Lemony Snickets VS A Series of Unfortunate Events
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2024
- Netflix has recently released its own exclusive show, A Series of Unfortunate Events with Neil Patrick Harris playing the vile Count Olaf. But how does it stack up to the movie which attempted to tell the very same story? Watch this in-depth comparison to find out.
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I love how snicket explains certain words, it's a direct nod to the books and how the author tells the story. You see, when lemony snicket explains a word, the way he explains a word can blend in with the story as an event is happening. Personally, I think the tv series is killing it adaptation wise.
Hannah Davy I Think he needs to read the books, it would improve his score for the show a whole lot more
He's an under-rated author. I love his style.
Hannah Davy THANK YOU I TOTALLY agree
Hannah Davy I also really liked it because it reflects the condescending tone towards the kids throughout the entire series, despite them clearly being more intelligent and capable
Dooggy Dog101 agreed. Also helps when my vocabulary is bad
Point about Poe:
The books are meant for 12 - 14 year olds, ages where they are constantly frustrated that adults do not listen to them. He's a symbol for that frustration that his target audience feels
BigJonB36 huh fitting the 13 motif of the series even more. 13 books 13 chapters in each the tv series was released on friday the 13th 13 years after the movie was released
BigJonB36 Hahahhaha funny thing when I was 9-10 I read all the books I was a very hard reader
13 is considered an unlucky number. This really is an unlucky series. :o
What a Very Funny Dilemma? Eh?
Poe in the show just killed the show for me. I prefer the movie BUT I saw the movie when I was like 12 and haven't seen it since. So maybe I would think it is unbearable as well
The reason he doesn't kill Poe is because he's the only one who controls the Baudelaire Fortune. If he dies, Violet will keep her fortune for certain.
I know
What about Tamerlane dude?
Ezri Steel Count Olaf also likely finds him helpful to his schemes on account of him being the most incompetent, densest banker alive.
yup. count olaf was lucky to have someone as incompentent as poe in charge of the baudelaire fortune. killing him could mean putting the fortune in the hands of somebody else who could be more competent.
@@dacosta2005 true...
You mentioned that snicket never wore outfits relevant to his location after his swimming costume on briny beach, but he does multiple times
E.g. he wears a sailors outfit on a boat in the wide window, he wears a hikers outfit in the miserable mill and when he wears a school uniform at the end (and often more times I’ve missed along with all the times he does it in the later seasons
The reason he didint mention it bc the 2 3 sesones weren’t out yet
@@dannymclennan1947 The sailors outfit, hikers outfit and school uniform are all in season 1
@@finchcarr8395 my bad I can’t remember the sailer one but I remember the school one
He shows Snicket in a different outfit IN the video lmao
Honestly I feel like you didn't understand the show, I get that it wasn't your sort of thing, like here's an example, you complained that most the adults were incompetent which is the entire point. The series follows the books more closely and the books are a satire of children's lit, so they're criticizing how adults in children's lit tend to be pretty incompetent by giving the adults in the series that same flaw but to an absurd extent. It's why all of the adults that are actually competent have to end up getting killed. Also I think you missed a lot of the humor in the series, maybe it's not your style of humor but there's the edge of dark and absurdist humor constant in the series.
I completely agree and you are right. The series is supposed to be about how three orphans go through many guardians however, Count Olaf really wants the Baudelaire fortune. The author made the parents not know Count Olaf was in the disguise thats part of all the unfortunate events that happen in the show. It is literally one of the key points that the Baudelaires live in misery.
Yes! If the adults were seeing through his costumes, where were the unfortunate events???
"Who am I? What am I doing? Oh, don't you miss the vivid imagination of childhood?"
"I didn't have one."
"An imagination or a childhood?"
ItzUA-cam Gacha
Nah
Can people except that’s how the story goes there is literally a song used twice called that
If you didn't like the series, you should have looked away.
Ripstikking0503 _ Lol.
not that funny tbh
Lol
EEEEEEEYYYYYYYHHHHH!!!!!!
Look away, look away, look a-way!
Count Olaf actually is their relative though, in EVERY version. The show was justifying the misunderstanding about the meaning of the word "closest", when the Baudelaire parents' will says they should go to the "closest living relative". The will clearly meant emotionally close, but the bank took it to mean geographically close.
Sophie Critchley Oh right. Thanks for clearing that up. The show and movie gave off the impression that he was NOT their relative and that he talked his way into it.
No, he was just a very distant relative several times removed. As were their other relatives like Uncle Monty and Aunt Josephine. In the TV show he talked his way into Mr Poe giving them to him first (in the film they didn't feel the need to justify Mr Poe's absurd decision making skills).
+Sophie Critchley Thanks for the info. I really appreciate it.
He doesn’t ruin the moment. That’s exactly how Lemony is in the books, he is put into those parts because it is following how it is told. I get you didn’t read the books, but it keeps the continuity.
It most likely worked for the books but that's a written story. A movie is supposed to SHOW not TELL. I would be ok with it if he wasn't in it much but he shows WAY too often in the show which is supposed to be a visual medium. So in my opinion it really doesn't work in the show.
Because you didn’t read the books. They are told in this element. So obviously you don’t get why it’s done that way. Do you know how to truly analyze literature?
Sam Petraglia he just explained that what works great in the books doesn't always work as good in the film adaptations
@@skolnutz He isn't analyzing literature though, he is analyzing film.
Eric Carter The show DOES show. Lemony’s appearances, spoiling any shocking revelations, creates a uniquely consistent oppressive atmosphere, and at the same time, creates distance for the audience, which hammers in your impotence to affect their story. If it’s not your cup of tea, that’s fine, but it wasn’t bad writing.
Also, Patrick Warburton changes his outfit a few times; it’s not for comedy, but because he’s supposed to be blending in. A suit is a typical working class outfit, and carries an authority that people are less likely to question, which is why he often wears one.
I love how all of the reviewers are like “ITS INFURIATING” like... it’s supposed to be. You’re supposed to be annoyed by them man... come on...
The tv show was perfect. The script, acting, story, comedy, cinematography, literally... miles better than the movie.
THANK YOU
Oh yes!
Agreed
acting . . . even the children ¿
FINALLY SOMEBODY AGREES THANK YOU
I have to disagree about Snicketts placement within the show. I, personally, think its a good way to break up tension and remind viewers that this is a retelling of the story of the children seen through the eyes of Snicket himself, something people often forget in favor of the children because they are the main characters. His interruptions in the show and short monologs also remind viewers of the deeper and more subtle plot, which is why the entire show is even taking place to begin with. Without his little interruptions we would never know about things like Beatrice or realize that we actually know what VFD stands for from the very first episode.
I agree with you.
Boi
Omgeeeeeee YAAAAAAAAASSSSSS QUEEN
So we need to be stopped from watching the tense moment for this really useless 5 second scene for him to explain to us what stand offish is supposed to mean. Yah yah alright
The real problem is that this guy is just comparing 1season of the show with the whole movie
"They never do this again, he stays in his suit from this point on." No.......... he doesn't...?? They do a thousand costume gags for him
Yea like actually watch the show
Did he watch the entire show?
He dressed in a dressing coat in one scene in the other he's wearing a farmer suit
Jmaz Zee No, he didn't, I'm pretty sure most of the episodes where Lemony is in costume weren't out when he made this video
And yet there's literally a clip of Lemony Snicket in a farmer costume IN THE VIDEO
Well, Count Olaf is known to have an IQ in the upper double digits...
SJP4410 *Negative
Nice
Sam Phillips -72
He doesn’t even know how to spell poison
@@potteranimations5569 nor innocent XD
Well, you should read the books.
Ya
Yeah
If I took a shot for how many times I yell out “Goddammit, Mr. Poe!” Whenever I watch an episode of aSoUE, I’d be dead before the halfway mark
Mr. Poe is much like he is in the show as the books. Whenever he drops the children off at their new home, he never has time to stay, always has to get back to the bank and he says as much
But his facial expressions and gestures are significantly more exaggerated in the show, and you don't see these in the books. In fact I think the movie version did a much better job at portraying the personality of Mr. Poe than the Netflix version.
Sharon Follmer The Mr. Poe in the books and movie are not bright, but they're still likeable and show concern for the children's welfare. The Mr. Poe from the show very obviously only cares about getting a promotion.
Did you *SERIOUSLY* just say that the movie had a brighter, more colorful tone than the show?????
😭😭😭Ikr uncle Monty had so much color
Ikr throughout the movie the characters wear sad colors and in the TV series they wear bright colors. I don't know how he thought that, but fine it is All about perspective. Personally I looked the movie better even if it did not follow the plot of the books because acting was far superior in the movie than in the show.
Your profile picture suits your comment.
He probably meant it not in a literal way
@@lilymiller9579 I did watch season three and mabye their acting improved a tiny bit but I still found them hard to believe. It is all up to perspective and we all can have different opinions on what we see.
Most of his complaints were about things that were definitely in the books and expected
Ashlin Gunderson What works in the books doesn't necessarily mean it's going to work on a film.
@@EricCarter12 Yes, but you are saying that you don't like things, like the narrator interjections, which are key to how the books are written, to their rhythm, and to the entire brand of the book series. Furthermore, they are full of easter eggs and forshadowing, making them one of the most clever and fun parts of the series.
i knoww
A lot of what you said about the show can be responded to with "That's the point"
Scarce Hyperion well he did say he knew almost nothing about the books, so I guess he wasn't lying there.
It’s played out like a kids show to juxtapose how dark it is
omg fr, i was like “that’s how it is in the books”
My biggest gripe with this review is him complaining about the cartoonish nature of the world. It's supposed to be exaggerated and over the top. It's not like the show was realistic for several episodes before adding the looney tunes logic, it made it clear that's just part of the setting.
You were being to hard on aunt Josephine and mr. Poe in the show all the things you didn’t like about them are things that happened in the books.
He was so mean when talking about the aunt it was kinda unfair
I agree
Just because it was in the book does not make it good.
@@andreysantiago6255 okay?? But its accurate that's the point
The reason Lemony Snicket is constantly in the scenes is because they wanted the series to be more like the books in that regard. In the books, he is CONSTANTLY narrating and going on just like we see in the show, only more so. Telling stories, doing his little vocabulary lessons etc. Also, he is revealing important details that can only be revealed to the viewer by him. They left out his love for the kids mother, Beatrice in the film, but now, more attention can be given to that and other things of importance that he talks about in the books. There's just a lot to it and a very good reason behind him constantly being there. I hope that makes sense. But I get it. I does become slightly annoying after a while. Also, I believe he changes outfits to fit the scene a few times that you may not have noticed. In the last episode, he is wearing the Prufrock Preparatory School uniform and I believe he wears a couple of different outfits throughout the show as well.
Also, Alfrey Woodard(I think that's how you spell her name)the actress who played Aunt Josephine is actually an extremely talented award winning actress. It's just that for whatever reason, this was not the best project for her. I noticed that this show seemed to have a very specific stylized style of acting. She probably just couldn't adjust her own acting skills for this. But seriously! lol she really is a wonderful actress. She has been nominated for an Oscar, has 4 Emmys and 18 nominations, a Golden Globe and 3 Screen Actors Guild Awards. She's good...really lol
Bitch_Im_Cute I have read the books, and agree with this videos stance on Snicket, I'm not saying that his role is wrong, but in the show it was handled with strange transitions and the creators would have needed extra effort to transpose the definitions from page to screen.
Sevro Au Barca no, I definitely agree with that. It could have been done much better. But he seemed to think Snicket was just there for no reason at all. I was just clarifying.
When Snicket wrote the ' a word which here means,' digressions, he often did so ironically, assuming that the reader was well aware of the intended meaning, and did it as a commentary on how children's books would often spoon feed their audience.
When Snicket wrote the ' a word which here means,' digressions, he often did so ironically, assuming that the reader was well aware of the intended meaning, and did it as a commentary on how children's books would often spoon feed their audience.
4:24 Snicket defines words all the time in the books. This is why making a fair compression almost requires you to read the books. Because you don't know if they're doing something because the creators wanted to, or because they did it in the book.
Dylan Johnson it works really well stylistically in the books but it doesn't work that well in the show adaptation
@@sheeplavender3261 I think it works fine, Snicket deliberately doesn't want you to watch / listen / read it, so he pauses it, occassionally ruining the moments intentionally.
@@RadTechFred also In both the series and book it annoys the heck out you in telling you every 5 minutes to look away and not read the book or watch the show
@@sheeplavender3261 i think it works because instead of reading out the definition of whatever they're talking about, Snicket explains the relevance to what's happening, he doesn't give the exact meaning, but a version that gives more context
@@o0Scarrow0o Snicket tells you that at the beginning of every plot, and at the beginning of every episode. I haven't read the books in years, so i can't really tell you that, but it really isn't that common in the show
Very sparing with its humor? Monty: I will go get the children who you say have barricaded themselves in the reptile room because you chased them up and down the stairs with a knife
Olaf : simple misunderstanding
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Monty : Your generosity is noted Stephano
Olaf (normal voice) : my name is not (Stephano voice) anything buuuuuut Stephano
Your point is very well made here as I legit chuckled among reading both of these.
LOL all the characters you didn’t like are exactly the same in the books 😂 stop being dramatic! They were actually really great actors!
Agreed, I was really mad that the parts he hates about the characters are WHAT THEY ARE IN THE BOOKS. He should really do more research before complaining about how GOOD the Netflix show did with the characters.
The characters did the job they were supposed to do. It's "dramatic irony" being used and the audience is supposed to be upset no adult can see through the disguises. This guy seems to be letting his emotions affect his judgement of the acting.
The show is so accurate and adds some filer to questions to people who read the books and it is supposed to be sad that is how the story goes
I very much disagree with your opinion on snicket. I thought he brought some of the best moments of the series. Especially in the 3rd season. He even brings a dark comic relief
Ikr
Well it looks like
The author’s execution has been cancelled
For Carrey, How did he break character asking for the line? Olaf, He's an actor and was being an a-hole by having to act out his remorse.
Arianna Paletta Darker? Was the contrast on the light clothing of the characters a sign of innocence? The dark drab colors are drab and constrained by finances, while the colors in the movie seem more real and still seeming bleak.Comedic?The comedy in the show breaks the line of the film's plot for extra scenes while the comedy from Jim Carry, however misguided, made a better more "One Sided" character. Saying Count Olaf's portrayal in the movie is bad because it was played by Jim Carry is deserved but in a review comparison that should not take away from the movie. Forgetting his Lines? If you hate breaking the 4th wall the show does it way too much to not be a distraction from the plot, while Olaf asking to take it from the top was in character and flowed well to display who Olaf was.I admire the not taking the short length of the movie as a handycap, but by ignoring the cheap production of the show it is as if he has given a handicap to the show. Un fair.... Upon just seeing the examples even in this video I would have thought the movie better, and, having watched both productions, know that the movie is exceptionally better then the show.
+Arianna Paletta That's exactly what I thought for all these years but really that was Jim Carrey breaking character whilst staying IN character. Thanks for watching and commenting Arianna!
no way! well i still don't think you should get mad about it haha xD
Eric Carter I know that's what happened, but it doesn't take away from the preformance
Sevro Au Barca Of course it doesn't. I'm just saying it shows how much of a Jim Carrey performance this is. It has his staple Carrey-isms throughout his performance.
Saying a bunch of definitions and stuff is a big part of the books if you read them.
15:30 its the same in the books.
this doesn't make it entertaining to watch
Smoking Jacket The show was based off the books. It makes me mad when people act like "omg they're ruining it" then read the books and you'll learn and enjoy it
not everything in literature translates well to the screen. They're two different mediums. I believe as a kid that was fun to read but watching it now as an adult is irritating, mainly because it is done way too much. The bit is overplayed and loses its authentic edge because we already saw it too much
KatanNamedSimon look at it this way, in the books, the only form of storytelling you're getting is through Snicket's retelling. No sound, no visual aid. You depend on the narrator as your one and only window into this world, which makes it easier to hang on to every word he says. it helps that he is deeply and mysteriously connected to these kids' story and their dead parents. So you welcome the author's digressions because it would often provide you with another glimmer of insight into the big picture. or, sometimes, hilariously the opposite.
On-screen, however, you're already watching the story unfold, so Snicket only ever pops up really to just stop a scene dead in it's tracks so you can watch a man of no particular relevance walk out and assault you with dad humor. speaking of, I like the actor playing him but this version of Snicket feels like somebody dragged their dad in to read lines from a script with a sense of humor that goes right over his head
He was way to angry about aunt josaphene
Lorenzo Valdez I mean yeah, but in the movie, she was played by Meryl Streep
Lorenzo Valdez I have to 100 percent DISAGREE with him on the actress in the show. Yes, might not have liked her performance as Josaphine but damn she's not "shit" at acting!! Alfre Woodard is an AMAZING actress who has done MANY things in Hollywood and could wipe the floor with her acting resume!! So FUCK off
After reading the book I have to say that Meryl Streep did a way better job than the person in the show
TOO NOT TO
Alfre Woodard holds a special space in my heart, I loved her as Betty Applewhite and I enjoyed her performance in the show, but knowing she's a very competent actress made me feel sad she didn't give it 100%, or maybe it was the acting coach screwing up. I'm not sure, but she was definetly a good Aunt Josephine. I really wished she would end like the book version, though.
Meryl Streep is a tough "competetor" though and I definetly understand why people trend to prefer Meryl Streep over Alfre Woodard in this role.
When you don't understand the point of a show:
Yutaro Sebastian kida it is like the books and did you watch all the seasons it is supposed to be confusing and make you think of questions
Kermit The frog, I agree with you I loved the show but you spelt kinda wrong
Someone's salty...
Because some enjoy watching over reading?
Yes, mr Poe was written to be despised, and the show makes you LOATHE him
Yeah, it is so weird that he is complaining about how the character Mr Poe is supposed to be. The guy in the Netflix show perfectly showed how frustrating Mr Poe is, whether I am reading the books or watching the show I got a strong urge to want to punch Mr Poe which I feel like you are supposed to feel that way about him.
Actually I disagree, his disguises in the show were more obvious than in the movie
Brandon Lewis ikr
No way
The disguises in the show are also just like how they are in the book though
No the disguised in the show were way better
Agreed
“The actress who plays Count Josephine can’t act for shit.”
Literally an Oscar nominee!!
All the more reason you would expect a much better performance from her in A Series of Unfortunate Events. Since this video I have seen her in more stuff and she is a much better actress than I initially thought. Which is why it baffles me that she turned in this horrible and patronizing performance.
Okay, but it feels like you should've done more research on that. When you don't look up the actress and making a generalizing statement like that, your script comes off as lazy.
@@withalittlehelpfrom3 yes bitch wipe the floor with his ass
Um, Actually i think you mean Aunt Josephine, not Count Josephine.
I love her as aunt Josephine
Really?! The ending of the movie is better because it is a lighter end?! But the Netflix series is great and the ending was amazing I mean, come on man the title is a series of UNFORTUNATE events not happy events it shouldn't have a lighter ending and in the Netflix series the makeup is really good I don't think you can do better plus seeing lemony snicket makes me very happy because I NEEDED to see what he actually looked liked I know this is kind of a rant and I still loved the video but I love the Netflix series wayyyy better because Neil Patrick Harris is perfect for the roll and they probably got the best actors for the series possible although I hated aunt Josephine in the series they should've changed it
Superstar shield yeah and that wasn’t even an ending! The next season just hadn’t came out yet
That's only someone playing Lemony Snicket.
The thing is, the ending fits the movie's tone. It doesn't matter what the source material says, a book series doesn't work as a film by itself. They took creative liberties which worked better for the type of film they were going for. It's a miracle that the movie is as faithful as it is.
Plus the ending he talked about was season ones there are like two more seasons and the story till the ending is supposed to be sad the song even says a tall full of woe and it is supposed to be a not happy story
I personally like Lemony in the show better. I feel like in the movie he feels like he his not needed, but he is, he tells the freakin story for crying out loud. I also I actually kinda likes the Lemony breaks the tension.For example, in the Hostile Hospital, when The Baudelaire’s are about to jump 20 feet down, midway Lemony pauses them in midair. Also, I like Sunny better in the show. As the show is farther developed Sunny is SUPER helpful.
Exactly. The entire ASOUE storyline is being retold by Lemony. When he's covering the first book, the entire story has already happened.
@@OWmyDragonballzexactly, the series is Lemony trying to find out what happened to the children of Beatrice aka the Baudelaire children.
I could tell it was Jim Carey right away. Also you compared two completely different scenes. 🙄 Plus, don’t call the wife FAT because you wouldn’t like to be called fat. That’s an actual person be nice. And wow you’re EXTREMELY rude with the actor of the aunt.
Morgan yaaasssss queen
Morgan Also why he gotta call everyone retarded
Haters gonna hate
@Pinnacle Edge *DID YOU JUST INSULT MY FELLOW VOLUNTEER?! YOU ARE GOING TO BURN IN THE ONLY FIRE THE VFD AREN'T EVEN GOING TO TRY TO PUT OUT!*
@@user-me1tk9yx2l how is That funny?? =_=
To all the people who hate the show: you should have listened to the intro.
ikr
Yup it’s so catchy
YAAS
Flying Legos - ROBLOX very catchy...
Jiok Huikalo Ye it’s so catchy
"Figuratively not literally" Haha good one. I don't know if anyone noticed that
Alec Steeley Lol, only you and one other person noticed it. :) Thanks for watching buddy!
Eric Carter Haha thanks for replying. It was a really great video. I love this book series and all the adaptations
I'm afraid I have to your part about your part about the The Baudelaire children.I think the one's from the Nexflix series should not be the victor because they got one thing wrong:Violet's dress is pink and in The Vile Village it is said that Violet hate's pink.
Alec Steeley I did
Eric Carter Oops I Dropped a pen on the floor count Olaf through's a pen across the floor
Ive Heard a lot of people say the same thing: "Count Olaf could have killed Mr.Poe anytime!"
But don't you understand that in order for Count Olaf to get his hands on the children's fortune, he first needs to have legal control over them, and Mr.Poe is the one he needs to convince that he is a worthy guardian or that he has been left in charge, killing him would do no good. If he killed him in The Reptile Room #2, after being proved to be Count Olaf, it would only make it harder for him to get the children's money.
CastiCola Also, Mr. Poe is such an idiot constantly delivering the kids right into Count Olaf’s hands. Why would Olaf want to kill him? Lol
Count OLAF: "Soda soda banana." Sunny: " Bite me."
That was a very fun scene.
The reason Snicket is in so many scenes is because it's him telling the story of the Baudelaires. We aren't watching it happen. We are watching him explain the story.
Here are some of my problems with this video.
1. There are nine books left in the series not ten.
2. Lemony Snicket changes his outfit more than just at the beach. Heck you show the example at the orchard where he's wearing overalls. 5:17
3. Also the Netflix has brighter and more diverse colors. At least not all the characters in the netflix series wore black clothing.
4. About the comedy, that was pretty biased about what you said about Sunny making the comedy better. There were more funny and clever moments I caught including a fourth wall break, a Nickolodeon reference, a joke involving an hour glass, a funny remark about Mr. Poe's childhood, and a reference to the 2008 real estate crash.
5. What you said about Aunt Josephine was mean. Screaming is part of her character and at least she stands up to Count Olaf instead of openly giving the Baudalaires to him.
No, there are 10 books left. He covered the first 3 and there are 13 books in the series.
1. Yeah what he said
2. Humour is subjective so what you find funny may not be for him
3. As someone who's read the book I have to say that Meryl Streep played the character amazingly and the woman in the show did terribly, as you said giving the Baudalaires to Count Olaf was part of her character and it made more sense also it makes Count Olaf look more like a despicable bastard. Her randomly standing up for herself was well random and didn't make much sense.
4 Books are told in Season 1. I believe another 4 were told for season 2. The last season is going to hold either 5 or 4 since I need to double check for Season two.
Failure Bee 5 books were adapted in Season 2
Op, five books. Thank you :D I forget and I just watched it.
I actually liked the tv series more. I only read a couple of the books when i was little but i admired the sheer absurdity nature of the show.
This video gets to me for some odd reason. I try to look at his points in his point of view but I still think the show was much better than the movie in general! The characters are much more like the books and it makes the series so much better. The series has more time to explain everything and you get more time to actually listen and it doesn’t feel as rushed. When I watched the movie I felt like barley any of the guardians had any lines because their scenes were so rushed. Both count Olaf’s were fabulous but you could tell it was Count Olaf more in the movie than the series. In the series you also feel more sorry for the children and the count Olaf in the series threatens them more but in the movie it seems like it’s a joke or something? Obviously this is my opinion but the series for me is about a 9/10 and the movie about a 6/10.
KatieM never read the books, but I'm preparing to. I loved the show much more too
I agree with you
I KNOW RIGHT!
Yeah, maybe the movie is better standalone, but the show is a much better adaptation
Aside from adding a few extra things, the Netflix show pretty much feels like I was dropped into the world that the books created which is why I love the Netflix version so much. Like some of the things he complains about are things pulled from the books like Lemony’s side stories, Josephine being over the top and being more concerned about grammar than the safety of the children, Count Olaf’s bad disguises somehow fooling everyone except the Baudelaire children, Sunny’s very sharp teeth, and especially Mr Poe being the most infuriating person in the entire series with how stupid he is. All the things he complained about are in the book, especially when Lemony is reciting lines straight from the book which gave the story a rather unique flair.
12:56 "More specifically his fat wife"....woah, what's with the body shaming? Was that really necessary?
I kinda questioned that too tbh; then he uses the r slur a time or two and then I figured 'oh he's just one of Those kinds of people' lmaoo
@@starlightsoiree Yeah and honestly, his critique was really shallow, he clearly didn't get most of the concepts that make the series work so definitely one of those kinds of people.
Really? Body shaming?
@@Error_-ct2vp i mean... yea he did LMAO
The Jinxed Jailer But is it necessary to get mad over? It’s just a joke
I agree with you on a lot except one thing. You mentioned Lemony's appearance ruined it, but you have to remember the books are a third person narrative. There's events in the story that not even Lemony knows, but what he does he explains in great detail.
Thanks. If you watch my Series of Unfortunate Events Season 2 video I elaborate on why Snicket's appearance is not as necessary in movie form.
Eric Carter It’s not necessary, but it was a deliberate choice to create a specific atmosphere that you just don’t like, not bad writing.
@@EricCarter12 yeah, in MOVIE form, not tv show form.
The series has a lot more bright colours than the movie though
Maisie but not at the beginning
The movie version is brighter overall, but the series focuses on placing the brighter colours on the children and the happy moments or memories as a contrast to the monochromatic and cruel world they face all the time. So you see brighter colours in the series, but they have a certain role in the storytelling (compare them to the almost monochromatic settings of Olaf's mansion, their burnt house, Aunt Josephine's house, the factory, etc,.) whereas in the movie, they don't use vibrant colours but as a whole is much brighter.
brightness does not equal more colorful. the series is more colorful. you even said it yourself.
you are absolutely right, but Maisie talked about bright colours in the series, and I think that the series, whereas colourful, was less bright than the movie.
It depends on what you mean by "bright colors." The movie has a warmer color grading, so everything is a little more "comforting." in the netflix series everything is graded very blue, so it feels "cold" and sad. That actual color scheme of the movie is pretty gray and black -- there is a general lack of color. But the colors are saturated, so it feels like a "brighter" world if that makes sense. The netflix series is more "colorful" -- there is a wider range of existing colors and tones, but they are desaturated and dulled out. I think in the movie, they kept saturation high while keeping actual colors of objects and costumes dark and somber. There is also much nicer contrast between darks and lights, so everything is much more visually striking. It keeps the film looking modern and beautiful but without making it too cheery looking. I think it was a good decision, because the film looks gorgeous. The show looks just kinda boring to me. :/ And usually I like a desaturated look. I think it just falls flat for me, because I feel like desaturation signals "serious," but the netflix series is just too wacky and cartoonish in its writing, and so the look ends up clashing with the writing.
Something I found really threatening about Olaf in the show was how casually he'd threaten the children at times. He'd talk about thinks like slitting Klaus' throat or ripping out Violets hair in the same tones most people would discuss the weather.
swordhunter12 'Sunny?'
'I'd say partly cloudy'
I'm sorry lmao
I read the books before the movie was released. I like both versions, but the Netflix version is closer to the book because it has more time to tell it.
jennifer bennett-collins it's more faithful to the books but the series is so bad and unbelievable and tries too hard to funny
It loses it's tone of dread and hopelessness
The acting is so bad and the characters are unlikable
"She's so frickin' pathetic, she doesn't even get pushed off, she gets POKED OFF!!". This killed me
I waited for the video to redeem itself in ANY way possible but I'm honestly in awe at how backwards a review can be. I mean this is just a disaster. Beyond being completely misinformed and unaware, it's so clear that you don't give a shit about this. I don't even believe you watched these in their entirety.
And just stop saying retarded for fuck sakes.
Su Unal So what exactly is your problem with his review? You didn't actually say anything that would be validated as a good point. So what's the problem?
@@MisterUnknown707 Well,
1. The tone of the series is darker and Olaf is infinitely more cruel: It's more than obvious that it's the other way around, the series has a much more cartoonish atmosphere whereas the movie is grim and keeps it relatively realistic throughout.
2. The movie uses comedy more than the series: While they both have an absurd and dark sense of humor, the series is far more exaggerated and light-hearted, almost to a surreal extent.
3. The creator didn't like Snicket's costume gags so there's only one near the beginning: Well, this is just straight up false.
4. Snicket's "interruptions" are a way to draw younger kids in, unnecessary at times and ruins the moment: See, the thing is, that interruption IS "the moment". I understand that it can be a personal preference, but it's almost like saying the songs in Grease were interruptions. He made the remark that he didn't read the books which used this type of obvious storytelling as a main vehicle, but just the series by itself makes it clear that that's the way the story is going to be told. It's not an additional tool, it's inherent.
5.The character break that he mentions around 9:10 : I don't know if he's joking with that and I'm completely misunderstanding, but Olaf is an egotistical actor, that is EXACTLY in character.
6. Actors being unnatural, mentioned around 11:00 : The tone isn't supposed to be natural or realistic, that scene is not a one time mishap, that is how things work in that universe.
7. The criticism against Poe: This was just straight up criticism against the actual character, not the way he's been portrayed, he just criticized the character for being an annoying idiot. Well, he is that? He's supposed to be that. I honestly don't get this one.
8. The series has a low budget: No it doesn't. They built those sets from zero, there was minimal green screening as mentioned by the actors themselves, the show had an immense budget. I felt the CGI being laughable at times was a conscious choice but not liking it is personal so I'll give him that.
9. Concluding the story can be visually told its entirety unlike Harry Potter: Well, saying that without reading the books is just not right. That could be the case, but there's no way he can conclude on that without actually reading the original. (Especially when the story has so many obvious literary references and gags.)
10. And as a minor point, I found the remarks about the "fat" wife and the constant mention of things being "retarded" distasteful. It seems childish and just simply unnecessary.
There is no actual care for the storytelling, and I may be taking this WAY too seriously but I do care about this story. I found the lack of even the bare minimum effort to get simple facts right disturbing.
YES. THESE ARE FACTS.
I don’t believe it either
Pause at 4:57 and look out the window. foreshadowing season 2.
That wouldn't be the self sustaining hot mobile home. If you look very closely to the blue balloon, it is only one big ballon attached.
It is, the guy who made it in the books and the Show said it can never go back down to the ground. And that Snicket said he was investigating the case of the Children, it’s after the events of the books.
I know that was creepy
I love the series. Books and show alike and they are very very very great! I love how in the beginning of the show it looks very happy but it feels like something sinister is being covered up. (I also love sunny and I feel like Presley Smith will have a wonderful future in acting.
I loved the seens with the Quagmire's
Him telling what the words mean is a joke that the author uses in all his books
+Brendan Fingal Thanks for the info Brendan!
No problem
It could also be a way to teach vocabulary in an interesting way, they are books for children 10+ so it makes more sense he put big words in and explained instead of just a simple word since 95% of the targeted audience wouldn't even see it as a recurring joke
Pratchett did this way better
What are u talking about? The movie is way more darker than the show. The show is more cartoony and dumb and doesnt take itself seriously.
UndeadSlayer5 I KNOW RIGHT. I have no clue what he was talking about when we said that the movie was more colorful. The movie is DRAINED from color. I think that adds the the effect. I personally find the movie better than the show.
UndeadSlayer5 the show is more accurate to the books
Connor MacNair And so?
IN ALL CAPS well the more accurate the better
Connor MacNair I wholeheartedly don't believe that. I believe that you could change up the adaption while still staying faithful to the book. An adaption doesn't have to copy the book like it's the holy bible
Basically the show is a complete recreation of the books
I think you really have to be a tv first or book first fan.
If you're coming from the movie alone you aren't going to understand or appreciate many of the quirks that make the series this series.
When I started the show I didn’t even know about the books or TV. I loved it a lot.
The actress for Aunt Josephine is actually extremely fantastic at acting, but I guess the character isn't right for her. Just watch Luke Cage, she is a better villain in that show than here.
+TheSpiderNoob Interesting. I will give it a look. Thanks for the suggestion and thanks for watching!
I think Alfrie Woodard who plays Aunt Josephine in the show is a good actor. All of the characters are over dramatic and eccentric. She may have overdone it, but she's not a bad actress.
Yeah the Mr. Poe from the show is pretty accurate to the books, although his true colors aren't shown until a little later in the books. While he was a dope in the books for the first few I still felt that he cared about the children... until he makes it clear that he cares more about his job then them around book 6 or 7. If you really hate him that much you might like his ultimate fate.
I very much disagree with you about Lemony Snickets in the series. You don't get how humorous, Snickets word explanations are. He is one of my favorite parts of the show. Deadpan humor at it's finest.
It’s funny because he says he won’t see the series again, but THIS GIRL has seen it three times
I freaking hate Mr Poe he's pretty much the same in the books
Eric: Snicket never changes his outfit after the beach scene
Count Olaf: *WRONG*
i mostly agree with you here and on the whole its a great video but i have to disagree with you about lemony snicket; his purpose is to break the mood, interrupt scenes, detach the audience from the moment. stuff like this is often used in expressionist theatre to make the audience more critical of the things happening on-stage, rather than thinking more with emotions than logic, which i think is a great addition to the show. it happens in the books too, where something really suspenseful is happening and right on the cliffhanger you get a page of snicket's ramblings. as both a callback to the books and with a solid dramatic function i personally love it, but thats just me :)
+megzy Randz That's totally fine. We are all entitled to our own opinions and I am happy that you enjoyed it. Thanks so much for watching and commenting Megzy!
15:28
I thought he was gonna say, “she is bloody BLACK”
Am I the only one who thinks that you CANT COMPARE TWO ADAPTATIONS WITHOUT SEEING THE ORIGINAL
you mean reading
The show does not have a "darker aesthetic." It does use juxtaposition to convey how horrible the orphans feel by contrasting their immediate environment with the bright and happy tones that go on around them. The film is the one with the darker tone.
disagree
someone just came straight out of a high school english class lmao (but jokes aside I agree)
I do really like the TV show better. I just like how it has more detail to the books and I understood it a lot better. So I totally agree with you that the TV show is better.
+Grace Banashak That's pretty much the same reason why I like it a bit more too. Thanks for watching buddy!
I liked this video but the shitting on Alfre Woodard is a bit...much. Yes, I think she was miscast and possibly poorly directed for this role. But if you took the time to look at any of her work you'd see she is more than competent. Take for instance Luke Cage where she is a standout character.
Patterbits What her acting is like in other projects is irrelevant. What matters is how she acts in what I'm reviewing. And as far as I could tell, none of her talent was showcased in here.
Thanks for watching!
I understand your point, but it just seemed like you got a bit past criticism and it became a bit of a mean spirited tirade. Again I agree with you, she wasn't good. I think the role wasn't a good fit for her.
You are, quite simply, wrong--about your own review, strangely enough. You go well beyond disliking her performance in this series and state, several times (I lost count), "this actress (never by name) can't act" or versions thereof. A mistake of ignorance, at best.
TLDR:
Take this friendly criticism as a learning opportunity--it is often hard to be sure how one's own rhetoric falls on other ears.
Here, your words come across very poorly. Judging by your voice-over alone: 1) you are strangely unfamiliar with a very gifted actress; and 2) you are too lazy or irresponsible to take a minute to look her up and familiarize yourself--even a little bit--with her work before trashing her basic skills and talent. (Here's a recent, quick example for you: her 2 minute cameo scene in Captain America: Civil War is easily the best acting in a film full of good actors. With quick heartbreak and stifled rage, she fully embodies the reasons for Stark's political choice. It is instantly clear why Woodward was brought in for this pivotal scene.)
Notice I didn't broadly insult your skilll as a critic, in general. Since I'm unfamiliar with anything else you've done, I stuck to pointing out the fundamental mistake you make here. If I cared enough to question your very legitimacy, I'd research your oeuvre before making rash statements. Alfre Woodward has much more fully earned the same respect.
Hate her performance here all you want. But don't say she can't act. An impressive body of prior work begs to differ.
The Netflix Olaf acted overtly evil, but was subconsciously and secretly unhappy about himself, his life and his choices in life- but was too proud and forgone to do anything to change it. The Movie Olaf is more friendly, but that hides how much more heartless and devious he is- especially since the movie never reach the end of the book series, like the Netflix series did, so he comes across as an irredeemable monster with no sad depths to his personality.
When he starts the review off by saying he has never read the books, instantly knew this would be terrible.
Mr. Poe is exactly like that in the book. You're not supposed to like him necessarily.
My favorite part of the new ghost busters movie is the end when she licks the guns. Omg freaking brilliant.
Actually the books and the series are the same
Snicket also intrudes a lot and I don’t mind it
And aunt Josephine is the same in the tv show and in the series, except in the books th never stops being a coward
Poe is the same in both
I loved these Books. This series was a big part of my childhood
Lemony Snicket is actually my favourite part of the show/books.
This will be a Great Theory. “ The true Villain? -Shows Mr Poe. “
I actually liked the movie Olaf better, because he at least tried to put on a facade. A bad guy who might as well run around with a sign that says "I'm the villian" is less menacing makes me increasingly pissed off when the adults don't see through it
+Ciara.Chaya That's a very good point. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Saying what the words mean isn't for learning. It's for comedic effect. It's done in the books as well, also somewhat in the movie.
“I haven’t read the books”
*lol triggered*
What I find more crazy about this review is the fact that’s he’s complaining about how naive the adults are like bruh that’s the whole point 😂
You should read the freaking books! The show is much more accurate, both in storytelling and character depictions, but you criticize them because of personal preference. At least Daniel Handler was directly involved in the show, and approved of its depiction, unlike the movie. The movie was rushed and had bad development/character depictions
I've read the books and really enjoyed it but I hate the show even though it's far more faithful than the movie
The show is way too comedic and the acting is horrible
Sheep Lavender why are you saying bad acting even if it was, you'd be a hypocrite because the movie is worse acting
C T sometimes reading the books makes you bias
Hey Eric, I made a similar video, check it out! Would love to hear your thoughts.
Nitpix I loved your review greatly! My only complaint was that you didn't mention much about the music. Otherwise, it was perfect!
Your review was almost the exact opposite of this one.
Yeah and you're a fucking moron.
@HydraJingleJinx Easy there edge lord. Why don't you got back to your animes and devintArt account.
Edge lord? Exqueeze me?
WELL WHY DON'T I THEN? BLACK BUTLER IS AWESOME AND *DEVIANTART IS WHERE I GET MY STUFF FOR MMD! HAHAHAHAHAHAH
Honestly I prefer that “lemony snicket” is in the Netflix show 😒🧐
“It’s one of those shows that after the first time u view it u never wanna watch it again”
Meanwhile me, who’s watching it over for a 6th (maybe I lost count XD) time: am I a joke to u
Lol. I was speaking for myself. If you enjoy it then by all means. I'm glad you enjoyed it that much. I personally couldn't watch it again after the first viewing. And to this day, I still haven't. 😜
Alfre Woodard isn't a bad actress (She is Mariah Dillard in Luke Cage) she was simply given bad material
+Jay Coop That's understandable.
Thanks.
+Eric Carter, the author of a series of unfortunate events didn't just write one draft of the script, but 8 that were never used.
Joe Damn, that is cruel. Thanks for the info buddy!
I love how count Olaf says figuratively for literally and literally for figuratively
This was teeeeerrible!!! I can't even finish watching you complain.
Well leave, or give tips, don't just COMPLAIN.
look away then
Ash G just look away, look awaaaay
there's nothing but horror and inconvinience along the way so just look a way
@@skyrimandskuldduggerypleas491 Didn't you read the post dummy? I did :)
This is related to the NETFLIX SERIES not the movie.
If you hate Arthur Poe from the series, just remember his actor did a tremendous job. Poe's foolish behaviour was bloody hilarious at times.
But you've got to admit, though the movie Aunt Josephine was better, she just gave up the kids to Olaf unlike the Netflix one, who at least stood up to Olaf for a while.
4:57 outside the window there is a large figure in the distance which looks like the airship from book 7
PilotKnight 1216 i think it is. Lemony is narrating the Baudelaires story after it happened. And I guess it was also a hint for season 2
One of those characters you mention - Dr Montgomery - is famous scottish comedian Billy Connolly isn't it?
betamax80 yes
betamax80 Yes, yes he is. This instantly gives the movie +20 points.
Yes. The true god of comedy!!
To me i thought he was John Cleese.
Yes... of course, the tone of the show is SO MUCH MORE DARKER AND LESS COLORFUL. YOU OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T MIX THEM UP
When he started complaining about lemony snicket in the TV show I was outraged because everything he gave backlash about is why I love the character so much! Whenever me and my sister watch the show all over again because we love it, it's just constant lemony snicket fan girling because his actor in the show really does a great job.
Exactly! Lemony Snicket himself is one of the main reasons why I adored the books and series. I felt like the movie really didn’t use him well.
@@stefannydvorak7919 you totally get me
Every version of Mr. Poe is written to be incompetent. He’s dismissive of them as children, and as individuals. And he ultimately never learns his lesson or actually helps the children.
The tv show and books are very similar actually. Poe is more infuriating in the books though. He's more stubborn and stupid in them. I don't like him in either version. He supposed to be infuriating. And the movie was awful. I prefer the books and the tv show. And I loved Josephine in the show. She was a lot more like the book version to me and more fun to watch. She had problems sure but she was a good person and at least in the show she stood up for the children rather then give them over to count Olaf
+Emily The Book Tuber That I agree. That scene could have redeemed her but when you find out that she was becoming more serious and confident over a grammatical errors rather than for the kids, that was the final straw.
Thanks for watching and commenting buddy! I have plenty more versus videos coming up, including of movies that will be in theatres.
Have you actually read the books? Josephine was a horrible and weak person, and that was the entire point of her character. They made her out to be much stronger than she was in the book, getting rid of the concept that all adults are fools that is clearly established throughout all the books. Sir is also, for some reason, showing his face in the series when the smoke covering his head and hiding his appearance demonstrates how alien he was to the kids, and how, no matter how much the kids try, they'll never be able to address him as a guardian. Are you sure you have read the books?
Huh. I thought the thing with Josephine was a style choice, to make her seem that much more kooky. She kinda fit in with the universe of Adults Are Useless. So does Poe, who is fantastically atrocious (a word which here means "remarkably well meaning but also tragically ignorant and naive") as a person in the books, too. I don't recall him being uncaring, though. And I don't even know if he's meant to be uncaring in the Netflix series, though. Like he clearly wants them to go to good guardians, but is just an idiot about it.
The tone of the books is somewhere between the movie and the TV series, I think, but I'm very happy with the series, since I, unlike most people it seems going off the number of people who say _Prisoner of Azkaban_ is the best Potter film, like my adaptations to be pretty direct with only a few changes. The VFD thing being present was a change I liked, and I liked that all of their guardians, except in the Mill, were part of that at one point or another. I'm really, really excited to see the next three or four books be adapted- Austere Academy, Erstaz Elevator, Vile Village, and possibly Hostile Hospital. I dunno if they'll run all four books, since the books do get longer as the series goes on (kinda- Grim Grotto is shorter than Slippery Slope), and they can't do 4 books per season unless the last season is set to be 5 books long. I kinda see the rest of the seasons being 3 books each.
Speaking of, there's 9/13 books left, not ten. The Netflix series covered books 1-4 (Bad Beginning, Reptile Room, Wide Window, and Miserable Mill), not 1-3 like the movie.
They're gonna do 5 6 7 8 AND 9, so that's a plus.
Ellie F , haha, I liked your use of "which here means.."
also, so I'm really not the only person ever who isn't a gigantic fan of movie- "Prisoner-of-Azkaban? "
+volunteer twelve Heh, thanks. And no, I kind of thought it was one of the worst Potter films. That and Goblet are, I think, among the worst. Goblet for a different reason, since only parts of plot events were cut but fragments were kept. My favourite being _everything_ that happened after Harry finds Crouch's body, because the movie ceases to make any sort of sense and it's kind of glorious? Not that the movie made sense before that, because Rita's article about "Harry Potter's Secret Heartache" came out BEFORE the Yule Ball- it came out right after the First Task. Spot the problem xD
Ok. You misinterpreted that scene of the movie at 9:21. Since Olaf was portrayed as an evil over the top character who was an actor, Olaf tried to "act" sad that their parents died, but he felt like he messed up, so in order to to try to reconvince Poe, he confuses the children in doing the "line" again and make it more genuine. I would go into more detail, but that's where I wanted to talk.
+480014574 No I always thought the same with this scene. But it turns out if you do some research that it was not in the script and Jim Carrey broke character in this scene. Thanks for watching buddy!
Eric Carter Oh. Ok. That puts my point Way out of the window. I'm sorry that I put nostalgia in front of logic. I absolutely love the movie and I have barely watched the show.
480014574 Lol don't worry about it. I used to think the same thing when I saw this movie. :)
You were actually originally right, this moment wasn't improvised or just some mistake that was left in the film. It's actually in the script which makes sense because the line after it is Sunny saying 'what a schmuck' which wouldn't make sense without any kind of gag before it. Many people also say that the reason the kids look so confused and uncertain at this moment is because Carey caught them off guard with his improvisation. However it would be impossible to be capturing in camera both Carey delivering the gag and the kids faces/reaction simultaneously as both camera's would impeach on each other's frames whilst rolling. It would also be impossible for this to be an improvised moment as the shot in which Carey say's 'give me the line again' and the reaction shot of him gasping dramatically after Klaus has said 'our parents just died' for the second time, these two shot's of Carey are completely different frames and a whole new set up would need to be made by the crew in order to capture this. The only way this could be achieved in real time is if the crew were filming with 3 camera's at the same time, however this is incredibly unlikely as industry standard for shooting on a film set is at the most 2 camera's for a normal scene like this between people talking, and even if 3 camera's were in use you would be able to see camera's all over the place in almost every shot. So yeah
but I like when Snicket appears!
Omg season 3 was so good
Im not trying to make you think im triggered but snicket constantly intrudes in the show cause thats his main thing in thebooks literlly
+Ethan Roberts Thats fine. In the books it probably did make more sense. But when they adapt it to a TV show or movie which is a visual medium then they need to make certain alterations to make it work. Thanks for watching buddy!