However for those that have excess money we want the 7760 plus the amp since 200watts may not be enough and several other new radios in case we get bored with the 7760
There was a lot of work put into this radio, but I think the effort is more symbolic than trying to make a profitable product. As the retail sales manager at DX Engineering said to me, why would you spend $1000 on an 8 year old IC-7300? ICOM should’ve spent more time to come up with a follow up to the IC-7300. I think even if they could combine the 7100 and 7300 into a similar head-rf unit configuration at the lower price point that would be attractive for hams wanting to upgrade to second tier.
Exactly this. They appear to be happy to let Yaesu run away with the more accessible end of the market, which is odd after how massive the impact of the 7300 was. Maybe they’re working on a follow up, who knows.. 73 M0EUK
The only thing I don't understand is that the Elecraft K4 has HDMI and it costs half as much as this radio afaik. This leads me to believe that the licensing is not the reason icom didn't do HDMI.
I'll stick with DVI-D. A much more robust connector. That's why the US military still uses DVI-D, durability. The HDMI connectors are just plain fragile.
One of the reasons I went with the ftdx101D and not the 7610 earlier this year, was fit and finish. The FTdx101D just has a more premium look and feel, knobs are not sloppy and no piano black. Looking at the plastic look on this radio and the need for a cheap plastic stand for the head is depressing for that price point. I’m sure from a functionality perspective this thing is very capable, but for me it’s the total package and at that price it needs to provide a very premium experience… just my opinion. 73s.
The 169.x.x.x ip address you got on the main unit indicates that it didn't get an IP address. Many computer operating systems will do that. As for the radio, that is an impressive set of specs. 4 antenna inputs with a separate input for a receive antenna. It would be quite the radio station setup that can fully take advantage of everything the IC-7760 offers.
The issue with the VPN is a network problem, not a radio problem. As stated in the comments before, the RF deck is not getting an IP address on the network that it is plugged in to. That would tell us that there isn't a DHCP server on that network or the switch port the deck is connected to is not configured properly. Once the networking is sorted out the settings on the control head can be configured at the "Connection from Different Segment" section of the Network Settings. You would manually set the IP address for the controller there so each device knows the address of the other.
Very similar to my 7700 but moved all the way into SDR. I can't believe that Icom didn't dedicate a 12 volt plug to power the head from the main deck. The 7700 has a 12 volt receptor on the back of the radio.
Thanks for the great preview. ICOM continues to expand their line of XCVRs based on the IC-7300 initial design. I suspect any follow up to the IC 7100 will look similar with a IC-705 type head and separate power unit. (Wouldn't it be great if they could just build a new head unit for the IC7100 and continue using the existing base!)
Thank you for the great review. This seems like a very nice radio, however, I wonder if it really is worth $3000 more than the excellent Ic 7610? Can you really hear the difference in the received signals? Also, you could probably find a nice 500 W amplifier and put out a stronger signal for less than $3000. 73, wz2j
I ordered 2, one for my shack in Toorak and one for my beach house in Sydney. They have received decent reviews so decided to give them a try. My 7851s are pretty decent rigs but the Flex units are better. My second favourite is is the TS 990S. The Hilberling is good, it's a pity they stopped production. My Baofeng is number 1 favourite. It performs brilliantly and I can raise folks on it 24/7 and amazingly in some cases can pick up private networks which can lead to a lot of fun. 73s.
I was thinking the same thing!! Well, really I’m thinking why does it not have PoE? At this price point, why should there be multiple required cables to the control unit? No poe is not the end of the world, but a 15 volt barrel connector? That’s just asinine
Clearly they're going after the Kenwood TS-990 and to fill that future void as Kenwood stops production. NICE layout. Not happy with the lack of HDMI. Needs bluetooth, WiFi, logging via wireless keyboard, full digital decoder, callsigns on the waterfall (like SDRPlay). A lot of box where all the eggs are under one cover and when it has an issue, I can hear the cries just by opening my window. Again, nice rig, but missing several targets IMO. Perfect for "the man who has everything" but not the typical operator. Bankers will love selling loans so hams can buy it. You are most fortunate to have a demo for review. Keep up the great work! 73 OM
The ARP broadcast asking for which machine has which IP should only be done if the other node is on the same subnet, otherwise the packet should be sent directly to the gateway. Maybe there’s a bug that tried to reach the RF deck on the same subnet even though it’s set up to be on another one? If static IP can be assigned to the RF deck that may help, but only if the network interface stays on when it’s in standby and waits for an IP packet addressed to it to signal it to wake up, rather than relying on wake on lan or anything like that that uses broadcasts.
You did a good review considering what you had to work with. But man oh man this is not what one would expect from Icom as their flagship radio. Dated technology, missing a fair few modern features available in other current radios. Big, heavy, awkward and it doesn't work over the internet as promised. Well, it probably does, but it should be plug and play with minimal set up to get it working totally remote. Otherwise why bother when there are several third party options that make any of Icoms network capable radios work remotely. If I did have the money and property full of antennas, I would only get this particular radio if it was remote plug and play so that I could have the remote head anywhere including over wifi and mobile/portable with a hotspot connection.
you may have already answered this but I'll ask anyways because i missed it. Is the deck/head unit casing a composite plastic type material or is it metalIt looked composite?
@@RoelandJansen It's not, and that's why capacitive touch screens are used by Elecraft (K4), Flexradio, ANAN G2 and on all smartphones. Only obvious reason Icom insists on using resistive touch screens is the (trivial) lower cost.
I like the radio a lot but for the price of this radio; and you only get 200 watts, I think it's a bit overpriced at $6,000.00 U.S. unless 200 watts is good enough for you and you have good gain on your antenna. I hope ICOM comes out with a 100 watt version of this radio and cuts the price in half. I'd rater pay around $3,000.00 U.S. for this radio and put the other $3,000.00+ or more in a nice amplifier to have more than 200 watts to play with. But this is just my opinion. On another note, will the main unit that houses the power supply, will it control one or more rotors through the dock?
The remote head not having PoE seems like a bit of a miss. The transceiver unit is mains powered... so providing PoE out (or using any PoE switch in the middle) would be simple. It's $0.25 more in cost... money they could have saved by not having an AC wall wart.
@@yeahimnotcoolthat’s a very good point. Power sending common mode ripple compliance between 0-1Mhz can be problematic in PSE design and this unit is already producing tons of RF.
What do you do when you operate the RF Deck remotely with the Controller in a different location....invest in a PoE switch? Best to have the seperate wall wart, in my opinion. Can use anywhere.
I operated my 7610 remotely with SDR-Control. I was really interested in your review and the remote operation was not encouraging. Maybe it will change with time.
You can do layer 2 over the internet but you need software like Zerotier. It is the same challenge the Flex guys have working remote over a WAN. It will be interesting to see if it actually does remote over a WAN including CW without the need for 3rd party software.
@@stargazer7644 What did you think Falling off a truck means? It typically means someone stole it, or otherwise it probably wouldn't have come with a manual. I get it, it's ok, humor can be hard for some especially when it can have multiple meanings. Have a nice day.
The fact that PoE is not supported sucks (one cable less). Can you do duplex? (I mean hear frequency on which you currently transmit - radio knows what it is transmitting and could subtract that signal from second receiver connected to second antenna, in theory). Base unit is SOOO loud on this video (hard to say how microphone picks that up but having that under the desk wouldn't be welcome; and no - can't put it anywhere else as all feeders ends up here). 169.254 are APIPA addresses (so looks like it is not getting IPs from DHCP).
The 169.254.x.x address is assigned when the NIC on the device doesn't find a DHCP controller to assign it an IP address. It's fairly useless. What that tells me is either the remote head has to tell the base to pick up an IP. I'm guessing there is probably a setting we're all missing to let the base get it's own IP address or something. Or that the device can't truly be remote from it's home network, although if Icom says it should be able to do that then it must be something silly, or, since it's a demo unit, Icom disabled the feature. Isn't networking fun? :D
@@stargazer7644 I'm going out on a limb and saying it's just the base not picking up addresses via DHCP, especially when it picks up an IP fine with the remote head attached. I'm not familiar with Icom firmware but if it were me attempting to troubleshoot I'd put the unit into the router via the MAC address and have the router assign a static IP. You can then leave the base to pick up via DHCP. Or alternatively you can hard program an IP into the base if that's an option. But I'll stand by my statement and say it's likely something silly like a missed setting, or Icom disabled the feature on the demo unit.
@@stargazer7644 You didn't watch the whole video or missed it...he said the device worked fine from the remote shack with the head attached: Getting an IP when the remote head is attached. (23:54) He said all he did differently was attach the head and it worked fine.
Someone mentioned in the comments that it could be a firmware bug. So the RF deck gets a DHCP address when the RF controller on the same physical network tells it to wake up etc... I can see that in the router. But when the RF deck goes to sleep - so does the NIC in the RF deck, which is weird
Mike that's exactly what I do in my configurations as you mention. Assign a static IP in the router and not on the device itself. In this case, I did both on the RF deck - didn't work. The control head was fine though.
Early look obviously but kind of a confusing product. It looks like a kenwood...kind of. Kenwood looks better but they probably are on the way out. Guess everything is a menu or two down to get access. Kind of like a flex radio but not as "flexible". For the price (like almost half?) the mp101 gives you 200 watts (not continuous so rtty and ft8 you back it off) but you get vnc, two receivers,more physical buttons and pretty amazing receive capability (which we have not seen any data yet on that), Do like they put the rec play right on the front to remind me that Yaesu did not include that capability in the 101. This is a monster that will need some thought on where to put the part of the radio that is not part of the user experience. Hope you got a strong shelf in the basement. Do like the 4 tx/rcv and seperate rcv antenna. Nice. To be honest I hope this starts looking better soon because the 905 was kind of a thud and its been awhile since the 7300 and 705 (and Yaesu may start taking some of that with the new qrp rig). They really should have upgraded the 7300 and the 7100...the old kenwood 2000 and the aging yeasu shack in the box stuff could use replacements, especially if mobile with a remote head. I hope this is a winner if not one has to wonder where Icom is going. By the way I have a shack full of Icom stuff....I want them to succeed. If this is any idea on pricing, wonder how close (or more) to $10k range its going to be for the ps2 amp.
The 169 address you saw means it wasn't able to get a DHCP address. Seems like the head was still trying to give the RF deck one. If it can't work over a Layer 3 VPN (IP Based) you may be able to get it to work using a L2TP (Layer 2 tunneling protocol) type VPN which works at Layer 2...Ethernet layer...and would make the head and deck think they are on the same LAN. Then it would just be a latency over the WAN test to see if it works remotely
Yeah it's too bad I don't have this thing longer, otherwise I'd make it work. The RF deck is being weird when it's trying to get an IP address... in short - it doesn't via DHCP. Someone else in the comments suggested it is a firmware bug, which is probably likely. In my router I can see the RF deck, but even if you give it a static address it doesn't "stick".
@@HamRadioDX When you say that you're giving it a static address, are you actually changing from DHCP on the deck to static/manually assigned or are you talking about setting a reserved IP address in your router or whatever is providing the DHCP server function? To make it easier to test if you have a router at home where you could simply setup two different subnets, one on Ethernet1 and the other on Ethernet2 as example port names and simply had default routes in each subnet to the other you wouldn't have to do the running back and forth to the remote site. If you have an old Linksys router or something like that then you could install something like OpenWRT which can do this. Just depends on what you have and how much time you have. It would be nice to know as I bet this is the biggest looming question that many have about this radio. Thanks for what you do. I enjoy your vids.
@ yeah I think that’s part of the problem because DHCP is still being used even if the router is assigning the same IP every time. I would set static IPs on the control head and RF deck with that different subnet setting enabled and try again. I’m a network engineer by the way. :-)
@@k6usy Yeah the only issue will be that the NIC goes to sleep/drops it's current IP when it's told to turn off by the control head - even locally on the same network and even when it's in the standby (not shutdown) state for remote operation. So setting a static IP won't help in that regard.... I suspect that it's a firmware bug.. my IC-7610 doesn't switch off the network card in the standby state, which is expected with a new radio that is technically still in the demo phase.
Crazy money for a 7610 on steroids. Remote head means little to most. I would have preferred to see something between the 7300 and 7610 with enhanced NR. I’ve talked to many hams on air who agree, Icom missed the mark.
@@stargazer7644 I keep hearing its due to a license fee to use HDMI format. I find that hard to believe. Fee is only 10k plus .15 per unit sold. I'd pay a little more to have real video support and not have to deal with adapters.
Very interesting stuff, it certainly looks like the base station isn't getting a DHCP lease from your club station's router. I'd love to see some proper wireshark captures from a mirrored switch port, please, if you take any then do send 'em over - so many questions! Seeing as it appears to have proper support for IPv4 routing then getting it going over a VPN should be a breeze. If it's got a complete IP stack in it and been done right then it'll be able to figure out any MTU bottlenecks too, and with the adjustable audio buffer that's all very exciting. If not then there's always nonsense like L2TP/IPSec or gretap/wireguard. Now if only I could borrow one for a couple of days and get it all worked out... ship to England Hayden? Haha 73 de M0MZF
No Teardown? Even the microphone plug is scary. Waterfall shows engineering failures just to be a bit of the pedantic side. Happy with VGA if it outputs full HD.
Новый трансивер а у него уже ручка валкодера вся поцарапана )))) Ручки болтаются когда он их крутит ))) Даже на 7300 ручки выполнены более качественно! 7000$
This sort of thing is getting far too complicated for a Ham radio transceiver. The whole idea that a radio needs to have two IP addresses just so that the two parts can speak with one another, just seems like overkill. Maybe that's just me, what's next?, it needs to have a Microsoft licence so that you can transmit? (just kidding) It is a nice looking radio, don't get me wrong, but it isn't something I would buy. Thanks for the rundown, Hayden!
Happy they stayed with the DVI-D. A much more robust connector. That's why the US military still uses DVI-D, reliability. HDMI connectors are just plain fragile.
@@HAUNTED-HAM I stock several different HDMI connectors because I have to replace a couple of them every year because they were broken. I have never replaced a DVI-D connector. The DVI-D connector is inherently more rugged by design because it is captured by a screw on either side of it like a serial or parallel port connector.
My SunSDR2dx display blows that pitiful display into the dirt. I bet the Sun hears as well or better and has a better transmit audio as the transmit bandwidth can be expanded out to 18khz and the receive out to 10Khz. Yes , the sun has no remote capability directly but you can go through a server. Mine only costs $2495.00 so I'll pass on the Icom.
@@Mr__Anon-E-Mouse so my buddy has a 7610. it will not knock out 3kh interference like my radio which has a roofing filter. all high end rigs have them. my radio has dsp filters plus a roofing filter.
I’m glad I saw this before buying it, because then I’d have to send it back. Lame speakers. No HDMI? Im not impressed with the design. At all. I’m out. Hey Yaesu. How you doin?
Unfortunately quite boring. No HDMI is forgivable - HDMI is a shi**y stnadard requiring licencing. DVI to HDMI adapters cost almost nothing. Ext display limited res is an ancient idea. I can at a stretch forgive no PoE, no USB Type C ... devices providing power via these means are often noisy, Icom controling the power supply isn't understandable here. Don't get me wrong, I'd love these options, but i think i can understand why not. A bar for a voltmeter still ??? Thanks for thinking we're 6 year olds Icom And the temperature... hot / cold.... more like a European car than a Japanese radio intended to be operated by adequately licenced users. Icom had a lead when this UI came out, but failing to keep it relevant is causing them to lag behind. And the ultimate failure... mostly pointless SDR... Appliance operators won't care, but an SDR should allow synthesis of many different signal types in the radio itself. That means generating WSPR / FT8 / JS8 / whatever other digital mode you can think ok... inside the radio itself.. not using an audio interface. Instead we're still feeding radios digital sigs like cave men.
For the price of that you can have 2 icom 7300's, a legal limit amplifier, and a tri band yagi. Just thought I would put that into perspective! haha
I agree!
However for those that have excess money we want the 7760 plus the amp since 200watts may not be enough and several other new radios in case we get bored with the 7760
@frankjankovich3512 if you need more than 200 watts, maybe you need a new antenna
@@frankjankovich3512 well then keep them in business so they can keep making good rigs! I am glad someone is buying them.
For the price of your car, you can have two bicycles, a padded seat and a beer. Everything's relative 😂😂😂
There was a lot of work put into this radio, but I think the effort is more symbolic than trying to make a profitable product. As the retail sales manager at DX Engineering said to me, why would you spend $1000 on an 8 year old IC-7300? ICOM should’ve spent more time to come up with a follow up to the IC-7300. I think even if they could combine the 7100 and 7300 into a similar head-rf unit configuration at the lower price point that would be attractive for hams wanting to upgrade to second tier.
I would buy a 7100 with a color screen all day long. It's really what we all wanted.
Exactly this. They appear to be happy to let Yaesu run away with the more accessible end of the market, which is odd after how massive the impact of the 7300 was. Maybe they’re working on a follow up, who knows.. 73 M0EUK
The 7300 is a very good product even today.. so what?
And the 7610 is 7 years old too. Is this the 7610 replacement?
This radio is currently $6300.00 That's kind of a long reach for most hams imo.
I was glad to be able to see it in person at the conference.
HDMI needs a license ($10,000.00 a year + end user license fee + logo licensing fee ) whereas DVI-D doesn’t.
The only thing I don't understand is that the Elecraft K4 has HDMI and it costs half as much as this radio afaik.
This leads me to believe that the licensing is not the reason icom didn't do HDMI.
Maybe this: HDMI is constantly evolving still, with versions requiring updates etc. Maybe Icom doesn’t want to deal with constant HDMI updating?
I'll stick with DVI-D. A much more robust connector. That's why the US military still uses DVI-D, durability. The HDMI connectors are just plain fragile.
What about Display Port?
OK makes sense, but why not use USB-C as data connection and as display adapter or even as charging port?
One of the reasons I went with the ftdx101D and not the 7610 earlier this year, was fit and finish. The FTdx101D just has a more premium look and feel, knobs are not sloppy and no piano black. Looking at the plastic look on this radio and the need for a cheap plastic stand for the head is depressing for that price point. I’m sure from a functionality perspective this thing is very capable, but for me it’s the total package and at that price it needs to provide a very premium experience… just my opinion. 73s.
$7250 unit... That is worth more than my car.
The 169.x.x.x ip address you got on the main unit indicates that it didn't get an IP address. Many computer operating systems will do that. As for the radio, that is an impressive set of specs. 4 antenna inputs with a separate input for a receive antenna. It would be quite the radio station setup that can fully take advantage of everything the IC-7760 offers.
Yeah the RF deck doesn't appear to get an IP address properly.
APIPA
The issue with the VPN is a network problem, not a radio problem. As stated in the comments before, the RF deck is not getting an IP address on the network that it is plugged in to. That would tell us that there isn't a DHCP server on that network or the switch port the deck is connected to is not configured properly. Once the networking is sorted out the settings on the control head can be configured at the "Connection from Different Segment" section of the Network Settings. You would manually set the IP address for the controller there so each device knows the address of the other.
Very similar to my 7700 but moved all the way into SDR. I can't believe that Icom didn't dedicate a 12 volt plug to power the head from the main deck. The 7700 has a 12 volt receptor on the back of the radio.
It could be a wider voltage range.. It's just it was supplied with a 15V adapter.
@@HamRadioDXit has an Ethernet port… it should have been PoE.
Then you would not be able to power it when you have the main unit in a remote location like he did at his club.
Thanks for the great preview. ICOM continues to expand their line of XCVRs based on the IC-7300 initial design. I suspect any follow up to the IC 7100 will look similar with a IC-705 type head and separate power unit. (Wouldn't it be great if they could just build a new head unit for the IC7100 and continue using the existing base!)
How wiggly are the knobs? Solid like the 7300 or sloppy like the 7610?
truly a radio for the very well off operator...
Thank you for the great review. This seems like a very nice radio, however, I wonder if it really is worth $3000 more than the excellent Ic 7610? Can you really hear the difference in the received signals? Also, you could probably find a nice 500 W amplifier and put out a stronger signal for less than $3000. 73, wz2j
I really like my 7610. I have two end fed antennas going to each port going to each ear and you hear everything. Love that radio.
I ordered 2, one for my shack in Toorak and one for my beach house in Sydney. They have received decent reviews so decided to give them a try. My 7851s are pretty decent rigs but the Flex units are better. My second favourite is is the TS 990S. The Hilberling is good, it's a pity they stopped production. My Baofeng is number 1 favourite. It performs brilliantly and I can raise folks on it 24/7 and amazingly in some cases can pick up private networks which can lead to a lot of fun. 73s.
Im an icom man, but that radio at that price point does nothing for me, i'd prefer a second hand Kenwood 990
Looks like nore radio than I need, shes a big 'un.
It's very heafty! I like that it's got a decent heatsink to dissipate all that 200W FT8 goodness
2:30 15v DC in?! Not 12 volt? What the?!
First 500 repairs is when somebody plugs their 19V laptop p/s.
I was thinking the same thing!! Well, really I’m thinking why does it not have PoE? At this price point, why should there be multiple required cables to the control unit?
No poe is not the end of the world, but a 15 volt barrel connector? That’s just asinine
@ or 5/9/12/24 volts. What even uses 15v? Why not usb C? That will do 5/9/12/19 volts and at least 100w, and it’s a STANDARD
It came with a 15V Icom plugpack. I'm not sure what the acceptable "range" is for powering the head. Could be anything
I’ll keep my DX10
Looks reaLly nice . Wonder what the prIce is like . I'm Stuck wIth my 7300
$6,000+ US
That's one awesome looking radio, great review, tnx Man!
Thanks for watching!
Could you demo with the NR and NB on? I am really interested in how quiet you can get the receiver
It looks like a very nice transceiver. I would like to see a demo after you have had it longer so we could see what it actually does. Thank You 73
Clearly they're going after the Kenwood TS-990 and to fill that future void as Kenwood stops production. NICE layout. Not happy with the lack of HDMI. Needs bluetooth, WiFi, logging via wireless keyboard, full digital decoder, callsigns on the waterfall (like SDRPlay). A lot of box where all the eggs are under one cover and when it has an issue, I can hear the cries just by opening my window. Again, nice rig, but missing several targets IMO. Perfect for "the man who has everything" but not the typical operator. Bankers will love selling loans so hams can buy it. You are most fortunate to have a demo for review. Keep up the great work! 73 OM
They tried to step up to flex radio
It would be interesting to know if with both units in your shack but each on a different VLAN if they can see each other.
The ARP broadcast asking for which machine has which IP should only be done if the other node is on the same subnet, otherwise the packet should be sent directly to the gateway. Maybe there’s a bug that tried to reach the RF deck on the same subnet even though it’s set up to be on another one? If static IP can be assigned to the RF deck that may help, but only if the network interface stays on when it’s in standby and waits for an IP packet addressed to it to signal it to wake up, rather than relying on wake on lan or anything like that that uses broadcasts.
You did a good review considering what you had to work with. But man oh man this is not what one would expect from Icom as their flagship radio. Dated technology, missing a fair few modern features available in other current radios. Big, heavy, awkward and it doesn't work over the internet as promised. Well, it probably does, but it should be plug and play with minimal set up to get it working totally remote. Otherwise why bother when there are several third party options that make any of Icoms network capable radios work remotely. If I did have the money and property full of antennas, I would only get this particular radio if it was remote plug and play so that I could have the remote head anywhere including over wifi and mobile/portable with a hotspot connection.
Great review '73
you may have already answered this but I'll ask anyways because i missed it. Is the deck/head unit casing a composite plastic type material or is it metalIt looked composite?
It's a fully metal case
@@HamRadioDX thank you!
No RF out for SDR?
there is rx i/o
Still Resistive LCD? Are we still in 1999?
...and low res compared to some rigs. That is even more disappointing to me.
maybe different types of touch are more rf sensitive ?
@@RoelandJansen It's not, and that's why capacitive touch screens are used by Elecraft (K4), Flexradio, ANAN G2 and on all smartphones.
Only obvious reason Icom insists on using resistive touch screens is the (trivial) lower cost.
You can only adapt down. You cant do dvi to HDMI only HDMI to dvi. You might be able to do this with an active display adapter. But most cant.
Fantastic test
I like the radio a lot but for the price of this radio; and you only get 200 watts, I think it's a bit overpriced at $6,000.00 U.S. unless 200 watts is good enough for you and you have good gain on your antenna. I hope ICOM comes out with a 100 watt version of this radio and cuts the price in half. I'd rater pay around $3,000.00 U.S. for this radio and put the other $3,000.00+ or more in a nice amplifier to have more than 200 watts to play with. But this is just my opinion. On another note, will the main unit that houses the power supply, will it control one or more rotors through the dock?
The remote head not having PoE seems like a bit of a miss. The transceiver unit is mains powered... so providing PoE out (or using any PoE switch in the middle) would be simple. It's $0.25 more in cost... money they could have saved by not having an AC wall wart.
Might be a noise issue. Disclaimer, though, I’m an idiot and I’m just speculating.
@@yeahimnotcool lol - that's the level of honesty that's been lacking on YT comments. 🙂
@@Jody_VE5SAR I go into any ham radio video knowing that I’m the dumbest guy there. Love learning, though. 😂
@@yeahimnotcoolthat’s a very good point. Power sending common mode ripple compliance between 0-1Mhz can be problematic in PSE design and this unit is already producing tons of RF.
What do you do when you operate the RF Deck remotely with the Controller in a different location....invest in a PoE switch? Best to have the seperate wall wart, in my opinion. Can use anywhere.
I'll consider it second hand from a boomer in about 10 years. In the mean time I'll hang on to my 7300.
You say boomer like it’s a bad thing…. Punk
Are you that poor? Maybe if you did not spend your life playing video games and learned a few things you woudl be better off?
@@alpha6tango860You took it as a bad thing. Relax boomer.
I operated my 7610 remotely with SDR-Control. I was really interested in your review and the remote operation was not encouraging. Maybe it will change with time.
I'm sure if I had more time with the demo unit it would be possible to make it work
Great video. I notice there is no CW speed knob like the 7610. Would love to see how it works in the 7760.
In the CW mode, push the Multi knob and the Key Speed, Pitch and Side Tone can be adjusted.
What is the retail price? Or is that a state secret?
You can do layer 2 over the internet but you need software like Zerotier. It is the same challenge the Flex guys have working remote over a WAN. It will be interesting to see if it actually does remote over a WAN including CW without the need for 3rd party software.
Dunno, looks cool of course, but really better than a 7610 for the extra $$$
Interesting, thanks !
The 'Tell' is stopping & not resolving further. Firmware needs an update. It's a bug.
What’s the tell?
Ohh the tell on the IP address range in wireshark
Can this radio transmit 4K bandwidth instead of 3Khz?
No. TBW Wide is 100 ~ 2900. Normal for Icom.
@@japanham5973 Thanks a lot for the information.
Rack mount kit?
That would be cool
How much is it? 1.2bn?
Might as well be 1.2bn
It didn't come with a manual? Did this fall off a truck or something?
QR codes to download one could be copied by viewers. Engineers fear?
Wow, I thought it was funny. At least he didn't "find" it in a bar like an iPhone back in the day. It was a joke dude.
@@stargazer7644 What did you think Falling off a truck means? It typically means someone stole it, or otherwise it probably wouldn't have come with a manual. I get it, it's ok, humor can be hard for some especially when it can have multiple meanings. Have a nice day.
That's incorrect. It's a demo unit that is passed around to ham shows and to distributors. We got ours for a ham show and I had it for a day or two.
I understood the joke mate, all good
The fact that PoE is not supported sucks (one cable less). Can you do duplex? (I mean hear frequency on which you currently transmit - radio knows what it is transmitting and could subtract that signal from second receiver connected to second antenna, in theory). Base unit is SOOO loud on this video (hard to say how microphone picks that up but having that under the desk wouldn't be welcome; and no - can't put it anywhere else as all feeders ends up here). 169.254 are APIPA addresses (so looks like it is not getting IPs from DHCP).
The 169.254.x.x address is assigned when the NIC on the device doesn't find a DHCP controller to assign it an IP address. It's fairly useless. What that tells me is either the remote head has to tell the base to pick up an IP. I'm guessing there is probably a setting we're all missing to let the base get it's own IP address or something. Or that the device can't truly be remote from it's home network, although if Icom says it should be able to do that then it must be something silly, or, since it's a demo unit, Icom disabled the feature. Isn't networking fun? :D
@@stargazer7644 I'm going out on a limb and saying it's just the base not picking up addresses via DHCP, especially when it picks up an IP fine with the remote head attached. I'm not familiar with Icom firmware but if it were me attempting to troubleshoot I'd put the unit into the router via the MAC address and have the router assign a static IP. You can then leave the base to pick up via DHCP. Or alternatively you can hard program an IP into the base if that's an option. But I'll stand by my statement and say it's likely something silly like a missed setting, or Icom disabled the feature on the demo unit.
@@stargazer7644 You didn't watch the whole video or missed it...he said the device worked fine from the remote shack with the head attached: Getting an IP when the remote head is attached. (23:54) He said all he did differently was attach the head and it worked fine.
Someone mentioned in the comments that it could be a firmware bug. So the RF deck gets a DHCP address when the RF controller on the same physical network tells it to wake up etc... I can see that in the router. But when the RF deck goes to sleep - so does the NIC in the RF deck, which is weird
Incorrect. My DHCP is working fine.
Mike that's exactly what I do in my configurations as you mention. Assign a static IP in the router and not on the device itself. In this case, I did both on the RF deck - didn't work. The control head was fine though.
Early look obviously but kind of a confusing product.
It looks like a kenwood...kind of. Kenwood looks better but they probably are on the way out. Guess everything is a menu or two down to get access.
Kind of like a flex radio but not as "flexible".
For the price (like almost half?) the mp101 gives you 200 watts (not continuous so rtty and ft8 you back it off) but you get vnc, two receivers,more physical buttons and pretty amazing receive capability (which we have not seen any data yet on that), Do like they put the rec play right on the front to remind me that Yaesu did not include that capability in the 101.
This is a monster that will need some thought on where to put the part of the radio that is not part of the user experience. Hope you got a strong shelf in the basement.
Do like the 4 tx/rcv and seperate rcv antenna. Nice.
To be honest I hope this starts looking better soon because the 905 was kind of a thud and its been awhile since the 7300 and 705 (and Yaesu may start taking some of that with the new qrp rig). They really should have upgraded the 7300 and the 7100...the old kenwood 2000 and the aging yeasu shack in the box stuff could use replacements, especially if mobile with a remote head.
I hope this is a winner if not one has to wonder where Icom is going. By the way I have a shack full of Icom stuff....I want them to succeed.
If this is any idea on pricing, wonder how close (or more) to $10k range its going to be for the ps2 amp.
The 169 address you saw means it wasn't able to get a DHCP address. Seems like the head was still trying to give the RF deck one. If it can't work over a Layer 3 VPN (IP Based) you may be able to get it to work using a L2TP (Layer 2 tunneling protocol) type VPN which works at Layer 2...Ethernet layer...and would make the head and deck think they are on the same LAN. Then it would just be a latency over the WAN test to see if it works remotely
Yeah it's too bad I don't have this thing longer, otherwise I'd make it work.
The RF deck is being weird when it's trying to get an IP address... in short - it doesn't via DHCP. Someone else in the comments suggested it is a firmware bug, which is probably likely.
In my router I can see the RF deck, but even if you give it a static address it doesn't "stick".
@@HamRadioDX because the rf deck is a dhcp server ? :)
@@pa0sdr Nah unlikely. I get informed of rouge DHCP servers and I saw no such notification when I ran it on my network for a few hours
@@HamRadioDX just guessing the rf deck should be accessable and configurable via its lan ip address on a unknown port ?
@@HamRadioDX When you say that you're giving it a static address, are you actually changing from DHCP on the deck to static/manually assigned or are you talking about setting a reserved IP address in your router or whatever is providing the DHCP server function? To make it easier to test if you have a router at home where you could simply setup two different subnets, one on Ethernet1 and the other on Ethernet2 as example port names and simply had default routes in each subnet to the other you wouldn't have to do the running back and forth to the remote site. If you have an old Linksys router or something like that then you could install something like OpenWRT which can do this. Just depends on what you have and how much time you have. It would be nice to know as I bet this is the biggest looming question that many have about this radio. Thanks for what you do. I enjoy your vids.
Lucky you...wish iCOM to send me something to play with. 😥
No shack in the box, we need a replacement for the 7400
I am just too stupid to own a radio like this at this point in my life. I love it but it would be wasted with me.
I would set static IPs anyway, don’t use DHCP on the main unit.
I set statically on my router, and all devices are DHCP.
@ yeah I think that’s part of the problem because DHCP is still being used even if the router is assigning the same IP every time. I would set static IPs on the control head and RF deck with that different subnet setting enabled and try again.
I’m a network engineer by the way. :-)
@@k6usy Yeah the only issue will be that the NIC goes to sleep/drops it's current IP when it's told to turn off by the control head - even locally on the same network and even when it's in the standby (not shutdown) state for remote operation. So setting a static IP won't help in that regard.... I suspect that it's a firmware bug.. my IC-7610 doesn't switch off the network card in the standby state, which is expected with a new radio that is technically still in the demo phase.
I have the 7610 which costs £230 Iike this set but the price is very high.
Crazy money for a 7610 on steroids. Remote head means little to most. I would have preferred to see something between the 7300 and 7610 with enhanced NR.
I’ve talked to many hams on air who agree, Icom missed the mark.
Take it apart :D
An ideal toy to play with for those with unlimited finances. I very much doubt though that the reciever is any better than ic-7300 really
still no hdmi?
Just use a $3 DVI to HDMI adapter
@@stargazer7644 I keep hearing its due to a license fee to use HDMI format. I find that hard to believe. Fee is only 10k plus .15 per unit sold. I'd pay a little more to have real video support and not have to deal with adapters.
This right here.. it's not really a problem
@@jacko101 Icom would be wise to through one in the package just so they won't have to keep dealing with the request. 🙂
The pronunciation of deck is interesting 🤔
I'm Australian, not from New Zealand bro
Very interesting stuff, it certainly looks like the base station isn't getting a DHCP lease from your club station's router. I'd love to see some proper wireshark captures from a mirrored switch port, please, if you take any then do send 'em over - so many questions! Seeing as it appears to have proper support for IPv4 routing then getting it going over a VPN should be a breeze. If it's got a complete IP stack in it and been done right then it'll be able to figure out any MTU bottlenecks too, and with the adjustable audio buffer that's all very exciting. If not then there's always nonsense like L2TP/IPSec or gretap/wireguard. Now if only I could borrow one for a couple of days and get it all worked out... ship to England Hayden? Haha 73 de M0MZF
No Teardown? Even the microphone plug is scary. Waterfall shows engineering failures just to be a bit of the pedantic side. Happy with VGA if it outputs full HD.
Which is good.. Better than a RJ12 connector!
@@HamRadioDX Probably getting the Elecraft K4 instead even it is only 100W
Новый трансивер а у него уже ручка валкодера вся поцарапана )))) Ручки болтаются когда он их крутит ))) Даже на 7300 ручки выполнены более качественно! 7000$
This sort of thing is getting far too complicated for a Ham radio transceiver.
The whole idea that a radio needs to have two IP addresses just so that the two parts can speak with one another, just seems like overkill.
Maybe that's just me, what's next?, it needs to have a Microsoft licence so that you can transmit? (just kidding)
It is a nice looking radio, don't get me wrong, but it isn't something I would buy.
Thanks for the rundown, Hayden!
Thanks Mike!
I'll pass the head unit doesn't attached to the base I don't want.
No HDMI external display on a new model is shat
Why? It does not make sense for Icom to pay thousands of dollars per year for HDMI licence when the unit only outputs 800x600
Happy they stayed with the DVI-D. A much more robust connector. That's why the US military still uses DVI-D, reliability. HDMI connectors are just plain fragile.
@@stduffy72 your correct I keep forgetting the license issue! Thanks for clearing my mind up.
@@mikesradiorepair ya looking at it like that makes sense I never thought of that!
@@HAUNTED-HAM I stock several different HDMI connectors because I have to replace a couple of them every year because they were broken. I have never replaced a DVI-D connector. The DVI-D connector is inherently more rugged by design because it is captured by a screw on either side of it like a serial or parallel port connector.
That stand probably doesn't come with the radio looks 3d printed.
My SunSDR2dx display blows that pitiful display into the dirt. I bet the Sun hears as well or better and has a better transmit audio as the transmit bandwidth can be expanded out to 18khz and the receive out to 10Khz. Yes , the sun has no remote capability directly but you can go through a server. Mine only costs $2495.00 so I'll pass on the Icom.
Very nice but crazy expensive and it’s design age is getting ancient
Wow the back panel is a combination of the 1970's and 1990s, nothing from 2024 😢 hdmi usb type c .... whattttttttt
cm not mm
Where?
£6000 and they give it a cheap looking plastic case..Aluminium case would have been a bit of class..
I can't believe they didnt put a roofing filter in it. For that kind of money, they should have.
difficult with a direct sampling radio.
I can't believe you passed your license
@@Mr__Anon-E-Mouse so my buddy has a 7610. it will not knock out 3kh interference like my radio which has a roofing filter. all high end rigs have them. my radio has dsp filters plus a roofing filter.
I’m glad I saw this before buying it, because then I’d have to send it back. Lame speakers. No HDMI? Im not impressed with the design. At all. I’m out. Hey Yaesu. How you doin?
Unfortunately quite boring.
No HDMI is forgivable - HDMI is a shi**y stnadard requiring licencing. DVI to HDMI adapters cost almost nothing.
Ext display limited res is an ancient idea.
I can at a stretch forgive no PoE, no USB Type C ... devices providing power via these means are often noisy, Icom controling the power supply isn't understandable here.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love these options, but i think i can understand why not.
A bar for a voltmeter still ??? Thanks for thinking we're 6 year olds Icom
And the temperature... hot / cold.... more like a European car than a Japanese radio intended to be operated by adequately licenced users.
Icom had a lead when this UI came out, but failing to keep it relevant is causing them to lag behind.
And the ultimate failure... mostly pointless SDR...
Appliance operators won't care, but an SDR should allow synthesis of many different signal types in the radio itself.
That means generating WSPR / FT8 / JS8 / whatever other digital mode you can think ok... inside the radio itself.. not using an audio interface.
Instead we're still feeding radios digital sigs like cave men.
Kind of ho hum... nothing to die for in this radio yet... ?
Really? A DVI-port in the year 2024?
This just seems like the wrong radio at the wrong time
Why's that?
too much RFI door.. price wise.. good luck ICOm.
dvi-d? wtf?
you can get a 8track to cassette adapter too but wtf for? thats crazy
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What the heck is a millimeter? 😂😂😂
A superior unit of measurement
Just another desk radio
I'll pass on it.
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