There are also plenty of bands that have essentially continued that psychedelic pop/rock as well, with the first that comes to my mind being The Flaming Lips (Tame Impala is another).
Not many today realize that progressive rock actually evolved out of psychedelic rock, as it was the psychedelic rock bands (especially The Beatles) that started experimenting with concept albums, orchestral textures, unconventional (non-pop) song structures, more technically complex instrumentation, etc. and many of those elements were a huge influence on the first generation of prog rock bands. In fact, one way to think of punk rock was that it was a movement that stood in direct opposition to the excesses of prog and psychedelic rock and wanted to return rock back to its simpler, more primal basics, kinda like the EARLY work of The Beatles (and Rolling Stones). So it's always interesting to me when bands try to reconcile these two traditions that typically stood (and still stand) in opposition to each other.
You've got very good points and I'm happy yiu loved it. Now go listen to the proper album version! (Sing to God album) 😊
@@progperljungman8218 I do now plan to eventually do a discography run for Cardiacs. They're just too interesting to ignore!
@@jonathanhenderson9422 ❤
This album might be a good entry although pretty late in their album-productive career ('95)
Guns ('99) is my least favourite
This version missed a lot :( still awesome song
Definitely a Beatles feel .. Psychedelic
I'd say this is the track that shows most where Blur were influenced by Cardiacs. It feels a lot like them
The big question: Are YOU the Walrus?
Everso Closely Guarded Line - do it! :)
Best Britpop song ever made, and no one noticed.
Cardiacs! This was not a great pick from this band honestly, especially considering you listened to the Greatest Hits version of the song. For whatever reason, the version you listened to was completely missing the "bridge" I suppose it could be called, which is where pretty much all of the weirdness and magic of this song lies. But even with that part, this is probably their second most conventional song (first being "Is This The Life").
As a hardcore Cardiacs fan, I do like Manhoo, but it doesn't stand out from the rest of their work to me, and I completely understand and honestly agree with many of your critiques.
A decent song, but not quintessential Cardiacs. A better song to analyze would be RES (either the Seaside or Whole World Window version, they're different but both great!). IMO, RES is where Tim Smith's compositional mastery shines its brightest.
All that said, very happy to see Cardiacs here, and excited to see how you feel about Loosefish!
You've got the wrong version here (no inverted commas). The middle section of the *Sing to God* album version of this takes a dark turn that completely changes the nature of the song, and makes it a _lot_ less "normal" than this one. As it is, here, it's a nice enough pop song, but with the added discord in the longer version it becomes something more.
I'll give a link, just so the possibility is open to just go to it direct (I guess you wouldn't do a second reaction. Too late now.)
ua-cam.com/video/-_5JV-eboc4/v-deo.html
If you want something you could dance or run too fast to in its first few minutes (but which ends in a more sedate and peaceful place) which might also explain some of the layers of sound that don't seem to fit in other parts of the whole of *Sing to God* try *Nurses Whispering Verses* ua-cam.com/video/tiVOEHIHuzU/v-deo.html
Yup, I made a pinned a comment about it. It's a bit of a shame I got the wrong version
@@CriticalReactions As long as you've heard it, there's nothing lost? (And at if anyone later finds this reaction, there's a note pointing them in the right direction, now, so that's OK, too).
"Monotony" is perhaps a bit harsh, though? (Fair enough relative to what one would expect of the band after Tarred and Feathered, but it still moves round quite a lot compared to most "pop hit" songs. I think maybe they were trying for another hit with the single, and didn't want to scare people off with disruptions.)
Hmm ... their one biggish hit has two versions, actually.