@@trueflood323i genuinely wonder what those people will be like when their older. They are gonna get a huge suprise when they enter the work space or real life and all they do is blame other people for things
I think that maybe the ult dmg or max dmg radius should be buffed if you have an empowered punch before activating it, that way you have either higher dmg at the max radius so its more effective against tanks or buff the radius so its more likely to actually hit someone.
They should just increase the maximum damage of the outer radius from 100 to 150, right now the damage is laughable on dps characters and healers. This or reverse the ult charge nerf.
@doodlebob6327 It was sarcastic. I'm a doom main I'm just playing but considering how the developers have been I wouldn't be surprised if one of the devs thought this
im a doom one trick too and when i say the hog buff is ridiculous, it is ridiculous lmfao zbra does try his hardest not to get hooked tho which is smart
i honestly liked the doom v hog matchup when hog was meta, cause even though he was strong af, you could bait his hook and cancel his vape. After many games i legit found it challenging fun. This hog is still weaker than the meta hog imo, its just a bit annoying that you cant cancel vape. The "rework" hog needed was literally just supports nerfs, since he still gets shut down by ana or zen.
while i agree the hog changes werent a rework. i wouldnt say he is the same character with the same weaknesses and better strengths. stuns dont matter as much on him now since Breather is a resource like matrix. his attack is more all rounded for more consistent damage even though its now impossible to one shot combo without the mine trap ana still bodies him. side note, remember when breather was an ability where you couldnt move when using it and did NOT give damage reduction when using it? trash ability xd
The thing with Hog is that he is strong IF AND ONLY IF, he plays the right maps AND the enemy team isn't running Ana. Hog's breather buff WOULD put him in the A tier, but the fact that the circumstances have to be exact for him to get value puts him in B tier for me. NOT TO MENTION, the Hog mirror mid fight is SOOOOO boring... Neither can push up until someone uses hook. Until that happens, you just stand there waiting for ult charge to farm. His Pig Pen is cool though
Ever since his rework hogs become a legitimate doom counter now, before, u just cancel his heal and pound him 😉, now you can’t do that anymore, and his hook is almost instadeath on doom
There are several ults that are deadly, in the game, that don't have much or any delay on activation. Why does Doomfist's? I'm not saying it needs to be instant, but the activation time(generous warning it provides) could be shortened and it would be a lot better. Might actually be able to use it for something other than an escape. D: When a Reaper has ult, you know not to get near him. When a Soldier has ult, you know you need to have cover. Why not, when DF has ult, you need to get away from him? JQ's is nearly instant, also a tank. Grav provides no escape. Ram. Even monkey. We know, they're more likely to nerf it than ever buff it. Maybe Zbar is at fault for that, providing them stats that indicate DF is fine. :)
You look at most tank ults, you have Hammond who has a warning, junkerqueen, sigma, and orisa(kinda?), d.va. I would argue most of the ults that don’t are really situational like hogs and or monkeys. Really the only exceptions are Zarya and reins which don’t do massive damage but rely on follow up by the team. I think doomfist ult does need a buff but as someone who always dreads being against a doom I am kinda glad, like it is so frustrating to play when he is really balanced.
wait what happened with the Ana at the beginning of the game? He just quit shooting the Ana and started freaking out about him being on controller? i dont get it
@@zbratoo Hello Mr. Bra, you actually can do analog movement like that on PC if you have an analog keyboard like the wooting or any clones of it such as the razer huntsman or steelseries apex keyboard. Analog keyboards are getting more and more popular now due to them giving you almost perfect and accurate inputs.
While it would probably cause even more bugs, what if Doom's punch was changed so only the first person he punches gets the full stun effect. Then it can be buffed up to a 1 second stun while any collateral hits only take 0.5 seconds or so. He'd be more consistent in getting eliminations but not quite as strong against full teams grouped together.
Ana was moving slowly. Keyboards can't do this since it's not a sensitive touch. Only controllers can do this.....expect anything before the N64 ps1 era
From my personal game experience, that Hog you played against was awful... no offense to him or anything. My Hog games have been cracked and almost unbeatable, especially on Doomfist. That Hog missed numerous hooking opportunities that would have messed you up quite a bit. Awesome dub as always though!
As a doom main I totally agree. They should buff the hell out of if somehow. Even more damage is OK because now it hardly kills anyone and you get punished a lot even if you manage to somehow hit. Not to mention how long it takes to land giving everyone enough time to run away to counter you. And the worst part is sometimes you hit the roof or an upper level of the place you want. It really needs a buff or a change. Doom overall needs a buff
analog sticks are just less precise for aiming than a mouse. movement however controllers do have more input on because keyboard movement is binary, there are keyboards that have analouge pressure sensitive keys (however hard you push W is how fast you move forward ) which is probably what the ana in this video is using.
Really? I can still aim pretty good with controller and my controller is like 4 years old. Might just be me then cuz i can still hit headshots even at low deadzone its just harder
That hanzo should have died. Its a shame, i swear doom is the most hated tank by the devs. Buff the damm ult, give him damn 100 armor, and no way a cass grenade should block your movements WHILE YOU'RE DOING THEM. Doom has too many counters, and is overall weak. Damm devs
Usually dive tanks are better especially on the 1st 2 points. When hog use to be able to hook people off high ground super consistent he was good on that map but now its too much high ground for him to contest
I love the brig complaining aboit the c9 on 2nd point as Zbar is trying to deal with like 3 mfs
I mean that’s overwatch in a nutshell. Something happens blame everyone that’s not yourself. Fun game but terrible community overall.
Tank at its peak always 3v1and team says you're not protecting lol
@@trueflood323i genuinely wonder what those people will be like when their older. They are gonna get a huge suprise when they enter the work space or real life and all they do is blame other people for things
This is exactly what playing tank in OW2 is like but it’s all your fault 😂
I think that maybe the ult dmg or max dmg radius should be buffed if you have an empowered punch before activating it, that way you have either higher dmg at the max radius so its more effective against tanks or buff the radius so its more likely to actually hit someone.
Also, make it to where the kill radius reaches the sky box
I like that but maybe also after you come out of your ult you get empowered punch, or have a way to make block empower your slam too
@@SlikRikxu already rt empowered punch after ult
@@SlikRikxbut ivlike the idea of buffing ur slam somehow maybe lile aojourn doing damage with ur knuckle shot buffs it or something
They should just increase the maximum damage of the outer radius from 100 to 150, right now the damage is laughable on dps characters and healers. This or reverse the ult charge nerf.
zbra never fails to fill me up
zbra never fails to satisfies me
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Hold up mf, run that by me again🤨
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Huh???
Easy there chief…
The fact that zbra won against new hog means doom nerf wasnt enough. This is proof punch should get put to a 6 sec cooldown next patch 😂 (sarcasm)
Terrible take
@doodlebob6327 It was sarcastic. I'm a doom main I'm just playing but considering how the developers have been I wouldn't be surprised if one of the devs thought this
Not even sure where the doomfist nerf came from
"Don't worry team, I got it", I need this kinda reassurance from my teammates
im a doom one trick too and when i say the hog buff is ridiculous, it is ridiculous lmfao zbra does try his hardest not to get hooked tho which is smart
Every patch feels like a big middle finger to us 😞
i honestly liked the doom v hog matchup when hog was meta, cause even though he was strong af, you could bait his hook and cancel his vape. After many games i legit found it challenging fun.
This hog is still weaker than the meta hog imo, its just a bit annoying that you cant cancel vape.
The "rework" hog needed was literally just supports nerfs, since he still gets shut down by ana or zen.
while i agree the hog changes werent a rework. i wouldnt say he is the same character with the same weaknesses and better strengths.
stuns dont matter as much on him now since Breather is a resource like matrix.
his attack is more all rounded for more consistent damage even though its now impossible to one shot combo without the mine trap
ana still bodies him.
side note, remember when breather was an ability where you couldnt move when using it and did NOT give damage reduction when using it? trash ability xd
He can one shot it's just much more difficult to do
ur bap was a funny lil fella i fw them
Zbra never fails to tingle my tip😊
Their tank had to be trolling at the end
I better see that 2nd round 3rd point fight on a montage
Newb question. What told you the Ana player was using a controller?
The slow walking movement she did is something that can only be done on joystick
The thing with Hog is that he is strong IF AND ONLY IF, he plays the right maps AND the enemy team isn't running Ana. Hog's breather buff WOULD put him in the A tier, but the fact that the circumstances have to be exact for him to get value puts him in B tier for me.
NOT TO MENTION, the Hog mirror mid fight is SOOOOO boring... Neither can push up until someone uses hook. Until that happens, you just stand there waiting for ult charge to farm. His Pig Pen is cool though
"That's not a rework 🤓"
Bro did NOT read the notes.
Wish they nerf anti-nade to reduce healing received to 50% instead of entirely eliminating healing
Would be way better but 50 might be too much healing, i know ana mains would complain
should get the sleepdart treatment imo, 50% healing will be a mess to communicate visually unless you already know it doesnt stop healing on tanks
@@rawhidelamp I couldnt give less of a shit if ana mains complain
Why not but only for tanks
makes me wanna go play doom an go 1 and 14
Ever since his rework hogs become a legitimate doom counter now, before, u just cancel his heal and pound him 😉, now you can’t do that anymore, and his hook is almost instadeath on doom
He isn’t necessarily buffed he just ran has the chance to not waste an ability and actually be more of a team tank while maintaining his hook combo
stream bro, i want to see u play
Most likely a analog keyboard like wooting
why that ana moves slow wtf
There are several ults that are deadly, in the game, that don't have much or any delay on activation. Why does Doomfist's? I'm not saying it needs to be instant, but the activation time(generous warning it provides) could be shortened and it would be a lot better. Might actually be able to use it for something other than an escape. D:
When a Reaper has ult, you know not to get near him. When a Soldier has ult, you know you need to have cover. Why not, when DF has ult, you need to get away from him? JQ's is nearly instant, also a tank. Grav provides no escape. Ram. Even monkey.
We know, they're more likely to nerf it than ever buff it. Maybe Zbar is at fault for that, providing them stats that indicate DF is fine. :)
then that indicates that the dev team doesnt know how to balance their own game
You look at most tank ults, you have Hammond who has a warning, junkerqueen, sigma, and orisa(kinda?), d.va. I would argue most of the ults that don’t are really situational like hogs and or monkeys. Really the only exceptions are Zarya and reins which don’t do massive damage but rely on follow up by the team. I think doomfist ult does need a buff but as someone who always dreads being against a doom I am kinda glad, like it is so frustrating to play when he is really balanced.
wait what happened with the Ana at the beginning of the game? He just quit shooting the Ana and started freaking out about him being on controller? i dont get it
The movement was something you can only do with a joystick
you can't slow strafe on PC because of the WASD movement keys. you can on controller because it's a joystick
@@zbratoo Hello Mr. Bra, you actually can do analog movement like that on PC if you have an analog keyboard like the wooting or any clones of it such as the razer huntsman or steelseries apex keyboard. Analog keyboards are getting more and more popular now due to them giving you almost perfect and accurate inputs.
@@zbratoomagnetic keyboards also can do that by setting a key to be analog instead of single actuation
This is also people's first time playing new hog
While it would probably cause even more bugs, what if Doom's punch was changed so only the first person he punches gets the full stun effect. Then it can be buffed up to a 1 second stun while any collateral hits only take 0.5 seconds or so. He'd be more consistent in getting eliminations but not quite as strong against full teams grouped together.
Everytime any other tank gets buffed it always puts doom and rein in a weird spot for soft buffs... this game drives me insane
I like zbra man
They just gave him a trap😂
2 c9s in a row was crazy
new hog is so good against doom
How did he know he was on controller?
Ana was moving slowly. Keyboards can't do this since it's not a sensitive touch. Only controllers can do this.....expect anything before the N64 ps1 era
doom and bastion competing for worst ult. which is funny consider they're both basically the same thing with doom just being worse.
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Hi ZBRA
duo with apply more i like him
tf is dooms damage/ult. Im still gonna play em anyways but damn he so weak.
From my personal game experience, that Hog you played against was awful... no offense to him or anything. My Hog games have been cracked and almost unbeatable, especially on Doomfist. That Hog missed numerous hooking opportunities that would have messed you up quite a bit. Awesome dub as always though!
Memes and jokes aside... doom's ult should not be in this game at all... jesus
bastion gets 3 doom ults
It should stun or atleast have a ball slam effect it’s so garbage
@@janikjhauj9263 yeah its literally a joke to the devs i only use it to escape to mega
As a doom main I totally agree. They should buff the hell out of if somehow. Even more damage is OK because now it hardly kills anyone and you get punished a lot even if you manage to somehow hit. Not to mention how long it takes to land giving everyone enough time to run away to counter you. And the worst part is sometimes you hit the roof or an upper level of the place you want. It really needs a buff or a change. Doom overall needs a buff
Prob how it should be, the one thing that for sure gets you out should not one shot most people.
Whats wrong with being on controller im an m3 doom main on controller on pc he aint bad
Don't know, let me know if you find out.
probably because you are putting yourself in a disadvantage and its unorthodox to play OW on pc with a controller. It's not necessarily bad
analog sticks are just less precise for aiming than a mouse. movement however controllers do have more input on because keyboard movement is binary, there are keyboards that have analouge pressure sensitive keys (however hard you push W is how fast you move forward ) which is probably what the ana in this video is using.
Really? I can still aim pretty good with controller and my controller is like 4 years old. Might just be me then cuz i can still hit headshots even at low deadzone its just harder
Overwatch is so out of whack right now. The fact that ana is better at CC and securing kills is crazy. I wish we could get dps doom back
That hanzo should have died. Its a shame, i swear doom is the most hated tank by the devs. Buff the damm ult, give him damn 100 armor, and no way a cass grenade should block your movements WHILE YOU'RE DOING THEM. Doom has too many counters, and is overall weak. Damm devs
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Early zbra enjoyer
Nerf doom ult it's to op
cyn was playing hog regardless
I have no right to ego anyone on Ana if that guy is on controller no excuse
Play Doom Sumo
Just wait till you get real hard with Anna and kir as supports and enjoy not playing
First time watching Zbra. He has quite a negative attitude.
If this is what you consider negative you should probably avoid watching overwatch content creators.
@@Moonmi747 U do not think it is negative? I do not get the same feeling with other content creators tbh.
Im pretty sure you can't play comp vs m&k players if you're on controller, but i might be wrong
You can connect controller to PC, you just don’t get aim assist
Buffed roadhog, kek, they made him worse
kinda cringe hog take, everything except hook and ult is different, and heal being on a meter changes the way he plays significantly.
true dabi sucks at doom
Clearly doom is still too strong.
Remove rocket punch and he should be balanced.
Yep definitely, not to mention that seismic slam and power block should be on a 15 seconds cooldown each.
how can u play this game for 7 years without knowing that Gib is a Hog map?
Usually dive tanks are better especially on the 1st 2 points. When hog use to be able to hook people off high ground super consistent he was good on that map but now its too much high ground for him to contest
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