These council clowns need to be fired and billed for all this waste. How do you not do simple checks on someone when thye apply for a council house? Incredible levels of incompetence.
Unfortunately councils don't have regular access to most of the records they use for these investigations. Getting them is a long process. The British public has been very hostile to centralised record keeping every time it's been proposed.
No wonder these grifters and scammers have totally taken over in the UK. The council is asleep at the wheel and the grifter leeches are one step ahead.
What you hope might happen would probably double the cost, more checks, more people, more salaries. They do checks but obviously they are not on your doorstep for a month just in case you lied.
People who do this should be ordered to pay back every penny. Plus the cost of the investigation. If any work has to be done to the property. Cost to remove any illegal tenants. No more how long it would take. Also the debt can't be wiped out by bankruptcy or anything else. Prison doesn't really work. But hitting people in there pocket book might. Housing councils also need to investigate the people getting these homes. Check they don't own other properties. See if they own a business. Check bank accounts. Get prof of income.
"We've been one step ahead of her..." says the man that took over 2 years to figure out he was being bent over and forced to take it along with his system 😂😂😂 Never a shortage of irony in these.
I am just blown away. The one i just watched had this lady who had a council house for 19 YEARS! Never once did anyone check on her or the house. Meanwhile, she wasnt even living there...but her cats were and the house was destroyed. It was filled with everything you would expect from a house full of cats. A 3 bedroom, with a garden. A family could have used that home. How they thought not following up at least yearly is beyond me. She did get sentenced to prison but i doubt she served her full sentence. Also, maybe verify all the info BEFORE handing over keys and giving them money?? So crazy it just might work.
Uh yeah...everyone can agree that tenancy fraud is serious and widespread. Everyone except the Courts, apparently. Extensive, calculated fraud gets a fine. And given that it was a council employee *should* have been an aggravating circumstance calling for even a higher level of punishment.
Yes, it does not seem that the perpetrators get much of a punishment. I doubt that Angela Brown served more than a few months in prison and I am sure that she did not pay back much, if any, of the money.
The small fine basically made the fraud profitable for them even though they got caught. Absolutely disgraceful. The fine should amount to all profits made (or cost saved) and then some at the very least. Both should be barred from social housing for life also.
Unbelievable that the council did not check this woman out before the give her a property. If the could find out 2 years later, they should have found out BEFORE she moved into social housing. It takes a long time to get them out better to do a complete check before they move in. Sounds simple and I don't understand how people get away with so much fraud.
We spend about 10 times as much investigating benefit fraud than we do tax fraud, even though tax fraud costs the country infinitely more. Swindle the country out of 40k benefits, you get 10 years. Swindle millions in tax and you get a slap on the wrist. Hmm, I wonder why?
Because the people who you say ‘swindle tax’ create thousands of jobs and billions in wealth, a positive sum game, as opposed to real thieves who steal benefits. At least the rich create wealth…, they actually contribute not just take take take, me me me.
@@HumansAreShitFactories You absolute plank. So you think that because someone is rich then the law shoulodm´t apply to them. And no, not all tax dodgers create jobs or wealth.
@@HumansAreShitFactories Possibly the stupidest answer I´ll read today. They are stealing vast sums from the country. STEALING. Your argument is that the rich should be allowed to steal, but fail to understand that they are not contributing because they aren´t paying tax, and many of them pay so little that their employees don´t have to pay tax either.
I had to spend a year living in a homeless hostel with 2 small children in 1 room before i got my council flat Still live here but I know quite a lot of people rent out their council place out and still claim housing benefit disgusting
Why do these councils not check the applications? It seems there must be many many more frauds if they simply take the applications at face value and only verify income, property owned. I don't get it.
Why the heck do they allow these properties to be sold instead of keeping them turning over as people die/move on etc. It's ridiculous. Not everyone need to own their homes.
Because they can then use that money to build 2 more homes at cost with government contractors. Everyone wins. That tenant has a home and won't need housing. 2 more applicants get a home. Honestly people are really stupid.
@@sunwukong5413if this were true there would be a budget and stock surplus. But it is not. In fact social care costs which includes housing is the sole cause of council insolvency across the U.K.
They’re all acting like the heroes who came to save taxpayers’s money and to give these houses to deserving people when it’s their own failings that have caused the problem in the first place… the real crackdown is on these councils failings. Wrong allocation of resources and costly investigations and costly legal actions that are completely pointless since there’s no punishment and no money compensated
I agree 👍 with you because it shows that they are not truly working there and that they are not capable of being in social worker. They are wasting the resources we need and are not heros they need to be held responsible.
That council house in the village in Worcester is one of the most beautiful social houses I’ve ever seen! It’s makes you wonder why other councils make such ugly looking homes? Even now where I live, new social housing is being built- which is good given the great need for it - but I’ve never seen such unattractive looking houses. Thrown up quickly, causing those who’ve already moved in to some a never ending list of considerable issues, but also again ‘marking’ them as ‘council houses’. Even today, in early 2023, some people, particularly kids, who we all know can be cruel, pick on and mock people who live on and in council areas.
Historically council houses/estates had a bad reputation of looking like shit, but these days I’ve seen some beautiful council/social housing properties. There are new builds across me, some were brought, some were given out as social housing. You wouldn’t be able to tell that they were ‘council houses’ beautiful modern homes with nice driveway and front garden
how come all of these are discoreved after years and years, and most shocking after a tipoff call ? what are the council people actually doing there in their comfy chairs in the offices? other than waiting for the day to finish and get their payments in their accounts? i would love to see a series made with all these brainless workers and their massive innactivity errors and ignorance done.
If the tenant is evicted there should be cause in contact or judgement that if the property is damaged the previous tenants can be charged. I know of some properties today that when the tenants move out of pass away, it will cost councils thousands to renovate to standard.
What i dont get is why councils dont do checks BEFORE handing out benefits and houses. If i apply for any help where I live my actual financial details will be assessed. Its not enough to say you earn something or say you dont own a home. It will be checked, and housing benefits will be checked every single month and what you get depends in that months income.
Idk how to feel about this one. It was his daughter, who they stated was a single mom of at least 2 kids. She is probably one of the ppl who DID need the help. And the neighbors are all emotional and giving statements like it was a house full of drug addicted squatters punching holes in walls and throwing broken couches in the backyard to bring rats and roaches. Yes it was against the rules, but everyone acted like a serial killer was living there. The neighbor is crying for godsakes. Nothing bad must ever happen in that village.
I was going to comment the same. Not only that, but they also said her father's dad had lived there, then her father, yet at the beginning of the program they mentioned that people who grew up there can't afford to buy a property there so there's need for council properties. So in essence, they had a family for at least 3 generations living there, the 3rd being a single mum who I'm guessing was bought up in that house, then they kick her out, to house someone who 'needs it and deserves it' whilst the single mum will probably go back into the system to find another house in the same area. The hugs and the tears at the end were pathetic. "Yay I'm crying tears of joy because we've made a single mother and children homeless, so we can find a single homeless mum and children a home, yay, go us!"
The lady with children who took over her Fathers property and was paying rent will now like be in temporary accommodation costing vast amounts of money waiting for priority housing! Result not 🤔
Bearing in mind that single people are way down the list of those applicants with priority for social housing , I wonder how the thousands of foreigners, mostly young men, coming daily across from France will come on that list
In all cases, they should have to repay every penny, then pay back 100% more in community service work at the theoretical minimum wage. So you steal 10 grand, you pay it back then do 1000 hours of work on top. This means that the council would have progressively more resources as they found these people.
I am confused, people in my street live in Council houses yet they have high end cars, Range Rovers, Porche etc, and have now got good jobs, Are they supposed to declare this now and find private property ? IMHO they should but what does the Council say
The loss of council properties to fraudsters in the last 40 years is roughly 10% of the £110 billion the Tories gave to their cronies for PPE. It is 25% of the £37 billion spent on the first and useless track and trace app.
I thought the council would do a land registry check of all the applicants. Surely they aren't going to charge themselves the 3 odd quid per applicant :s
How hard is it to check if somebody already owns a property. I hope the team who approved her home was punished as well. Property fraud should be immediate jailtime
MY sincere apologies, criminals should be really punished, charged for the damage have they done for society and prison sentence, sending off to Rwanda is going far, BUT..
This type of crime is being looked at completely wrong, it is what is stated A CRIME, all these non custodial sentences is sending out the WRONG MESSAGE, take them to court and give custodial sentences also take away other properties they own and give them to the councils to put onto their social housing. These lazy criminals are just looking for an easy way to earn money without working for it, I feel (like many others) that heavier custodial and finantual
12 months that’s it? Well no wonder people cheat. Basically no punishment. It should be at least five years plus payback off all the money she’s taken. Unbelievable.
People like that want to live in social housing so their rent is cheap and affordable, they have hardly any bills to pay with their income, then with all their money they make that the housing council doesnt know about they can drive nice expensive cars, buy all kinds of name brand clothes and jewelry, electronics etc..they wana live the best life possible with all the amazing material items but pay little as possible..SMH ..disgusting ..i would be embarrassed
The fact none seem to go to jail tells people, have a go, you will not end up prison so whats the worst that can happen? They take money from your free money in future..
I live in the US, however, if hubby wants a divorce, I will do whatever it takes to become an english resident, so that I can be entitled to free housing! These people make me sick! How dare they act like they are entitled to live in a great home, etc... grrr! just makes me so angry!
We have section 8 and HUD home's. When you get an approval for a HUD home you only have to do some community service and help with building or remodeling the home. Afterwards it's yours, you own it. We have a very abundant social welfare system here in the U.S., its harder to get away with these scams here as well.
But you gave the property to Angella Brown, so that SHE could start again, move up, etc. So how do you know the new people aren't doing the same thing?
As long as the council are getting their rent what’s the problem? Seems like a lot of effort when they’re getting the rent anyway. TBF who cares who lives there as long as they’re getting rent?
Yeah I agree, when I watch these things I can't get my head around the fact someone has the nerve to do that kind of thing, well I can cos some people just dont care but like it baffles me, me personally I think whatever you owe you should pay every penny back plus fees, but no one ever has to pay every penny back its only ever pennies they are made to pay back which drives me mad
You make it so easy for people to take advantage and create fraud and when caught you give them a slap on the wrist with these stupid little fines you don’t give them any real prison time which is what they need and they’re laughing at you all the way through the court system because they know nothing bad is really going to happen to them you’re a joke. You talk a good game but you lack any follow through in fact we’re all laughing at you.
Simple solution. Do an annual means test of all income for individuals at the address. I mean the government already knows what they earn. If over the threshold, out they go.
@Samantha Campbell Every time anyone wants to rent a property privately, they have to go through credit checks, referencing, provide banks statements etc. That is also intrusive but people do it because they have to. Why should it be different for council tenants? Maybe not every year, but at least at the beginning, and maybe a check-in every few years.
The councils should do more checks when they give keys willy nilly I’ve been homeless for 6months with my blind mother the council turned me down laughed in my face it weren’t till my mum was on her deathbed with lung collapse diabetic failure that they offered temporary accommodation for 1 day absolute scum i had to wait 3 years before i got sick to get a home that I have to work and pay for that i got help
I can not believe how many scum bags there are out there committing fraud to benefit their crooked lifestyles. And when caught how little of a punishment they get. These scumbags whether they are single or a couple need to have a heavy sentence including losing custody of their kids. And they should receive a 30 year prison sentence. You and I know damn well they will pull this same crap once they get out of prison.
I think you should go and seek help with your anger, 30 years in prison? Losing their kids? More than the vast majority of sex offender's and murderers? Bro get help...
@@Luton-Mick Sorry but I do not have a anger problem but I do have a problem with people that commit fraud. Plus I have a huge problem that are sex offender's and murderers. Those type of people need capital punishment.
Not everyone who lives in a council house is on benefits...Council housing does not instantly= benefits ( I'm a housing officer not a council tenant just fyi)
@@savannahserwah7223 Thanks for giving more insight. Time for me to do more research so I fully understand. Where I live subsidized housing is rent geared to income. Rent is 1\3 of all income regardless if one is on assistance or not. Thanks again for your comment. Cheers.
6th one of these I have watched in a row and the message is very clear. Crime pays.
It always does
@@MartinU-yl6yfhas
Yep. Get caught cheating the system, hand the keys back, walk away and keep your illegal profits. Sweet Deal! 🏠
These council clowns need to be fired and billed for all this waste. How do you not do simple checks on someone when thye apply for a council house? Incredible levels of incompetence.
Unfortunately councils don't have regular access to most of the records they use for these investigations. Getting them is a long process. The British public has been very hostile to centralised record keeping every time it's been proposed.
No wonder these grifters and scammers have totally taken over in the UK. The council is asleep at the wheel and the grifter leeches are one step ahead.
What you hope might happen would probably double the cost, more checks, more people, more salaries. They do checks but obviously they are not on your doorstep for a month just in case you lied.
@@anyexpatyou can't hide your salary though so still not sure what checks they're actually doing.
Do they not have inspections every 3 months like normal rentals ?
People who do this should be ordered to pay back every penny. Plus the cost of the investigation. If any work has to be done to the property. Cost to remove any illegal tenants. No more how long it would take. Also the debt can't be wiped out by bankruptcy or anything else. Prison doesn't really work. But hitting people in there pocket book might. Housing councils also need to investigate the people getting these homes. Check they don't own other properties. See if they own a business. Check bank accounts. Get prof of income.
Desperate action after they had already committed fraud for years and years.
And blacklisted from applying to a obtain a coucil house
"We've been one step ahead of her..." says the man that took over 2 years to figure out he was being bent over and forced to take it along with his system
😂😂😂 Never a shortage of irony in these.
Because we like to listen to the lies
And without the tip off they wouldn't have known.
@@Autonomous1969 perhaps they were getting back handers
@@casper9373 They should offer rewards to whistle blowers.
@@Autonomous1969 thats so very true
I don't understand why they don't check all this out, BEFORE giving her a home
Yea the same question surprises me too.
Yea in the US you have to provide like 10 years of financial history get independent affidavits from your employers etc
@@trishriederer1857 oh wow I didnt know that, 10 years though like that could be page after page after page surely
Incompetence, laziness and fear of the R word
Exactly! You can't blame the scammers when the council make it so easy.
£700 a month to drive a car, wages of 92k a year !!! Angela Brown needs locking up. The £700 is easily many people's monthly rent or mortgage.
Nahh the government takes more from the the working class then Angela brown ever would have taken
what is even more dusgusting is people buying these counclie houses, then renting them for 5x sometimes 10xs the price
Some of them are rented back to the very council that they were bought from.
I imagine thousands of fake council house applications led to them buying the house 3 years later. These will never be investigated
Nothing wrong with that as the person now owns the property
The council don't practice due diligence I see..they should have done all these checks in the first place
what really makes me mad is not just the fraud going on but the sheer bloody stupidity of these council workers they dont deserve their jobs
I am just blown away. The one i just watched had this lady who had a council house for 19 YEARS! Never once did anyone check on her or the house. Meanwhile, she wasnt even living there...but her cats were and the house was destroyed. It was filled with everything you would expect from a house full of cats. A 3 bedroom, with a garden. A family could have used that home. How they thought not following up at least yearly is beyond me. She did get sentenced to prison but i doubt she served her full sentence. Also, maybe verify all the info BEFORE handing over keys and giving them money?? So crazy it just might work.
Uh yeah...everyone can agree that tenancy fraud is serious and widespread. Everyone except the Courts, apparently. Extensive, calculated fraud gets a fine. And given that it was a council employee *should* have been an aggravating circumstance calling for even a higher level of punishment.
Yes, it does not seem that the perpetrators get much of a punishment. I doubt that Angela Brown served more than a few months in prison and I am sure that she did not pay back much, if any, of the money.
The small fine basically made the fraud profitable for them even though they got caught. Absolutely disgraceful. The fine should amount to all profits made (or cost saved) and then some at the very least.
Both should be barred from social housing for life also.
I rent a home and I have an inspection every 3 months. Why do they not do the same in housing rentals?
Because they pretty much class it as your own home I have a council flat keep it tidy and clean and I can pretty much do as I like with it.
@@chriswilloughby5295 as long as you pay rent on time most council/social housing associations will never bother you
I agree tho . I am a tenant with Dudley MBC and they have a shocking process to housing inspections. Alot of people never have one for over 10 years.
Unbelievable that the council did not check this woman out before the give her a property. If the could find out 2 years later, they should have found out BEFORE she moved into social housing. It takes a long time to get them out better to do a complete check before they move in. Sounds simple and I don't understand how people get away with so much fraud.
If punishment were more severe and full restitution of all monies gained by that fraud were required, maybe less fraud would occur.
Agree totally
why the hell doesn/t the council carry out these simple checks like credit ,bank etc prior to giving them house ffs
Exactly
We spend about 10 times as much investigating benefit fraud than we do tax fraud, even though tax fraud costs the country infinitely more. Swindle the country out of 40k benefits, you get 10 years. Swindle millions in tax and you get a slap on the wrist. Hmm, I wonder why?
Because the people who you say ‘swindle tax’ create thousands of jobs and billions in wealth, a positive sum game, as opposed to real thieves who steal benefits. At least the rich create wealth…, they actually contribute not just take take take, me me me.
@@HumansAreShitFactories You absolute plank. So you think that because someone is rich then the law shoulodm´t apply to them. And no, not all tax dodgers create jobs or wealth.
@@HumansAreShitFactories Possibly the stupidest answer I´ll read today. They are stealing vast sums from the country. STEALING. Your argument is that the rich should be allowed to steal, but fail to understand that they are not contributing because they aren´t paying tax, and many of them pay so little that their employees don´t have to pay tax either.
@@HumansAreShitFactories
Your argument is both weak and wrong on its face. Which makes you you you wrong wrong wrong.
I had to spend a year living in a homeless hostel with 2 small children in 1 room before i got my council flat
Still live here but I know quite a lot of people rent out their council place out and still claim housing benefit disgusting
Why do these councils not check the applications? It seems there must be many many more frauds if they simply take the applications at face value and only verify income, property owned. I don't get it.
Why the heck do they allow these properties to be sold instead of keeping them turning over as people die/move on etc. It's ridiculous. Not everyone need to own their homes.
Because they can then use that money to build 2 more homes at cost with government contractors. Everyone wins. That tenant has a home and won't need housing. 2 more applicants get a home. Honestly people are really stupid.
@@sunwukong5413 Not true, as they sell them at a massive discount. Trying building 2 homes with 50 grand, good luck
@@sunwukong5413if this were true there would be a budget and stock surplus. But it is not.
In fact social care costs which includes housing is the sole cause of council insolvency across the U.K.
They’re all acting like the heroes who came to save taxpayers’s money and to give these houses to deserving people when it’s their own failings that have caused the problem in the first place… the real crackdown is on these councils failings. Wrong allocation of resources and costly investigations and costly legal actions that are completely pointless since there’s no punishment and no money compensated
100% agree
I agree 👍 with you because it shows that they are not truly working there and that they are not capable of being in social worker. They are wasting the resources we need and are not heros they need to be held responsible.
Agree 💯
If the council doesn’t due their diligence in checking registers prior to offering a council flat….. shame on them
I agree. They investigate AFTER the fraud 🤔
That council house in the village in Worcester is one of the most beautiful social houses I’ve ever seen! It’s makes you wonder why other councils make such ugly looking homes? Even now where I live, new social housing is being built- which is good given the great need for it - but I’ve never seen such unattractive looking houses. Thrown up quickly, causing those who’ve already moved in to some a never ending list of considerable issues, but also again ‘marking’ them as ‘council houses’. Even today, in early 2023, some people, particularly kids, who we all know can be cruel, pick on and mock people who live on and in council areas.
Historically council houses/estates had a bad reputation of looking like shit, but these days I’ve seen some beautiful council/social housing properties. There are new builds across me, some were brought, some were given out as social housing. You wouldn’t be able to tell that they were ‘council houses’ beautiful modern homes with nice driveway and front garden
Thank you, your uploads are appreciated :)
These people do this because they know nothing will happen to them. They don't even have to pay back the money.
I don’t understand why, in 21st century with all the technology, the cross check information required to approve a request is not connected.
That lady should be made to repay all benefits received plus interest along with a big fine.
how come all of these are discoreved after years and years, and most shocking after a tipoff call ? what are the council people actually doing there in their comfy chairs in the offices? other than waiting for the day to finish and get their payments in their accounts? i would love to see a series made with all these brainless workers and their massive innactivity errors and ignorance done.
In reality all the council care about is if the rent is being paid on time. If rent is being paid, they most likely will never visit the property
Watching this sh*t on their phones probably.
If the tenant is evicted there should be cause in contact or judgement that if the property is damaged the previous tenants can be charged. I know of some properties today that when the tenants move out of pass away, it will cost councils thousands to renovate to standard.
What i dont get is why councils dont do checks BEFORE handing out benefits and houses. If i apply for any help where I live my actual financial details will be assessed. Its not enough to say you earn something or say you dont own a home. It will be checked, and housing benefits will be checked every single month and what you get depends in that months income.
Except for housing benefit, everything else can pretty much be falsified when applying
Idk how to feel about this one. It was his daughter, who they stated was a single mom of at least 2 kids. She is probably one of the ppl who DID need the help.
And the neighbors are all emotional and giving statements like it was a house full of drug addicted squatters punching holes in walls and throwing broken couches in the backyard to bring rats and roaches.
Yes it was against the rules, but everyone acted like a serial killer was living there. The neighbor is crying for godsakes. Nothing bad must ever happen in that village.
I was going to comment the same. Not only that, but they also said her father's dad had lived there, then her father, yet at the beginning of the program they mentioned that people who grew up there can't afford to buy a property there so there's need for council properties. So in essence, they had a family for at least 3 generations living there, the 3rd being a single mum who I'm guessing was bought up in that house, then they kick her out, to house someone who 'needs it and deserves it' whilst the single mum will probably go back into the system to find another house in the same area. The hugs and the tears at the end were pathetic. "Yay I'm crying tears of joy because we've made a single mother and children homeless, so we can find a single homeless mum and children a home, yay, go us!"
“Yes it was against the rules”….. end of conversation
The lady with children who took over her Fathers property and was paying rent will now like be in temporary accommodation costing vast amounts of money waiting for priority housing! Result not 🤔
Bearing in mind that single people are way down the list of those applicants with priority for social housing , I wonder how the thousands of foreigners, mostly young men, coming daily across from France will come on that list
The council is mostly to blame - they should do their checks on applicants more carefully.
Fast forward 2024 am sure all these loop holes have been fixed
Why isn't there a back ground check done at the time of the application?
I love how they still use cassette tapes 😅
Do the politicians get investigated for this as well?
Did see a post about a lady from Turkey who was an illegal immigrant who applied for a council house and disability benefits and got refused.
In all cases, they should have to repay every penny, then pay back 100% more in community service work at the theoretical minimum wage. So you steal 10 grand, you pay it back then do 1000 hours of work on top. This means that the council would have progressively more resources as they found these people.
What did they mean by "She was paying 700 pounds a month for the privilege of driving that car"? Is that how much she pays for the car note?
The car was on finance and that’s how much the monthly repayments was on the car
I was thinking it was a lease
I am confused, people in my street live in Council houses yet they have high end cars, Range Rovers, Porche etc, and have now got good jobs, Are they supposed to declare this now and find private property ? IMHO they should but what does the Council say
How the duck can a council give a house without proper check of the person?
The loss of council properties to fraudsters in the last 40 years is roughly 10% of the £110 billion the Tories gave to their cronies for PPE. It is 25% of the £37 billion spent on the first and useless track and trace app.
It’s literally mind blowing these sums are hard to fathom…
I thought the council would do a land registry check of all the applicants. Surely they aren't going to charge themselves the 3 odd quid per applicant :s
How hard is it to check if somebody already owns a property. I hope the team who approved her home was punished as well. Property fraud should be immediate jailtime
Why doesn't the council do the checking the moment there is an application?
How about cracking down on the council for neglectful maintenance and cronic disrepairs?
I live in Sandwell and it's not the first time people have been trying to obtain council housing illegally
MY sincere apologies, criminals should be really punished, charged for the damage have they done for society and prison sentence, sending off to Rwanda is going far, BUT..
This type of crime is being looked at completely wrong, it is what is stated A CRIME, all these non custodial sentences is sending out the WRONG MESSAGE, take them to court and give custodial sentences also take away other properties they own and give them to the councils to put onto their social housing. These lazy criminals are just looking for an easy way to earn money without working for it, I feel (like many others) that heavier custodial and finantual
12 months that’s it? Well no wonder people cheat. Basically no punishment. It should be at least five years plus payback off all the money she’s taken. Unbelievable.
People like that want to live in social housing so their rent is cheap and affordable, they have hardly any bills to pay with their income, then with all their money they make that the housing council doesnt know about they can drive nice expensive cars, buy all kinds of name brand clothes and jewelry, electronics etc..they wana live the best life possible with all the amazing material items but pay little as possible..SMH ..disgusting ..i would be embarrassed
Working on a case for 5 years! Wtheck. Ridiculous. Fraud should be handled swiftly. This is public money.
I heard that these investigations that all lead to prosecution always win…and the defendant never wins…that’s a pretty good success I’d say.
The fact none seem to go to jail tells people, have a go, you will not end up prison so whats the worst that can happen? They take money from your free money in future..
I live in the US, however, if hubby wants a divorce, I will do whatever it takes to become an english resident, so that I can be entitled to free housing! These people make me sick! How dare they act like they are entitled to live in a great home, etc... grrr! just makes me so angry!
We care about the poor people but yanks do not.
@@fionagregory9376 lol n yet u have a lot of poverty compared to ur population. May be less caring be better for them
We have section 8 and HUD home's. When you get an approval for a HUD home you only have to do some community service and help with building or remodeling the home. Afterwards it's yours, you own it. We have a very abundant social welfare system here in the U.S., its harder to get away with these scams here as well.
Go to France buy a dinghy
I want to watch a series where people crack down on the big fish.
Unbelievable how they just take their word for it and say ,” here’s the 🔑” can’t believe a word they say! It’s too easy for these crooks!
I would abolish full housing benefit because people don't look after the properties if they don't have to pay nothing in rent
So they can do a simple check on her 2 years later? Why not when she applied?! They dont desrve their jobs, letting the public down massively
It’s about time the government connected banks/ any financial institutions with company house/ mortgages and benefit systems
So you can just tell the council that you're homeless and poor and they don't even check on it before giving you a house?
But you gave the property to Angella Brown, so that SHE could start again, move up, etc. So how do you know the new people aren't doing the same thing?
As long as the council are getting their rent what’s the problem? Seems like a lot of effort when they’re getting the rent anyway.
TBF who cares who lives there as long as they’re getting rent?
Miss kadesha, should have went to jail, just like the other lady, especially because she knew better
Yeah I agree, when I watch these things I can't get my head around the fact someone has the nerve to do that kind of thing, well I can cos some people just dont care but like it baffles me, me personally I think whatever you owe you should pay every penny back plus fees, but no one ever has to pay every penny back its only ever pennies they are made to pay back which drives me mad
should have gone
BUY your own House and stop having children you can’t afford to support dont rely on HANDOUTS
"We were one step ahead of her all the way through this interview", pity you were 100 steps behind her for the previous 10 years.
I guess these people don't think they will ever get caught lol
Michelle Ackley ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Council workers, smokes weed and alcoholics ALL
Born and bread in Worcestershire ❤😂
I think the family from the village were bad neighbours as well. My dad was from semi rural Worcestershire, Droitwich in the 1920s-1930s.
I know people who have not worked a single day and can now buy a 2million pound house for a Massive discount
Angela Brown - 12 months in jail, an absolute scandal because she will only serve 6 months.
This will be on her criminal record and can hinder her job prospects so she might not get the same type of job after.
You make it so easy for people to take advantage and create fraud and when caught you give them a slap on the wrist with these stupid little fines you don’t give them any real prison time which is what they need and they’re laughing at you all the way through the court system because they know nothing bad is really going to happen to them you’re a joke. You talk a good game but you lack any follow through in fact we’re all laughing at you.
Do these criminals have to pay back monies stolen?
I live in sandwell and its not that bad
incompetent councils allowing this to happen, ridiculous
Fines will be less than she earned. Sounds like a good business.
Watched a few of these, the prison sentences are very short.
Hate people like this. We have same problem here in America they hurt people who definitely need put all in jail
Between my husband and I we were working 4 jobs and still couldn't get any help. You have to be on drugs or an acholic.
I would always be waiting for the knock on the door if I was one of these cheaters..
Anyone find it odd that this has clearly been ripped and will be making money about a show regarding fraud..
Mortgage means death pledge in French and it is a vile thing. Social housing is better.
Social housing is vile because it steals money from workers, and subsidies shirkers.
Owning your own is better than allowing the state to own your life. What's wrong with you?
@@naelyneurkopfen9741 laziness
How was this man allowed to escape prosecution . CRAP COUNCIL COST THE TAX PAYER THOUSANDS
Simple solution. Do an annual means test of all income for individuals at the address. I mean the government already knows what they earn. If over the threshold, out they go.
@Samantha Campbell Every time anyone wants to rent a property privately, they have to go through credit checks, referencing, provide banks statements etc. That is also intrusive but people do it because they have to. Why should it be different for council tenants? Maybe not every year, but at least at the beginning, and maybe a check-in every few years.
Simply ridiculous. Council staff are the ones to be blamed.
Criminals in the council. Require a behavior and lie dector testing before any hire.
The councils should do more checks when they give keys willy nilly I’ve been homeless for 6months with my blind mother the council turned me down laughed in my face it weren’t till my mum was on her deathbed with lung collapse diabetic failure that they offered temporary accommodation for 1 day absolute scum i had to wait 3 years before i got sick to get a home that I have to work and pay for that i got help
What’s the point in taking the house off the guy who’s daughter and her family moved into to give to another family in need?
I think the system is to benefit everyone not one family line.
@@silkskinz you can’t fix homelessness with homelessness.
The system isn’t there to benefit anyone but the system.
Except they were trying to buy the property at a discount by fraud. Hardly someone who needs assistance.
@@ghuldeen Who the father or the family that were living in there? I recall that being the father who asked to buy.
@@LateBloomingND But he didn't live there.
18:55 she is clearly telling the truth. I hope your doing well Angela ❤️ the council let you down 😭
Council housing should only be for 5 years and then be returned
Michelle is fit😀
Reduced rent and life time housing why ever buy a house
300 p fine, guess they showed her.... ridiculous how about 3 years in jail.
I can not believe how many scum bags there are out there committing fraud to benefit their crooked lifestyles. And when caught how little of a punishment they get. These scumbags whether they are single or a couple need to have a heavy sentence including losing custody of their kids. And they should receive a 30 year prison sentence. You and I know damn well they will pull this same crap once they get out of prison.
shut up fool
Lol alright mate
I think you should go and seek help with your anger, 30 years in prison? Losing their kids? More than the vast majority of sex offender's and murderers? Bro get help...
@@Luton-Mick Sorry but I do not have a anger problem but I do have a problem with people that commit fraud. Plus I have a huge problem that are sex offender's and murderers. Those type of people need capital punishment.
WTF - this is mindboggling. Right to purchase makes zero sense. If someone can afford to purchase a home why are they on benefits.
Not everyone who lives in a council house is on benefits...Council housing does not instantly= benefits ( I'm a housing officer not a council tenant just fyi)
@@savannahserwah7223 Thanks for giving more insight. Time for me to do more research so I fully understand.
Where I live subsidized housing is rent geared to income. Rent is 1\3 of all income regardless if one is on assistance or not.
Thanks again for your comment.
Cheers.
funny thing is its none of theirt houses / homes they dont own it
Wit all this fraud why doesn't the council do a check up at least 2 a yr
Hopefully none of the cheats will ever be able to obtain any social services again.
12 months in prison is a joke. Disgraceful sentence.
Remember she will also be without her daughter and have a criminal record, which will hinder her job opportunities in the future.
@@racheal203612 months mean 3 months in reality and 3 months on probation. She won’t be compelled to pay back the money
Do. A. Land. Registry. Search. For. Everyone. Ooooooooooooobviously!!!!!
crazy and 😢