JIMMY'S TAKE: Jim Donovan believes Cleveland Browns want a new domed stadium, likely in Brook Park
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- Опубліковано 25 бер 2024
- Twenty-four hours after Dee and Jimmy Haslam laid out a plan that had two proposals for a new stadium or a renovated stadium for the Cleveland Browns, it's clear they're saying, "It's time to play hardball."
What do they really want? If the Browns have their choice (and in the end, let's face it, it will be their choice), a new domed stadium is their pick. The Haslams' temperature of their remarks yesterday about the stadium issue seems to be, "Well, we could throw a billion dollars at Browns Stadium. We could give it a facelift." But it really doesn't come near what they really desire.
They want new. They want a multi-function venue - yes, a football palace, but so much more.
They want a facility that can be booked year-round. They want Browns playoff games, they want Taylor Swift to choose Cleveland for a stop on tour, they want the Final Four.
They want it all, and listening to them yesterday, I got the feeling they were saying downtown Cleveland just can't give that to them. It appears, in their view, the city instead should move to focus on developing the lakefront, and then fans should drive out to Brook Park on Sunday afternoons to and watch the Browns play.
The BP Location makes a ton of sense from a business perspective. They just need figure out a way to not impact airport traffic during events. The fact that the Browns are willing to invest $2.5B in the development is putting their money where their mouth is.
Gate receipts and media dollars control football for the worse. I'm 90. I watched the original Cleveland Rams defeat the Washington Redskins 15-14 in zero temperature, in 1945. I didn't need a dome to make it the greatest game I have ever watched. Winning made it warm enough.
The 1999 Stadium was rushed, I think they wanna make it right.
Build it and they will come.
I'd go to a Browns game anywhere. But I'd sure be ok with not having to walk like Ralphie at a December game. Just sayin.
jimmy haslem is the best owner the browns have had since art modell went crazy.
That’s a low bar 😂
... please seek professional counseling ...
@@midnightwriter9658 name a better one. maybe you will learn some browns history along the way, like modell owning the browns from 1961 until the day they left.
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can you even name any of the loser owners we had between modell and haslem?
@@joemckraken7960 ...Hey Joe... got your panties in a wad do you ?? LOL ... why the hostility?? ... but you speak to me about not knowing Brown's history?? LOL ... saw my first game with dad back in 1965 (vs NY Giants) at the old (& great) Municipal Stadium.
You speak of Jimmy "Bribe -man" Haslem as if he is the second coming of Moses or such .... is not Haslem the clown who "followed" the advice of a wino to draft Johnny Manziel over Derek Carr and Teddy Bridgewater? ... the same owner whose leadership drafted Baker Mayfield over Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson? ... the same owner who hired the stellar Freddie Kitchens as HC?? ... the same owner who hung on to Hugh Jackson for 3 dreadful years of 3-36-1 football?? ... the same owner who still hands the keys over to Paul DePodesta with his voodoo "analytics?" ... and let us not forget the hiring of Mike Lombardi as GM back several years ago .... the same owner whose current QB room will be a new take on Beavis & Butthead with DW - JW leading the way ....
oh yes... owners in the recent past were Al Lerner & Randy Lerner who certainly proved their ineptitude ... say what you will about Modell and his gutless stunt with Baltimore, his ownership led to the last league title the Browns won (1964 vs Colts), the rise of my favorite era of Browns lore, being Brian Sipe and the Cardiac Kids, along with three AFC Championship games when Bernie Kosar between (1986-1990) was steering the ship.
Have a peaceful Easter Sunday
@@joemckraken7960 ... ha! .. you are funny!! got your panties in a wad do you ?? ... saw my first Browns game with dad in 1965 (NY Giants) at the old Municipal Stadium .....
You speak of Haslam as if he is the 2nd coming of a Messiah...is he not the same owner who took the advice of a wino to draft Johnny Manziel when Teddy Bridgewater and Derik Carr were on the same draft board ? ... is he not the same owner who drafted Baker Mayfield as the 1st overall pick when Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen were available? ... is not he the same owner who hired the remarkable Freddie Kitchens as HC? ... is he not the same owner who tolerated 3 embarrassing years under HC Hugh Jackson with a 3-36-1 record? .... is he not the same owner who permits Paul DePodesta to reign supreme with his voodoo analytics? ... is he not the same owner who hired Michael Lombardi, Ray Farmer, & Sashi Brown as GM's?? ... is he not the same owner who settled out of court with the Feds for a multi-zillion dollar bribery scandal?
Yes. say what you will about Art Modell, but he was the last owner to win the league title (1964 vs Colts) and had my favorite era of the Browns, being the Cardiac Kids with Brian Sipe, and with Bernie Kosar taking the team to the AFC Championship game 3 times from 1986-1990.... ... oh yes, the previous owners before Haslam were Al Lerner and Randy Lerner ... anything else???
Have a nice Easter Sunday
99% of the time, I am old school. However, on this it is time to think 21st Century. The benefits of an indoor facility to all of Northeastern Ohio far outweigh any benefits from updating the current stadium. Outside of football, the events and opportunities it would bring the area would be tremendous. Build the dome!
Looking at US Bank's event schedule this offseason, they have a Monster Jam in Feb and a few concerts in the spring/summer. That's it, and probably the extent of what could be expected during an average year. Sure you might land a Final 4 once every 20-30 years, and maybe a Superbowl, but that would be 1 and done if it happens at all. It's easy to say if we build it they will come, but there's a bidding process involved for each event and lots of more appealing options especially when it comes to winter events.
I prefer outdoor stadiums. Football is a game that is meant to be played outside and you could also host NHL hockey games considering it’s a cold city.
@@Mrcharles. Completely agree. Browns stadium hosted OSU vs. Michigan hockey last year. It would be nice to see that happen every year. Maybe the Blue Jackets could play there in the future as a stadium series, although they'd likely use the Horseshoe instead.
'They want Browns playoff games.' LOL!!
Hit that Like for Jimmy.
Heck ya, build that dome in Brookpark, Cleveland isn’t safe, I go downtown ONLY if I HAVE too, until Democrats are kicked out, I don’t see it EVER changing.
Up the rent immediately & start collecting on naming rights . It's just business .
If Haslam really wants a dome. Then hes going to have to purchase the land
As of now he has not.
US Bank is beautiful but I really like Lucas oil.
How tf is Cleveland, one of the poorest cities in America, gonna come up with 1 BILLION in stadium renovations...???? That's Absurd!!!
The Browns stadium is not even 30 years old also I think we need to have a football team that definitely can make it to the Super Bowl and when it
They were suppose to build the dome way back in the 80's!!! They fell asleep at the wheel. Yes the DOME is what the Browns need. For heavens sake they have a dome in Arizona, where the weather is always hot and never snows. This would be what has been needed for many, many, years. MULTI facility all year LONG!!!!
I've always hated the stadium they play in. A dome was always the answer.
That was their plan when they bought the team.
I have no problem with a domed stadium for the Browns in Brookpark, but I'm definitely not willing to pay higher taxes to pay for it. If Jim Haslem wants it, then let him pay for it.
Make sure you vote when it hits the ballot.
@@smf15you still believe in voting I see!
No dome, no logo, no cheerleaders in Cleveland. I'll bet they are auditioning cheerleaders now.
I hear they have already contacted Whoopi Goldberg for the position of "Head" cheerleader.
No dome in a city like Cleveland means no quarterback type play that is now needed to win a super bowl.
I agree we NEED A DOME !!! Jimmy and Dee can recoup some of the money they spend on the BROWNS ROSTER !! AND THEY ARE SPENDING MORE THAN ANY OTHER OWNERS !!!
Nooo, not a dome! I am from Pennsylvania but attended a few games in Cleveland in the 90s before they moved to Baltimore. It was cold but I love the atmosphere of the outdoor stadium. I sure wouldn't want a dome in Pittsburgh!! Yes I am an old school sports fan and offer no apologies for it.
I don't think the Steelers have plans to build a dome anytime soon. Same is true for the rest of the AFC North. This will put the Browns at even more of a disadvantage against division rivals come late season road games and playoffs.
I agree. The dome is what's needed
I can handle a new stadium, about the only thing that would make me stop rooting for the Browns is if they put a logo on the helmet or change colors, because then they would cease being the Cleveland Browns. I hope they don't start using cheerleaders, because not having cheerleaders has made the Browns unique since 1946.
Playing outdoors on the lakefront on grass is every bit as much a part of Browns tradition as the things you mention
@StevenC32, So, you're cool if the Haslams move the "Cleveland" BROWNS to Brookpark. Yet, you draw the line as a fan if or when they ever decide to change their brown & orange colors, am I hearing you correctly? That's the deciding factor of the BROWNS identity? Not the fact if they decide to leave the city of "Cleveland" which they're named after? 🤔 WTF-OVER! Although I do agree the team wouldn't be the same if they ever changed team colors to anything other than brown & orange. It's more reprehensible on principle alone for Jimmy & Dee to ever think of moving the BROWNS out of the city of Cleveland to Brookpark. IDGAS if Brookpark is a hop, skip & a jump suburb city on the outside of Cleveland or not. How can they be called the "CLEVELAND BROWNS" if they're not playing football in the city of Cleveland my friend? Not to mention if they do build a new dome stadium in Brookpark it's still gonna be a bigger distraction for the teams & fans at the games whether the dome is open or closed every other minute. All the flights constantly coming in & taking off out of the airport is going to cause controversy & conflict by teams if not start a problem with the NFL. Building a stadium in that Brookpark location is going to be a debacle with all the low flying airplanes coming overhead the stadium at games or any other function they decide to use it for. Just saying... GO-DAWGS! 🤘😜🤘
... sure thing, but without one cent of taxpayer funding....
There is no such thing of homefield advantage because of cold ranny snowy frezzing weather both teams have to play in those bad elements. Home field advantage come from how many home fans you can pack in your stadium . And there noisemakers make it difficult for the other offense to get there play off right. It didnt help us with cold weather when the domed team the saints beat us 2 yrs ago in December friged temp at our stadium they beat us at our own game running the ball. We cant blame DW4 For the loss he ran for 1 td and passed for 1 td. We had 2 tds dropped by our best recviers Coop and the Chief in that icey cold weather. Looks like we forgot how to play in the cold . Run the dame ball . The Saints did. And there always passing in there dome. It didnt help us at home in 1981 division rd playoffs vs the raiders. We missed our field goals they made theres. Thats why the red right 80 was our mistake. We should have kicked the field goal. The raiders were thowing there footballs next to the heaters. Where was the home field advantage there. And what about the AFC championship game vs denver another cold frigged day . The drive. Denver also plays in there home stadium that is cold. Im a fan since 1962. And have been a season ticket holder in old municipal 1979 to 1981. And the new stadium from 08 to 2023. Its time for the dome. What worked in the past dosnt work at the present time. Besides all the good teams in the AFC that make the playoffs play in there stadiums in the cold so if they come to Cleveland they can deal with what we deal with and might do a better job of it. KC BUFFALO CINCINNATI PITTSBURG BALTIMORE NEWENGLAND NYJ DENVER when they become good again. So build a dome pack it and let that crowd noise in a compressed venue be the X factor. Both teams are at equal playing ground no excuse for bad weather. Let the crowd be the deciding factor. Go JH get that dome. Go Browns.......🟧🟫⬜️🟫🟧
A domed stadium would be fantastic. It’s the way of the future for the NFL
Y? Win a few Superbowls so y'all can pay for it.
Its time to get off that lake front its been a bad omen since 1965. Its time domed stadium. Or retractable stadium dog bowl shaped with a heaping retractable dome that looks like brown and orange and white chunks of dog food heaping out of the the bowl. Or a industrial looking venue shaped like a big dog house with a see threw sky roof thats solor powered. Brookpark is a good place . They would still be called the Cleveland Browns......🟧🟫⬜️🟫🟧
Haslam cheated is own customers before he bought the Browns and now he is trying to put the screws to all of us. He is a Greedy and terrible owner. It’s unlikely this grifter will be able to win it all. He doesn’t have the integrity. He is despised by the league. Tom
Downtown Cleveland is one of the worst cities in the world unfortunately always has always will be. It really hurts when you go to Cincinnati and Columbus then go to Cleveland ugh it’s unfortunate
Build the DAMN DOME!!!!