MHW Iceborne | The Fatalis LS is actually OP
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- Fatalis speedrun on day 2 after release.
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✦ Skills ✦
shown at the end of the video
♬ Music ♬
Tekken - Ігри
You know times are hard when TDS members need to pick up shinies on the floor even while recording speedruns
Thats why I just equip my cat with the Plunder blade when I am either solo or just in a 2 man group.
And use both rock steady and temporal.
Francis Harkins how do you get plunder blade?
@@francisharkins but that only gets you trade in items doesn't it?
@@Rhea_is_gay Follow Odagoron with a ghillie mantle on in rotten vale expedition. When he takes the legiana corpse back to his cave you'll get the rest of the info from your palico. Bring raw meat too~
First time I've ever seen TDS pick up a shiny during a speedrun
I AGREEEE . they demostrated that fatalis is neeeededd for them
They want all the layered armour bruh
It's actually an extremely important part of the speedrun, as without it they don't shave off those precious 0.00153 seconds
1st time i see TDS bring their cats on a speedrun
@@pututsoul7681 you only need cortex for the layered, wich you can only get by killing Fatalis, not by a shiny drop
Fatalis...When Capcom wants TDS videos to be 11mnt so they can have ads!
“And this is where I’d keep my Fatalis longsword...IF I HAD ONE”
The Baka Potato shit like dat
There's a cheese mechanic you can use with the plunderclaw or whatever it is called which allows you to get a ton of materials to craft his gear. Which is also the reason you may see some people with full fatalis gear but they Kind a suck at the game
@@seide2829 wait what?
@@spark1818 my bad it's called the plunderblade the palico gadget. You can get more than enough items from him to craft gear similar to alatreon or so I heard. Haven't used it myself but I'll double check if it's actually a thing
@@seide2829 well thanks for the tip because i keep dying on the last phase
You know a speedrun is serious when they're using temporal mantle
even bring their palicoes with them
And it takes 13 minutes
@@tazza0114 Fatalis has a bunch of big and wide attacks with huge delays, which makes it much more consistent to bring a Palico, if it aims at them, it's literally free hits.
ArakDBlade yeah that’s probably the biggest. TDS special is to kill stuffs extremely fast , and Fatalis took 11 minutes of nearby perfect Ls usage ; that says A LOT about this fight.
Fatalis HP is around 66k solo (100k on this one probably I have to check the MH researchers data for it) + bad HZV compare to Alatreon plus He is slow + weird hitboxes + Love to AoE spam + Very Wide AoE attack + chip dmg from parry + still can pin you even you parry the body flop attack + and a whole a lot of annoyingness. like Lunastra's level of annoying.
This fight is more just take the hit on the face when using rocksteady and auto evade on temporal and speedrunning using TA wiki rules will be a nightmare.
I feel it might be helpful to leave some tips for some of you who haven't beaten him yet.
1. Use Dragon Pods. Two of these will always stagger unless the monster is doing an animation you can't cancel.
2. Unlike Alatreon, bring Farcasters. I didn't for my first few runs cause I've completely forgot that most monsters let you Farcast.
3. I would recommend that if you are struggling to beat him, use Plunderblade and do some runs against Fatalis to farm materials. His armor is godlike, so running two pieces of it is insane. I tried running a safe build with Divine Blessing but as much as I was surviving hits, my own hits didn't do much so I just made a new SAED build and beat him a few times.
4. If I had to give you weapons to use you, go for Raging Brach or Alatreon weapons and Armor. Alatreon resistance and element damage can't be underestimated while Brachydium is just insane.
5. Most of you aren't speedrunners, but for this hunt you have to be aggressive. You have 30 minutes. Don't waste them.
6. When you hit him with the Dragonator, just when you see him starting to stand up, I recommend getting ready to run, since if you do enough damabe including Dragonator damage he'll usually do his Hellfire and decimate the field.
7. Heavy Artillery. If you want to knock out the monster often, bring Heavy Artillery. The damage these do is insane, while also knocking the monster over in no time. You have cannons, ballista, roaming ballista, one shot binder and a Dragonator. Don't leave these cannons out there without shooting them, especially the free roaming ballista damage.
8. Some skills I recommend for surviving i would say you should get are: Health Boost, Divine Blessing, Fortify, Recovery Up, Fire Resistance, and you have to bring Health Augment. Plus Quick Sheath for his Hellfire. For DPS skills: Heavy Artillery, Fortify, Agitator, Peak Performance for non Safi builds, Crit Boost, Weakness Exploit, Resentment for Safi, and
Clutch Claw Boost for light weapons like Long Sword, LBG and etc.
9. Be ready at ALL POINTS to book it. If you see yourself doing insane damage, but the monster is standing up after being knocked over, don't keep attacking, I've carted alot from getting greedy while the monster was knocked over and got Hellfired to cart.
10. Not a way to kill him but just to remind you. The Monster is brutal, he does become Easy later. Don't hate yourself for having so much problems with him, alot of people are having issues with him but don't give up cause you are struggling. I know from experience that the fight feels impossible, do it with friends if it's too hard and get his armor then do it solo.
🐉 Happy Hunting! 🐉
This helped me alot!
Can't build armor yet don't know why do I need to kill him first
But I don't have friends to help me...
@@bigironfist626 Well
I just beat it earlier so I can help if you on ps4
@@juvielmartineztorres8425 yeah I'm on PS4 and I'd appreciate the help. What's your gamer tag?
Peppo going ham!
Im also waiting for your Fatalis bro. Keep up the spirit.
DG MA MANNNNN
hey there 🦀
I didn't know you watch their videos. I love this community so much! 💪😲💪 keep up the good work!
You know this monster is hard when TDS uploads a video on day 2 rather than day 1
Urite
@@fenexgid3074 urine
As always Peppo delivers such a majestic display of LS... He is literally the god of LS user. Of course, Mzly was also amazing. What an amazing run from this duo. Looking forward to more content.
Indeed he's the reason why I keep practicing to be come better at LS, he is an inspiration to me ...now that he have slain the god of monsters he is now Peppo god of LS 😅
@Kerry vans Konsol and real men are good on LS but him he is the god of ls
People be like “nerf longsword it’s too versatile” but how many people out there can actually use it this effectively? I’d wager not many, it took me 100 hours to get really good at longsword and i’m still improving
That missed helmbreaker.... I felt that
that's why I almost never use Helmbreaker, it's just not worth the risk!
@@deinonychus1948 Youre missing out on a lot of damage then. Thats the same as never using SAED or True Charge because they are slow and risky moves.
@@deinonychus1948 *Laughs in all the hammer combos*
Deinonychus194 Lol you need to get good at it, it’s a ton of damage know the right time and moment.
@@Valstrax_ I mainly focus on chaining spirit blade combos, foresight slashes and Iai slashes, better to avoid hits altogether than to use a move that lowers your power after use and has a pretty high chance of missing, heck I use the Iai Spirit Slash more as I can see where it'll hit and it allows you to avoid hits like the foresight slash albeit with a tighter window
Me before this video: “Watch, they’re going to have full Fatalis armor already”
Me after the video: “Yup”
I finished my set yesterday as well~ do u play pc? I could help u out if u need
@@cz_Angel help me out uwu
@@cz_Angel im on pc
@@EvolveGamerGames Cries in only having solo
@@mehdiouabas9587 Did 19 successful solo runs so far while having zero multiplayer runs.
man, really puts fatalis health pool into perspective. two expert players, putting out basically top dps, still takes over 10 mins to kill. damn, I imagine a lot of people have failed because of the 30 min time limit.
Agreed. When streamers and pros struggle or take this much time; it is basically impossible for the ordinary player. I have been trying since launch but haven't managed to kill it yet. Most of the time team members cant stay alive and if they can stay alive, the DPS is too low and time runs out. By the time we got to third phase, we had only 10 minutes left. As far as I know, ,the boss has 50% hp remaining when the third phase begins. :-(
Yeah but wasnt arch tempered xeno jiva like 15 min with a high heal pool and everything 1 shot you unless i hh base boosted the f out of people, at least this fight is forgiving
@@devxved Yeah but this is just a regular Fatalis. Just imagine what a tempered or arch tempered Fatalis would be like... O_O Probably 170,000 HP for solo with 20 minutes time limit. Lol
Asim Mehmood try to go solo,I managed to do it in 29min and 20 seconds,almost lost 😂
@@asimmehmood8868 dragonator deals 10% so only 40% for the 3rd phase. That's not much more than a third. 30 * 0.4 = 12 mins. Ten minutes left is pretty close.
I was expecting a, "after you've killed 1 Fatalis" video
I would love to see you fighting Fatalis with non Fatalis set, just consider it as a guide for those who haven't beaten it yet 😔
(Edit) : Guys, i did it. Thank you for all of those who replied and gave advice :)
yes this I agree. The clearly grinded him a lot to get what they have. I've fough him so much. Gotten him to stage 3. Nothing.
I fucking beat it with lance. Straight up not a fun time but honestly just keep chipping at him. This is the most fair monster capcom has made and honestly all of my deaths are mistakes that I could’ve easily avoided if I wasn’t an unga bunga. You guys got this.
Ikr
Fr
I beat it with swaxe and part breaker for the head. Keep ZSDing the head each time it does either flame cone or wide flame sweep.
Where's devil'jho when you need him.
He's out, this music is for Devil JIN!
Probably hiding somewhere along with other Elders...or maybe even he's not hungry enough to attack a Fatalis.
He’s not coming close to that thing
@@shyplox Savage might lol
Billy Siravo Savage would definitely try Fatalis, lol
"I use the Fatalis Weapon to destroy the Fatalis."
I used the stones to destroy the stones
☺️☺️☺️☺️
the fatalis armor: "You will become me Hunter." -Fatalis
This just shows how strong fatalis is. Even with temporal mantle it catches them off guard, sure they did so much better than a lot of people. But this also shows that Fatalis is such a wall to climb and overcome even the best have room to improve.
But didnt this fight come out yest... nevermind
Don't worry i was the same until i found out time zone Xd
Almost makes you want to just give up playing video games entirely when there are professionals showing you have no business interfering with their revenue stream, hm?
Ah so this is how you conquer Fatalis, by harnessing the power of anime
Anime conquers all, you get infinite power and plot armor
The power of gods and anime
Tds after 7 days: "when you killed 1000 fatalis"
fr tho
I was fighting with a Guy last night and we killed him 5 times... I looked at his huntercard and he was already killing 152 Fatalis ... They have to much time i swear :o
Steffen Volland 152 for what, I killed him a couple of times, made all his gear excluding the weapons that I dont use and got bored, I have no idea how they keep on hunting, its like I had my fun now it is kinda boring so I quit the game
@@incompletex lol no lifers at ther finest XD
0:07 That Palico in the beginning had enough of this XD
3:58 Omg i just see two mini Fatalis bongo-bongo, and I am just like, they are praising their father.
I’ve been waiting for this
R E L E N T
Did you see that shinji?
How to do an imperfect Fatalis hunt, perfectly. Thanks for this, i
i feel i learned a lot of LS mechs just from this. I haven't beaten Fatalis, but this demonstration gives me hope
Poor fatalis, he barely shows up and TDS is already bullying him
I feel like Schrade's Demise is probably the most fair giant one-shot attack
is that the actual name of the move
It's the most widely accepted name for the move because as far as I know, it doesn't have an official name.
I'm not a huge fan of it so far. If you're too far away from cover when he starts it you might not make it no matter what you do, and if you do make it it usually wastes a whole max potion to heal from. You kind of just have to get lucky with your positioning, and you still take a ton of completely unavoidable damage. Maybe I'm just a bit salty because I had a run earlier where one teammate closed the barricade before anybody else could get there which got the rest of us carted and failed the quest.
@@IndianaJones84476352 yes probably you are... the move is fine, you should position yourself better, that's they key of the fight, if you don't do it's rightfully gg
Indiana Jones a good way to avoid that situation is to farcaster if it’s necessary wth that move.
Im expecting "After you've killed 100/1000 fatalis" soon
“After you’ve killed 7 fatalis”
They finally did it!
when Fatalis meet the real god of destruction
もう完璧に武士。
実装2日目でほとんどの攻撃見破るってエグいな
everyone has a nightmare of their own
Hunter: Fatalis
Fatalis: Team Darkside
Fatalis: Prepare to die hunters.
Team Darkside: “This is for my fellow hunters”.
💪🏼👌🏼
EVERYTHING is OP in the hands of TDS.
Fatalis gear is really good though, pretty much BiS
Right! They made the whetfish OP
Darkside: fatalis weapons are op
Me and more than half of players: I’ll never be able to get it anyway
I guess its a good thing that its out forever then 😀
Get the armor first, its way better and also get only beta, the slots are incredible
Plunderblade and heavy artillery is your friend
Gamer 4 Life while I would like to believe that I have seen at least with alatreon a one year timer since it’s release yet strangely enough in the event schedule now post fatalis it’s marked as --- fatalis is currently the same but it’s weird I feel like next year they will just refresh it maybe until online shuts down
@@chillshawty9544 actually some alpha pieces are really good and used in meta sets, so get both lmao
The real mvps here were the two palicos dancing and cheering in the middle of all the carnage and fire while dressed as baby Fatalises XD
Jesus christ. Peppo and Mzly are the gods of LS. Truly, they are an incredible tag-team.
0:00 *Boss Music Starts*
Fatalis: Nani??!
TDS: *Omae wa mo shindeiru*
Still crazy how much hp he has, it's like almost 200k in 4 man, and like 100 and something thousand in 2 man. This is a monster that can take a lot of abuse from you guys, and honestly I feel like this is the best fight in mhw hands down to me. It's hard, challenging, and rewarding when you finally slay this living piece of history
Me to fatalis: “come, show me what passes for furry amongst your misbegotten kind”
Karts almost immediately
Monster Hunter gone wrong.
0:07 Instant Transmission.
0:42 Shooting star
3:49 Nope! 4:26 Nope!
8:25 Nope! Nope! Nope! Nope!
11:40 Yahoooo! Its a Mee! Ya! Wohoo!!
TIKI TIKI!
MHW Iceborne LS is actually OP*
MHGU Valor Longsword would like a word with you.
I was that one guy in MHFU that never did Fatalis unless asked to join in a group. But this time I might do the quest just for the fun and nostalgia.
It's possible to survive the super attack if you have moxxi/guts and heal enough to be above the threshold when the big hit kicks in. Also, If you're quick enough you can use 3 roaming ballistae.
I've actually won multiple victories against Fatalis in the last 5 minutes with the third roaming ballista barrage.
But it is tricky and trying to get it can actually cost you an entire run.
Hey i want to ask, what layered armor head do you use? I cant find it
The title should be "Peppo and Mzly is actually OP"
PSA: Bring Heavy Artillery 2 if you are struggling, 2 roaming ballistae on the head does a great chunk of progress for a break, making the hunt much easier in phase 3
I love how the characters walk into the map like like lvl. 99 mafia bosses just to proceed getting magnificently turned to fucking ashes in 99% of quests worldwide
*hears Tekken Cathedral music* Ah yes. Another being of culture I see
I’ma miss these gorgeous high res graphics and frames when Rise comes around. But i’ll be playing on the toilet, so there’s that.
LOL
Can someone help me with the name of the song they used? In the description they say its from Tekken, I want to know which one specifically.
A week later. "Fatalis but with no armor" 🤣
Fatalis no armor
Fatalis normal shots only
Fatalis “let me do these challenges to remind people that they are trash and I’m an elitist”
@@Cyther0 elitist is not the word to use very skilled is better
@@Cyther0 no armor would have to be also be a no hit run given how it already deals significant damage to end game armor.
I mean the only hard part is timing his flame mechanic ahead of time. Otherwise he's just as easy as any other monster if not easier being in a small area
@@Cyther0 lol no need to be mad and call someone an elitist for playing the way they want to play just because you can't beat him.
now this i like, it shows just how difficult fatalis is, and how trying to speedrun fatalis is going to hurt, as it should be its fatalis, good luck making this look easy without getting hit, AND without longsword, though i will say this, i'm impressed, less then if you didn't take fatalis equipment but still impressed, i wish everyone the best of luck with fatalis, as its a brutal but fair and fun fight
5:56 You can feel how old fatalis is from this set of fireballs and how it takes it a long time to charge.
God now I feel bad...
Aaand dragonball logic: the longer you charge and scream the more powerful it is. So.. fatalis knows what hes doing
Well he might be pretty young.. because the original black dragon is white fatalis
@@ZAH33D You're now just taking him out since his pension has run out after several years of him just chilling after taking out some ancient civilization.
@@AngelosRitter That's probably why he has a huge jaw and short tongue to optimize all the screaming.
Everytime I think I’m doing well, I watch one of these videos and realize I’m still a newb. You guys are amazing. Love the videos.
OMG watching the god of LS missed helm breaker and having some trouble with Fatalis
Scares me to try to use LS on him, all this time I been swag axe him to death.
Not gonna lie. My most favorite video of all time, including how intense peppo and his team player smashing fatalis like is there last dragon to defeat. 💖 shout out to DARKSIDE, much love from New Zealand!!!
The worst thing about this is that you kill it before you can use the dragonator to get the OG Proof of a Hero playing
oh boi cant wait for the arch tempered version to come out
Oh fuk
Honestly, I'm not even surprised they're already beating the final boss senseless 24 hours after its release
0:01 What a great couples, I give you credit about that XD.
Nice Friend you got there mate..
Fatalis is so difficult that it actually landed a hit on Peppo
I'm wondering something: why didn't Fatalis use the attack where be breathes fire on the ground like Teostra/Kulve? Or did he and I missed it?
He does
Longsword mains taunting everyone with their magic I-frames while everyone else has to actually wait for good openings lol
The Ls is really broken in world , i hope they fix that in rise :p
@@videoforhobbie7588 I wouldn't bet on that
Laughs in SnS backdodge
@@videoforhobbie7588 always has been
IG players be like:every attack is an opening.
What menu settings option is that that allows you to see your character through the monster just as a gray outline?
Maybe Castle Schrade wouldn't have fallen if they had TDS there that night.
Whats a Peppo and where can i buy it?!? Because fatalis is giving me a headache. Seriously though really awesome fight!! I'm reaching phase 3 faster when playing duo or solo. With 4 randoms its a nightmare.
See how TDS already has the full Fatalis set?
Just what i excpected lmfaoo
I have the full set aswell c: plus two weapons GS and LBG and I love it. We cursed and bashed our heads against a brick wall until the brick wall gave in and we succeeded.
@@theblackbaron4119 Same here just a slighty difference there'a no "we" in my case...I'm lonely 😭🤣🤣
@@theblackbaron4119 wow congrats man how many time did you beat fatalis?
Okay, i see the skills at the end of the vid but what dekos do i have to use (like attack/tool specialist+4)
Last boss to include in this harder DLC...
Team Darkside: EASY!!!
Doubt its easy with: full concetration, max dps, duo, 2 palicos, and still over 10 minutes for peppo
Fatalis will never be easy they just sat inside for the past 2 days sweating their asses off to hunt him, If i could do that (which i can't bcoz of job n shit) i'd master his hunt pretty quick too
@@chillshawty9544 I doubt they put as much time as you're imagining into this fight. They're just generally some of the best hunters in the community. Always have been.
@@Hydraclone thats completely true, but i mean earning money with it, tgey for sure have way mire time for it
I forgot about that fatalis is already here,been busy with school lately.Nice run as always Tds senpai's
Just a matter of time for „Fatalis but with no armor“. Jesus...
That build is insane dude nice run
"Fear the wrath of the gods"
~Devil jin
6:57 the fight in a nutshell idk what capcom was thinking shitboxes, toppling him is a double edged sword pretty much they focused on killing its main weakness in the previous games to make this fight more frustrating rather then fun.
That instance is not an example of shitty hitboxes. He got bopped to the head with the knee.
3:50 peppo good after this, mad me depressed seeing it.
12:20 again
Does anybody knows the name of the background music?, I just can’t find it
OMG, the tekken music match so good with this fight 😍
Yeah
What’s the song?
@@danielm238 cathedral theme Tekken 5
Don't remenber the exact name
Fatalis:came out 2 days ago
Chris:its speedrunning time 😎😎
中々最強って日本語好き
Awesome Video!
But what was the build you were using?
remember when everyone was exited for Alatreon?
Bro wtf, i was hoping for the speedrun but this mdfk is so hard i can only respect this even after taking so long to publish.
TDS:dodging everything
Me:AHHH HELP HELP AHHHHHHHH
lmao
Well, they already have full fatalis armor. SO they have clearly been farming him a lot. Meaning they have probably memorized his move set. The more I have fought him the easier he becomes to doge. But damn when I get to that phase three. I may as well just lay down in the cart cause Im going to camp lmao
@@gamerp1g yeah I basically reach the 3rd phase everytime but I have trouble getting passed it
@@tang5816 Yeah it's definitely not easy the best advice I can give is to just stick by him at all times and hit his head or flinch shot him whenever you get the chance breaking the head even once will be a life saver.
Who tf dislike this video.. great run TDS, couldnt recognize Peppo without his oolong. Could hear him cursing with the helmbreaker misses too lol
I've tried him 43 times and gotten to the final phase, about to kill him around 9, and I haven't killed him yet, didn't watch the video to avoid spoilers but I'd like to say the fight is extremely well designed, I just wish they gave you 8 faints instead of 5.
Not even faints. I just wish I had a little more time.
If you die more than 5 times u would run out of time anyway.
Keep it up hunter, I'm in the same phase too, getting used to the moves now and confident in my next round with him, so close to the end now.
I also have around 2000 hours in the game ☹
@@oferlord7030 I've lost all 5 lives within 3 minutes of the fight with my team of people with 1000+ hours
I’m been waiting for this too. Great video !!!!!
日本人おるか〜！
At which rank can you use two mantels? I am at rank 14.
Honestly the fight isnt bad. Just need good teammates . I still may cart 1-2times from me being stunned or pinned to the ground
Wow i cant believe you can tank that much fatalis attack to get stunned, i never get stunned by Fatalis just getting One Shot by Fatalis Blue Flame:")
I suppose youre using Divine Blessing
@@Zacharie27 break his head before (or during) phase 3 and blue flame don't do as much dmg
Rama Muhammad Fauzan yup im using divine blessing. Can take like an extra physical hit. Fire aint much cos of the fire res i have and the rocksteady mantle but it can still hurt a lot
Kept us waiting, huh? All jokes aside, I'm glad you posted this Fatalis speedrun.
You know you are good when you single handedly demolish a black dragon with a sword make from its siblings
It looks sexy too
I'd like to see Peppo solo this dragon under 10 minutes now.
As always great content..
I can't even defeat it once. Need to improve a lot here.
You can't kill him under 10min, too big health pool and noone could deal that much damage
@@chillshawty9544 look at AngBata 11s video dawg, he did it in 7
@@chillshawty9544 Peppo be like "Hold my sub 9 run"
Omg i think that was imposible but you actualy did it. I enjoy youre video so much. Well done truely. Cheers to tds!!!
If team dark side needs 13 minutes then normal humans can just ignore this fight for the rest of their lives
I'm a normal human, and I've beaten Fatalis.
at 10:20 can u tell me how u didnt get staggered when he goes up for the flame attack? it always happens to me and i keep carting
He rolled and through it, i did sometimes but most of the time still got staggerdd xD
Sakai Yuji fuckin only Peppo bro, how do u even know he goes up for the attack 😭😭 y’all too good
the lil fatalis dancing on a drum is hilarious
The Muzak is awesome really psyched me up while watching the vid
This is my first time to see peppo missing spirit helm breaker, and failed to do a foresight (not in bloopers). Fatalis is crazy
As usual it's a masterclass to watch you two play !
Does the event quest Fatalis have more hp than the special assignment one?
No he doesn't, still only got 3 faints
Victory to Team Darkside