Toyota have been doing some really cool stuff lately. GR Yaris, GR Carolla, Supra, GR86. When they go the other way from power to efficiency with Prius, hybrid Camry and even a RAV4 can get easily under 5 liters per 100km.
@@ACommenterOnUA-cam If it was Lexus Yaris, I'd agree with you in that it's not Toyota. But, TDR (Toyota Development Racing) and GR is in house Toyota development teams.
The funny thing about 3-cylinders is that they sound powerful, even if they aren't. We have a Toyota Aygo with a 1L 69hp engine, and it's not a performance car by any means, but it sounds like one, which is really amusing.
I guess people have different standards when it comes to exhaust sound. The GR Yaris while being an awesome car sounds like a sad vacuum cleaner. They even give you the option to play artificial exhaust sound in the cabin. Even with custom exhausts the GR Yaris makes little noise, sadly enough.
@@savagesock3598 Especially Teslas will. They reach 1.000.000 km with still 80% battery capacity, whereas ICEs already have a significant power drop after 300.000 km.
Regarding the Koenigsegg Gemera, I think some more information is important: They achieve their 600hp with their 3cyl TFG Engine with the help of two turbos, a displacement of 2L and their camless design. It doesn't use camshafts and regular valves but rather pneumatic actuators which can be controlled individually.
That's right, but freevalve tech really is the future; less parts, more tuning control, better reliability more power.. what's not to like? They have also rated the TFG engine to still output about 280hp if it was naturally aspirated. that's freaking insane for 3 cylinders!
Simplicity is the key to that engine. I have a 2014 Chevy Volt. The gas motor is only 90HP and it’s fine for most conditions. Imagine how small the Koenigsegg could be for 100HP? Hybrids are great for cross country driving. Don’t need all of the charging stations. The US is big. Most all electrics work for city commuting.
lmao lots of people ran the ae86 with the special parts online but i actually found the celica with the special parts as good or better plus it had an awesome widebody option
@@Malinkadink the AE86 is the fastest circuit car in NFSU2. There was a special way to tune the car so that it would take corners like it was on rails. It was almost impossible to drive because it was extremely twitchy when tuned properly. You could take pretty much any turn in 6th gear. I received the special tuning instructions from the game devs. It was unbeatable.
I've seen a GR Yaris with 500Bhp, they said they could get more with things like upgraded pistons etc. but 500 was the max limit they wanted to go without risking engine damage.
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@@samunaesi7727 i heard motive is working on it with another manufacturer on a head Gasket, head bolts are fine, they just changed it because ... they can. Fun part is that you can still run quarter mile races with 525hp or more you just have to change the head gasket regularely haha
The aussies made 500whp But blew head gasket .. running TONS of dyno pulls and trips to the circuit and drag strip. They beat the crap out of that car from day one up all the way up to 500whp So 400whp is prob a safe #
Then they would need the 2 three cylinder engines working separate, One reason it is so powerful is cylinder pulses, thats why it only needs a single scroll turbo, i have been told.
Why would they though ? The B58 is a masterpiece, and just about the best modern engine design of them all currently. Plus it's closed deck block not open as this video makes says, so can handle a lot more power.
I’m already for seeing the hyperutectic pistons being a weak spot in the future at high mileage. Subaru used the same type of cast pistons in almost all their turbocharged engines. The ringlands would typically blow out after lots of miles and/or when people got them tuned up for big power.
Mainly because Mercedes are fine having that engine closer to the limit, the block on the 1.6 can handle more power on stock internals though, because it's cylinder walls are thicker.
As a car community moving forward we have to get over this "parts sharing" argument especially when it comes to sports cars. We live in the time of crossovers, companies need to share development cost. If they don't just like we added the Evo and the STI to the list, the rest will follow. I'm sorry I do not want to live in a world where the entry level sports car is starting at 60k+. So we should definitely encourage co-development.
@Spike16 it's just like in the Porsche community. They complain about every advancement in the newest generation of 911. While ranting about, how great their air-cooled, rust bucket is superior to every car on the planet.
@@gwot I can understand that sentiment, the manufacturers that collaborated on the vehicle. Do their own individual twist, but share a power train and chassis.
The advantage of a Ball Bearing turbo is not response, they don't spool an faster than a journal bearing, the advantage is it keeps the turbine shaft in place against twisting forces so on heavy acceleration, deceleration, or corner load, you don't have to worry about the shaft pushing through the oil layer and tilting, smashing your turbine/compressor wheels into the housing at 100,000rpm
500 hp ish is about the limit of stock engine internals without creating big problems/self detonating. Kinda interesting to see how forged internals and head tuning can do. One thing about 3 cyl is it's inherently unbalanced. Will be tricky to increase rpm on those huge cylinder on inline 3 config without destroying itself.
There is one thing that consumers are demanding. Tiny motorcycles, like the Ninja 250cc 4 cylinder which used to be a thing... And tiny cars with turbochargers, and tiny engines. Tiny stuff is just as cool. But you can't make junk. Nobody wants a single cylinder Honda 300cc motorcycle. But if you make a Ninja 250cc motorcycle with a screaming 4 cylinder race inspired engine, then you've got something that is awesome. Thankfully Kawasaki is the most bad ass company, and they are actually bringing the 250cc 4 cylinder Ninja to the USA and UK.
It's interesting how seadoo has a 1.5l 300 HP supercharged 3 cylinder for years in their upper jet ski models. It makes you wonder how much stronger Toyotas version is
@@liamhargreaves7135 interesteing you saw that because the seadoo engine has a closed loop cooling. That way temperature is regulated by the thermostat like a car
Lord knows Toyota is building just about anything if they really wanted. They’ve built engines that will easily rev above 8k, 100hp/liter N/A engines, ridiculously smooth engines, ridiculously reliable engines, they said they could make a 3JZ that makes 600hp, but they won’t because it isn’t monetarily effective. So far though people have gotten to 450ish whp on stock head bolts before the head lifts and blows the headgasket
This GR corolla is the first time toyota gave us EVERYTHING we wanted. Turbo awd 300hp manual hatchback that and it looks good. Im still having a hard time believing this is really happening.
I think it would be worth mentioning that the Yaris' 1.6L engine isn't deliberately smaller than 2.0L. The for quite some time now WRC regulations require that cars must have 1.6L to homologate. Of course the production version (GR Yaris) didn't need to follow that, but Toyota still decides to use the same engine they install in the racing vehicles.
@@theocousins6386 The regulation for Rally1 engines is restricted to a 1.6L 4-cyl turbo configuration. (Coupled with a spec hybrid system) While regulation for Rally2 engine has a bit more freedom on how many cylinders it can use as long as it does not exceed 4-cyl and has a 1.6L of displacement, which resulted in the birth of G16E-GTS. The same engine from the road car can now be found inside the currently-in-development GR Yaris Rally2 and even before that it is also used for the GR Yaris AP4 (Rally2 equivalent)
toyota has been using 3 cylinder engines in some cars in Brazil for a long time already. They are usually 1.3l or 1.5l natural aspirated, not turbocharged. There have been multiple cars going over 1.000.000 Kms without any works to the engine
Dont think ive seen anyone mention the BRP X3 motor. Its not even 1L at only 900cc with 3 cylinders and a turbo making 200hp stock. Can easily make 300+ HP with supporting mods and a tune. Some billet block X3's have made upwards of 600+ (EVP Huslter)
In Formula 1, there are no regulations for the amount of power a team can use in their cars. There are engine specifications thought, which needs to be complied to. The specifications are four-stroke, turbocharged 1.6 liter, 90 degree V6 turbo engines. The maximum engine power rotational speed is 15,000 revolutions per minute (rpm). 1050HP for 2022.
Toyota is killing it in right now. They have The GR Line for the enthusiast. Toyota Mirai for the Future. Their new Dynamic Force engine designed with Synthetic Fuel and Alternative power such as hydrogen. The future is exciting for them This is all happening probably because the company is run by a Man who actually love cars and driving and he have a complete control of the company.
@@gorgthesalty Supra, Corolla, and 86 is. If I remember correctly. I don't care though. I am not living there. But unfortunately the GR Corolla most likely unavailable for us as it is focused to be sold in US
My Triumph Speed Triple 1.2L 3cyl motorcycle puts out 180hp. That puts Toyota’s engine in the sport motorcycle performance class!😯. Three cylinders makes lots of torque over 4.
I’ve heard there are rumors of a torque converter automatic version of this to come out so if you aren’t a manual fan maybe wait till next year for that auto!
@@thejman3489 You right, but some old dude at a drag strip once told me, stick is for a car enthusiast, auto is for a car enthusiast who wants to go fast. I like stick, but auto is absolutely the best option if you're looking for raw, flat out speed.
I liked the video, but there is not a single explanation as to how they willl make this reliable, if anything this engine seems to be made with worst decisions for reliability (cast aliuminium, open deck). How will they do it? Did they sacrifice the long term reliability?
btw, a good mention of an engine making over 200 hp per liter stock is the Mercedes 45s (same engine whether it's an A series, GLA series, CLA series, and so on)
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Gazoo Racing should honor tradition and see what magic Yamaha engineers can do for the G16E. Then place whatever monster that partnership produces and place it in the 86 and you'll have a trueborn heir to the AE86.
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I think he probably should have mentioned that another difference between open deck and closed deck designs is that open decks have more cooling for each cylinder because it is completely surrounded by coolant as u can see in the video. But only having that circle of aluminum as the wall of each cylinder isn't as strong as a closed deck design. The closed deck design only has coolant passages scattered through out the block with most of it being solid. Maybe that will help non-car people understand it a little better. Its basically a trade-off between strength and cooling. Just thought I'd throw that out there lol great video tho!
Maybe the head could be cast in the block? It isn't common to have to remove the head on a late model engine anymore - the major reason that occurs is to replace a failed head gasket.
as an american, the hypereutectic pistons make me a little nervous since our oils are more acidic. We've already seen what happens to the subarus but I think the oil jet cooling system and open deck should help with that
If I'm not mistaken aren't most modern vehicles using hypereutectic pistons? Sort of a compromise between cast and forged pistons I thought. I'm beginning to think this is a troll comment lol.
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Toyota still has the potential to make badass shit. MASSIVE props to the fantastic engineers for making such a punchy little engine. 300hp on a 3cyl... absolute madness. Good madness
@@tecnogadget2 they wanted to run the engine in WRC so it should be good for 500+ and has to stay alive multiple rallye stages. 800 for short time with the right parts might be possible.
@@DjNikGnashers i wouldn't say it's super special, it's just there has never been a 3 cylinder which has been considered as a true sportscar engine, so tuning it might be different and it's i think it's very interesting how far we can take it. I see potential in it but thats just my opinion in the end :) everyone has to decide for themself if they want to consider it as special or not.
Now reverse engineer it into a twin-turbo hybrid v6 with 600hp and torque vectoring, rear-wheel steering, and stuff it into an mr2 supercar. Literally throw all the tech at it. Make a comfy luxury GT trim/version under the Lexus brand as well. Then Profit. What about the LFA? Who ever said you had to only have one halo car? Look at Ferrari and McLaren for ideas.
But when you think about bike engines ( the top tier ) the ninja h2r to be specific it produces 365 HP and it's just a one litre engine but yes it's 4 cylinder supercharged engine
Motorcycles make the most power at high revs unlike engines found in production cars. Car engines being revved to that limit would result in catastrophe lol
The H2R uses a two speed centrifugal supercharger and as it was a non street legal bike. It doesn't need to last as long compared to its street legal counterpart the H2 which makes about 100 HP less than H2R. It is a racing bikes. The 1.6 L engine in Rally cars makes around 500 hp and then the 1.6 L is what powered the monster in formula one pushing around 1000 hp. Both of this were hybrid though
You wouldn't want to drive a car on the street with a supersport bike engines design. Try actually riding a 600cc inline 4 around a city and you'll understand. The low rpm power doesn't exist, or rather is dependingon how light the vehicle is. Those inline race bikes don't care about 0-60, they're designed for track. You'd be getting beat off the line by every car (unless you're intentionally dumping your clutch and over-reving every takeoff) and speeding by them at 100 at the next light. Completely impractical power to weight ratio for off-track. fun engines to scream around on though.
@@AmeriMutt76 have you ridden a supersport 600? they do 0-60 in around 3 seconds when pushed (that's a street bike, a race bike probably closer to 2 seconds), and 6 seconds is a gentle pull away. Just saying 👍🍺🇬🇧
no literature or mention of any kind, and Toyota never hides the fact if Yamaha had a hand with anything, in fact they even advertise it sometimes, so that leaves me to believe Yamaha didn't have a direct connection to this engine.
Surprisingly, no. At least not from what I’ve seen in Toyota’s releases adverts, or in a car magazines. (Places like car n driver) and I doubt they’d hide it, I have a 2ZZ-GE and it has Yamaha stamped right into the timing cover, super easy to see
As a yaris owner i can say that the boost kicks in at around 3k rpm, not too terrible of a turbo lag for how much bar it produces then Also tbh i like that, the 3k are reched fast and then the kick you get from the back Typical japanese drive feeling
As another GR driver I can vouch that the Yaris picks up speed from low revs far more quickly than does a Golf R. Mit May be a weight thing, but the 3 pot is relatively far more torquey.
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If you have a turbo to force the air inside the engine then it's less important to have more valves available to suck the air in without restriction like in an atmospheric engine.
Sounds like a great motor and well thought out but I doubt it will last. Will probably have piston problems due to high rev. Making 300hp off 3 cylinders won't be very healthy for it, but I'm sure it will be a great drift motor.
i sir agree..100hp per cylinder is a great strain on the internal parts, plus, who knows how long the turbo will last. if the turbo does fail, then your stuck with a basic 3 cylinder engine. i know that Toyota knows their shit, but longevity is what they strive for and i can't see this engine lasting 10 years or longer..perhaps..if driven hard, 3-4 years then replacement will be necessary.
All Americans (like myself) who whined and complained about not getting the GR Yaris should be super thankful we got the Corolla. I’d argue the circuit edition is the best looking modern hot hatch of the past decade!
@@beenmicrophone5817 It appears that the engine block was *WAY* overengineered for durability, probably because of its intended used in a WRC rally car. I've read that the engine is capable of generating 450 bhp quite reliably.
3 cylinders in general generate a lot more vibration than 4 cylinders especially in 4 stroke form which most car engines use today. The reason for the massive increase in vibration is that 3 cylinders in cars also lack a power strokes for 25% on average for each crank revolution which causes the crank to decelerate and accelerate resulting in more vibration. Only advantages of 3 cylinders is that it’s a bit smaller for its displacement improving packaging, and manufacturers can go in a parts bin and create a 3 cylinder as a smaller engine.
Triumph make some awesome 3 cylinder engines with T plane cranks which dish out amazing midrange torque. These aren't parts bin engines with a piston looped of though, they're built from the ground up. Their flat plane version can get 180bhp from a naturally aspirated 1.2 litre.
@@gerardmontgomery280 Yeah but that's a motorcycle. Cars are basically tractors in comparison. A Panigale can get 234hp out of 1 liter. Bikes don't need nearly as much torque to move because they weigh as little as 10% of "performance" cars, so they can make huge power numbers by trading torque for revs, which is what the good lord intended. edit: spelling
That really is the million dollar question. They could have made a more powerful 2.0 4 cylinder producing more torque with less boost than the highly strung 3 cylinder.
My only thought is, if they made a inline 3, why wouldn’t/couldn’t they make a V6 that’s just two of these 1.6s bolted together… I hope we see 3.2LTT in trucks based on this motor.
Funny thing is the inline 3 turbo is likely more fuel efficient than most, besides hybrids. Honestly someone can probably find parts to make this thing a fast, fuel sipping beast.
Despite what Toyota's marketing department told everyone back of the relase of the YR Yaris. It's engine even back then was still not the most powerful 3cyl production engine at the time. That went to the Rotex 1630 ACE; a 1.5L 3cyl supercharged engine making 300hp (220kw) which is widely used in A variety of Seado personal watercraft and jet boats.
@@druscanam You are correct but when peoples say "production engine" they mean production engine for cars only. We do not specify each times that we are speaking about cars only, it's just common sens lol
@@druscanam if you hear “production engine” during a press release for a passenger vehicle like this they don’t include stuff like Skidoo’s, it just isn’t fair to
@@BreizhVince There are many engines that cross over between ground vechiles and marine, both in cars, boats jetskis, motorcycles ect.. If they claimed to have the most powerful production 3 cylinder engine in an on road passenger vechiles then fair enough however they said the most powerful 3cyl production engine period. Toyota are right is saying the Yaris was fitted with most powerful product 3 cylinder production engine, however unless they specify to be fitted to a passenger vechile its not only misleading it's factually wrong. Ford too can also boast the same claim that their Fiesta ST has the most powerful 3 cylinder productiin engine, cause it does. The most powerful 3cyl to ever be used in a Fiesta as well as the most powerful 3cy production l to be used in a Ford and they would also be right doing so, however if they left that last bit of information out couldn't you see how it too would be misleading as well as not factually accurate? Just poiting out a fact and everyone seems to be but hurt.
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Toyota did a great job lately ! Making super fun cars even tho it's codevelop with other car manufacture (BMW and Subaru) but atleast Toyota didn't completely lost it sportscar making ability... Mad respect 👏👏
Wish we'd get this in europe. The Yaris is great and all, but for a daily the interior just is way too cheap and nasty for my taste. After all you're laying down like 35.000€ for a subcompact car, wish they would've done something to at least make the interior feel like it isn't from a 12.000€ car.
@@binskee677 nah that's not true. I'm talking about adding a bit of leather or alcantara here and there, not about making an all new interior. Would probably add a couple hundred bucks at best.
@@cy9nvs ok yea they could do that although i think leather would not really fit the car somehow. I think it's cool that it is so basic inside. And they have actually added alcantara here and there in the doors for example. It doesn't feel much cheaper than my M2competition, the BMW has some carbon inside but thats it. What i don't like the gauge in Yaris.
@@binskee677 dude it feels *much* cheaper. Just cheap nasty plastics everywhere, terrible infotainment, terribly small screen etc. Not a nice place to be in.
@@cy9nvs but none of it bothers me while enjoying the car. I think if someone cares so much about the interior, it's the wrong car for them in the first place.
As a Miata guy, I'm not surprised a 1.6 turbo can make 300hp. But to have it factory made is crazy to think about.
Don't be silly, Miata's can't push 300bhp reliably 😅✌️
Now imagine the koenigsegg TFG weighing only 70kg/150 pounds in a miata. 600hp featherweight deathbox.
@@JLneonhug agree
@@Busy-B. and now imagine the price lmao
@@JLneonhug 346 Whp 250 Wtq for 2.5 years. Just do it right the first time and things usually work.
Toyota just need to bring back the MR2 to give this little power plant the home it deserves!
Oh yes! A convertible 4WD MR2 with this engine. Yes please!!! 😍😍😍
Affordable mid engined car with a manual, awd, and a real handbrake. Only need one kidney and lung anyway...
they should glue two of these engines together and make a V6 with 600hp
No one wants a 4WD MR2
@@luked4587 Some tuner in Japan built an AE86 with the G16 engine and still RWD
Toyota have been doing some really cool stuff lately. GR Yaris, GR Carolla, Supra, GR86. When they go the other way from power to efficiency with Prius, hybrid Camry and even a RAV4 can get easily under 5 liters per 100km.
The Toyota C-HR is also from the GR division
Not the Supra but yeah, some really cool stuff coming out of Toyota.
@@VigneshBalasubramaniam Shut up mate
it s NOT Toyota, its Gazoo Racing like TRD is
@@ACommenterOnUA-cam If it was Lexus Yaris, I'd agree with you in that it's not Toyota. But, TDR (Toyota Development Racing) and GR is in house Toyota development teams.
It's amazing that this tiny 3 cylinder engine puts out the same amount of power as the 6 cylinder turbo engine in an early nineties Nissan Z.
My 07 accord is a V6 with a hair under 250hp. It's not the slowest car ever made. This has half the cylinders and more power.
Almost 30 year difference in engineering and technology ...not fir nothing but what did yiu expect ?
@@TragickSinright lol
Lol I am waiting for the day where turbo 1 cylinder engine makes equal horsepower of 180hp similar mx5 (ND) miata which is a N/A inline four
It’s crazy how far Toyota has come. Definitely one of my favorite car brands for sure.
what's awesome is their warranty if you buy new no other brand can match it
What's even more impressive is the RI4AG racing engine by Toyota. a 2.0 I4 single turbo making 650 HP
@@IndoClaudioGTJapanese companies especially toyota is good at making tiny yet powerfull engines with high tuning potential
The funny thing about 3-cylinders is that they sound powerful, even if they aren't. We have a Toyota Aygo with a 1L 69hp engine, and it's not a performance car by any means, but it sounds like one, which is really amusing.
Tesla is laughing at this comment.
I guess people have different standards when it comes to exhaust sound. The GR Yaris while being an awesome car sounds like a sad vacuum cleaner. They even give you the option to play artificial exhaust sound in the cabin. Even with custom exhausts the GR Yaris makes little noise, sadly enough.
@@Mabeylater293 Teslas wont last as long lol
@@savagesock3598 Especially Teslas will. They reach 1.000.000 km with still 80% battery capacity, whereas ICEs already have a significant power drop after 300.000 km.
Oh my god yes! 😂
I have a 2006 Yaris 1L, I think it's the exact same engine, and when vvti kicks in it really has some pull And sounds like it too!
Regarding the Koenigsegg Gemera, I think some more information is important:
They achieve their 600hp with their 3cyl TFG Engine with the help of two turbos, a displacement of 2L and their camless design. It doesn't use camshafts and regular valves but rather pneumatic actuators which can be controlled individually.
pneumatic actuators open immediately therfore more air anf fuel can be pushed in while in normal cars the valves open and close linearly
@@N1lav they can also open at anytime enabling basically infinite cam timing options
That's right, but freevalve tech really is the future; less parts, more tuning control, better reliability more power.. what's not to like? They have also rated the TFG engine to still output about 280hp if it was naturally aspirated. that's freaking insane for 3 cylinders!
Simplicity is the key to that engine. I have a 2014 Chevy Volt. The gas motor is only 90HP and it’s fine for most conditions. Imagine how small the Koenigsegg could be for 100HP? Hybrids are great for cross country driving. Don’t need all of the charging stations. The US is big. Most all electrics work for city commuting.
Koenigsegg uses free valve tech
Finally a corolla that will be as fast as the one in NFSU2
lmao lots of people ran the ae86 with the special parts online but i actually found the celica with the special parts as good or better plus it had an awesome widebody option
@@Malinkadink the AE86 is the fastest circuit car in NFSU2. There was a special way to tune the car so that it would take corners like it was on rails. It was almost impossible to drive because it was extremely twitchy when tuned properly. You could take pretty much any turn in 6th gear. I received the special tuning instructions from the game devs. It was unbeatable.
I've seen a GR Yaris with 500Bhp, they said they could get more with things like upgraded pistons etc. but 500 was the max limit they wanted to go without risking engine damage.
Standard engine + ecu motec... 500hp bro
@@mahlok8210 Yep, standard internals!, i am still trying to get my head around it!
Insanity
500hp out of 3 cylinder is fabulous.
Wait what?? Stock internals with 500hp 🤯
Motive video in Sydney Australia, has pushed 500hp on the stock bottom end.
Can't push much further at the moment as it's starting to lift the head.
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Can’t wait for them to throw some head studs in them
The head gasket and head bolts are The biggest issue rn and The head gasket IS such a design that it is hard to manufacture in the after market
@@samunaesi7727 i heard motive is working on it with another manufacturer on a head Gasket, head bolts are fine, they just changed it because ... they can. Fun part is that you can still run quarter mile races with 525hp or more you just have to change the head gasket regularely haha
Which is crazy for such a tiny engine
The aussies made 500whp
But blew head gasket .. running TONS of dyno pulls and trips to the circuit and drag strip.
They beat the crap out of that car from day one up all the way up to 500whp
So 400whp is prob a safe #
just wait untill they solve the problem with a different gasket and stronger headbolts :D
@@DailyDotaTV Already solved now. Head stud kits available.
That would be awesome if they put two of these together to make an inline 6 for the next gen Supra
Now you're thinkin
I just have the same comments with different phases
Then they would need the 2 three cylinder engines working separate, One reason it is so powerful is cylinder pulses, thats why it only needs a single scroll turbo, i have been told.
Why would they though ?
The B58 is a masterpiece, and just about the best modern engine design of them all currently.
Plus it's closed deck block not open as this video makes says, so can handle a lot more power.
@@DjNikGnashers People bash because "iTs bMw" but its been proven it can handle lots of power.
I’m already for seeing the hyperutectic pistons being a weak spot in the future at high mileage. Subaru used the same type of cast pistons in almost all their turbocharged engines. The ringlands would typically blow out after lots of miles and/or when people got them tuned up for big power.
I mean, it's a real Toyota so who knows bro who knows what the real problems will be long term
These have already been tested to 500hp...at that power point the gaskets blow out...they have not had any other failures
The A45S still had a higher specific output per litre and per cylinder. This 3 Cylinder is still mighty impressive though
Mainly because Mercedes are fine having that engine closer to the limit, the block on the 1.6 can handle more power on stock internals though, because it's cylinder walls are thicker.
Yes, they are incredible, only now the 3-cylinder engines have good compensations (on vibrations), which was the eternal problem of these engines
I’m not surprised by this G16E since it’s bigger than Honda K20C1 bore and stroke.
Good job Gazoo Racing Division!
thanks for the video, been looking for a good one about the new corolla
As a car community moving forward we have to get over this "parts sharing" argument especially when it comes to sports cars.
We live in the time of crossovers, companies need to share development cost. If they don't just like we added the Evo and the STI to the list, the rest will follow.
I'm sorry I do not want to live in a world where the entry level sports car is starting at 60k+. So we should definitely encourage co-development.
@Spike16 it's just like in the Porsche community. They complain about every advancement in the newest generation of 911. While ranting about, how great their air-cooled, rust bucket is superior to every car on the planet.
I'm ok with parts shareing, or even co-developing, but I don't like simply re-badging or re-skining
@@gwot I can understand that sentiment, the manufacturers that collaborated on the vehicle. Do their own individual twist, but share a power train and chassis.
Now the Mark six supra should have this engine in series so that it will be 3.2 Twin-turbo Inline six engine with 600 or at least 500 horsepower
My Seadoo's Rotax 4tec makes 275 from a 1.5L 3cyl. And it's 10 tears old.
These little gr1.6 engines are light as well as little . Ideal for light performance restomod build. If I could get one it would save 100kgs .
someone in Japan is builden an AE86 with the engine (and the 4 wheel drive i think but not sure about that)
You guys got the GR Yaris and us American's didn't. It's our turn to get a car that you guys don't get for once.
defiantly worth checking out the YT motive dvd and the development they have done. they are pushing over 500awhp.
The advantage of a Ball Bearing turbo is not response, they don't spool an faster than a journal bearing, the advantage is it keeps the turbine shaft in place against twisting forces so on heavy acceleration, deceleration, or corner load, you don't have to worry about the shaft pushing through the oil layer and tilting, smashing your turbine/compressor wheels into the housing at 100,000rpm
the matter of a 3 Cyl is that it is the optimal number of cylinders for each turbine.
when 4 pot offen u need twin scroll but still isn't the same.
500 hp ish is about the limit of stock engine internals without creating big problems/self detonating. Kinda interesting to see how forged internals and head tuning can do. One thing about 3 cyl is it's inherently unbalanced. Will be tricky to increase rpm on those huge cylinder on inline 3 config without destroying itself.
It’s actually around 600 hp
These cars toyota is making are definitely going to be future project cars
There is one thing that consumers are demanding. Tiny motorcycles, like the Ninja 250cc 4 cylinder which used to be a thing... And tiny cars with turbochargers, and tiny engines. Tiny stuff is just as cool. But you can't make junk. Nobody wants a single cylinder Honda 300cc motorcycle. But if you make a Ninja 250cc motorcycle with a screaming 4 cylinder race inspired engine, then you've got something that is awesome. Thankfully Kawasaki is the most bad ass company, and they are actually bringing the 250cc 4 cylinder Ninja to the USA and UK.
People thought the 2JZ was impressive with double the cylinders on stock spec…
It was impressive, remember that was 30 years ago.
I would buy it because you know it won't break down like a bmw.
How long before two of these are mated to make a 3.2 . With twin turbos..
Just bought one last month! Love it!
It's interesting how seadoo has a 1.5l 300 HP supercharged 3 cylinder for years in their upper jet ski models. It makes you wonder how much stronger Toyotas version is
Marine water cooled engine is quite different
@@liamhargreaves7135 interesteing you saw that because the seadoo engine has a closed loop cooling. That way temperature is regulated by the thermostat like a car
Lord knows Toyota is building just about anything if they really wanted. They’ve built engines that will easily rev above 8k, 100hp/liter N/A engines, ridiculously smooth engines, ridiculously reliable engines, they said they could make a 3JZ that makes 600hp, but they won’t because it isn’t monetarily effective. So far though people have gotten to 450ish whp on stock head bolts before the head lifts and blows the headgasket
No emissions and direct drive.
Toyota should do a fat 1 cylinder.
Imagine a Celica refresh, maybe a standard model with FWD and the GR edition being AWD, it would be so cool
who remembers that the AE86(Apex86)was a corolla as well.
This GR corolla is the first time toyota gave us EVERYTHING we wanted. Turbo awd 300hp manual hatchback that and it looks good. Im still having a hard time believing this is really happening.
I think it would be worth mentioning that the Yaris' 1.6L engine isn't deliberately smaller than 2.0L. The for quite some time now WRC regulations require that cars must have 1.6L to homologate. Of course the production version (GR Yaris) didn't need to follow that, but Toyota still decides to use the same engine they install in the racing vehicles.
Isn’t the engine in the WRC an inline 4?
@@theocousins6386 OH CRAP my bad, it is indeed four cylinders.
@@theocousins6386 no they are allowed to run the 3 cyl. as an exception i think.
nerver mind it's a 4 cylinder haha
@@theocousins6386 The regulation for Rally1 engines is restricted to a 1.6L 4-cyl turbo configuration. (Coupled with a spec hybrid system)
While regulation for Rally2 engine has a bit more freedom on how many cylinders it can use as long as it does not exceed 4-cyl and has a 1.6L of displacement, which resulted in the birth of G16E-GTS.
The same engine from the road car can now be found inside the currently-in-development GR Yaris Rally2 and even before that it is also used for the GR Yaris AP4 (Rally2 equivalent)
toyota has been using 3 cylinder engines in some cars in Brazil for a long time already. They are usually 1.3l or 1.5l natural aspirated, not turbocharged. There have been multiple cars going over 1.000.000 Kms without any works to the engine
still surprised ten years later with my 0.875 2cyl in the alfa mito which can make 105hp, wonder how it compares to this
120bhp per liter 😉
Dont think ive seen anyone mention the BRP X3 motor. Its not even 1L at only 900cc with 3 cylinders and a turbo making 200hp stock. Can easily make 300+ HP with supporting mods and a tune. Some billet block X3's have made upwards of 600+ (EVP Huslter)
While not stock its still impressive
Dynamic force engines are solid.
In Formula 1, there are no regulations for the amount of power a team can use in their cars. There are engine specifications thought, which needs to be complied to. The specifications are four-stroke, turbocharged 1.6 liter, 90 degree V6 turbo engines. The maximum engine power rotational speed is 15,000 revolutions per minute (rpm).
1050HP for 2022.
Can't wait to see the six cylinder version of this engine!
Or even a v12? :)
I'm afraid we'll never ever see a V12 powered car anytime soon 😢
Umm i dont think that will happen. This is the end of gas powerd cars. So ....yeah .🥺
They even stopped putting the V12 in the Toyota Century.
I'm thinking that some enterprising engineer might be inspired to try something like this:
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You would lose most of the advantages of this engine by going to a V6 or V12 config.
The cylinder walls are STURDY!! Excellent platform for more boost!!
Toyota is killing it in right now. They have The GR Line for the enthusiast. Toyota Mirai for the Future. Their new Dynamic Force engine designed with Synthetic Fuel and Alternative power such as hydrogen. The future is exciting for them
This is all happening probably because the company is run by a Man who actually love cars and driving and he have a complete control of the company.
@@gorgthesalty Supra, Corolla, and 86 is. If I remember correctly. I don't care though. I am not living there. But unfortunately the GR Corolla most likely unavailable for us as it is focused to be sold in US
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My Triumph Speed Triple 1.2L 3cyl motorcycle puts out 180hp. That puts Toyota’s engine in the sport motorcycle performance class!😯. Three cylinders makes lots of torque over 4.
And a turbo runs better on a 3 cylinder, that's why everyone goes the 3 cylinder turbo route these days.
I’ve heard there are rumors of a torque converter automatic version of this to come out so if you aren’t a manual fan maybe wait till next year for that auto!
Stick is way more fun to drive though.
@@thejman3489 You right, but some old dude at a drag strip once told me, stick is for a car enthusiast, auto is for a car enthusiast who wants to go fast. I like stick, but auto is absolutely the best option if you're looking for raw, flat out speed.
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I love this channel because this channel appreciates JDM cars
I liked the video, but there is not a single explanation as to how they willl make this reliable,
if anything this engine seems to be made with worst decisions for reliability (cast aliuminium, open deck).
How will they do it? Did they sacrifice the long term reliability?
Fantastic engine! Thanks for compiling this video
Yes, it's a real engine producing lots of power. Close to 200 hp per liter.
btw, a good mention of an engine making over 200 hp per liter stock is the Mercedes 45s (same engine whether it's an A series, GLA series, CLA series, and so on)
@@dy7296 2l with 421HP. am glad i wasn't the only one thinking of that.
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@@alunesh12345 I like turtles
meanwhile,
motorbike engines making 200ish hp without using turbos:ok...
This is really impressive!! So much power from such a small engine
They need to put the 1.6 I3 in the GR86.
Gazoo Racing should honor tradition and see what magic Yamaha engineers can do for the G16E. Then place whatever monster that partnership produces and place it in the 86 and you'll have a trueborn heir to the AE86.
There's rumors Toyota reverse engineered bits and pieces from Yamaha's CP-3 engine. Nothing confirmed though.
@@Josh-cw8by why the espionage, Yamaha would gladly work with them
How fast?
Toyota :YES
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@ 5:12 "improved intake pork" lol i love it
Im ready for the 600hp v6 camry
IMAGINE
Toyota and Lexus are rocking with their newer sport cars... That is so cool
My grandma would definitely have been driving this if she was still alive
I think he probably should have mentioned that another difference between open deck and closed deck designs is that open decks have more cooling for each cylinder because it is completely surrounded by coolant as u can see in the video. But only having that circle of aluminum as the wall of each cylinder isn't as strong as a closed deck design. The closed deck design only has coolant passages scattered through out the block with most of it being solid. Maybe that will help non-car people understand it a little better. Its basically a trade-off between strength and cooling. Just thought I'd throw that out there lol great video tho!
Maybe the head could be cast in the block? It isn't common to have to remove the head on a late model engine anymore - the major reason that occurs is to replace a failed head gasket.
as an american, the hypereutectic pistons make me a little nervous since our oils are more acidic. We've already seen what happens to the subarus but I think the oil jet cooling system and open deck should help with that
If I'm not mistaken aren't most modern vehicles using hypereutectic pistons? Sort of a compromise between cast and forged pistons I thought. I'm beginning to think this is a troll comment lol.
Almost all LS, LT, Coyote and Hemi engines use hypereutectic pistons…
Now imagine if somebody merges two of these engine to make an inline-6 that Toyota will not make!
My new dream car
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Toyota still has the potential to make badass shit. MASSIVE props to the fantastic engineers for making such a punchy little engine. 300hp on a 3cyl... absolute madness. Good madness
It could probably go 800+hp with the right parts. It was keeping up with a 1000+ HP GR supra in FD today.
Dude, it’s half the displacement. Think a bit
@@tecnogadget2 they wanted to run the engine in WRC so it should be good for 500+ and has to stay alive multiple rallye stages. 800 for short time with the right parts might be possible.
@@tecnogadget2 I watched a video about the driver and the RainX GR Corolla and I was wrong. It is pushing 1000 hp using turbo and nitrous.
@@binskee677 Boba golf makes 1200+ bhp from an old 4 cylinder VW engine, I don't see anything special about this Yaris.
@@DjNikGnashers i wouldn't say it's super special, it's just there has never been a 3 cylinder which has been considered as a true sportscar engine, so tuning it might be different and it's i think it's very interesting how far we can take it. I see potential in it but thats just my opinion in the end :) everyone has to decide for themself if they want to consider it as special or not.
Now reverse engineer it into a twin-turbo hybrid v6 with 600hp and torque vectoring, rear-wheel steering, and stuff it into an mr2 supercar. Literally throw all the tech at it. Make a comfy luxury GT trim/version under the Lexus brand as well. Then Profit. What about the LFA? Who ever said you had to only have one halo car? Look at Ferrari and McLaren for ideas.
But when you think about bike engines ( the top tier ) the ninja h2r to be specific it produces 365 HP and it's just a one litre engine but yes it's 4 cylinder supercharged engine
Motorcycles make the most power at high revs unlike engines found in production cars. Car engines being revved to that limit would result in catastrophe lol
The H2R uses a two speed centrifugal supercharger and as it was a non street legal bike. It doesn't need to last as long compared to its street legal counterpart the H2 which makes about 100 HP less than H2R.
It is a racing bikes. The 1.6 L engine in Rally cars makes around 500 hp and then the 1.6 L is what powered the monster in formula one pushing around 1000 hp. Both of this were hybrid though
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You wouldn't want to drive a car on the street with a supersport bike engines design. Try actually riding a 600cc inline 4 around a city and you'll understand. The low rpm power doesn't exist, or rather is dependingon how light the vehicle is. Those inline race bikes don't care about 0-60, they're designed for track. You'd be getting beat off the line by every car (unless you're intentionally dumping your clutch and over-reving every takeoff) and speeding by them at 100 at the next light. Completely impractical power to weight ratio for off-track. fun engines to scream around on though.
@@AmeriMutt76 have you ridden a supersport 600? they do 0-60 in around 3 seconds when pushed (that's a street bike, a race bike probably closer to 2 seconds), and 6 seconds is a gentle pull away. Just saying 👍🍺🇬🇧
Am I the only one who would prefer these 300hp from a good old V6?
I LOVE THIS CAAAAAR
It's time for Toyota to make the 3JZ with "free valve" and other fancy new tech for a redesigned Supra
Yamaha wouldn’t have anything to do with this engine, like they have with other iconic “Toyota” engines, would they?
Just wondering the same thing
no literature or mention of any kind, and Toyota never hides the fact if Yamaha had a hand with anything, in fact they even advertise it sometimes, so that leaves me to believe Yamaha didn't have a direct connection to this engine.
Surprisingly, no. At least not from what I’ve seen in Toyota’s releases adverts, or in a car magazines. (Places like car n driver) and I doubt they’d hide it, I have a 2ZZ-GE and it has Yamaha stamped right into the timing cover, super easy to see
Driven Media: Other 3-cylinder engines are 1L, or less.
Triumph with their 2.5L, 3-cylinder motorcycle: Hold my beer.
306hp PEAK hp, I wanna see the powerband on a dyno, that turbo lag probably makes the boost avalible in 3-6 buisness days.
As a yaris owner i can say that the boost kicks in at around 3k rpm, not too terrible of a turbo lag for how much bar it produces then
Also tbh i like that, the 3k are reched fast and then the kick you get from the back
Typical japanese drive feeling
As another GR driver I can vouch that the Yaris picks up speed from low revs far more quickly than does a Golf R. Mit May be a weight thing, but the 3 pot is relatively far more torquey.
well, peak torque is from 3k to 5.5k, so it'll feel fast, peak HP is at 6.5k but im sure it's close to it a lot earlier.
It spools the turbo nicely from what I hear, I believe there are dyno graphs out there though
I didn't hear you mention the turbo boost rating. Other reviews mentioned it is 22 psi. That much boost in a 3 cylinder is surely stressing it.
Mom, can I twin turbo it ?
Please ?
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If you have a turbo to force the air inside the engine then it's less important to have more valves available to suck the air in without restriction like in an atmospheric engine.
Sounds like a great motor and well thought out but I doubt it will last. Will probably have piston problems due to high rev. Making 300hp off 3 cylinders won't be very healthy for it, but I'm sure it will be a great drift motor.
i sir agree..100hp per cylinder is a great strain on the internal parts, plus, who knows how long the turbo will last. if the turbo does fail, then your stuck with a basic 3 cylinder engine. i know that Toyota knows their shit, but longevity is what they strive for and i can't see this engine lasting 10 years or longer..perhaps..if driven hard, 3-4 years then replacement will be necessary.
It has 3 under piston oil sprays per piston, so 9 should do the job in keeping pistons cool.
It sounds like you want the GR Corolla over there, and I want the GR Yaris over here.
Koenigsegg’s 3-Cylinder Engine makes 600 HP. They use the engine combined with electric motors to get a four-seater car to 1700 HP
All Americans (like myself) who whined and complained about not getting the GR Yaris should be super thankful we got the Corolla. I’d argue the circuit edition is the best looking modern hot hatch of the past decade!
When you realise that 1 cylinder makes 100hp…
Plus turbo
You don't see single cylinder motorcycles with power even close to that. The turbo doss a lot.
Imagine if someone welded 4 of these things and made a 1200hp v12
I believe this engine is actually capable of churning out 450 bhp (335.5 kW) reliably. That's a testament to the engineers at Gazoo Racing.
Please explain ✌️✌️
@@beenmicrophone5817 It appears that the engine block was *WAY* overengineered for durability, probably because of its intended used in a WRC rally car. I've read that the engine is capable of generating 450 bhp quite reliably.
Imagine that corolla with 50/60 extra kw of electric punch along that drivetrain. Phew!
Just one small/medium electric assistence.
and a lot of additional weight ^^
So we're just going to act like Rotax hasn't already been doing this for many years? 300hp out of a 3 cylinder on many BRP recreational vehicles.
Wouldn't a small power plant with such high output be overworked from the get-go and destined to a short life? How long will it last??
The optimum size of a cylinder is about 500cc. The problem with 3 cylinders is engine balance
3 cylinders in general generate a lot more vibration than 4 cylinders especially in 4 stroke form which most car engines use today.
The reason for the massive increase in vibration is that 3 cylinders in cars also lack a power strokes for 25% on average for each crank revolution which causes the crank to decelerate and accelerate resulting in more vibration.
Only advantages of 3 cylinders is that it’s a bit smaller for its displacement improving packaging, and manufacturers can go in a parts bin and create a 3 cylinder as a smaller engine.
Triumph make some awesome 3 cylinder engines with T plane cranks which dish out amazing midrange torque. These aren't parts bin engines with a piston looped of though, they're built from the ground up. Their flat plane version can get 180bhp from a naturally aspirated 1.2 litre.
@@gerardmontgomery280 Yeah but that's a motorcycle. Cars are basically tractors in comparison. A Panigale can get 234hp out of 1 liter. Bikes don't need nearly as much torque to move because they weigh as little as 10% of "performance" cars, so they can make huge power numbers by trading torque for revs, which is what the good lord intended.
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Three cylinder engines have better low end toque than 6 or 4 cylinder engines.
Amazing 3cyl car I’ll never be able to buy. Overwhelming demand
Aside from emissions, why didn't they go for a 2.0 4 cylinder?
to keep the weight down ??
Aside from the reason why they didn't go for a 2.0 4 cylinder, why did they go for a 2.0 4 cylinder?
That really is the million dollar question. They could have made a more powerful 2.0 4 cylinder producing more torque with less boost than the highly strung 3 cylinder.
I'm happy they didn't. 2L I4 is way too common nowadays.
Too much boost, that engine isn't gonna last long. It doesn't matter if it's from toyota or unreliable German brand, the engine got too much stress
My only thought is, if they made a inline 3, why wouldn’t/couldn’t they make a V6 that’s just two of these 1.6s bolted together… I hope we see 3.2LTT in trucks based on this motor.
Come on man you know they're probably already doing that for the next gen Camry or something idk
This motor would be perfect in a Suzuki cappuccino
Hm.. don't know it's bit too big with 1.6 liters since the one in the cappuccino is 660cc
Funny thing is the inline 3 turbo is likely more fuel efficient than most, besides hybrids. Honestly someone can probably find parts to make this thing a fast, fuel sipping beast.
Despite what Toyota's marketing department told everyone back of the relase of the YR Yaris. It's engine even back then was still not the most powerful 3cyl production engine at the time.
That went to the Rotex 1630 ACE; a 1.5L 3cyl supercharged engine making 300hp (220kw) which is widely used in A variety of Seado personal watercraft and jet boats.
Last time i checked my gr it wasn't a fucking watercraft lol
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What does that have anything to do with it or are you confused as what a production engine means?
@@druscanam You are correct but when peoples say "production engine" they mean production engine for cars only. We do not specify each times that we are speaking about cars only, it's just common sens lol
@@druscanam if you hear “production engine” during a press release for a passenger vehicle like this they don’t include stuff like Skidoo’s, it just isn’t fair to
@@BreizhVince
There are many engines that cross over between ground vechiles and marine, both in cars, boats jetskis, motorcycles ect..
If they claimed to have the most powerful production 3 cylinder engine in an on road passenger vechiles then fair enough however they said the most powerful 3cyl production engine period.
Toyota are right is saying the Yaris was fitted with most powerful product 3 cylinder production engine, however unless they specify to be fitted to a passenger vechile its not only misleading it's factually wrong.
Ford too can also boast the same claim that their Fiesta ST has the most powerful 3 cylinder productiin engine, cause it does. The most powerful 3cyl to ever be used in a Fiesta as well as the most powerful 3cy production l to be used in a Ford and they would also be right doing so, however if they left that last bit of information out couldn't you see how it too would be misleading as well as not factually accurate?
Just poiting out a fact and everyone seems to be but hurt.
This is what they should have done with the supra except it would be I6 and double the 3 cylinder by 2 it would be 600 hp
weld 2 of those engines together and put it in a supra and it will be awelsome
Package this into an NA Miata and then we’re cookin
wow, didnt know toyota is building 2 strokes
What?
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@@alunesh12345 blackxworm says the same thing to me.
@@alunesh12345 Copy paste much?
Bot? Or just enthusiastic and bored?
Toyota did a great job lately ! Making super fun cars even tho it's codevelop with other car manufacture (BMW and Subaru) but atleast Toyota didn't completely lost it sportscar making ability... Mad respect 👏👏
Wish we'd get this in europe. The Yaris is great and all, but for a daily the interior just is way too cheap and nasty for my taste. After all you're laying down like 35.000€ for a subcompact car, wish they would've done something to at least make the interior feel like it isn't from a 12.000€ car.
glad they spent the money elsewhere instead of the interior. If we got a nice interior, it would be a 40k car.
@@binskee677 nah that's not true. I'm talking about adding a bit of leather or alcantara here and there, not about making an all new interior. Would probably add a couple hundred bucks at best.
@@cy9nvs ok yea they could do that although i think leather would not really fit the car somehow. I think it's cool that it is so basic inside. And they have actually added alcantara here and there in the doors for example. It doesn't feel much cheaper than my M2competition, the BMW has some carbon inside but thats it. What i don't like the gauge in Yaris.
@@binskee677 dude it feels *much* cheaper.
Just cheap nasty plastics everywhere, terrible infotainment, terribly small screen etc. Not a nice place to be in.
@@cy9nvs but none of it bothers me while enjoying the car. I think if someone cares so much about the interior, it's the wrong car for them in the first place.
Great work !