IS LVIV UKRAINIAN, POLISH OR AUSTRIAN? From Galicia-Volhynia to Lwów and Lemberg
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You forgot to mention about volhynia and eastern galicia genocide, which explains what happened with Polish people from Lviv area, you didn't mention of the fact that the Ukrainian OUN collaborated and helped the Nazi German Wehrmacht prepare its invasion of the Soviet Union, and then helped instigate and perpetrate pogroms against Jews that resulted in an estimated 13,000 to 35,000 victims. While the OUN had split in 1940 into a wing headed by Andrei Melnyk (OUN-M) and one headed by Stepan Bandera (OUN-B), both collaborated with the Nazis. Even as leaders of the OUN-B were arrested by the Nazis, who had opposed the OUN-B’s proclamation of an independent Ukrainian state, the membership of the OUN as a whole was integrated into the Nazi occupation machinery and auxiliary police, which played a major role in the Nazi-led genocide of the Jews. Ukrainians were trained by Nazi Germany, and many were deeply involved in the Holocaust. An estimated 12,000 members of the Ukrainian auxiliary police, had played a central role in the Holocaust. In the spring of 1943, the Ukrainian OUN had embarked on a genocidal campaign against the Polish population of Volhynia and Galicia, which claimed between 100,000 and 150,000 lives of Polish women and children in 1943-44, the majority of them in 1943. Entire villages were wiped off the map; their residents burned alive, or tortured to death. The Ukrainian OUN also frequently convince Ukrainians who had married Poles to murder their Polish spouses and children. Polish children and women were brutally tortured, the bodies of the dead were often mutilated horribly after tortures. Hitler ordered also that an SS Division will be recruited and trained in Western Ukraine. The men who initially (and enthusiastically) volunteered for this Nazi German military formation were recruited from the Ukrainian population living primarily in the Galicia region. This Nazi German military formation was initially known as the ‘Ukrainian SS volunteer (Galicia)’, or more officially as the ’14th SS-Volunteer Division (Galicia)’ which are now heroes for Ukrainians and today Ukrainians whitewashes their crimes, atrocities and cowardice.
Author, you have a strange video title. The city of Lvov was founded by the Russian Prince Danila Galitsky. This is a Russian city that Poland captured.
ukraina is Russian territory! there is no ukrainian nationality! full stop!
Lviv used to be called Lwów when the city was part of Poland before WW2. My family lived in Lwów up till the start of WW2.
Btw it has the same name in Russian. And 1945-1991 it was definitely Львов
To spolszczona nazwa funkcjonująca przez wieki, ale odwołująca się do nazwy oryginalnej. Książe ruski Halicko-Włodzimierski założył to miasto a nazwę nadał na część swojego syna Lwa. Zresztą Lew Halicki (Daniłowicz) przeniósł później stolicę księstwa z Chełma do Lwowa. Miasto zagarnęli Polacy dopiero w 1340 roku, na podstawie umowy spadkowej. Tamto miasto wkrótce potem zostało zniszczone przez Litwinów. Król Kazimierz Wielki nowe miasto lokował na prawie magdeburskim, co automatycznie spowodowało, że w tamtym Lwowie dominującym językiem stał się niemiecki, jak we wszystkich polskich miastach.
@@PiotrJaser Polacy nigdy nie "zagarnęli" tego miasta, albowiem nigdy nie było wrogiego przejęcia. Przeciwnie, miejscowa ludność od początku była szczęsliwa, że Polska chroniła ich od litewskiej grabierzy i tatarskich najazdów. Pomijam już fakt, że kronika Nestora z r.1113 z Kijowa jasno stwierdza, że cała Ruś Czerwona, a więc i obszar Lwowa, należała do Polski.
@@Lechoslaw8546 polska historiografia wskazuje wyraźnie, kiedy i przez kogo miasto zostało założone i że dopiero za królowej Jadwigi znalazło się w obrębie Królestwa Polskiego, a wiec w XIV wieku. Miejscowa ludność? Można prosić o źródła, bo to brzmi jak nacjonalistyczna propaganda, gdy mówi się o ludności średniowiecznego miasta. Raczej ta ludność nic nie miała do powiedzenia w temacie przynależności politycznej, bo to było ustalane ponad nią. Fałszowanie przekazów historycznych to rusko-nazistowski trolling, a to trzeba tępić bez litości. Równie dobrze można łżeć jak hitler i putin, powoływać się na kronikę Misia Jogi mówiącą, że Warszawa należała do Cesarstwa Wezenuelskiego. Ludzie fałszujący historię to straszne plugastwo. Kronika Nestora NIE STWIERDZA, wbrew propagandzie nazistowskiej, że ziemie ruskie należałyby się sąsiadom. Raczej można się tam doczytać, że Kraków nie należy się Polsce, bo jego okolice są zamieszkałe przez Słowian wschodnich. Według Nestora plemiona Polski przypałętały się nad Wisłę znad Dunaju i nie mają żadnych historycznych praw do terenów nad Wisłą a nawet Wartą. Człowiek, który łże na publicznym forum, wrzuca jakieś nazistowsko-putinowskie treści KOMPLETNIE oderwane od faktów historycznych, to szumowina.
@@PiotrJaser Ani Polacy nie zagarnęli Lwowa ani dominującą mową nie był niemiecki.
I had several Jewish friends from Lwow, and they only spoke Polish, none of them knew Ukrainian!
let me guess those friends never payed you any money back?
what unoriginal and boring antisemitism@@avarskiscyth6346
You are correct. Please do not pay any attention to avarskiscyth6346 very rude comment.
I'm originally from L'viv, and you are out of your mind. There's no way you could get around speaking only Polish during the USSR occupation, simply out of bureaucratic necessity. Everyone spoke Ukrainian and Russian, and many like me also spoke Polish. It really is one of those cities where being trilingual is pretty much forced on you.
@@gigabrother458 Yes it was forced only after WW2, when the Soviets (Stalin) moved to the former Polish territory.
My parents are from Lwów. In 1945 they moved west as the territory was occupied by the Soviets. My mother used to say that she can not go back to visit the city because her heart would break, she loved Lwów so much.
so the pogroms were tolerable but the soviets were a bridge too far
@@mr.beatnskeet6876 Im not sure what youre implying, but the Lviv pogrom was conducted by the Germans and Ukrainian nationalists...
learn some history@@mr.beatnskeet6876 Lviv was great during USSR
But. Before Soviets... All Poland was a part of Russian empire. Not occupied, but a part of empire. As much as Finland was.
@@mr.beatnskeet6876 What historical ignorance : the pogroms were conducted by theUkrainians
no mention of the UPA's genocide of poles...
Roman Shukhevych was a Ukrainian nationalist and military leader who played a significant role in the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) during World War II. Shukhevych was born in 1907 in a family of Ukrainian nationalists and became involved in nationalist politics at an early age. During the Second World War, he was one of the leaders of the UPA, a guerrilla organization that fought against both the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany.
Shukhevych is remembered for his leadership role in the UPA's brutal campaign of ethnic cleansing against Poles in Eastern Galicia/Poland, a region in present-day western Ukraine. This campaign began in 1943 and continued until the end of the war. The UPA sought to create a homogeneous Ukrainian state by expelling Poles and other non-Ukrainian groups from the region. The UPA's tactics included massacres of Polish civilians, forced deportations, and other forms of violence. Historians estimate that tens of thousands of Poles were killed in Eastern Galicia during this period.
Shukhevych's own involvement in these atrocities is a matter of controversy. Some Ukrainian nationalists regard him as a hero who fought for Ukraine's independence, while others acknowledge his role in the UPA's campaign against Poles but argue that he was not directly responsible for the atrocities.
Regardless of Shukhevych's personal culpability, his legacy is a reminder of the complexities of Ukrainian nationalism and the history of violence between different ethnic groups in Ukraine. The UPA's campaign against Poles remains a deeply divisive issue in Ukraine, and tensions between Ukraine and Poland over this history continue to this day. It is important for individuals and governments to acknowledge and address the historical injustices committed against minorities in Ukraine and to work towards reconciliation and mutual understanding. Please don't undermine or whitewash the truth of the genocide.
Volyn is unanimously considered 'ethnic cleansing' amongst academics, much like Operation Vistula was ethnic cleansing. Only in Poland, is it considered a genocide, because of the rise of extreme nationalism in Poland. Shukhevych took over UPA after the period in which it is alleged the massacres took place in Volyn. Józef Zadzierski was a war criminal responsible for the massacre of thousands of Ukrainian men, women and children. In-fact, massacres by the Home Army against Ukrainian civilians in the Zakerzone begun in 1942, before anything happened in Volyn. Even Grezgorz Motyka admits, the aim of Polish nationalist partisans and communists was to implement the Endecja program of a homogenous “national state” by ethnically cleansing national minorities. This spread to attacks on Slovaks as well in the South.
Poland refuses to admit that all actions against Polish are result of Polish policies, just like persecutions of Germans in 1945 in Poland is result of German policies. Now your persecutions against Germans look more like a genocide, since 2.5 mln Germans were killed by Polish.
Apparently Ukrainians have a problem apologizing for the brutal crimes committed against Poles. Instead, they avoid these topics
@@franktuminski8460 It's the other way around. Many ukrainians have no problems to admit crimes of the past, but I have yet to see a single pole to do so instead of trying to shift all the blame on ukrainian side.
@@ayararesara6253 Apparently you have a hidden agenda to post such lies. Poles did not butcher Ukrainians who are responsible for hideous crimes committed against Poles and Jews. I know many Ukrainians living in Poland and the USA, but none of them ever said they are sorry for Bandera criminals killing with such brutality Polish civilians.
Lwow is admired by so many because of its Polish architecture. It's within ukrainian borders now but it still looks Polish and you can still feel that 'western flavour' in the old city centre
a lot of the architecture in Lviv is from the Habsburg time, like in Krakow too.
@@jonahvx2630 So you're saying that the Habsburgs built Lviv more in 150 years than the Poles in over 400 years? Do an internet search on the most important monuments and buildings in lviv, you will notice that they were almost all built by Poles. According to the Austrian statistical census of 1909, the population of Lviv was 187,056. Austrian data from 1906 indicate that the inhabitants of Lviv spoke three languages mainly socially. Polish - 120 612 German and Yiddish - 20,400
Ukrainian (Ruthenian) - 15,159
The Austrians ruled Lviv but it was the people who lived there who designed and built the city.
@@makavelithedon5475 I know all that, don’t worry, and you seem to misread my post. The cities that were (re)styled in the Habsburg times are the most beautiful cities in Europe: Prague, Vienna, Lviv, Krakow and Budapest. Of course there is a lot of Polish architecture in Lviv too, but the most splendid (Art-Nouveau) architecture was done in the Habsburg time and in the Habsburg styles (think about the Opera for example). And also in that time most inhabitants in Lviv were Polish.
Would be way better Ruthenian architecture if Danylo dynasty did not collapse.
It's Polish city under Ukrainian occupation.
Lwow looks almost the same as Krakow. They are like twins. Galicia, from Krakow to Lwow, has a long Polish-Ukrainian history. The tragedies of 20s and 40s should be a painful lesson to us. Poles and Ukrainians should always be brothers because we share our history. Sad how our diversity was destroyed but we should remember the history and move on to celebrate this beautiful city as a symbol of friendship between us forever.
I agree!!I'm from Galicia Ukraine..and Polish people r my brothers!!
Man I wish.
Poles, Ukrainians, Jews should be brothers!
Galicja was from Bielsko-Biała to Zaleszczyki.
Wasyl Oleksiuk born 1896. From my research grandpa was from Galacia. At 55 he had my mom in Canada. He had a bullet wound in his hand so I assume in 1918-1920 he was a warrior eventually came to Canada to escape. Fuck Putin!
No matter if you think lviv is polish or ukrainian you have to be tripping to think its austrian
Because ALL progress and innovation came up during the Habsburg AUSTRIAN governance, Same as CRACOVIA; LEOPOLIS was lucky NOT to fall under the Prussian or RuZZian YOKE
Najwięcej zwyrodnialców w czasie drugiej wojny światowej było z Austrii różnej maści SS manów gestapowców wiernie pomagali hitlerowcom w mordowaniu
@@fan8281xx hitler also came from Austria
@@fan8281xx take your meds r3t4rd
Agreed. @@fan8281xx
As a German i can say that Lviv belongs to Poland🇵🇱!
And what is still Ukrainian in this area is definitely not the land. Everything was sold, the Jews were also promised a piece of land by the sea.
then Bavaria independent
From Kroliewec to Lwow, Poland great again 💪😂
11:50 "polish eaglets" defending lwów against bolshevics, what an absolute profanation of this painting.
And where is wholyn genocide, dark but it is crucial topic considering Lwów and surrounding areas history.
There is so much lacking, twisted or stright out nonsense information in this video that it makes my eyes bleed.
That was the case. Piłsudski agreed with Petliura that in exchange for Lviv, then inhabited in 60% by Poles, he would help create an independent Ukraine and jointly push the Russians out of Ukraine. The Russians persuaded the Ukrainians that Poland wanted to occupy the whole of Ukraine and Piłsudski and Petliura had to withdraw and the Russians were stopped only near Warsaw. Today we do not send our soldiers and still in Russia they say that in a moment, in a moment we will attack and occupy western Ukraine.
When Russian came to the city, they were arresting professors of Lwow University and deporting them to Siberian Gulags. My family was deported that way, and many of them died over there. I asked my cousins how Russian NKWD new who is who in the city. The answer: they were guided by non-Polish communists of Lwow. Later they became members of the Polish communist government, and they advised British how to shape Polish Eastern border. Churchill and Roosevelt gave Lwow to Stalin ! Churchill called Poland a hiena of Europe.
@@semperfidelis6679 It could be possible only if Ukrainians (Petliura) would stick with the Pilsuski offer. They betrayed themselves. This happened during WW2 when Ukrainians changed again their alliance: first working with Germans then with the Soviets. You can not trust them.
@@semperfidelis6679 Possible
Lwów and Wilno will always be in our Polish hearts!
Yes the Polish had it for many many many years
But don't forget US ruthenians founded it and made it the largest Trading Post in the whole area.
Maybe one day you'll get it back guys or even better yet maybe one day the Ruthenian people will get it back and we will have our independence finally and our sovereign country... well it would be a pretty small country LOL but we love you Polish people so we can live together
@@greg6935 Vilnius wasnt polish even for 20 years.
Peremyshl' (Pshepshemyzzzl in polish) is a native Ukrainian city. And Kholm, it was the capital not only of Galicia-Volhynia, but for the whole Rus'.
Edit : I have nothing against Poles and Poland. I think they are actually good neighbours that could help during the harsh times (still laughing at "disappeared" tanks, thank you so much for this "kind of magic") . Galicia has a long Ukrainian-Polish history, and, on my opinion, it was pretty honestly divided between Poland and Ukraine.
After the partition of Poland, Stalin wanted to achieve greater homogeneity of the population in western Ukraine. Therefore, he resettled ethnic Ukrainians who lived in Poland to the territory controlled by the USSR. The Poles who lived in the Western Ukrainian lands were also forcibly moved to Poland. At that time, many people who had been living in certain territories for centuries were expelled from their homes and moved to other cities and villages. Sometimes entire villages were relocated. Thanks to this, the ethnic composition on the border between Poland and Ukraine became more homogeneous.
By the way. During the Soviet period, Ukraine was heavily russified. But during the period of stay in the Commonwealth, the second common language in Ukraine, after Ukrainian, was Polish. It was often used even in Kyiv.
You forgot to mention about volhynia and eastern galicia genocide, which explains what happened with Polish people from Lviv area, you didn't mention of the fact that the Ukrainian OUN collaborated and helped the Nazi German Wehrmacht prepare its invasion of the Soviet Union, and then helped instigate and perpetrate pogroms against Jews that resulted in an estimated 13,000 to 35,000 victims. While the OUN had split in 1940 into a wing headed by Andrei Melnyk (OUN-M) and one headed by Stepan Bandera (OUN-B), both collaborated with the Nazis. Even as leaders of the OUN-B were arrested by the Nazis, who had opposed the OUN-B’s proclamation of an independent Ukrainian state, the membership of the OUN as a whole was integrated into the Nazi occupation machinery and auxiliary police, which played a major role in the Nazi-led genocide of the Jews. Ukrainians were trained by Nazi Germany, and many were deeply involved in the Holocaust. An estimated 12,000 members of the Ukrainian auxiliary police, had played a central role in the Holocaust. In the spring of 1943, the Ukrainian OUN had embarked on a genocidal campaign against the Polish population of Volhynia and Galicia, which claimed between 100,000 and 150,000 lives of Polish women and children in 1943-44, the majority of them in 1943. Entire villages were wiped off the map; their residents burned alive, or tortured to death. The Ukrainian OUN also frequently forced Ukrainians who had married Poles to murder their Polish spouses and children. Polish children and women were brutally tortured, the bodies of the dead were often mutilated horribly after tortures. Hitler ordered also that an SS Division will be recruited and trained in Western Ukraine. The men who initially (and enthusiastically) volunteered for this Nazi German military formation were recruited from the Ukrainian population living primarily in the Galicia region. This Nazi German military formation was initially known as the ‘Ukrainian SS volunteer (Galicia)’, or more officially as the ’14th SS-Volunteer Division (Galicia)’ which are now heroes for Ukrainians and today Ukrainians whitewashes their crimes, atrocities and cowardice.
I wonder why it was left out? 🤔
Bandera was born into the family of a Greek Catholic priest and had the right to go to college. But he did not graduate, as he became interested in terrorism. In 1930, when he was 20 years old, he witnessed the pacification carried out by the Poles in Eastern Lesser Poland. The Poles killed and maimed over 5,000 Galicians for their sabotage, arson and looting of Polish institutions. Bandera joined a new movement - the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN). Back then, in Europe, OUN members were not shy about calling them terrorists. Before the war, Bandera killed the hated Poles, and during it he tried to deceive the Germans, trying to create his own state with their money. Already then they were begging, a rare coincidence with the Ukrainian Zelensky authorities...
@@monaliza3334 for Poles it is worse tragedy than holocaust .You can't investigate where were erased villages located,or find graves .In stead of this you saw in every Ukrainian town Bandera statue. link below ://ua-cam.com/video/4vLh0PaqfIE/v-deo.html
W bandera
@@GalicianFromLemberg no you can be proud of bandera for other things, but this massacre wasn't definitely a "W"
A very interesting topic to understand the history of events shaping political thought and affairs of today.
Dlaczego nie ma legendy po polsku? Bardzo niebezpiecznie opowiadać historiẹ wybiórczo: biedni Rusini zostali się i zagospodarowali co inni zbudowal, nie? Kto rżnąl Polaków i mniejszosci narodowe, kto zmuszał rodziny mieszane do bestialstwa na Polakach, są do tego dokumenty historyczne planowanej zaglady etnicznej .... nie znalazłeś? Popatrz na film Wolyń, uświadomij sobie o tamtejszą rzeczywistość.
Lviv was a Polish city for almost 500 years, inhabited mostly by Poles, this is evidenced by its architecture, literature and culture, although Soviet times erased it and Poles were deported to the so-called Recovered Territories. The city is important for Poles
It's important for Ukrainians!!!
Lwow had been entirely rebuilt by Polish after two medieval firestorms primarily in the splendid baroque style. Ukrainians added only the bandera and ss galitzien nazi monuments.
I just want to say that I have never met anyone in Lviv who speaks Polish. But I do want to say that many Ukrainians do not like Poland, including Lviv, because of imperial sentiments. My father is half Polish, and he doesn't like Poles. And he's not the only one lol)
@riwwhy and he is likely from a banderite upa family, ask them what they did during ww2. From the 1931 census, the population of Lwów was as follows 65% ethnic Poles, 25% jews, 7.8% russyns including boiko, lemeks, Huculs and ukrainians
@riwwhy it's not about imperialism of the Russian's type. It is about culture and resources dominance of the Poles on the territories. For over a century, even the Russian elites spoke Polish language...
The most beautiful city in Ukraine, IMO.
Because built by Poles, it's Kraków v2 basically
Yes because it is Polish.
Polish city
Because it was financed by Poles
@@niemampomyslunanickno Not financed - BUILT and inhabited.
It's a very beautiful city. 😍
Polish city, Lviv's lions have it written on their shields.
@@SAR-es8doPiękne bo nasze Polskie z naszą piękną architekturą i zabytkami🇵🇱🥰🇵🇱Lwów wróci do Polski prędzej czy później i zajmiemy się odrestaurowaniem tego miasta bo wy prowadzicie je do ruiny niestety jak cały wasz zgniły,brzydki kraj😢
Great info
You mentioned Lendians. Lendians were one of the main Polish tribes. Lviv was founded by the King Daniel of Galicia in 1250. But there was a Polish settlement there before. in 981, the area of Cherven Cities( Lendians land) where Lviv is now located, was invaded by the ruler of Kievan Rus', Vladimir the Great. And so the wars between Poland and Kievan Rus' over these areas began
Bravo. This is why Daniel couldn't establish the city. Everything he could do is to change the name of the existing place to Lviv. Today, that settlement of Lahs on the top of the hill is known as high castle.
You are talking about a Slavic tribe that lived in the Dnieper basin and was a tributary of Kievan Rus. In view of the paucity of sources, the identity, place of residence, political positioning and authentic name of the tribe are the subject of discussions among scientists, as well as (mainly Polish) national-narrative journalism?
The White Croats (who contributed to the development of the Old Ukrainian language and culture) lived on the territory of today's Galicia, and once the western lands were under the Piasts from 970, the same wars began from the time of Meshko I to 1945 (when Poland's attempts to seize these lands by military means ended) BUT it should be noted that these lands were part of Russia-Ukraine since the Rurik campaigns in 960 and belonged to them until 1349 (before the division between Poland and Lithuania), then these lands were settled by Poles (but only in cities, and this in no way stopped the development of Ukrainian culture as well) and until the 20th century, the population of Galicia was 63.09% Ukrainians, 32.7% Poles, and 3.7% others. After the world wars and ethnocide on both sides, the population of the two nations is equal
If you speak Lendyans, then attempts to specify the place of residence of the Lendyans began in scientific circles from the half of the 19th century. M. Barsov's version about their location in Volhynia, in particular the identity with the Luchanians, which was later supported by M. Hrushevskyi, became widespread.
In the 1920s, G. Ilyinskyi put forward a version that the words Lendjany and Lyakh are identical. The basis of Ilyinsky's argumentation was the similarity of the root "lend" with the meanings of Poles in the Hungarian - lengien and Lithuanian - lenkas languages. Deriving the root "land" from the Slavic word "lyada", which meant an uncultivated field, he extrapolated it to the meaning "lyadskyi", which is the adjectival form of the word "lyakhy" mentioned in the "Tale of Timeless Years".
However, the disadvantage of this version was the impossibility of the Lendyan-Lakhs to border with the Pechenegs and live in the Dnieper basin, as Konstantin Bagryanorodnyi writes about it. To avoid these difficulties, Ilyinsky proposes to identify the Lendyans with the Radymychs, not mentioned by Bagryanorodny, who in the "Tale of Time Years" are called a tribe descended from the Lyakhs. Since the Radymychs did not border the Pechenegs, Ilyinsky considers the possibility of placing another part of the Lendyans in the area between the headwaters of the Vistula and the Dniester, where the Pechenegs could reach.
The author is clearly biased. He mentioned the pogrom of 1919 ( 150 lives) but forgets to note a much bloodier pogrom (4,000 lives) staged by Ukrainians in 1941.
Even saying lviv is austrian as a question is a terrible insult
Great video
Great, informative video, thanks for making it!
Damn! That's a beautiful city
It is indeed
Beautiful Polish old city.
An educated person knows perfectly well that this is a Polish city stolen by Stalin.and will one day return to Poland.🎉😊
@@SAR-es8doyou dont have economy and working state to maintain it
@@SAR-es8doNie ma to jak dostać Polskie miasto od Stalina i uważać Polskie miasto,polską architekturę jako swoje😮Przecież to żałosne człowieku obudź się ze swojej wschodniej głupoty😂
Really interresting video, I love these videos about cities and areas where different people groups meet. A video on Istria, or Trieste would be quite interresting.
Thanks for watching :) might look into Istria
ya really interesting and incredibly biased Holocaust apologia
It was very diverse and intermixed region and city for hundreds of years. I hope we will learn from our history and instead of growing division we will build more connections and will make Galicja/Галичина bridge between our nations, from Kraków to Lviv, this was exceptional and important place in history, and I'm hoping it's going to have great future of business and friendship!
Odessa opera - built 1810. Hotel du Nord in Odessa built - 1823.
Lendians were one of the Polish tribes from which Poles originated.
Often wondered about this city and whether it was Polish or Ukrainian very interesting video
Polish
@@danieldaniel5935 Yes but the Austrians left their mark and the locals obeyed Frans Joseph and not Warsaw so it depends where on the timeline you are at.
@@patsmith7320 This city has Polish footprints
The city of Lvov was founded by the Russian Prince Danila Galitsky. This is a Russian city that Poland captured.
@@user-xm6zs6ez6i, Give me a break. You can claim that Lviv was a city at the time when the Russian prince gave its name. It was just a simple primitive fortification and for a very brief time in Russians' hands. Maybe the United States should claim that the Moon belongs to this country because first, American astronauts were the first humans to land there.
I call it BS. Talking about occupation of Lwow by the King of Poland is a lie. He simply inherited that land due to dynastic connections as it was the norm at the time.
Also claims, rather suggestions that it is a naturally Ukrianian land are nothing but empty words.
A fact that it is a part of the Ukrianian state that was born in 1991 doesn't mean it is was somehow destined to be Ukrianian or there is a clear unbroken connection between people in 1349 and 1991.
It is what it is and just leave it at that.
If our people can work together again somehow, and some form of commonwealt were to come back, Lviv should be its cappital, as its city of all mix of influances from this region.
our people???? What fantasy world you live in?
Wonderful piece. I visited Lwow as a kid about 1974. Remember being shocked how western-polish like the streets looked. Mind you my mom and I visited family near there. Some want Lviv to be part of Poland again. I say NO. Not another war. After Ukraine wins this time my hope is our countries will become friends again. Tx
Just a notice to the narrator: “It’s residents” ???. Do you know about Ignacy Lukasiewicz, Polish pharmacist, inventor, engineer, philanthropist, businessman?
Yes. Again, Kresy is Poland.
and Hemar, i tylko we Lwowie, Stefan Babach, Leon Chwistek, Styka, Michal Boym. Moja rodzina była pochodzenia niemieckiego, ale wszyscy czuliśmy sie i czujemy Polakami! Z wyjątkiem paru wybrańców. Taki był Lwow.
@@parch123456 *Banach
What movies are these? I Would love to watch it
Lviv is a purely Polish city, taken by Stalin. After the war it was to be the capital of the country. Warsaw was completely destroyed.
Lemberg is neither polish nor ukrainian but its own culture, architecure, ethnicties, history and traditions and Galicia and Volhynia should be Autonoumus...
@@GalicianFromLemberg Guest before the war there were not even 10% Ukrainians in Lviv. There were already more Jews than Ukrainians. This is a historically Polish city. And no chauvinist Ukrainian bullshit is going to change that.
Well done…a lot of information to unpack here! I would love to find real solid information on Rusyn/Ruthenian people and their land borders.
All of my great grandparents immigrated to the USA from the Austro-Hungarian Empire in the early 20th Century but they were all self identified Slavs (4 were Poles and 2 were western Ukrainians). This video helps me connect my DNA to the history of this region. While my DNA identifies me as 91% from Slavic locations that pinpoint where I know my great grandparents were, it also gives me low confidence Baltic (5%) and Swedish (4%) DNA.
Poles should be allowed their nostalgia for Lwow, but to change boundaries would be extreme folly. Remember Bosnia. Poles should acknowledge that Lwow is now Lviv and Ukrainians that Lviv was once Lwow.
Just Lwów? No, all of Lesser Poland shall be Poland.
This is what belongs to Poles, pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prowincja_małopolska#/media/Plik:ProwincjaMalopolska.png
Lemberg is neither polish nor ukrainian but its own culture, architecure, ethnicties, history and traditions and Galicia and Volhynia should be Autonoumus...
There is no place on this blood soaked continent that hasn't seen atrocities and opression, and no nationality or ethnic group can claim innocence. Possibly the Samis. The inuits? Point is now we can see that when people live in democratic states with freedom of speech, freedom of art and culture, and protection of minorities - then it is of less importance how borders are drawn. Like the Åland islands - Swedish speaking population, belongs to Finland. Not a big deal since you can travel trade and live freely, speak whatever language you want, and the practical difference between being under the administration of Sweden or Finland would be negligable. (Now during ww2, Stalin wanted those islands for Soviet Russia. THAT would have made an enormous difference for the Ålanders.)
Also the idea that any diverse, multi-cultural territory then should be independent as some kind of "then no one should have it!" is not the Solomonic solution it might seem like. Independece is only advantageous for people in a territory that are suffering from economical, political or cultural opression and lack sufficient democratic means and influence in relation to its goverment AND if they would have the means and resources themselves to be viable as independent.
@@medeology4660 estonia maybe? It’s ss division was relatively clean as in not being composed of absolutely horrible human beings, rather conscripts that never committed the atrocities ww2 in Europe is known for, there’s a reason they were the prison guards in Nuremberg and not the prisoners
The city of Lvov was founded by the Russian Prince Danila Galitsky. This is a Russian city that Poland captured.
Nice film it has very things done good, but its necessary to clarify some of them:
6:15 Which opressions?
11:56 There died about 73-150 people. Many Ukrainians also took part in that crimes and polish police was catching the people who committed those crimes in Lwów.
13:16 Polish-Soviet war began already about 16 months before the Kyiv offensive started, when the bolsheviks marched east and took on 5 Jan 1919 Wilno, the city which was controlled by Polish Army at that time. On Feb 1919 Polish and Bolshevik army clashed and Poland started an offensive which liberated on Apr 1919 Wilno and on Aug 1919 Mińsk and many lands. in that and other regions.
The Kyiv offensive was just a continuation of the war between allied Poland and Ukraine against the bolsheviks.
14:56 This map is like a nightmare.
But anyway thank you for your work.
Thanks for watching the whole way thru. Its hard enough to cover so much ground without mistakes.
It's important to note that those Ukrainians fighting against the bolsheviks was a minority. The idea of Ukraine and Ukrainian national identity first appeared in the 20th century in Austria-Hungary. Most Ukrainian leaders fighting for Ukrainian independence were either Russians loyal to the Tsar who were anti-bolsheviks, Ukrainian nationalists, or "Ukrainians" who were born in Austria-Hungary. Ukrainians from South-Eastern Ukraine were Russian and supported the bolsheviks. Lwow only became Ukrainian in 1939 after Stalin annexed it from Poland.
Your analysis is so wrong I don't know where to begin except to say that here is an example of a foreigner telling Ukrainians nonsense about themselves. Ukrainians now have a voice and will accept no more distortions of their history from others!!!!@@Yusheesan
This was very informative! I am helping my fiancé do some research into his family history. The immigrated to the USA from what is now Ukraine in 1905. We noticed on their 1920 census they put they were from Russia originally, then on their own 1930 census they changed it to Poland, and then back to Russia in 1940. We were very perplexed by this! We know they immigrated from Kyiv, but now we’re guessing they originally lived in the region in western Ukraine that was controlled by Poland in the 20s and 30s.
Thanks, plausible theory :)
Your first task is to be very thankful to the wunderful Austro-Hungarian Empire, because they were privileged to migrate into USA, because everybody thought: Austria, okay, must be germans. So that´s why the immigration laws in the USA were in favor. People from Russian Empire could not migrate so easy into USA back then.
Nope, they Lived in Poland in 20s and 30s and not western Ukraine, as Ukraine did not ever exist by that time. It was not Russia either but Poland was under ocupation only.
@@PaniWiola by modern definitions they're Ukrainian
@@allofthatgoodstuff380 Whose definition?
As a Ukrainian, born and raised in L’viv
Thank you for a cool and very informative video. A huge piece of work was done by you in order to relise such a vid. Thanks again, come visit the city and stay positive! Just Lviv it!
@Олег Северов 😂😂😂
@Олег Северов and Königsberg is a German city occupied by the russians.
Well, why don't you guys just give it back to us so more people visit it?
@@yellowforester998 yeah well, why don’t you come here and ask people on the streets that same question? I know why, cause you’re an internet troll
Lvov is Polish city under Ukrainian occupation and we will take it back.
Tremendous video! Fun fact - during the Austro-Hungarian period of rule, certain streets were restricted to certain classes (leaving Jews and Ukrainians barred from using some thoroughfares).
During this period Lviv belonged to the poles?
@@pedrocavalcante5822 1772 to 1918 Lviv was an Austro-Hungarian city (though with a large Polish minority). Before this the city had belonged to the Kingdom of Poland.
and poles too, although before Hapsburg rule, poles were mostly landlords all of that changed after the 1772 partition of Poland
@@GalicianFromLemberg Please explain how Poles came to possess the land in Ukraine. Can you provide the act of expropriation of the Ukrainian nobility? Behind this lies the ugly secret of the Orthodox Church in Ukraine. The popes could pass on their positions to their sons without having them complete any schooling. After centuries of that practice, the result was that most of the village popes never read the Bible because they did not know how to read. Today, it is unimaginable, but back then, illiteracy among the popes in Ukraine was very common and widespread. This illiteracy among the popes was the main reason for the conversion of the well-educated Russian nobility to Catholicism. Those whom you consider Poles and accuse of brutal exploitation of Ukrainian peasants were actually all generations back native Ruthenians.
my family lived in Lviv since 1820, Ukrainians and never heard of this
Of course it is Polish, maybe a little bit Austrian, it is now ukraine just because Moscow incorpored it by the force in 1939, but zelenzky loves to ignore that fact
As an italian, Lwow is polish. Old italian eastern lands (Venezia Giulia + Dalmatia) and Kresy (old polish eastern lands) had the same sad fate
As a person born and raised in Lviv, I can surely say to duck off.
P.S. (Don’t want to be rude but that is a dumb statement
Lwów is Polish, my friend.
@@danylo-antoniidavymuka5514
Lwów is polish. It will always be.
@@munchnerkindl7480 Daniel z Galicji Ukrainian knaz!
@@jamahariya Daniel z Galicji
The author forgot to add that during the rule of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, the Ukrainian population was forced to work for the landlord. For most, it was impossible to move to live in the city. In Lviv, Ukrainians were allowed to live only on certain streets. Therefore, Ukrainians were in the minority in many cities. they all lived in neighboring villages. But in those days, the majority of the population of the regions were peasants. And there were always much more Ukrainians than Poles in Eastern Galicia, even though there were more Poles in the "capital" of the region.
You mean LWOW !
Build by Polish Kingdom, and in Poland for over 1000 years.
Since collapse of USSR in 1988 it’s in a new country called Ukraine. That’s only 37years
This information is incredible & it's totally not ironic that history is repeating itself unfortunately 🙃
Before you deal with the topic, study and obtain information. Lviv has been a Polish city since 1345. After the extinction of the Halicki family, the Polish king Casimir the Great inherited this stronghold and the surrounding lands. The same king will grant Lviv city rights. Lviv was part of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth until 1945. It was neither Ukrainian nor, much less, Austrian. Is Warsaw Russian because of the partitions (occupation)? Lviv is built by Poles.
Yes
We Poles miss this City very much. But what can you do? It's done for
We will get it back.
I've never really understood the history of your area until i accidentally found this 😶 Hopefully there is not another repeat of history & the Russian's consider potential consequences 🙃 In Australia we have benefits of isolation 🤔
@⚡ᴅʀ.ᴘᴇʀᴜɴ⚡ my nie tęsknimy? może pańska rodzina lwów był polski przez ok. 590 lat przecież tam są polskie zabytki itp.
And the Germans miss Breslau, Danzig and Konigsberg as well. And now Putin misses Ukraine - and look at what he has done. That's why international post war order has to be respected.
@@lugano1999 nah danzing was longer polish and its Polish city same with breslau
Reminds me of Lahore. Part of Punjab India, now part of Punjab Paksistan.
Yes around 2 million indians were killed during the Partion of india. The indians got owned by their British Raj Colonial masters HaHa.
Do Polish want Lviv back?
Politically : NO
Patriotically : YES
Follow your heart ! Lviv belong to Poland !
lwow to nasze miasto
22:02 Coimbra, Portugal
I went to lviv just before COVID. Visited from my native UK. Loved it there, and the history is fascinating, so thanks for this. Went with my polish family in law which was very interesting. The sense of Ukrainian nationalism was very strong and permeated the atmosphere of Lviv. You could sense their distaste towards Russian aggression!
Lwów zawsze Polski!
So what about Breslau?
My Jewish Great grandmother was born in Lemberg 1893. Her birth certificate is in German. They left around 1904
Did your great grandmother always have her birth certificate with her, or did you get a copy of it at some later time? I am trying to get a copy of my grandfather's birth certificate - he was born in 1903 in Buczacz (appx 100 miles or 160 km from Lviv/Lemberg), and it looks as if the records don't exist. If you got a copy of her birth certificate at some later time, then any info or advice that you can give me about how to get a copy of a birth certificate from that time from around that area will be greatly appreciated.
@@jamiejempire1694 All the documents were left to me by my mother after she died. I'm pretty sure the family arrived in America with all these documents. Not sure what happened to the archives during the German occupation.
YES!
Lwow----it is for Polish like Kosowo for Serbian ---heart of the Country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Because Lviv and the rest of Poland were occupied only for 120 years by Austria, so definitely can not be claimed by Austrians or Ukrainians
The rest of Poland? I hope DARING IGNORANCE won't occupy your mind even for another hour
@@fan8281xx Yes, Poland was occupied/ parted by 3 countries : Germany. Austria and Russia for 120 years until 1917
Stolen from Poland by Stalin.
This is the Ukrainian city of Lviv, Ukraine is Kyivan Rus
@@user-yg3cd4dk8m ruś kijowska to rosja a ukraina to sztuczny twór stworzony przez bandytów
@@user-yg3cd4dk8mRosja to Ruś kijowska. Księciem Rusi był poddany Polski Jarema Wiśniowiecki. Ukrainy nigdy nie było. Odebrano państwom po kawałku ich ziem i komuniści stworzyli państwo Ukraina. A wiesz że Kijów był Polski?
@@user-yg3cd4dk8m Змініть свої підручники з історії, ви, напевно, вчилися з червоних книг
You know, as a complete outsider that has visited Lviv a few times now (even during the current war), the Poles in these comments sound rather childish and bitter. You sound like me as an Englishman saying that Dublin or Cork is British, of which there isn’t really anyone I’ve met in my 32 years that holds this opinion. History happens. Empires rise and fall. In Lviv, you can still see old painted signs on walls in Polish and even in German sometimes. Overall, the city is European in spirit. So lets look past the history and see it as it is now. Ukrainians and Poles are brothers and that has been so evident since this war began. I admire both of your countries and may both succeed.
Also I invite people to watch this video concerning the more recent Polish minority in Lviv region: ua-cam.com/video/FzscC6HpVcA/v-deo.htmlsi=tzbQKTa9hLkArI4r
Ukraine respects the Polish minority in the west
Lviv gets more beautiful every time i visit.
Conveniently omitted subjects of Banderites, UPA atrocities, SS Galicia, Volhynia massacre...hmm
The city of Lvov was founded by the Russian Prince Danila Galitsky. This is a Russian city that Poland captured.
@@user-xm6zs6ez6i And?
ruZZian??!!!! The term is Rus Rusyn the old name for Ukrainian..Nothing to do with ruZZian. They were called muscovites originally Don't repeat putin's version of history. putin in a lying ex-KGB agent turned murderer@@user-xm6zs6ez6i
@@user-xm6zs6ez6iRussian?
You mentioned the Polish discrimination of Ukrainians, but you don't say a word about the ethnic cleansing of Poles and Jews imposed by Ukrainian Nationalists in 1943? Also the city of Lviv was legally inherited (not occupied) by the Polish King Casimir the Great. I think you read too much Soviet era history books. Nice channel tough.
Bandera slava ukraini 🙄 azov isn't nazi zelensky is jew 🙄
Is the shot at the end taken in Coimbra, Portugal?
correct, thanks for watching till the end
Good one! Best of success in growing to 10k - 50k - 100k - 1 mil!
Poland:Lviv is mine!
Ukraine:No!!!Is mine
Austria:Guten tag,Lemburg is Osterreich
Poland and Ukraine:😐😐😐😐😐😐
Weren’t Ukrainian nationalists friendlier with the Austrians than with the Poles?
@@informedtraveler3014 Well i think it’s obvious when you were puppet of Austrians who fought with Poland.
@@semperfidelis6679 no they did not ?
In that case Poland is also German AND Russian founded /:
@@semperfidelis6679 Also if i understand you correctly : It did beacuse in Russian empire word Ukrainian was forbidden and illegal .
They were refered as little Russians .
@@semperfidelis6679 Ukraine didn't start from Kiev. Kiev was historically a Rus city, then Polish, then Russia bought it from Poland and it was Russian, then Soviet, then Ukrainian. Cossacks were not "Ukrainian". They were a military society in the service of the Russian Tsar.
Is this provocative video title on purpose? Lviv is Ukrainian. You have doubts about internationally recognized borders of the countries?
It's all of the above.
This
It used to be all three, also, there are beautiful armenian and jewish influences on the region that remain to this day.
I must add to the decline of the Kievan Rus that it was equally much a result of political infighting as for a long as the Kievan Rus had a quite hectic tradition of a bloody succession where they in part rose so powerful thanks to so many powerful kings and a queen, while eventually a weaker king rose to power which combined with bad luck like decline in trade led to the different principalities becoming ever more independent and bickering amongst each other.
I think it would have been better to say that Poland and Hungary were the nations that re-emerged from the Austro-Hungarian collapse as Czhechoslovakia itself had not existed before as one country.
The Interwar map was a little incorrect as the German east prussia consisted of more than just the modern day Russian oblast of Kaliningrad
Thanks as always for adding detail to the content.
Polska nie pojawiła się z upadku AUSTRO WEGIER a z upadku 3 zaborców PRUS czyli Niemiec Rosji i Austro Węgier tak w skrócie .
Please have in mind that Kievan Rus was new name, before it was Novogrod Rus as Kiev was later attached to its teritory.
And lets remember that it was viking country which conquered rus lands and it has nothing to do with Ukraine which is very young country.
@@jankowalski523 There was actually never "Kievan" Rus. It was just Rus, or Land of Rus, or Russkaya Zemlya. The term "Kievan Rus" was made up by Russian historians in the 19th century to mark a historical period when Kiev was the center of Rus. Before Kiev it was Old Ladoga, then Novgorod, then Kiev, then Vladimir, then Moscow.
@@Yusheesan there was Novogrod Rus later changed to Kievan Rus. What was bofore Novogrod I have no idea.
What your source for this?
I love Ukrainian Catholics, especially Halychany ✝️. Hail from your southern brother 🇭🇷🇺🇦💪
NAZ1 L0VE...nice nice! You Croats should show to the world more often your true face!!!!!!!
@@Veselinius_III
Read something, let go of the comedy-propaganda............
Greek Catholics
The Gedroyc doctrine would have been a good mention vis a vis Polish Ukrainian relations after WWII.
The official portal of the City of Lviv, run by ultranationalist bandera movement, declared that the city is not Polish or Ukrainian but German. You can find it on the city of Lviv portal under : Захоплення міста Польщею, Львів німецький.
Lwów Polski!
The city with Ukrainian spirit and heart
Personally as a Pole I'm not calling for a change of borders. Yet Ukrainians should acknowlage that Lwów was Polish. Right now the role of Poles is marginalized. They should also recognize Stepan Bandera and other UPA soldiers as war criminals, and yet there are thousands of monuments of them. And as a song once said... "Lecz skoro się nie da odzyskać własności, niech choć napis głosi: Lwów na zawsze Polski!"
Why does Ukraine have statues dedicated to the people who initiated the BRUTAL Galicia Volhynia genocide of Poles, Jews and other ethnic groups in 1943 aka dymtro klyachivsky and Roman shukhevych among various other SS soldiers and Nazi collaborators including Stepan Bandera who's men carried out the volyn attacks?
I really want more people to look up the Gallica Volhynia genocide of 1943, it is a very important tragic historical event that needs more exposure.
Ukrainian orthodox priests would bless the tools used to rip people open, spill out peoples guts (including pregnant Women) gouge peoples eyes out and tear/rip of limbs while keeping them alive to bleed to death. That and burning children alive and crucifying people as well, like polish priests too.
These attacks were carried out by Stepan Bandera's men (Bandera is Ukraine's national hero who pretty much introduced Nazism to Ukraine) and was initiated by Roman shukhevych and dymtro klyachivsky who are both seem as heros of Ukraine with rallies and statues honouring their name.
This is runner up for the MOST brutal genocide that we know of, it does not have the number factor compared to the Jewish holocaust, but the brutality factor like no other genocide you have ever knew.
"The Bolsheviks' advances are forcing us to step up the liquidation of Poles to their full extinction. Villages with solely Polish populations are to be burned down. In villages of mixed nationalities only Poles are to be wiped out. Jews and Gypsies are to face the same treatment: full annihilation without remorse."
Hero of Ukraine Roman Shukhevych, UIA division handbook.
@@sh0erick_squishy Hell if I know mate. They consider them heroes because they fought for their independence. Honestly they just skip over the fact of the Volhynia massacre, which angers me very much.
don't call it a massacre, it was a genocide perhaps the most brutal example of one in human history.@@Jacobtheguy
King Daniel couldn't establish Lviv since for 500 years a defensive settlement already existed in that place. Today it is known as High castle. Everything Daniel could do is to change the name of it to Lviv. .
🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦Oh, holy mother-theotokos🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦, do you read what you write? There was indeed a settlement before King Danylo, BUT SASE CITY was built by him himself in 1250 after the previous capital of the Kingdom of Rus-Ukraine (Halych) was destroyed by the Mongols, and he named it in honor of his son Lev Danylovych, and called it Leopolis in Latin, long before the Lyakhs or an Austrian from "Lemberg" or "Lwow"
Lwów semper fidelis.
As a Pole I want to say that Ukrainians have complexs on the point of Lviv City .They claimed that Lviv was build by Austrian,however you couldn't find many Austrian there.The city was build mainly by Poles.After participation of Poland .Polish people discovered that it was the best opportunity for survival of polish language ,culture and science.It was kind of freedom fondness and El Dorado far from German or Russian oppression.
in 1772 after the Partition of poland Lemberg was annexed by the Hasburg monarchy.. and they overhauled the Architectureand renovated the decomposing polish buildings, most famous Lemmberg monuments were built under the Austrians, in 1509 when the Moldavian prince Bogdan III the One-Eyed invaded Polish-controlled Galicia, the local Ukrainian nobles joined this invasion en masse, during the 18th and 19th century the Hapsburgs reinforced the Artistocracy, turning the city more european and elaborate.. also catholizing the city and expanding its realm in baroque art and music.. any remenant of former polish present is now rotten and underground... and if anything Lemberg is neither polish nor Ukrainian but its own culture, architecure, ethnicties, history and traditions and Galicia and Volhynia should be Autonoumus...
Throughout the Habsburg occupation of Lwów, it was still 80% polish populated. So unlikely austrians built anything there. Peimarily polish and jewish polish effort to built their city. But feel good to enjoy it! We got the polish-german cities!
@@adamz7038 are u for real right know? first of all just because a city has a different ethnicity does not mean its independent all the famous buildings in lemberg were built by the austrians and all infrastructure was hapsburgs, education- hapsburgs, and the polish population was more like 65-70% not 80 lmao
@@GalicianFromLemberg lmao, ah polish population only 70% and not 80% it must be Martians who build lviv
anyway it was impressive how small country like Austria controlled a 10 times bigger area.The largest European territorial Empire after Russia .It was unlikely to be many Austrians there.If they were also they had marriages with Poles .I guess there were more Hungarians than Austrians .It was too hard to control it and we remember after that was created Austrian-Hungarian coalition.
Wow, I had no idea that Lviv had such a vibrant and multifaceted history! With such a strong mix of (mainly that is) Jewish, German/Austria-Hungarian, Polich aaaaand Russian(?) cultural and intellectual traditions (historically speaking, at least - and sorry if I left any nationality out). What a gem it must have been back in the day, before all the pogroms and similar atrocities...although the city itself, at least, probably still is!
Sad to see history repeating itself though - yet another time (although the word sad is an understatement to say the least). I would have gladly gone there to visit, if it wasn't for the insane vanities of a certain power-hungry Russian oligarch and tyrant.... 😞
That beautiful city was built by Poles and is located in the former Polish Kingdom. This city should be return to Poland
@@franktuminski8460 Aha, OK - and from which year should we "start" this "return of areas to its' Motherland", if I might ask?
Most areas have, at one time or another 'belonged' to another nation or country...
So, which is it? Is your 'best' suggestion that we start from scratch - and make wars with eachother for new "states"? Oooor:
Pick a random year, or date - and 'return' those to the land it concerns...if it still is existence that is!
So, just for a little starter - you think it's alright for Sweden to 'get back' Finland, S:t Petersburg with surrounding area, bits and pieces of Norway, Estonia, Latvia, northern Poland and Germany?
Sounds superconvenient! NOT!!!
@@MrZenGuitarist I wouldn't say I like your sarcasm. Apparently, you have a significant deficiency in European history. Lviv and the surrounding territories were part of Poland for many centuries. In big contrast, after WW2 Russsians partied in this part of Poland again for a few decades. The new country Ukraine was created only after Soviet Union collapsed to pleased the West.
@@franktuminski8460Well, I wouldn't imagine that you'ld like my sarcasm - not least since it's so justified and thereby pretty much impossible to counter. Just because I do NOT have a deficiency in European history!
A return of Lviv and surrounding areas might be applicable in the way you say.....but then, if we're to apply the very same logic (albeit 'counting from different years'), Poland should not exist as a sovereign country at all! But rather be a part of Russia/the Soviet Empire. If we're to apply the very same logic at least.
Even though you might not like my sarcasm - do you not see that it's quite justified? At least if we want to live in peace with eachother, as a 'unified' and peaceful Europe.
Apparently, you do not know well history or try to alternate it. Number one: Poles were the biggest population (the majority) in Lviv until the end of WW2 when Churchill and Roosevelt betrayed Poland.Number two: The pogroms were not conducted in big cities like Lviv because Kozaks (linked to Ukrainians)were living outskirts of cities.
The city was founded by the Ruthenian King, and this is where all discussions should end.
Any arguments that Lviv was polonized, etc. - a question of bygone days
Semper Fidelis - Zawsze Wierny
Tobie Polsko!
Zakazane historie - Y T
😂The University in Lviv was founded by a Polish king and it was not a Ukrainian university, as the author of the film lies. The university was named after the Polish king Jan Casimir. There was no Ukraine as a state... The language of instruction was Polish...
In my opinion it was Polish for the longest time but now its Ukrainian, no matter if you are angry national pole in the comments or angry Ukrainian national its just a matter of when.
Polish people don't want Lviv, it is not our land, if you are angry and see anger in other people it's your problem, I want light a candle on my grandmother grave, but at this moment she doesn't have a grave, she was savage murdered by ukrainian nationalists from OUN, who committed volhynia genocide, your Government never allowed for exhumation of my grandmother, and I am angry only because of this, would you be angry about that?
Its Polish city 😊
@@danieldaniel5935 Acording to you’r logic Breslau , Danzig and Poznan is German .
@@Catscounteratack no ;)
@@danieldaniel5935Yes
Daniel's resistance to the mongols is when ukraine developed its current character
That is correct, you learn from Mongols the merciless pillaging of anything and everything in any situation, and the inhumanly sadistic killing. You can officially call it a Ukrainian national tradition.
Guys, don't forget that until the 20th century, 10% of the population lived in cities, and 90% of the population lived in the surrounding villages. The surrounding villages are Ukrainian, so it does not matter who lived in Lviv - this is the land of Ukrainians.
It is an interesting fact that the Principality of Galicia-Volyn was never actually called that. The historical name is "Kingdom of Rus" or Rusinia (which speaks of imitation from Kievan Rus). At that time, no one on the territory of modern Russia called himself a descendant of Rus. But Russian historians hid this fact in order to support the idea that they are older brothers and that they are the true descendants of Kievan Rus.
Of course lwow was Polish.
WAS. Krakow WAS Austrian. Warsaw WAS Muscovian. Gdansk WAS German. Przemysl WAS Ukrainian. Wroclaw WAS Czech. Białystok WAS Lithuanian
It is Polish , I think Poland 🇵🇱 will take it back when the Ukrainian Nazi's get defeated by the Russian.
lol Uk NAZTYs are living on Polish Welfare in Krakow. But, if Kresy is returned, then Polish people can be rid of the Uk Gypsies and Thieves.
Wow.
Lwów is a true Polish city, on Łyczakowski cementery two stone lions hold shields with epigraph: "Zawsze Wierny" "Tobie Polsko" = Always faithful to you, Poland.
Wrocław is true German city
Lviv was founded by Ukrainian kniaz Danylo Galytskyi and was named in name of his son Lev. Today Lviv is recognized as part of Ukraine by Austria and Poland. So what a story people?
It's Bandera Azov battalion headquarters. Sad.
It's fun seeing your type calling every single thing of Ukraine nazist but don't even care about actual nazi protests in Germany lol
Definetely Austria shouldn’t have any claims.
the provided the city with, more dicipline and organization, architecture, arts, literature, music, religion, why shouldn't they have claims??? all poland did was put landlords there and all ukraine does is be proud of something that's not theirs and turn an entire culture into a tourist attraction
Well, well, well... how turns table
@0:59 Sorry, all of that first didn't happen in Ukraine, it happened in Poland. The concept of Ukraine as a state didn't exist yet when the book was printed. In 1918 a total of 92 % of Ukrainians were peasants, 68% of them illiterate, the rest finished schooling at the level of very basic reading and writing. It may come as a shock, but most of the Ukrainian village priests never read the Bible, they were illiterate. They inherited the position of a priest after the passing of their father; no schooling was required. The university was founded 1661, when King of Poland John II Casimir granted a JESUIT Collegium, founded in 1608, the title of a university. Ivan Franko wasn't born until 1856. This is just a few grains form the top of the iceberg.
It should be returned back to Poland, just like Crimea should be returned back to Russia.
You pronounce Volhynia wrongly, H there shouldn't be heard. Volynia, or Volyn.
How can it be Austrien, since it existed during the siege of Viena,