Agincourt | How effective was the longbow against charging armoured knights?

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  • Welcome to the second of our Q&A sessions about history, the longbow, archery or whatever subscribers want to know.
    This video comes from a discussion with Tarquin P'tang P'tang Ole Biscuitbarrel ;-)) he'd asked at what range would arrows penetrate the armour of a mounted knight at Agincourt, but the conversation kind of developed into how the archers and their longbows were effective against armoured charging knights.
    Listen as Kevin Hicks shares his thoughts on the question.

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  • @MBCGRS
    @MBCGRS 2 роки тому +220

    So great to see the last survivor of Agincourt recounting his experiences. Looking good for 600....

  • @dadventuretv2538
    @dadventuretv2538 2 роки тому +144

    Well put. I think the mistake so many people make is in defining effective as “killing.” All the longbows have to do is disrupt the French charge enough so that when it hits the English line it is on disarray and doesn’t hit with the force it otherwise would have. This has been the one of main purposes of missile weapons throughout history- the Roman Pilum, the Frankish Francisca etc.- if they kill some people, great, but wound, take out shields, create gaps in the line, create disarray, as well as the psychological factor- that is why missile weapons work in battles, even if they don’t necessarily kill a bunch of the enemy outright. And also like you mention, the archers can direct the French where they want the French to go by making certain approaches less favorable. Combine that with a smart use of topography and perhaps a lucky muddy field of battle that also slows a cavalry charge, and like you say, you have the perfect storm.

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому +32

      Thanks for watching. Your comments are bang on & appreciated 👍🏻

    • @Specter_1125
      @Specter_1125 2 роки тому +14

      The battle of patay is an example of what can happen if when the arrows don’t disrupt the enemy. A comparatively small number of French knights defeated a significantly larger English force consisting of mostly bowmen.

    • @nightwolf1592
      @nightwolf1592 Рік тому +1

      It never really occurred to me that the real purpose of the long bow was to create panic and confusion, so obvious now you point it out.
      Thank you 👍

  • @paulcasey5204
    @paulcasey5204 2 роки тому +6

    Thanks Mr Biscuit Barrel, demonstrating the value of a classical education.

  • @davidw1634
    @davidw1634 2 роки тому +39

    I used to watch you at Sherwood Forest as a kid you really got me interested in archery and the long bow
    Glad your still producing content

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому +7

      Excellent, thanks David. I really miss Sherwood.

    • @GWB184
      @GWB184 2 роки тому +1

      I went to Sherwood when I was 5/6 it would have been 2000/2001. I was the small rascal shooting left right and center with my plastic bow 🤣

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому +1

      @@GWB184 Excellent 👍🏻

  • @josephscarborough8888
    @josephscarborough8888 2 роки тому +1

    This channel should have 1 million+ subscribers. Abseloutly delightful to watch.

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому

      Wow, that's kind thank you, we'll keep trying 👍🏻

  • @petehall889
    @petehall889 2 роки тому +4

    Your infectious enthusiasm makes the description of the battle so vivid, Kevin. I am proud of all my fellow Englishmen who prevailed against the odds on St. Crispin's Day in October 1415, God bless 'em!

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому +3

      Cheers Pete and yes, Gawd bless 'em 👍🏻

  • @randomobserver8168
    @randomobserver8168 2 роки тому +108

    There's a tendency even today to look at weapons systems, ancient or modern, either as magic solutions or as total failures, and not as more or less effective tools working as part of a whole military system AND a set of circumstances. Your presentation didn't cause me to lose one whit of respect for the bow or the archers, but it colourfully illustrated the right way to look at the question. If only news people covering modern military technology were as clear-eyed.

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому +15

      Thank you, your comment is appreciated 👍🏻

    • @tonikeep4420
      @tonikeep4420 2 роки тому +2

      The bow and arrow is one of the oldest weapons and has been adapted over the centuries for warfare,hunting and for competition.whilst a compound bow is good for accuracy,not much can match a longbow,or as my people (seminole)called it the big bow.we used a small bow for birding,fishing and for small game.we did not use horses,so a horse bow wasnt necessary.the big bow was used on elk,and other larger game.
      In Europe,the big bow was developed to give more power to the arrow,longbows,are six feet tall,and archers or yeomen were selected for height and weight.you need a great deal of strength to pull the drawstring back on one,especially repeatedly.used en mass they were deadly,dropped from a height.a knight in armour horse was no problem,the development of the bodkin arrowhead could be aimed to hit the horse behind the saddle,the knight unhorsed became vulnerable.
      Much exadderation ,myth and legend surrounds Agincourt,Cressey etc.so muddied are the facts.the best recorded example is Hastings.we have relics,Tapestries and armour from that time.many enlishmen were killed by arrows falling on their heads and shoulders.medieval warfare was a very very bloody business.

    • @viamilitaris011
      @viamilitaris011 3 місяці тому

      News people's job is not to show us the facts, but to carry out the propaganda of Governments, Intelligence Services and Multinational Companies.

  • @colbymclemore7642
    @colbymclemore7642 Рік тому +4

    Man, I only found your channel a few weeks ago, but this is now one of my favorite history channels. The work you put into costumes, demonstrations, and models just shows you go the extra mile for your passions!

  • @mickusable
    @mickusable 2 роки тому +20

    Nice one Kevin, your storytelling puts us there at the time, awesome 🏹

  • @tonythedwvyer
    @tonythedwvyer 2 роки тому +12

    That was the best explanation of the French defeat that I've heard.
    It made sense.

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks Tony, you might want to check out the Hundred Years War series I'm currently working through, here's the playlist 👍🏻
      ua-cam.com/play/PLZ5bkawra-DiRDbgOwOQAOcrWp6uP-uLz.html

  • @professorpandemic7295
    @professorpandemic7295 2 роки тому +8

    A tale well told, sir! I feel as if I saw the whole thing with my own eyes.

  • @pemtax557
    @pemtax557 2 роки тому +1

    Wonderful storytelling ... I, as well as you, felt like I could see it all happening. I had to take a deep breath at the end of your story. A quick brandy and nap are now in order. Thank you, Cheers!!!

  • @joelopez3954
    @joelopez3954 2 роки тому +3

    Would love to see a director like Ridley Scott do an Agincourt battle movie! Not as a minor backdrop or set piece about the King ( already done ), but with tactics, armor, weapons and the fighting men fleshed out more thoroughly!

  • @johndemaria9408
    @johndemaria9408 2 роки тому +11

    Enjoyed the straightforward but animated commentary. The bowman cause mayhem , which does wonders for unsettling the nerves. The amount of pointed hail falling from the sky, nothing was going to be a slam dunk.

  • @starrcitizenalpha7847
    @starrcitizenalpha7847 2 роки тому +15

    Ƿes þu hal.
    You, Sir, have a gift for story telling! These videos end far too soon.
    This channel is rapidly becoming one of my favourites, along side the likes of Tod's Workshop, Scholagladiatoria, Modern History TV etc.
    Be well.

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you kindly 👍🏻

    • @joemccallum6213
      @joemccallum6213 2 роки тому +2

      The English were greatly helped by the weather it had rained for a
      Week before the battle,many unhorsed knights actually drowned in the morass the knights on foot
      Sank. To their knees in the mud
      Making them easy for the lighter clad English to dispatch them
      Joe mcCallum

  • @Talondas
    @Talondas 2 роки тому +15

    Thank you for remembering the mud and that it would have hindered the mounted charge. It also hindered the unmounted knights that despite, or more accurately because of their armor, were mired down almost as bad as the mounted knights. It was a mess!

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому +1

      It certainly was, thanks for watching Leo 👍🏻

    • @johnsamu
      @johnsamu 2 роки тому +3

      In ancient times people got payed to do mud fighting and in modern you must pay to see mud fighting 😉😁

    • @broadbandislife
      @broadbandislife 2 роки тому +1

      One analysis of the battle - Osprey's _Campaign_ booklet of the same name IIRC - pointed out that this was the same sticky mud that gave everyone in this sector such misery during the Great War.

  • @kelly-annejenner486
    @kelly-annejenner486 8 місяців тому

    Love how you’re making us think about what went on, not only telling us. It’s great!

  • @greenman3120
    @greenman3120 2 роки тому +4

    Really enjoyed your descriptive narrative, I could visualise the intensity of the battle

  • @joseywales3848
    @joseywales3848 2 роки тому +1

    What a delight to watch, dramatic and emotive storytelling at it's best. You deserve that cuppa!

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому +1

      Cheers! Josey Wales, one of my favourite cowboy movies, based on the book "Gone to Texas' 👍🏻

  • @robthompson8285
    @robthompson8285 8 місяців тому

    Kevin, you make me feel good about the world. I love your videos.😊

  • @asrigascanbe
    @asrigascanbe 2 роки тому

    love to hear your passion for the bowmen, cheers kevin, enjoyed the show

  • @SMac86
    @SMac86 2 роки тому +1

    Really enjoyed these insights into what it would’ve taken to charge into that arrow storm, and then to meet the men at arms waiting in the middle flanked by those lighter more maneuverable archers… wow.

  • @alblanzjr
    @alblanzjr 2 роки тому +1

    OMG!! Thank you! I have always been a history buff, but the way you colour in the details is amazing, and so enlightining!! Oh how I had such a marvelous history teacher when I was a school boy!

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому

      Wow, thank you! Glad you enjoyed it - stay tuned for more ;-)

  • @esmeraldagreen1992
    @esmeraldagreen1992 2 роки тому

    Take that history channel!
    Straight and to the point with no interviews to "scholars" and no commercials.

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому

      Haha, thanks Esmerelda, glad you enjoyed it. 👍🏻

  • @bulljolly7028
    @bulljolly7028 2 роки тому

    Kevin , the way you tell history is so entertaining. You give a good perspective of the battle . I could watch your UA-cam channel all day .

  • @WillyEckaslike
    @WillyEckaslike 2 роки тому +2

    nicely described account of what probably happened

  • @andyleighton6969
    @andyleighton6969 2 роки тому +22

    The bowmen only had to drop a few, or have the mud do it for them - look at fatal crowd incidents - close packed, moving at speed, ones in the second line falling over the stricken themselves. There's videos of chaos spreading like a wave through a crowd once there is an obstruction.

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому +4

      Absolutely agreed 👍🏻 good comment, thanks.

    • @dduckman1423
      @dduckman1423 2 роки тому +2

      I am going for the muddy field. The heavy horses carrying all that weight would have sunk and lost all attack speed. The French infantry copped the arrows and left the knights unsupported.

    • @fieryjalapenos4442
      @fieryjalapenos4442 2 роки тому +2

      Let’s be real, you knock someone off their horse in front, there was a good chance the arrow didn’t kill them but the 20 charging horses behind them got the job done.

    • @broadbandislife
      @broadbandislife 2 роки тому

      @@fieryjalapenos4442 Not like falling down in infantry fighting was any better. Ya know what Classical Greek hoplite spears had those pointy butt ferrules for...?
      Medieval European cavalry however did not fight in deep formations - that was an Eastern thing, maneuverability was a lot bigger deal in mounted combat over there (partly because battlefields tended to be more open). They formed up in long thin lines to maximise lance shock frontage which had the coincidential benefit of limiting the disruption caused by falling mounts; real bitch to maneuver though just like the infantry lines of the musket-and-bayonet era (which followed the same logic to maximise _fire_ frontage and incidentally limit casualties from artillery).

  • @peasantsrevolt4780
    @peasantsrevolt4780 2 роки тому +1

    Just discovered your channel and I absolutely love it. This really gets the mind and the imagination rolling while you describe the particular subject. Well done my friend.

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому +1

      Excellent, thanks. Glad you're enjoying it - there's lots more to come 👍🏻

  • @jonremmers1828
    @jonremmers1828 2 роки тому +1

    Haha, I am not even into medieval history, but yet I find myself staring into this Kevin-guys eyes, unable to stop watching, unable to not click another video. You are one proper story teller sir. I imagine you have tranfixed a good number of people through your life. I am happy to have found your channel. Now I am off to find another one of your excellent vids.
    Greetings from Sweden!
    Jon

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому

      Wow, thanks Jon! And thanks for subscribing 👍🏻

  • @dlmsarge8329
    @dlmsarge8329 2 роки тому +2

    Great presentation!! Perfect holistic analysis!! Love the passion you have for history!!

  • @sharonwhiteley6510
    @sharonwhiteley6510 Рік тому

    It must have been horrible for all concerned.
    Your ability to set the scene is so unique. Thanks again

  • @sheltr9735
    @sheltr9735 2 роки тому +1

    First-time viewer, here
    Absolutely great! So many analysts get hung-up on the arrow-piercing-plate-armour issue. Instead, you've put the issue in terms of the larger context, providing a view of historical events, as I've never before seen!
    Thank you

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks Shel, you're right. I've just finished a video giving my thoughts on just that 'armoured piercing' topic specifically. It'll be up by the weekend. 👍🏻

  • @caryboyd2181
    @caryboyd2181 2 роки тому +3

    Kevin you answered a question. Longbowmen did arc fire and rain some of their arrows. Some very serious reinactors say only direct fire was used. This based on contemporary pictures of Agincourt. However even direct fire arrows won't penetrate armour unless you hit a gap of some kind. However knights loaded down in armour if you hit their horse would fall or throw their rider. Well if you can imagine being thrown in the air and landing bouncing along. That could kill or injure you. Then there are the archers who would be right on a fallen Knight.

  • @victornewman9904
    @victornewman9904 2 роки тому +4

    It's weird the way that modern tests of longbow hits on body armour assume that french body armour was of a modern standard. The quality would have varied in depth, strength and quality just as Panther armour was of uneven quality.

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому +2

      Hi Victor, yes, we're singing from the same hymn sheet, I agree wholeheartedly. Keep an eye out for a video later this week where I actually mention this 👍🏻
      Thanks for watching.

  • @bostonrailfan2427
    @bostonrailfan2427 2 роки тому +3

    the arrows did something that gets ignored or forgotten frequently but is a big part of the army even to this day: they were psychological. arrows blocking out the sun, forcing cavalry to retreat or be slaughtered by the bowmen, then causing troops to avoid those fleeing cavalry. it was a huge impact on how soldiers fought, fear can breakdown even the best training

  • @nabusvco
    @nabusvco 2 роки тому +1

    One of those legendary battles but told without the mysticism great vid Kevin

  • @BelloBudo007
    @BelloBudo007 2 роки тому +2

    You tell a great story mate. I felt like I was there. TBH I didn't knew about the bowman's dagger. But it makes perfect sense.

  • @TheDevilWAH
    @TheDevilWAH 2 роки тому +1

    One thing that really made me think what battle was like was watching reenactments with people in full armor, both plate and chainmail. Fit healthy people reduced to collapsing after 10-15 minutes of fighting. Simply running across a 100 meters of open space exhausted many.
    The idea of fights going on "all day" I image was much more people running in, fighting for a short time running back off, catching breath, running back in, running back. more a relay then a continual slogging match. With fresh soldiers pushing though from the back and exhausted soldiers falling to the back and then moving forward again in a continual rotation.
    A much more messy affair than we see in films, a long painful exhausting grind, wearing down the enemy than it was the swashbuckling sword play the films portray.

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому

      Yes, thanks for your comment. Many of the battles were actually very short indeed. Crecy was longer because of the breaks between the charges, but that's for part 4/5 of the Hundred Years War series. 👍🏻

    • @broadbandislife
      @broadbandislife 2 роки тому

      Infantry clashes could go on for quite a while but obviously involved lots of disengagement and breath-catching before getting back to it.
      But to give an illustration what kind of thermos bottle full armour with the associated padding is, take Battle of Towton (1460) where AFAIK many men-at-arms collapsed from heat exhaustion.
      It was fought _in heavy snowfall._

  • @jeffbaxter8770
    @jeffbaxter8770 2 роки тому

    Thank you for bringing the battle to life. Love it, from south africa

  • @PSDuck216
    @PSDuck216 Рік тому

    A great presentation!
    Here’s an idea for a show: tell us how the weapons and armor kit changed from Crecy to Agincourt. And, how the tactics changed on both sides.
    Cheers!

  • @crustycurmudgeon2182
    @crustycurmudgeon2182 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent narrative! I was right there in the thick of it.

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому +1

      Cheers Crusty, take a look at the Hundred Years War series too, there's lots of battle stuff coming up in there 👍🏻

  • @Nosirrah2112
    @Nosirrah2112 2 роки тому

    You're like that history teacher all the freshmen kids hope they get the next year. You make learning very cool. Thank you so much for the channel.

  • @davidc6510
    @davidc6510 2 роки тому

    Kevin the passion throughout the telling of the story was powerful. Great video and thanks for sharing. :D

  • @jeanlloydbradberry9099
    @jeanlloydbradberry9099 2 роки тому

    Really great answers and logical support for your views! These are questions all military historians and students of military science and martial arts should be asking, and striving to understand. You have answered many questions I have had for a long time, and I love your presentations; they are obviously a labor of love from an exceptionally analytical and intelligent mind. You are a natural, and gifted teacher!

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому +1

      Gosh, wow, a lovely accolade, thank you, & thanks for watching. I just love history and I guess it shines through.

  • @paulholloway1447
    @paulholloway1447 2 роки тому

    Always enjoyed your talks at Warwick.Love this channel.

  • @bobbyricigliano2799
    @bobbyricigliano2799 Рік тому

    I certainly enjoyed this video, thank you. I have a better understanding now of the longbow as an ingredient of the battle rather than the main course. Where it may have lacked in lethal penetration, it excelled in sewing chaos from a distance and breaking up cavalry charges. The vaunted mounted armored knight would become very vulnerable when his mount was pelted with arrows and driven mad onto a pike. Trying to regain one's bearings in the mud while wearing a suit of armor and being swarmed by lightly armored men at arms sounds like a pretty bad day.

  • @Aramis419
    @Aramis419 2 роки тому

    I love how impassioned and heated you get while telling a story!

  • @AttommicDog
    @AttommicDog 2 роки тому

    Fascinating analysis. Thank you.

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому

      Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching 👍🏻

  • @shaungillingham4689
    @shaungillingham4689 2 роки тому

    Excellent lecture, it's so good to listen to someone who knows what he is talking about.
    You get these glib five minute history's, that are inaccurate & completely lack context, without any background to fill in the blanks.
    These are incredibe events that are hardly acknowledged in the modern day, as patriotic sentiments are frowned on.
    Of course being english it's always a joy to hear how we bested the French.
    I was recently reading up on Lord Nelson & some of the engagements with the French, he won several before trafalgar, but won is a understatement, he absolutely hammered the french, destroyed or captured their ships & their casualties were horrendous. Of course there is further context behind theses victories, it's what makes history so exciting.

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому

      Thanks for watching Shaun 👍🏻
      You know Nelson's statue in Trafalgar Square is 3x his life size, which makes it an horatio of 3:1 😂

  • @jonrettich4579
    @jonrettich4579 Рік тому

    The accounts that I have read claim that the mounted French nobles pushed to the front and were therefore backed by many mounted sargents and mounted non nobles crowding them further into the tight killing ground and that the ground fell away to some degree left and right, adding mud just made things worse. I always greatly appreciate your presentations giving me an opportunity to walk a little in their shoes. Genetically these all had to be a much tougher and more resilient breed than now. Just fascinating. Thanks again

  • @owenlindkvist5355
    @owenlindkvist5355 2 роки тому

    Quite new to your content, and every video so far as been nothing short of entertaining. Bravo.

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому +1

      Glad you've enjoyed them Owen, thank you! 👍🏻

  • @tonymeads4693
    @tonymeads4693 Рік тому

    Thank you for a wonderful description of Agincourt !
    I have always felt proud of the English bowmen in whatever conflict that they took part but especially Crecy and Agincourt. They were true professionals.

  • @justinsears676
    @justinsears676 2 роки тому

    Absolutely brilliant description of what happened. Always been fascinated by Agincourt

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому

      Thanks Justin, if you like Agincourt, you might want to follow the 100 Years War Series I'm working on, the playlist so far is below, I'm just about to start the Battle of Crecy and Agincourt will follow on down the line. 😉
      ua-cam.com/play/PLZ5bkawra-DiRDbgOwOQAOcrWp6uP-uLz.html

  • @Wolf-yt5de
    @Wolf-yt5de 2 роки тому +17

    Very well presented. Everyone seems to forget that in the three great Longbow battles, Crecy, Poitier and Agincourt the armored knights made it to the English line and the battle was decided hand to hand! Very rare that we hear of a higher ranking Chevalier actually killed by an arrow, or a lance for that matter.

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому +2

      Great comment, thanks for watching. 👍🏻

    • @Matt_Alaric
      @Matt_Alaric 2 роки тому +2

      Everyone seems to forget? The idea that the longbowmen played only a small role in the big battles of the hundred years war has been the revisionist position for at least a decade now, even though it suffers from at least as many problems as the traditional view.

    • @tedwarden5803
      @tedwarden5803 2 роки тому +2

      It’s kind of ironic that the cream of French chivalry was defeated by pointed sticks.
      Certainly state of the art plate armour was proof against arrows, it was proof against fire arms for long enough.
      However their horses weren’t and as you mentioned once they turned tail they were vulnerable.
      You didn’t talk about the men at arms. ‘heavy infantry’, that followed the cavalry charge.
      They had to plow through a sea of mud top soil underlayed with clay and a chalk substrate churned up by the horses to be met by their equals and the archers.
      Any one who has had to walk through that stuff will know. It’s like glue. They would have been like flies in amber.
      The same mud created the impasse in 1914-18 and many died in the same way six hundred years later. Drowned,held, trapped by the very land they coveted or protected.

    • @Matt_Alaric
      @Matt_Alaric 2 роки тому +3

      @@tedwarden5803 "Certainly state of the art plate armour was proof against arrows, it was proof against fire arms for long enough."
      Probably the most thorough testing done on this has been done by Tod of Tod's Workshop. According to that the thickest armour on the best quality breastplate could defeat longbow arrows. But he also accidentally pierced a contemporary helmet with the same arrows, and has openly questioned whether the less thick sections of armour, or poorer quality armour, would fare as well.

    • @tedwarden5803
      @tedwarden5803 2 роки тому +2

      @@Matt_Alaric. Again I would agree with your point. But at the start of the battle would it not be volley fire?
      I’m certain that many of those guys could shoot the eye out a needle at a hundred yards but was that what they were trying to do? Intimate I would guess.
      I’ve certainly got more questions than answers on this subject.
      Henry certainly chose his ground and chose it well.
      A majority of the ‘French’ forces failed to follow up. As a result of the Politics of the time. Henry’s claim to the French crown was not without some legally.
      And even more so to Burgundy and some of what is now western France.
      The English army again as far as I remember was in a pretty poor state. It had been marching for months full of dysentery and probably worse.
      They crossed the river by luck and necessity. They had no other option.
      They reached their chosen ground and slaughtered a superior enemy.
      Luck, judgement I don’t know.
      But I’m fairly sure it was the English army’s last throw.

  • @qshed
    @qshed 2 роки тому +1

    I have just found your channel an so glad.
    I remember be inspired by you as the Warwick bowman
    I now shoot an English long bow at my local club

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому +1

      Well Hi Jo, and welcome to the channel. I'm glad I helped you take up the longbow ;-)

  • @tabularasa7350
    @tabularasa7350 2 роки тому

    Thank you, this was enlightening and profound and now it makes all sense.

  • @blindarchershaunhenderson3769
    @blindarchershaunhenderson3769 2 роки тому +28

    And don't forget a favourite secondary weapon, the "maul", the big heavy wooden hammer used to drive the stakes into the ground which formed the Chilton, which brought the cavalry to a stop, any nights thrown from horseback would be battered using these great heavy hammers, the poor French didn't really stand a chance.

    • @michaelfoster5577
      @michaelfoster5577 2 роки тому +1

      Schiltron, not Chilton, otherwise a good and very valid comment.

    • @XX-rq2ox
      @XX-rq2ox 2 роки тому +2

      Whatever : most of the killed have been made, following Henry V orders, on helpless prisonners. So the "deadly weapon" during this battle were knifes used to cut throats.

    • @thatguyinelnorte
      @thatguyinelnorte 2 роки тому +4

      @@XX-rq2ox The French intended to kill the English. They would not have taken any prisoners among the bowmen. Don't throw your misunderstanding of the Geneva Convention on the warriors of 1415.

    • @XX-rq2ox
      @XX-rq2ox 2 роки тому

      @@thatguyinelnorte "They would not have taken any prisoners among the bowmen." of course you have sources about that? And whatever it does not change anything of my talking (knifes).
      "Don't throw your misunderstanding of the Geneva Convention on the warriors of 1415": Speaking about misunderstanding I've never throw any "Geneva Convention" here, you do. I just talk about fact: that the deadly weapon in Agincourt was the knife used to kill cut throat of prisonners. You may like it or not but that's not the point, as it's a fact that "Heni V" was totaly not an "humanist king' as he put prisonners in barns to burn them,, crush their heads with mace. That are also just facts.

    • @thatguyinelnorte
      @thatguyinelnorte 2 роки тому +1

      @@XX-rq2ox the only prisoners taken by either side were those likely to be ransomed, i.e., nobles or royals. And from the English point of view, the French fighting Henry were all rebels and traitors, so killing prisoners after the French killed the boys "guarding" the tents and baggage, was not really any more out of line than anything else.
      War is never humane. It's legalized mass murder.

  • @marksadler4104
    @marksadler4104 2 роки тому

    Two main advantages that the British had in the battle was firstly, the flanks of the battlefield were trees, the direction was such that it was a sort of a funnel shape meaning that the oncoming French Cavalryman were converging so the bowmen ( a lot were Welsh, not just English) wouldn't just aim as a 'general carpet" fire but as a tight grouping. Secondly, the night or days before the battle, there was a lot of rain so the ground was very soft, compounded with the weight of the heavy armour the French Cavalryman were carry, it was extremely heavy going for the horses so their charge would be much slower than if it was done on harder ground. Effectively, this turned into a literal "turkey shoot". With the chaos which ensued, the Cavalrymen were dropping, not only on soft ground where it was very very difficult to get up but also on their own infantry/armed peasants. This all results in a chaotic, unorganized mass of French which was then routed....

  • @MrArthoz
    @MrArthoz 6 місяців тому

    Came back to watch this after your recent video about Agincourt to get more context about the English archers.
    Seen so many misunderstanding people have about archers in fantasy and gaming. As an archer myself, I keep telling people, for someone who could easily pull a bow of a hundred pounds or more...you don't want to get into melee with that person. He could easily wring out your guts with his bare hands.

  • @davidwilkins683
    @davidwilkins683 2 роки тому +1

    I watched a tv doc some years ago, when actor (and longbow expert) Robert Hardy and colleagues demonstrated the power of the longbow.....with the tip they used, it could penetrate chain mail easily.

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому +1

      That's right, arrows will go through chainmail for sure. I've tested this in the past and when the snow clears, I plan to do another test for the channel
      Thanks for watching. 👍🏻

  • @PatNetherlander
    @PatNetherlander 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you Kevin for this wonderful insight in a historical epic battle! Enjoyed every bit of your tale. Wished we were at a hearths fire with a good roast and a nice whiskey! Cheers mate!

  • @bulletproofpepper2
    @bulletproofpepper2 Рік тому

    Well said. Thanks for sharing.

  • @cutlass71469
    @cutlass71469 2 роки тому

    You paint a picture with your excellent description. I could see everything. I just subscribed.

  • @johncartwright8154
    @johncartwright8154 2 роки тому +4

    Great narrative sir! I wonder if the plentitude of the heavy shafts used at the time, stuck in the ground after the loose would be a contributing factor to the chaos as a trip hazard.

  • @retiredteacher724
    @retiredteacher724 2 роки тому

    Thank you for a wonderful explanation! I really enjoy your way of telling the tale of history! It becomes real! Did you teach history at one time? In the 60s I had a professor whose father had been a federal judge here in NC USA. This professor told us of his life and the history he had seen. I usually forgot to take notes! He, just as you are, was enthralling!

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому

      Yes, I’ve taught history in schools for over 25 years, but never as a ‘teacher’, always as a freelance. I must have taught in almost 1000 schools over the years. 😊
      Thanks for your kind words

  • @johnpauldavis1967
    @johnpauldavis1967 2 роки тому +1

    Another great story. Thanks Kev n Julie :-)

  • @fancymcclean6210
    @fancymcclean6210 2 роки тому +3

    Wonderful stuff. I've always loved Kevin's longbow videos. Interesting insight into the battle. I've subscribed. Flaxen Saxon.

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому

      Thank you Flaxen Saxon, there's plenty more to come. 👍🏻

  • @mr_camperator
    @mr_camperator 2 роки тому

    There's not a single video that i have seen so far being a dissapointment, my absolute respect for this man and his passionate take on History, specially the military one
    Ps: May i beg for a video of some spanish history? ;)

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому

      Yes, eventually I'll get to some Spanish history, it's on my list already 😉

  • @NunyaBesnas
    @NunyaBesnas 2 роки тому

    Short and sweet! Well done.

  • @roytetwart
    @roytetwart 2 роки тому

    I only came across your channel tonight. Fascinating stuff. Excellent audio and visual. I've just subscribed and I'm
    looking forward to digging out more!

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому

      Thanks and welcome aboard, they'll be lots more to come as well

  • @Nimno74
    @Nimno74 2 роки тому +1

    I recommend watching Tod's Workshop's videos and testing... also good conversation with Toby Capwell.

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому +2

      For sure Tod has a great channel. I hope you've enjoyed watching this channel too though 👍🏻

    • @Nimno74
      @Nimno74 2 роки тому +1

      @@thehistorysquad Indeed I have. I meant specifically the Tod vids about longbows and Agincourt. The testing was pretty thorough and extensive.

  • @terrystephens1102
    @terrystephens1102 2 роки тому

    Thanks Kevin, don’t get too excited 👌😁👏👏👏👏❤️

  • @davepowell7168
    @davepowell7168 2 роки тому +4

    Great to hear it from someone who knows what he's talking about, even if it's very slightly elaborated upon by his great grandfather who was really there. Thanks for the insights Kevin 😉

    • @callumclark3358
      @callumclark3358 2 роки тому

      Thought it was his dad! 🤣

    • @jallan9578
      @jallan9578 2 роки тому

      I suspect it would have been a good few 'greats' prior to his grandfather, to have borne witness to Agincourt!

    • @davepowell7168
      @davepowell7168 2 роки тому

      @@jallan9578 Jest not Joust Sir..

    • @jallan9578
      @jallan9578 2 роки тому

      @@davepowell7168:
      Sorry!
      I obviously missed the jest vs the joust!
      Or the joust vs the jest!
      And you may forget the 'sir'! I am in little need of assistance, in being reminded of my age! 🙄

    • @davepowell7168
      @davepowell7168 2 роки тому

      @@jallan9578 Being retired myself l can't remember you, we met at Agincourt ? I was less forgetful when Harry wotsit was king.

  • @Josef12056
    @Josef12056 Рік тому

    A great descriiption of what happened, add to that the noise, the screams, the smells and the chaos and one gets the full picture. One thing that might also have happened was that the French knights underestimated the English bowmen's courage. I am sure that the French wouldn't have shown any mercy whatsoever if they had won the battle.

  • @kellybreen5526
    @kellybreen5526 2 роки тому

    I stumbled onto this channel, watched the video and subscribed.
    I think you captured the visceral experience of what the battle would have been like for the participants.

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому

      Hi Kelly, thanks for the sub, it's appreciated 👍🏻
      You might also like the Hundred Years War series I'm currently doing. ua-cam.com/video/BDugcgtGmxQ/v-deo.html

  • @BRIANFORWARD1
    @BRIANFORWARD1 2 роки тому

    What a great guy
    You sir BRING HISTORY ALIVE..

  • @JGD185
    @JGD185 2 роки тому +5

    If you could live in any time period, which would it be?

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому +1

      Hmmm, interesting question. I think I'd like to have been one of John Hawkwood's men at Crecy and then following him down into Italy as a Free Company man. But part of me pulls in another direction WW1, what shines from that conflict above all else is the comradeship.

  • @jdstocco84
    @jdstocco84 5 місяців тому

    Loved this episode, sir!

  • @IbnBahtuta
    @IbnBahtuta 2 роки тому

    I could feel the hair on the back of my neck rising. I've watched uploads on Agincourt and it always triggers me. Thanks for the upload and buzz. :-)

  • @NLBusiness391
    @NLBusiness391 Рік тому

    Sweet Jesus, a storm of arrows sounds like one of the most terrifying situations one could experience. You’re left to hope you get lucky enough not get get struck. I can’t even imagine the psychological state one has to get into to even propel themselves towards the enemy in that situation.

  • @Vidis88
    @Vidis88 2 роки тому

    well deserved cup of tee! Thanks

  • @nor0845
    @nor0845 2 роки тому

    Jason Kingsley from Modern History TV (UA-cam) does some very good explanations and demonstrations of the very things Kevin describes here regarding knights in combat. Highly recommend.
    Another great video. You really bring things alive with your descriptions and story telling!

  • @jumpfortyfour9965
    @jumpfortyfour9965 2 роки тому

    history brought to life thank you

  • @micklee721
    @micklee721 Рік тому

    Haha! Bloody wonderful! Very well done as always!

  • @xThatFlipx
    @xThatFlipx 2 роки тому +17

    Hi Kevin, great video! Would you consider doing a reaction video on historically accurate (or innaccurate) medieval tv shows or movies such as The Hollow crown, Henry V, Monty Python, etc? Would love to hear your insight or comments on the medieval era portrayed in media.

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому +7

      Great suggestion! I'll take a look at this for a Q&A session.

    • @johnsamu
      @johnsamu 2 роки тому +3

      Always thought Monty Python was a REALISTIC representation of medieval knights, another illusion scattered 😉😁

  • @Dave_The_Musical_Fisherman
    @Dave_The_Musical_Fisherman 2 роки тому

    2 vids watched and I can already say I wish I had subscribed on the first. Well done!

  • @Locahaskatexu
    @Locahaskatexu 2 роки тому +2

    I also seem to recall Mike Loades in his documentary "Going Medieval" (at least I think it was that one...) estimating that if the archers were really shooting as in the myths about the Battle of Agincourt, they'd have needed something like a quarter of a million arrows for an hour of sustained shooting, just to keep every archer supplied with enough arrows to keep them shooting for the duration. Can't recall the exact numbers, but it was an insane amount of arrows at any rate.

    • @RichWoods23
      @RichWoods23 2 роки тому +2

      Juliet Barker's excellent book 'Agincourt' goes into some detail about the likely production of war supplies in readiness for Henry V's campaign, using surviving Exchequer rolls. I can only recall a few numbers off the top of my head, but the Royal Armouries produced several million arrows in 1414; one order alone from the London Armoury was for the purchase of 1.1 million goose feathers. On top of that, bowyers, fletchers and archers from across the entirety of England and Wales would be taking the opportunity to earn a bit of extra cash by making longbows, bowstrings, arrow bags and arrows to sell to the armoury in each major city (or to provide as part of the duty they owed to their liege lord). It was said that not a goose in England had any flight feathers left by moulting time, and that after his 1415 campaign Henry issued an edict banning certain timbers from being used to make any item other than bowstaves or arrow shafts.

  • @ΓρηγορηςΓυροπουλος

    I recently subscribed to your channel and i must say that i REALLY enjoy your videos! Cheers from Greece,my good Sir...😁

  • @neophyte1994
    @neophyte1994 2 роки тому

    I've always been amazed by the war horses. Giant beasts packed with muscle. The ones I met as a kid were the horses at the riding school that I was forced to watch for hours, because my mother would think it would be nice to watch our nieces ride in some tournaments weekly. thanks nieces. I wasn't allowed to run there or yell because it might scare the horses and they would panic and sabotage and throw the girls off.
    Now to imagine a charging cavalry attack. Screaming of soldiers, arrows flying, blood, maybe some horses get struck by arrows and they would just do exactly what the riders want and keep galloping straight into certain carnage and death.
    How do the knights keep their horses under control?

  • @craigthescott5074
    @craigthescott5074 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome content Kevin. I collect arms and armor from the 1500’s I’m especially proud of a close helmet that I own. My heads a little too big to close it but it fits my 23 year old son perfectly. Can’t imagine fighting with all that steel on looking through that narrow slit. My helmet is German and it’s got many contact marks. I wish it could talk.

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому +1

      Wow, that's amazing. When I worked at Warwick Castle, I tried on a couple of 15th Century helmets and as you say they're very uncomfortable and difficult to see through but the one I cherished trying on was none other than Oliver Cromwell's helmet, but hidden away was some of the garrison armour from the Eng Civil War and some of these pots were converted from medieval helmets. Thanks for watching and your comment

    • @craigthescott5074
      @craigthescott5074 2 роки тому +1

      @@thehistorysquad thank you I’m a subscriber now. I visited the Edinburgh Castle in 2019 when I took a tour of Great Britain for 10 days. They have an awesome arms and armor collection. Can’t wait to go back after Covid is all over. My family Scott comes from the border lands so I plan on renting a car and driving around the border area. But I really liked being able to go see Great Britain. I’m the first of my family to travel back since my ancestors came to America. I can’t describe the feeling I felt when I stepped on Scottish soil for the first time.

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому +2

      @@craigthescott5074 I visited Edinburgh Castle when I was in the army, my mate and I got so drunk we somehow ended up waking up on the roof of the Castle 😳, it was a bloody long way up

    • @craigthescott5074
      @craigthescott5074 2 роки тому +1

      @@thehistorysquad great story.

  • @Muritaipet
    @Muritaipet 2 роки тому

    Well done sir. A beautiful and realistic description.

  • @robertcorradi8573
    @robertcorradi8573 2 роки тому

    Excellent..... Thank you for such an honest appraisal. 👍

  • @ManyfiresWoman
    @ManyfiresWoman 2 роки тому

    Fascinating stuff! I really did enjoy learning something I had never even thought about.

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому

      Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching 👍🏻

  • @johnsamu
    @johnsamu 2 роки тому +43

    Instead of overhyping the "magical powers" of the longbow, you gave a more sobre representation of what actually might have happened. Which was probably more like a chaotic physical struggle in a muddy crowded field.

    • @jallan9578
      @jallan9578 2 роки тому

      The longbow certainly didn't possess any magical power(s)!
      What it DID possess - which the crossbow didn't - was range! Straight in front (not too literally); AND vertically!

    • @MAGAman-uy7wh
      @MAGAman-uy7wh 2 роки тому +4

      @@jallan9578 Don't forget the longbow could shoot many more arrows in less time. This is what gave it the "crowd control" effect.

    • @jallan9578
      @jallan9578 2 роки тому

      @@MAGAman-uy7wh:
      Can't say whether it did, or didn't! I haven't looked at those statistics.
      Though those skilled longbow bowmen could undoubtedly shoot very fast, and very accurately!

    • @hermandadams
      @hermandadams 2 роки тому +1

      the long bow still had the 4/5 times the range and accuracy than of the cross bow, combined together it was a deadly superior weapon in the battle zone the crossbow was cumbersome heavy and slow to reload compared to the longbow, simply it was not battle field compatible due to the materials and design available at the time, resting on concrete and stone battlements maybe it was a different story

    • @victornewman9904
      @victornewman9904 2 роки тому

      Agreed. Henry's genius was to engage the French army in front of them, and pull them into nice, funnelled killing ground; instead of waiting for the other 2/3 to arrive and get swamped.

  • @CIMAmotor
    @CIMAmotor 2 роки тому +1

    Tarquin took his name from a Monty Python sketch, really funny.

  • @williamkz
    @williamkz 2 роки тому +18

    Very convincing. I've read many versions of Agincourt and this version has the ring of truth. We will never know what really happened, but it's likely that more French were killed in hand to hand combat rather than by arrows.

  • @whistlingbadger
    @whistlingbadger 2 роки тому +2

    How well armored were the horses? You mentioned the rump being a target. How about the chest or throat, or even the legs? Legs are a small target, but with several hundred or thousand archers and a massed cavalry target, many hits to the horses legs could be made, which could be devastating with heavy arrows and bodkin points. I would think the archers would simply aim to kill, cripple, or even terrify the horses, thus disabling the knights. Am I correct, or were there effective ways to protect the horses as well?
    I have been hunting with wooden bows for years, and the past couple years I've been making my own. I really enjoy your videos. Please keep them coming!

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks for your question, a good one for a Q&A Time video me thinks. In part 3/4 (coming up) of the Hundred Years War series, you'll discover at the battle of Crecy how the horses were dealt with. Later on in the Hundred Years War, horses were so well armoured at the front and were dealt with in so many different ways.
      ua-cam.com/play/PLZ5bkawra-DiRDbgOwOQAOcrWp6uP-uLz.html

  • @Jack-uy7ie
    @Jack-uy7ie 2 роки тому +1

    I think a key aspect was the shrapnel effect from a arrow hitting armour head on. Upon impact a modern archer proved that even if the arrow didn't pierce it could potentially splinter and slip under the helmet or into the various weak points.

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  2 роки тому +2

      That's right Jack, just like in Henry V's case at Shrewsbury 👍🏻

  • @richardh1764
    @richardh1764 2 роки тому

    New subscribers, I enjoyed your enthusiasm.

  • @pennydunwell7005
    @pennydunwell7005 2 роки тому

    First time watching you really enjoyed that thanks