The Coachwhip SxS Shotgun from Heritage Manufacturing | SHOT Show 2025
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- Heritage Manufacturing is upping the ante with the release of its new Coachwhip SxS Shotgun, joining its other classic-inspired side-by-side shotgun offerings. This classic side-by-side design merges old-school charm with modern reliability, making it a standout for range days, cowboy action shooting, pest control, sporting clays,, or home defense. Join @BallisticAviationas he gets all the details on the Coachwhip's handling, standout aesthetics, and overall performance to see if it truly lives up to its legendary name.
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Coach guns seem so simple and cheap to make but are never as such...
Double barrel shotguns are way more complicated and difficult to manufacture than you'd think.
@@krockpotbroccoli65 Then why are coach guns so much more money than Over/Unders?
@@InvidiousIgnoramus For the exact same reason; side-by-sides are more complicated than OUs and require more metal.
I have an OG double barrel shotgun with two triggers. It needed some love as old as it was. It worked flawlessly. I gifted my father an oG Lefever double barrel with two triggers. It means , if it was so difficult to make, how are the OG’s around? Dad’s passed this last year. It probably means the Lefever is coming back to me.
A single shot is under $200 . Explain how a double barrel cost more than $500
Finally a real side by side with hammers
Perfect for a Form 1 sawn-off. Here's something most people don't know, internal hammer/striker shotguns make bad sawn-offs because they need the weight of the barrels to cock the mechanism. You wind up having to pry 'em open. While external hammer SxS shotguns can be opened one handed in the classic MadMax manner.
Twenty years ago you could get a stoeger coachgun for 350. Brand new.
So the price has changed very little if you account for inflation. $350 in 2005 is equivalent to $566 today, which is just about what Stoeger has their coach guns MSRP set at on their website.
KyGunco had them this past black friday for $265
and these look the exact same quality! Made from the same materials and possibly the same place! They think we are idiots
@@chrisstandingbear1947 You can still find them all over for less that 500$ this is a joke
@Whyno_suckysucky I wanted one so bad. Just never got one. My brother in law has one and shoots skeet with it. Lots of fun and the quality seems decent for a cheap shotgun.
Really nice to see a plain hammerless double. I’m not paying $800 for a Turkish one, though.
I was so excited until the price
If you think that's bad for a double shotgun, you'd best not look up what new double rifles cost! Getting anything with two barrels to have a consistent point of impact from both barrels is quite a feat.
@@seth094978Still doesn't justify it costing as much or more than a nice semi auto.
if you are is the U.S.A. Biden/Kamala watered down the dollar so much it takes more dollars to do anything you have ever used to do before … easy counteraction is to make more money 💋🇺🇸🍻
These are probably made targeting the cowboy action comp shooters. They spend big money on their setups because you are interacting with the firearm a lot more than typical 3 gun setups.
How are these more expensive than the Beretta A300, and double the cost of a Mossberg pump??
You could get a slightly used DDR made Buhag Suhl S-by-S 12/70 with double triggers adn beautiful finish less than a 100$/€. I have one of those and it's gonna be my "gentleman shotgun". SuperNova will be my "dailydriver"/home defense shotgun.
Because two barrels means two points of impact; they have to be turned and aligned such that for whatever distance their optimized for, they have the same point of impact.
they want to scam us not happening!
@PhycoKrusk a single shot is $200 about. Putting two mechanisms side by side shouldn't equate to $500 +
@@speakerroach4015 It is not about mechanics which are about the same than just single barrel break action.
Like that other guy told it is all about trying to get those two barrels aligned and actually have close as possible point of impact.
It is not that you take two pipes and weld them together on straight table. Yes you can do that but
dont be angry when patterns have differend post codes. Yeah it may not matter much at 10 yards with birdshot
but manufacturer with some selfrespect is not gonna risk their reputation by releasing such shotgun.
British farmers would love these, they would have never seen anything so modern.
They commonly have integrally suppressed shotguns, that are very modern.
@@atomicsmith Was a joke.
Great, another Turkish import. Can we not have one quality SxS made in America?!
You don’t want to pay American SxS prices if you’re complaining about this gun. You will pay $2,000 or more for American labor.
@@yeedbottomtext7563that’s fine with me. I don’t want crap from turkey
@@yeedbottomtext7563itd be worth it, considering it would actually work. As opposed to turkish junk.
Connecticut shotguns is american made. 🤷♂ AH Fox, Parker, etc.
The price honestly hurts, they are probably great shotguns and do look well made but heritage, like their single action revolvers should be on the more affordable end, which these do not seem to be.
Does it take Glock mags?
Now that’s funny.
No. These shotguns don't have magazines.
@@Cheka__whoosh
No, but I bet your wife does.
But you can shoot Glock mags with it!
cheap materials for HIGH PRICES! Thanks Heritage! wtf
Like that Coach Whip. Looks perfect for CAS
I'd love a double barreled ten gauge to make a super shotgun replica
Box of shells costs more than the gun.
They make it in 12g and it'll take 3" magnums. Firing both barrels with mag slugs is plenty enough punishment for most people. Plus, if your doing a Super Shotgun you'll want to Form 1 it as an SBS. Here's a little know tip on sawn-off SxS shotguns. Common striker fired shotguns (like the Badlander or Stoegers) use the weight of the 18"+ barrels to cock the mechanism, so once they're cut short you wind up having to pry 'em open. If you use a SxS hammer gun like the Coachwhip here, then you'll be able to open it one handed like MadMax or Doomguy (then you just palm cock both hammers at once after inserting new shells).
@ thanks for the advice. Gotta find me a sxs now
Heritage execs: The cheap 22 revolvers sell like 🅱️razy! Lets make a booko bucks SXS to try and market to the same cheap sobs that buy these little revolvers. WHY???? I’m not paying that to then form 1 and spend more
I might be part of a very small market but I would love to have a exposed hammer sxs with full or extra full choke for turkeys
@@KingAmish And 28" barrels. They offer the box lock one in hunting configuration but not the much nicer exposed hammer model. I'd like it rem choke threaded too.
@@krockpotbroccoli65 id almost prefer it just be choked down from factory instead of having to change out chokes just for looks
I like the one with hammers
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Love my Badlander, that Coach Whip is next on my shopping list!!!
Almost had me. No choke takes 90% of the use of the gun. Nothing more than home defense ranges or slugs. No SASS competition. No skeet. No bird hunting. No small game hunting. Bummer.
These are just imported through the same Brazilian factory stoeger gets theirs from aren't they
BINGO!
They’re hoping nobody noticed
Just so long as they are not manufactured by our "frenemy" Turkey.
Nope, Turkish made.
@homie3star I'm honestly unsure if that's better or worse
I was all in until he started saying prices.....
Huglu has offered a coachgun nearly exactly like this for the past 10 years
Now that's slick. Not a bad price for how handsome that case-hardened model is.
I want a 20ga hammer fired double barrel but holy funk, I'm not paying $800otd prices for it.
Goddamn that's gorgeous.
For the sporting model it would be cool to see a vent rib
I heard Turkish walnut, so are these just Turkish imports?
Yup
Yep looks exactly like the Stoeger Uplander, so you can expect the metal to not be hardened properly 😂
Yep...no reason in hell to pay this when you can find a US-made used Stevens 311 for $2-300.
@@brokenforks bullshit..Stoeger is owned by Benelli
@@chadhaire1711 Lmao there's a sucker born every minute.
Stoeger's budget stuff has been made in Turkey for years.
Mad Max Pistol!!!!!
I need one with ejectors
I’m so glad they went with the exposed hammers
Brother, you had me until the price. Anyone who spends more than $200 on a heritage needs to ask themselves what they’re doing with their money.
you drive a brz so that checks out
Just about every gun shop over here in England has at least couple of perfectly good 12g side by sides for around £100. My local one has a mint Baikal for 150, and those things are built like tanks. Even with shipping to the US and having the barrels chopped it would be 1/2 the price of one of those.
I was hoping they would make one design to be sawed
Extractor or ejector?
Extractor
I bought a Coachwhip about a month ago. Gorgeous, well built shotgun. Recommend it.
I have a Spanish 20ga dbl barrel with hammers, it's fun to shoot. On mine the barrel is choked down so small it looks like a 410ga...no slugs out of that for sure...
Make a “talon” grip 14in coach gun in 12ga
$800 for a basic side by side without chokes? $975 for thevone with chokes? ROFL! 😂😂😂
Seriously we need more affordable stage coach shotguns.
ya what we want is a 14.5 inch version without the stock
I'm pretty sure you guys don''t actually want a "really cheap side by side." Anyone who's ever handled one of the Century Arms JW-200s made by the Chinese tractor concern know how bad a really cheap side by side actually is. It's not trivial to make a double, and it's a much more involved process than, say, an 870 or 500. You've got twice the barrel-steel, for one. A cheap one can be done, but it's going to handle and point like a cinderblock and break either like a bench vise or a rattly 84 Monte Carlo's glove box. A hammer coach is not a gun of necessity for anyone, it's a toy - so if it ergonomically sucks, what's the point?
Amen to this
Have one . And the barrels are uneven 😂
I dont mean to call Stevens a shitty brand but I got some Stevens single barrel and side by side's that were purchased from the sears catalog in 1985 for $100 or $150 that are still perfectly solid today. Adjusted for inflation thats about $440. That's a perfectly reasonable price for a shotgun thatll last 40 years. It can be done.
@@jeffpraterJSF I have an old Stevens 311. It's a nice gun. Thing is even lower end manufacturers had gunsmiths working on the factory floors ensuring that junk didn't get out of the gate. Not so anymore. If your a gunsmith and apply at a gun factory these days you get laughed right out the door.
@@jeffpraterJSF The old 311s and Foxes were pretty solid doubles, but they were only able to be sold for that price because Stevens/Savage already had all the tooling paid off many times over and well established supply-chains for the kinds of parts and steels they needed and a full workforce of trained workers who had spent decades making them. If Mossberg or Remington or anyone else wanted to start making Fox doubles, they wouldn't be anywhere near $150. Hell, just look at all the trouble PSA is having getting just the old H&R Pardners up and running for a price we'll be willing to pay.
can you shoot 45LC. out of the 410? Does it have Riflings? And are you planning on doing it?
If it's a shotgun, the barrels are not rifled, and .45 Colt will _not_ fit into a .410 chamber as it is a couple hundredths of an inch too large.
@@PhycoKrusk There are definitely guns that can take both .45 colt and .410 shot shells. The base diameters differ by only .010 and .410 won't care if the bore is the .447 required for the .45 colt.
@ I didn't say there weren't guns that do this, as there obviously are. However, they are all chambered for .45 Colt, which is too large to fit into a .410 chamber.
@@PhycoKrusk But it would be way cool if they are also rifled .
@@pabloenriquechavesmonsalve4786 Sure, but I don't want a double rifle, at least not in .45 Colt.
A reproduction 1897 trench gun would be cool
The Coachwhip is the same gun as the CZ Hammer Coach besides the synthetic buttplate and maybe a slightly lesser grade walnut on the stocks.
I was interested until he started talking price.
I want a side by side 8 gauge with 40” barrels
Are these USA made or Turkish?
At these prices they are crazy......never buy one
Really cool $400 guns
Wish tbey would make that in 10 gauge
Finally we can get back to making real sawed-off shotties again.
Half a million executive orders and the ATF still exists.
When did we stop???😂😂😂
Is there an exposed-hammer double-barrel, anywhere on earth, that has nothing to do with Turkey?
I'm pretty sure the Italians still make them like that.
Yes but you cant afford one
are the ones CZ sells Turkish?
@@snakeeyes941 .... I think the CZs have "turkish walnut" stocks.
No ejectors, no sale for me.
Over-Under > SxS
Should be half the price lol just more junk turkish imports.
For that price, I'd rather save up a couple Gs and get something high quality
I understand the engineering difficulties of a double barrel shotty, esp sxs. But the fact that the majority of the market blatantly rips off the customer is obscene. I would maybe pay 700 dollars if this was made in America with the hammers, but just shy of 1000 leaves a lot to be desired. Just go make specialty boutiques if you want to, but don’t exaggerate the quality of these firearms to justify a profitable price.
EJECTORS. For the love of god, make one with actual EJECTORS.
Can't have auto ejectors for alot of cowboy action shooting
you got hands use em ! ! ! ! !
@@NOOBKIAtv yea we have hands, to make guns have ejectors.
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what you think Mr? is this a scam? is the MSRP really worth it?
You’re a big Trump guy right? Riddle me this, why’s the ATF still exist? Seems like the only gun related action we got from this guy was banning bump stocks.
@@Matt-xc6sp About week in office and already done quite lot for very serious internal and external issues in country scale.
ATF is very likely still not fully going to anywhere but i would expect some things to get better in future.
@@Matt-xc6sp Alcohol? Tobacco? I do think changes are coming, but will take time!
New guy is killing it!
Way better than the turds at Classic Firearms.
Hate to be the guy but no 16 wtf
Manual safeties on external hammer break action guns? Heresy, totally ruins them.
Unfortunately they have to cater to imbeciles with unnecessary safety features.
a coach gun more expensive than a Mossberg 500 will never make sense to ne
Two barrels, two trigger mechanisms and need to regulate where the barrels hit
That's a fun toy for the range or CAS, not a tacticool self defense gun. There can be different tools for different purposes.
Economies of scale . . . this is a niche product, Mossberg churns out 500s by the million
Read up on it
Way Over Priced !!! No Thank’s
So, I'm thrilled with these; but do yourself a favor and don't show up at a sporting class match with one.😅
Ridiculous. It is a snake. It was tool, a literal whip. And when riding shot gun on the coach wagon. A scater gun was a good choice due to the bumpy nature of the trail.
Ahhhh, winding down SHOT with Fudd guns.
Another hammer gun with a safety. More Turkish economic stimulus.
I bought the Heritage Coachwhip when it first came out. They need to change the name to Heritage Cowchip. The lever that opens the action broke after shooting 1 box of birdshot through it. I sent it back to Heritage/Taurus for repairs back in mid December and crickets. No response yet on when I'll get it back. Very disappointing.
Are these made by Pietta?
They would be made by Taurus.
Taurus company! might be contracted out of Turkey like alot of the other Turkish walnut double barrels
Too much money for too little product, and that product is NOT Top Flight, but 'Yeoman Grades'.
So TIRED of the useless HYPE from average Mfgrs.
Biden's choice
Arent you not suppose to dryfire hammerless doublebarrels ?
🫶🤙🇺🇸
Heritage though right? How is Heritage gonna charge that much for simple coach gun technology. Maybe if that particular product line of theirs had been around long enough to be deemed reliable and earned their stripes, but that's not the case. Half that and see how it goes
Way too overpriced
I am
Will probably buy one of these this year
buy a stoeger or cz instead exact same gun already out and you might find a deal somewhere! if your looking for hamers and blued
Absolutely braindead move. Heritage should have played into the dirt cheap reliable plinker motif instead of pushing garbage Turkish SXSs at an exorbitant MSRP.
Laughed and stopped watching when he said the prices👎🏼😂
Give me an exposed hammer double with long, choked barrels.
That's what she said...
for 500$ or less
@@NOOBKIAtv I wouldn't hold my breath for that pricing. I think right around a grand for a good quality sxs is pretty reasonable, but an 18" coach gun is pretty damn useless for hunting.
gorgeous shotguns, but the price is way too high for something this simple. hard pass.
I'll drop a grand on a new AMERICAN made S&W sans the stupid left side key lock ignition revolver rather than a grand on a Turk production Sh*tgun...
Junk
Lol, anyone else notice the hammer alignment......lol. imported junk
Price is the big turn off for me.
Why the hell no 16ga
Extractor or ejector?
Extractor