Relive The Battle of Agincourt With Epic Total War Gaming Footage
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- Опубліковано 24 жов 2021
- On October 25th, 606 years to the day since it took place, we’ve recreated the Battle of Agincourt using the Total War video game series. For this battle we’ve used the Medieval Kingdoms 1212AD mod for the game Total War: Attila.
History Hit presenters Louee Dessent and Luke Tomes take you through the strategy and tactics of the two generals on the day in 1415, King Henry V of England and the Constable of France, Charles D’Albret. They’ll take you through the background to the battle, the composition of the armies and the key moments that decided the day.
Did the English archers with their deadly longbows prove decisive? And how were some of the finest medieval knights of their day bested in hand-to-hand combat? Watch to find out.
This is the second episode of our brand new Battlefield Replays series where we’ll use gaming footage to recreate some of the best known battles in history.
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#BattleOfAgincourt #TotalWar #HistoryHit
What do you think was the decisive element of this battle? Henry's leadership, the English longbow or mistakes by the French?
Couldn't have done it without Henry
I think all three elements (and the heavy rain, the night before the battle) combined: created the outcome. And I think, eventhough it was against Knightly conduct, that Henry V didn't really have a "choice" in killing these P.O.W.
Because they were just too numerous for him to deal with: hold captive, feed and negotiate a deal for them all. As Henry & his army were still on enemy soil, even after the battle had been won. These P.O.W. could still have created a real problem for him. But the question indeed can be made: if this whole campaign & loss of life was "worth it" all? Henry the V, in the years following Agincourt had to keep on fighting in France to underscore his initial win. And only dying 7 years after the Battle of Agincourt, during another battle/seige, on French soil, of the city Cosne-sur-Loire. By a combination of dysentery & probable heatstroke. So much for "winning"✌🏻😔.
I love how, just in my life, Historians have formed/come to so many new and more plausible/realistic ideas, on why and how Agincourt was fought & won. And most of them have left the myths of Shakespeare & Hollywood behind them. 👌🏻
Combination of all three plus the weather and the battlefield itself lost the day for the French and won it for the English
Jonathan Sutcliffe, do I keep seeing you on QI?
Also, I would say the longbow was the key element. Cavalry charges were supposed to work in this scenario, it was the longbows ability to rapidly decimate opponents that in my opinion won the day.
The terrain was also critical.
The battle of Blenheim is such a criminally overlooked battle from English history that would be interesting to see recreated.
Like this idea!
YES! John Churchill, 1st Duke of Marlborough is one of the greatest military leaders to ever live. He is one of the very few who never lost a battle he led. And he was a front-line general.
And yes Winston Churchill was a descendant of his. Winston wrote a multi-volume biography of Marlborough.
ua-cam.com/video/BvaVh6WGPE0/v-deo.html
One of my great-grandfathers from 17 generations ago fought in the Battle of Agincourt. He served with the English as a man-at-arms. His name was John Chichester. He survived the battle, and you can find his name in the University of Southampton's "Agincourt roll."
Great work and great graphics. Would be happy to see more of this.
Love this format. Great commentary and very cool to utilize mods for the b-roll. More plz!
thanks!
Love your energy guys. Keep up the enthusiastic work.
thanks so much!
Really good stuff - nice overview of such a famous battle
Thanks so much, we enjoyed this one!
@@HistoryHit
Very well done I would also like to recommend a UA-cam channel that you should collaborate in the near future with it’s called Kings and Generals and they use total war animation in order to animate battles they have done Azincourt Hastings and several others
Great stuff guys. Can't wait for more!
Fantastic video of the highest standard as expected from this great channel!
When a junior lecturer of late medieval history in the 1970s I taught a paper about how battles tactics especially in the formations, like Agincourt are linked to, evolved and were built upon lessons learned back to Edward I's methods in his Scottish campaigns
This makes me want to play Medieval Total War II again. Wish they wold make Medieval III
its too old i just wished they made the third it would be amazing if they did
Excellent vid, excellent game (and mod). Enjoyed that, ta!
Thank you kindly!
Love this, takes me back to when Time Commanders was on TV!
Great video 👍 wish there had been some mention about the Cheshire bowmen. Im from Macclesfield in Cheshire.
Could you even possible do a video about the Cheshire bowmen? It's a fascinating story. They were Richards personal body guard and for up to all kinds of mischief lol. Be absolutely great if you could do a video about the Cheshire bowmen.
Brilliant. Reminds me of time commanders.
I’m waiting for this channel to explode.
Thanks so much Ben! Hope you enjoyed the new episodes.
I am so glad this channel is getting more updates and traction, but you are using the 1212 Attila mod. Agincourt was 200 years later! You have English longbowmen using pavaise shields and men at arms using 13th century weaponry and shields. I love that you are trying to emulate Time Commanders, but lets hope there are some Atilla mods that reskin the units for a more accurate 15th century vibe
Being a Scot, got to be the Battle of Bannockburn
Great video, don't enjoy the back and fourth stuff though wouldn't mind knowing a little backstory
I think you could probably take a look at some of the big battles of The burgundian wars: grandson, Morat, and Nancy. It is kind of a understated war, there's also all of the political implications for Charles trying to build his own empire between several large neighbors. Additionally, you get to see his own edition of the french ordonnance, and there's also the devastating effectiveness of the swiss pike and halberds.
Certainly hope to cover some later medieval battles where artillery start to play a big role!
Yes LOVE it. These are so interesting.
I like the concept of using Total War to visualize the battle. But I would like to see the PC specs upgraded or the settings lowered as it was obvious that the PC struggled to simulate the battle.
Thanks for the feedback, we are hoping to run it on a more powerful machine for future episodes!
its not the pc its just the game. total war atilla is horribly optimised so its laggy on any system
@@alfiebanana I have yet to experience that kind of lag in the game and im running it on a GTX980, i7 3700k and 16GB of RAM. A system that is from 2013.
Would be cool to see one of the battle of the standard
Finally a more realistic approach and impressive, how many details you present.
thanks so much - more episodes coming this month!
Great overview guys. Nice lead up and context. Unique take on retelling historic battles. I will say dark shirt guy, needs a mic boost.
Bloody hell it's like time commanders! SUBBED!
thanks!
Servant '' Oh master thank you for this armour ...im not really sure when im going to use this....oh right.....''
I remember as a kid a very old program on TV that used rome total war and medieval total war to do the same as u both describe battle from history..... instant sub 😇
Time commanders!
@@thelasteinherjar6115 that's the fucker lmfao 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I just remember some geezer with some Ralph Harris glasses waffling on about how rome raped and pillaged everyone they saw 🤣🤣🤣
@@jonathanbarnes7981 what a programme that was mate! Used to love it me, especially considering I used to play the game they used to simulate the battles. One of the best programmes as a young one for me!
Awesome content
What was the English battle cry?
Our king does not want his estates in France to pay taxes due on them like everyone else has to.
Well done lads, look forward to more content, any chance of seeing one on Bannockburn?
Thanks Euan! Bannockburn a possibility for next year!
One note: the killing of prisoners, while abhorrent by today's standards, was not that wrong by Chivalric standards, especially given the situation Henry saw that day. Not only would nearly 100% of leaders agreed with him, but the rules of war fare in the 15th Century condoned those actions, *if* the prisoners were likely to escape or be set free in such a way as to ignore their parole they gave when captured.
Since the battle was on going, most of those prisoners were still mostly armored and only needed to pick up a club or fallen weapon to be a threat again, and the horsemen were likely to kill their guards and free them. Had the prisoners been unarmored, shackled, or otherwise removed from the possibility of rejoining the fight, it would have been a crime (at the time).
But, as it is, it was just the action of a desperate leader placed in a desperate situation.
Could not have said it better myself.
Forgot....Bloody good.....love to see some Irish battles !....want more of the same !!!!
As they say, the yard cloth shaft made all the difference.
@History Hit. Would love to see the battle of Culloden shown. Could that be possible?
Cheers Allan, we're looking into it to see if it's possible!
Great work guys, how about the battle of Flodden another great English victory much over looked.
I think you should consider Bosworth next.
The battle of Jena using Total War Napoleon with Napoleonic Total War III mod units.
Even if our king would not be far, loosing more and more his mind, nothing could change the fate of these battle which is considered in France as the really end of the era of "Chevalerie". No royal army but just the reunion of some groups of noble families. No one of them could agree to obey. The king's power was very fragile and he was depending of those great families. the artillery was just beginning to arrive, the Genovese crossbowmen were mercenaries and the foot soldiers were considered by the nobles as a servile troop.Joan of Arc's action is considered to have ended this interminable war. It remained in the French identity, and until Napoleon III, a strong hatred of England that certain weak spirits tried to revive at the time of Brexit. We still like the English and we jealous them for having had the courage to leave the shapeless monster of Brussels.
BRING BACK TIME COMMANDERS!!!
Any chance you two could talk at the same volume? I think one microphone is not working.
Soundtrack at the start?
Sorry,but Archers were not there because they were cheap. We have period sources stating they had to reach certain requirements and standards and also provide specific equipment and be able to shoot their bows to a required standard. 6 pence a day if I remember,which is not cheap. Granted it might be cheap compared to a high status man at arms or a knight,but they were certainly not hired to cut corners.
I would love to see the battle where Attila is finally defeated by the Visigoths. I believe the Visigoth King died in the battle due to night fighting confusion. Really a very important battle in the grand scheme of things.
It wasn't about the french throne initially and also the burgundians offered to come help but when the french asked them to send troops under the french command they refused
Very good video! Considering that you tried Agincourt with Total War, perhaps try the Fall of Constantinople some day?
Great idea, wondering if there's an accurate recreation of Constantinople in TW somewhere now...
@@HistoryHit Medieval 1212AD mod for Attila, Attila has an accurate Constantinople map
Great vid, but by the nine moons of Neptune - match the volume on your mikes, I can barely hear the guy on the right
- it's a cruel world.
Ok, not medieval or ancient history, but the battle of Little Bighorn would be awesome to see covered
Ah... but what if he had lived a long and prosperous life? Visiting Agincourt - and the British family run Battle Café (strangely, the French did not seem to recognise it at all!) was a great experience. You can stand on the battle line a fire a longbow to your hearts content (well, you could when I was there). The French picked the ground, which was the major factor, in the outcome of the battle. Would always think that the British force (worn out and ill) felt they had little to lose - what was the French attitude to captured bowmen?
I detect the hand of Mike Loades in this production
Please do some crusade battles. Like the battle of hitim!
Nice idea, we'll see what we can do!
its a shame hollywood thinks people dont appreciate real history and real strategy. it would be amazing to see battles like this recreated intelligently
Love history hit!
Thanks so much!
I thought (and please correct me if I am wrong) that the arrow heads were shaped to be armour piercing, i.e. even if they hit the full thickness metal plate they stood a good chance of getting through to the layers below. That plus, yes, the weight of fire was deadly.
One other point was I thought the English line moved forward first (and then ultimately stop) so as to get the French to start moving towards them. Which means they had to re-setup. But this had the added effect of reducing their line width, confining the more numerous French to fight closer together.
Tod's Workshop trial (here on UA-cam) arrows v armour does a pretty good job of indicating that arrows don't pierce plate.
I believe the armour piercing arrow head that you speak of is called a bodkin. It is a four sided square "cone", a very tall pyramid. However, it is better at piercing mail than plate, where the ramming affect of the pyramid into a mail ring stretches then splits the ring open allowing the point to go an inch or so into the fabric or skin below.. As Mike Loades explains in a partner video to this one, you'd have to hit the plate mail straight on to pierce it. Most blows would glance off curved plate-armour. It's the hard hitting repetition of 7000 archers that wears down the heavily armoured knights
Maybe battle of Bosworth or Towton next?
Teutenberg Forest 2nd century AD
Wow! The longbows were six feet (ca two meters) long, taller than the bowmen themselves.
Man I am 100% playing dead ☠️ when it’s over, I be walking again 🤣
There were longbows that went waaayyyy over 100lb, longbows found on the Mary Rose, dated to around 1545 went up to 185lb even, so I'd say it's safe to assume that 150lb would be a nice average bow that was used at Agincourt. Tod, from Tod's workshop yt channel did a little test a while ago to see the effect arrows had on armour, from a 160lb bow, an arrow hit the lower edge of a breastplate, the arrow bounced off it into the chainmail and gambeson, piercing quite deep through it.
There are so many tests done on this with very different results.
From what ive seen it seems very unlikely that an arrow would be any real threat at longer range but at close range it would. That is against heavy armour of course.
@@jannickfranck3864 Bear in mind that nearly all the tests that prove a longbow arrow couldn't penetrate plate are done against the best piece of plate in the entire suit of armour - the breastplate. Every other piece of armour is less robust. So if it could still occasionally pierce right through a breastplate then the chances of it going through other pieces of armour are much higher. Even Todd accidentally punched through a helmet with the only arrow that actually hit it during one of his videos.
@@Matt_Alaric they are also done from very close range
@@jannickfranck3864 What are?
@@Matt_Alaric the typical test
Interestingly Jean de Wavrin, who witnessed the battle from the French side, wrote that it was the French who were hungry and tired on the morning of the battle, which he says made the problem of advancing through the mud in heavy armour even worse.
Amazing video
I wanna see a video about battle of crecy
thanks so much! Crecy would be fun to do.
How about the battle of Clontarf
Can you do the battle of Getty’sburg
Looking into it!
@@HistoryHit thanks
I'd like to see the battle of Crecy, if it hasn't been done already.
What battle do you hope to do next?
Ps the last 2 battles were excellent
Thanks a lot Kieran! We've got an ancient battle coming up next... it's a big one!
I know Waterloo is the most done battle ever but I’d like to see your take on it. If you are able to do naval battles Trafalgar would be a good one too. If you do non English battles the battle of Austerlitz would be amazing. I’d also like to see the battles of Bosworth Field, Stamford Bridge, Bannockburn and Stirling Bridge.
Thanks for the comment Heather, you might be in luck with Austerlitz… 🤫
It is overdone yes, but it would be criminal not to do Waterloo.
@@iteor7320 it does seem like it should be a given
What about the battle of Kursk?
Sadly Total War haven't released WW1 or WW2 games. One day though!
It's a really interesting video and cool to see it depicted like this. It's a shame you ran the game on a potato though. If your channel's main attraction is the video game, get a rig that can handle it at max settings?
Great video and idea but next time check the audio, it's a pity one off you sound good while the other ones mic doesn't seem to be turned on.
And make it longer! More combat cinematics.
And history knowledge haha just more off everything.
Battle of Ain Jalut please.
Great Siege of Malta
Why am I just finding this channel now? Towton! You have to recreate the battle of Towton. Please
Cheers Lloyd, it's a good one we'll definitely look into.
Why would you not re-record this after messing up the dialogue recording?
Alexander the great at Gaugamela pls!
I was interested in the training workout 🏋️♂️ we were told for years knights couldn’t get on a horse or perhaps get up if fallen down. We now know this is false but the training was interesting yet cut short by the smallest guy.
Please do Towton!!!
Nice idea, we'll see what we can do early 22!
Crecy please!
The archers would have aimed at the horses more than their riders, and you can't reasonably view the importance of agincourt at the time through the lens of Henry's later untimely demise.
Battle of Kinsale
Sound volume on the right hand commentator (dark shirt) is poor. Interesting though.
Historians in 2000: uses books and lectures. Historians in 2021: use the Total war Franchise...
There was a UK TV series back in 2003 called Time Commanders that used the Rome: Total War engine to recreate historic battles- it's something that's been done for a long time now.
@@chrisball3778 I'm aware. It's called a JOKE. Welcome Correction Man lol
Henry had 7000 archers
Sleuys would be cool
"Agin" or "Aeeging" ?
you could have used "kill prisoners" sound from first med total war.
Why didn’t they use medieval 2 total war? It is a historical battle in the game.
Try a sound check first. (Dark shirt quiet but light shirt good volume).
Audio on the presenter in the blue shirt is terrible, other than that nice video
Man in black:”Cheapskates.The English.”
Me:”They are smart enough to fight economically.You & the French are silly enough not to.”
aZincourt !
Cooper kupp in white
Guys, a significant difference in volume between white T-shirt guy and blue T-shirt guy, you need to fix this …
Great video 👍
Battle of Thermopylae would probably give you mega views. But I would love to see the battle of Cannae.
Just my personal opinion feedback, try not to do scripted comedy with each other. It's hard to get that stuff to work well.
Slap me MOREE
Towton
good vid, sound is botched
like it
Thanks!
dear me the French execution was truly appalling.....
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Battle of Ayn Jalut*
famous battles??? or famous English victories only....
look forward to your coverage of Patay
Going global with the next couple of episodes!
@@HistoryHit excellent
Doesn't have nearly the same resonance as Agincourt. Lightly armed unprotected archers run down by cavalry and armoured infantry. Well... no shit. Longbownen were no good unless protected... as they were at Crecy, Poitiers, Cravant, Agincourt, Verneuil, etc.
More interesting would be how the hopelessly outnumbered and over stretched forces of John Talbot managed to hold out the vastly numerically superior Valois forces for something like 20 years.
@@doug6500 that does not apply to Patay. The French were even more spread out. The vanguard cavalry that charged and destroyed the English was a fraction of the whole army. And was heavily outnumbered by English archers. Talbot pleaded for Falstaff's reinforcements to join his archers. Falstaff refused saying the positioning was faulty and urged Talbot to pull back to him.
Talbot's arrogance made him refuse and lost England the entire war on that day. As the core of experienced archers was decimated and was never properly rebuilt. We can say that the myth of the English longbowman died that day.
The is what makes Patay more important than Crecy Poitiers Agincourt or Verneuil. It was a decisive and strategic victory. Even though this was not realised at the time.
Won by a tiny force of French heavy cavalry who repeated the failed tactics of previous French disasters.... charging archers. But this time from a winning tactical position. That took courage.
You can bleat on about Talbot's 20 year losing campaign all day. But he was well and truly beaten at Patay. And finally wiped out in 1453 at Castillon where he adopted the French tactic of suicidal frontal assault on a fixed defensive position. This time against Bureau's artillery.
Lord Cardigan must have so admired his stupidity he repeated the trick in front of his French allies. The French commander applauded before laughing himself to death.
@@fiachramaccana280 The initial assault involved roughly 200 heavily armoured mounted knights charging 500 unprepared and unprotected Longbowmen. Don't try and make it some kind of lopsided victory within the same magnitude as Agincourt or Crecy. By the time any other forces were involved the numbers were more matched. Even still, the tactical dispositions of the English had been compromised. Again, Longbomen were no good unless used in unison with a sufficient force to protect them. It was a disjointed affair which did indeed result in the English position in France being firmly put on the back foot. The English, unlike the French, simply did not have the numbers or resources to come back from it which is why I contend that Talbot (and company) did extremely well to hold on for as long as he did. There is a reason he was revered by both French and English chroniclers alike.
From a purely tactical point of view, Agincourt is a far more impressive victory. This is my opinion. You won't agree with it and that's fine.
However....
I wonder what Cardigans charge at the Battle of Balaklava has got to do with any of this. I can only sumrise that you used it as a means to add some kind of ad hominum attack which I suppose can only have resulted from my comment touching a nerve.
No doubt youll bring up Dunkirk 1940 next and try and attribute the fall of France squarely on the shoulders of the British.
It all follows a pattern with you people and it's all so predicatable. I'd say "grow up" but I'd wager it's fairly useless as you'll still patrol UA-cam looking to salve whatever hurt you're feeling.
Anyway, peace out.