Building a Tiny Productivity and Gaming PC

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  • @Jayguevara1982
    @Jayguevara1982 Місяць тому +47

    That is a crazy sleek case if I ever saw one.

    • @2Kaleb
      @2Kaleb Місяць тому +7

      The Dan A4-H20 is perfection ❤

    • @N7CmderShepard
      @N7CmderShepard Місяць тому

      It really is, I just wish it had a nicer power button.

    • @the12gaugeshotty
      @the12gaugeshotty Місяць тому +1

      It definitely is. I just moved to it a month ago. SFF is the way to go!

    • @the12gaugeshotty
      @the12gaugeshotty Місяць тому

      @@N7CmderShepard power button seems fine to me. You press it to turn it on, simple switch and it's small and convenient spot. I really like the simple front IO as well. Single USB A and USB C ports and audio out + mic (even though I use a Schiit Magni Unity for my audio).

  • @itsKEVO
    @itsKEVO Місяць тому +2

    ❤love watching itx builds!! And I love your builds! I’ve been two of your suggested builds and now I’m building an nr200p max

  • @ChipoltleXD
    @ChipoltleXD Місяць тому +1

    Recently finished a a4-h20 build a few months ago. Its so nice and surprisingly easy to work in for how dense it is.

  • @richardfarmer6570
    @richardfarmer6570 Місяць тому +7

    Nice build, small and powerful. I was really surprised you hadn't done a build in the A4-H20 before.

  • @Renegade_Rabryn
    @Renegade_Rabryn Місяць тому +5

    Another awesome build video.

  • @light.8430
    @light.8430 Місяць тому +14

    Transferred my build from the H2O to the FormD T1 a few weeks ago, I also used an Atmos and getting cables to fit in the T1 was a struggle. That difference in 1 liter between H2O and T1 is insane and, and build in the H2O was much easier, and didn't need to swap out Atmos fans either like in the T1. The T1 experience and build quality is absolutely fantastic but it was $230 shipped to the US, but the H2O is $60 cheaper, more available and a little easier to build in, especially for a first time.

    • @emiya_muljomdaoo
      @emiya_muljomdaoo Місяць тому +1

      thanks im buildling for the first time and this reply help me make decision. im going with h2o

    • @Dawelio
      @Dawelio Місяць тому +1

      The FormD T1 is an much more premium and niche case/product. Lian Li is an well established case manufacturer by now, hence they have the resources to make the H20 in an much higher quantity and hence being able to keep the prices down. As well as having an much larger international shipping network. Although in terms of quality, the H20 is no where close to the T1.

    • @light.8430
      @light.8430 Місяць тому +1

      @@Dawelio Yes, it is absolutely more premium, and was worth the upgrade to me, and the building experience was amazing, Ikea style case!

    • @Dawelio
      @Dawelio Місяць тому +1

      @@light.8430 Absolutely agree. Meanwhile nothing wrong with the H20 by any means. The quality etc of the T1 is just on a whole other level. It's difficult to explain it, it's simply something you need to actually experience in order to really appreciate it.

  • @MrMoeJo
    @MrMoeJo Місяць тому

    As always, your PC building insights are incredibly valuable! This video on the custom build sparked an idea for my own dual-PC setup - one for gaming and another dedicated to streaming. With that in mind, I'd tweak this build for a super streaming rig by swapping the CPU to a Ryzen 7 8700X3D and opting for an RTX 4060 8GB GPU.
    Thanks again for all your content! I constantly revisit your videos for inspiration on future builds.

  • @phizix5023
    @phizix5023 Місяць тому +2

    I love this case. Using one for a build in my bedroom for 4k 60FPS with a 5800x3D and 7900 XT for a while now. Fits perfectly on my tv stand.

    • @taariq5324
      @taariq5324 15 днів тому

      I also have a build in my bedroom using this case

  • @polymathart
    @polymathart Місяць тому +11

    A small, powerful gaming PC combined with a graphics tablet like a Cintiq or a Huion Kamvas Pro would be the dream.

  • @phoenics2465
    @phoenics2465 Місяць тому +3

    This is what i needed

  • @andresbrand9221
    @andresbrand9221 Місяць тому

    Awesome video. I love the case

  • @pakxenon
    @pakxenon Місяць тому

    For my A4-H2O, I threw on some fan grills and shoved all the AIO wiring into the top rear cavity with the pump wiring going behind and down to the bottom right. The power extension would go on the motherboard side to clean up the GPU side for maximum clearance.

  • @coleh1815
    @coleh1815 Місяць тому +1

    Love the Videos! I would love to see you do a build using the Custom_mod Case SLM1 3.9L really curious about how it does thermally with less room for the cooler. Keep up the awesome work, crazy quality content!

  • @JFlogerzi
    @JFlogerzi Місяць тому

    This is my next case! Its perfect.

  • @IronOre33
    @IronOre33 Місяць тому +3

    That tiny pc is more powerful than my full sized pc, my full size pc isn’t even weak, its very powerful 💀

  • @faridhronianto
    @faridhronianto Місяць тому

    damn watch this video on my saturday night is awesome. thanks

  • @kroganbaby6163
    @kroganbaby6163 Місяць тому

    I'll say it again, your cable management is god like!

  • @robertlucke4964
    @robertlucke4964 Місяць тому

    Nice build

  • @Mag844
    @Mag844 Місяць тому

    There's also the Z690i Meg Unify rocking 3 M.2 slots and Thunderbolt 4 which is a board that i don't see often and currently own.

  • @NguyenTruong-ko5cl
    @NguyenTruong-ko5cl Місяць тому

    the temperature is wild!

  • @dhofari9009
    @dhofari9009 Місяць тому

    This pc is clean AF

  • @soup_bone
    @soup_bone 28 днів тому

    clean!

  • @fairycat
    @fairycat Місяць тому

    That 5000T case was super cool. It would be interesting to see Corsair’s mini chase.

  • @nayanpitlam5621
    @nayanpitlam5621 Місяць тому

    Keep trying new cases
    Really well made videos mate!

  • @biernutt9168
    @biernutt9168 Місяць тому

    So I made a build in this case using the same AIO, PSU and 4080 FE but went with a Strix 650E-I and 7800X3D. I feel like a few things were omitted in the video. The cable management of the ARGB splitter with the 2 fans and pump block plugged in is a bit of a pain. On the 650E-I all the fan and ARGB headers are on the top just under the rear AIO fan. I ended up routing all fan cables to the back tucking the fan splitter in the gap between the rear AIO fan and case and laying the ARGB splitter cable on top of the 4080 FE. Also you didn't mention but can see in the video you added 120mm grills on the AIO fans. The included cables with the SF750 are mostly fine but be aware the CPU cable is just long enough to reach and using the PCIE cables with the 3 way splitter included with the 4080FE was a non-starter. It's just too crowded and the connector sticks up too far to get the bottom case plate screwed down without an extreme bend in the cable. I ended up having to use a custom right angle cable. Great looking compact build but tight AF in this case. Would have loved to see details of your cable mgmt.

  • @calmdownsleepytime
    @calmdownsleepytime Місяць тому +1

    Love these SFF builds. Fantastic job!

  • @grantbrazil8780
    @grantbrazil8780 Місяць тому

    Almost my exact build!! I went with a lot of these components thanks to your videos.
    Looks great, and well done on the cable management.
    What temps are you getting during gaming? my 4080s can get up to 75C during gaming, which seems a little high.

  • @lalosangron
    @lalosangron Місяць тому

    That mobo is just what I need for.my storage needs, I hope I can find a reasonable priced 4080s to try and recreate it

  • @classicaudioadventures
    @classicaudioadventures Місяць тому +2

    I went with the A4-H2O for my first SFF build and was surprised by how easy it was to work with. I was initially concerned that the gap between my 4090 and the PSU would be too small for sufficient airflow, but the cooler apparently doesn't struggle.

    • @the12gaugeshotty
      @the12gaugeshotty Місяць тому

      Probably because it has direct access to cooler air through the side panel.

  • @ZarkinDrife
    @ZarkinDrife Місяць тому +1

    I just wish the cooler master 240 atmos white was available in Australia. Would love to use it if I get that iqunix zx-1 case

  • @515PPF
    @515PPF Місяць тому

    Nice build. I love building SFF systems. Suggestion when demonstrating noise levels at 8:08 it would help to mute the background audio.

  • @dawsonpoe
    @dawsonpoe Місяць тому +3

    Hey Devyn, have you built or plan on building in a Mechanic Master case? Personally I’d reccomend either the C26 or C28.

  • @TheOneCleanHippy
    @TheOneCleanHippy Місяць тому +1

    Would have liked to see the thermals and performance at the end.

  • @impyr3x293
    @impyr3x293 Місяць тому

    pls do a follow up video with temp-loads and stuff, considerung the get this full build, so slick!

  • @sm8081
    @sm8081 Місяць тому +1

    This case doen not need rgb stuff. Video production quality is at top level. But I’d like to see temps under load (especially nvme’s temps) and undervolting, if needed.

  • @csabavass9479
    @csabavass9479 Місяць тому

    Awesome build, but can we see some benchmarks and especially thermal readings during full load with Blender, Premiere and gaming?

  • @dequzzled
    @dequzzled Місяць тому

    he finally uploads 👏

  • @dario4496
    @dario4496 Місяць тому

    I built in this lian li case. I went as overkill as possible and put in the msi ventus 4090 and i9 13900ks, Its loosing about 7% of performance thanks to itx formfactor against a 13900k in a large atx. I am planing to switching the cpu when new ryzen releases but so far the custom watercool loop is cooling it decently.

  • @williamong3692
    @williamong3692 Місяць тому +1

    You should try the minisforum A990i! It has a laptop i9 processor and 4(!!!) m.2 slots for an itx motherboard (amd has a ryzen 9 too in bd790i but just 2 m.2 slots)

  • @Lowsky__
    @Lowsky__ Місяць тому +12

    what is that FPS overlay at 1:05 ? ive been tryna find a simple one like it for so long

  • @sam-ut1nh
    @sam-ut1nh Місяць тому

    it's gonna take me some months to afford to build this, but I'm looking forward to it

  • @justeddm
    @justeddm Місяць тому

    Hope you make a video on Dan a3 matx.. since it's my perfect size case

  • @Trippze
    @Trippze Місяць тому +29

    why dont you show temperatures when running?

    • @pilotr498
      @pilotr498 Місяць тому +2

      He does?

    • @the12gaugeshotty
      @the12gaugeshotty Місяць тому +3

      Because it runs hot. Your nVME will run hot in this case even with heatsinks on them. But that's okay, as long as they have heatsinks. That 4080 Super is going to poop hot air though make everything hotter. If he didn't switch out to better fans (like Noctua) that have a quieter profile then it's going to be loud to draw out all the hot air.

    • @Jacketz123
      @Jacketz123 Місяць тому +2

      @@pilotr498 timestamp?

    • @stevenkoo2294
      @stevenkoo2294 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@the12gaugeshotty and it need to be in an 16°c room with air purifier

    • @KroeseMaurits
      @KroeseMaurits Місяць тому

      That 4080 super is going to thermal throttle like crazy. The clearance between the exhaust fan on the back and the psu back cover is a couple of millimeters. Maybe flip the psu?

  • @HardwareFRA
    @HardwareFRA Місяць тому

    Same Case and same PSU, they fit no problem

  • @Anthexd
    @Anthexd Місяць тому

    does it fit a nzxt 240 Kraken Elite?

  • @robjoyce-lifestyle6464
    @robjoyce-lifestyle6464 4 дні тому

    This is a awesome build for the size, I have a question is it possible to build something this small and have a portable power source to power it when traveling and power is nowhere in sight and one has to depend on power bricks/ power banks etc, is that even possible. Do they make a PSU that can run off of both AC and DC?

  • @thatzaliasguy
    @thatzaliasguy Місяць тому

    FYI, AMD can utilize CUDA via ZLUDA in these same applications, about on par with Nvidia native.

  • @deviouslaw
    @deviouslaw Місяць тому +1

    I would have liked to see it tested.

  • @ericnguyen0419
    @ericnguyen0419 Місяць тому

    hi devyn, what are you using to measure fps temps etc? is it afterburner? maybe i need to tweak mine cuz yours looks clean

  • @rodrigoambriz8421
    @rodrigoambriz8421 Місяць тому

    How can I get those clean looking stats while playing? Is it a skin for Afterburner ?

  • @Tech2C
    @Tech2C Місяць тому

    GPU temps? It looks very cramped in there.

  • @69Buddha
    @69Buddha Місяць тому

    If you were going to go Intel instead of AMD for this build, what MB would you use instead? Great review, btw!

  • @alihammad6883
    @alihammad6883 Місяць тому

    Gigabyte boards seem to having issues with PCI-E Gen 4.0 Riser cables. Did you face any of those issues?

  • @yeoldepedro
    @yeoldepedro Місяць тому +1

    Why using RGB fans when they won't be visible at all? This just makes the cable management harder and also causing more clutter (and thus worse airflow).

  • @JTvlogs984
    @JTvlogs984 28 днів тому

    still beats my ten series build from 2016 - i7 67k @ 4.5GHz - Z170X Gaming - MSI 1070 8GB - Corsair Ram 30000MHz OC to 3200 - M.2 - SSD's - NZXT AIO

  • @A.H_610
    @A.H_610 Місяць тому

    So if my productivity is about MS office and Pdfs and browser tabs like 30+ and statistical analysis software like Stata and Python. Which cpu is good and future proof for me as I game AAA games sometimes if I have time. 7800x3d or 7950x3d.

  • @DengueBurger
    @DengueBurger 22 дні тому

    Can you build in the SSUPD MESHROOM D?

  • @imsoborrred5422
    @imsoborrred5422 Місяць тому

    what software using for measuring performance in games ?

  • @Gabrilrules
    @Gabrilrules 22 дні тому

    What was that adapter? At 3:14 and where can I find it please???

  • @popcornguy96
    @popcornguy96 20 днів тому

    How is the graphics card connected to the motherboard when it's at the back?

  • @thedesignguy9203
    @thedesignguy9203 28 днів тому

    Does it fit in a backpack ?

  • @zette4273
    @zette4273 Місяць тому

    Hows this motherboard doing with gen4 riser? ive seen people complaining about it not wortking unless set to gen3 mode manually

    • @hvasya
      @hvasya Місяць тому

      I have gen3 version of this case and have issues (at the start of building or if you drop mobo setting to default) with gen4 card 😅

  • @InNawa
    @InNawa Місяць тому

    Is Mini PC like that good for gaming in long term use??

  • @pepel3d
    @pepel3d Місяць тому +4

    why does almost everyone who builds such computers not do temperature tests under load? It looks cool, but it's small and I can't say for sure how it will behave if, for example, I render with the processor for 4 hours.

    • @jeremyg2236
      @jeremyg2236 Місяць тому

      better place to ask such info, is SFF community forums, or SFF pc discord servers. They have various people using their SFF pc for work on top of gaming.

    • @AlteredVisioned
      @AlteredVisioned Місяць тому +1

      AMD + mesh case + aio, the temps will mostly be good

    • @pepel3d
      @pepel3d Місяць тому

      @@AlteredVisioned 1. This is a mesh case, but it is a small mesh ^^
      2. if the temperatures, as you say, will be good, why not show it in the tests? I'm sure such a computer will be great for games, but for a long and frequent render, I'm not sure.

    • @Sergeeeek
      @Sergeeeek Місяць тому

      New amd cpus target 95c at full load, so temp graphs will be kinda boring. It will have a higher clock if you have good cooling though or if you undervolt. So instead of temperatures I'd rather see the clocks.
      I'm using a 7600 in a tiny case (Velka 5) and a tiny small air cooler. When compiling a large c++ codebase it's stuck at 95c. Before undervolting it would run at slower frequency, now it runs a bit faster (100-300mhz difference)

  • @danilosadorra
    @danilosadorra Місяць тому +1

    What. is. that. FPS. overlay.
    PLEASE, somebody's got to know. I need that minimalism! (at 1:05)

  • @bohemiadre
    @bohemiadre Місяць тому

    Do you ship to vancouver?

  • @whippyy782
    @whippyy782 Місяць тому

    The 14900k is not on par with the 7950x3d. Especially with the compatibility problems, instead of fixing them they created a weak default profile which doesn't perform anywhere close to the 7950x3d

  • @dinozaurpickupline4221
    @dinozaurpickupline4221 29 днів тому

    Can you build a liquid cooling mini itx form factor under $500

  • @east_wood
    @east_wood Місяць тому

    To clarify for others, this rad is 27mm not 37mm (otherwise it wouldn't fit). If you are considering this case, do not buy an extra thick radiator thinking it'll fit. I'd also avoid using T30 fans unless you have a slim radiator. Clearance is a tight 55mm.

  • @jesseyou2
    @jesseyou2 Місяць тому

    Anyone know why creators are chosing the Cooler Master AIO compared to others recently? My AIO is almost at the 5 year mark so I kinda wanna replace it before any leakage.

  • @bohemiadre
    @bohemiadre Місяць тому

    can i buy this setup directly from you?

  • @lvc1ferr
    @lvc1ferr Місяць тому

    How much in total?

  • @HardwareFRA
    @HardwareFRA Місяць тому

    77K subs
    7,7K views
    :)

  • @ShahoX
    @ShahoX Місяць тому

    Please, a budget gaming PC video..

  • @I_am_Just_Unlucky
    @I_am_Just_Unlucky Місяць тому

    0:19 Ryzen 7 7950x3d?

  • @justeddm
    @justeddm Місяць тому

    Like 1800 USD in this tiny box, sff is good to look at but price 😅

  • @wiktorbednarz229
    @wiktorbednarz229 Місяць тому

    wish i could build a small pc but those parts are expensive

  • @namhsaa
    @namhsaa Місяць тому +81

    A 7950X3D is definitely overkill even for productivity, I see only a few uses for it so if you're not a heavy video editor or NASA employee just go with the 7800X3D

    • @tastyham
      @tastyham Місяць тому +6

      Yup, and 7800x3D is also cheaper for.. better usage!

    • @juskim
      @juskim Місяць тому +18

      I'll take all the threads available for MATLAB :)

    • @migueltorcuator2152
      @migueltorcuator2152 Місяць тому +18

      you have no idea what you’re talking abou

    • @vinyfiny
      @vinyfiny Місяць тому +10

      Plenty more use cases than those two that'll take as many threads as you can get. AMD and Intel wouldn't be making high thread count CPU's just for NASA employees and video editors😂.

    • @netnomad47
      @netnomad47 Місяць тому +2

      let him cook

  • @dummesleo3411
    @dummesleo3411 Місяць тому

    Build mine with a 13400f and a rx 7800 XT

  • @DengueBurger
    @DengueBurger 22 дні тому

    12:00 yeah, pretty sad how nvidia will release ~5 different 8GB cards.
    but only 1-2 12Gb, 1 16GB, and 1 20-24GB cards lol. Like even for gaming, 10-12GB minimum would be nice now. Make 6-8GB cards low profile or single slot. 🎉

  • @doncarcedo8064
    @doncarcedo8064 Місяць тому

    can it run crysis?

  • @BearzyyTV
    @BearzyyTV Місяць тому

    I got my bf a i5 13400f for his birthday. (Intel fanboy) Looking at a 4070ti or a 4080 for his birthday this year. He currently has a 2080ti

  • @dweblinveltz5035
    @dweblinveltz5035 Місяць тому

    Can this fit an SFL PSU?

    • @_shreyash_anand
      @_shreyash_anand Місяць тому +1

      It does. Cable management under the PSU might be a bit tight but if you remove the bottom panel to smoosh them in then there still should be more than enough space

  • @sebastianperalta7
    @sebastianperalta7 Місяць тому +1

    Ryzen 9 7950x3d not ryzen 7

  • @Pillokun
    @Pillokun Місяць тому

    I have been using this case for a while now, and I got to say it, it is annoying to build in and very badly designed. Every time I open it upp it just grind my gears how bad it is to build/tinker with. The radiator section is in the way with how it is designed, the psu bracket ie how the psu is placed in the case is also in a bad spot making it a headache when it comes to the psu cables, and if u have an aio it will be even more annoying.
    They did not really have a plan on what they wanted to do and it is pretty meh at doing everything instead, but it looks nice.

    • @Pillokun
      @Pillokun Місяць тому

      @@_Error_702_ 24pin cables is the biggest annoyance. Having custom cables with som wires being shorter and some longer would help

  • @controlflow89
    @controlflow89 Місяць тому

    I generally like your videos, but every time somebody installs flow-through cooler gpu in a tight space… whyyy, whyyy?

  • @djhinrg
    @djhinrg 22 дні тому

    Almost $3k mini box pc all just to save room space for Cheetos

  • @andrewvickers4487
    @andrewvickers4487 Місяць тому

    Can anybody recommend a channel/site for non-gaming builds i.e. iGPU? I know it's less sexy and all but..?

  • @kettusnuhveli341
    @kettusnuhveli341 Місяць тому

    BTW the Corsair SF750 has been discontinued

  • @dummesleo3411
    @dummesleo3411 Місяць тому

    You said ryzen 7 at the beginning

  • @sahadsifat
    @sahadsifat Місяць тому

    Give that pc away to me😅

  • @fsanozuke
    @fsanozuke Місяць тому

    7900xtx

  • @supreme5998
    @supreme5998 Місяць тому

    No mousepad is crazy

  • @mightyantskate
    @mightyantskate Місяць тому

    You started out saying Ryzen 7 for the Ryzen 9 chip. 0:18 easy mistake with amd cpus

  • @deneguil-1618
    @deneguil-1618 Місяць тому

    Hardware wise CUDA cores and AMD's SMs are the exact same things, SIMD units that allows for parallel processing.
    The main difference is the number of SIMD and their width. It's why Nvidia cards don't gain performance when going from FP32 precision to FP16 while AMD doubles it. And also why going from FP32 to FP64, Nvidia sees a 64x decrease in performance while AMD only 32x
    CUDA is the API that allows programs to interact with the card, it's not the hardware. It's entirely on the developers of applications to choose to use CUDA. There are alternatives as well, OpenCL, SyCL, Vulkan compute. The more mature one is OpenCL but they're all cross platforms, so devs only code once and it works on every vendor
    AMD is also developping HIP but it's honestly a pretty dumb way of doing things, the API is similar to CUDA to be a drop in replacement and it dynamically calls CUDA functions or AMD equivalents depending on your hardware,
    I personally went with an AMD GPU cause the only competition they have for support and stability on Linux is honestly Intel. The price to performance and amount of VRAM is also a lot more interesting and I simply refuse to support the shady business practices that Nvidia is known for

  • @gprn3
    @gprn3 Місяць тому

    Nearly 200 € for just the mini-ITX case not for me, I don't understand the price for such little boxes.

  • @gucky4717
    @gucky4717 Місяць тому +1

    There are a few points I want to mention.
    1. Intel can be very efficiant, if you undervolt it and lose some performance in the process. You have to try a few numbers, but it will also fix the instability.
    Due to the IHS and DIE placement it can be cooled much better then AM5 currently. That difference can easily be 50-70W and you still get the same temps.
    2. The 7950X3D still has some issues with assigning cores, which can produce hicups in games for example.
    And the 7950X3D can run really hot due to the thick IHS, you NEED good cooling for productivity. For gaming it uses the lower clocked 3D-Cores and produces less heat.
    3. Socket longevity. AM5 will get Zen5, the next generation AMD CPU, but it is doubtful if it gets another generation after that.
    Zen6 will have 2x cores and more cores usually need for power. In order to get more power to the socket, you need to change it, thus AM6 for Zen6.
    Since I don't do productivity on my PC, I'd choose the 7800X3D every time, but not the 7950X3D.
    A CPU that is undervolted and downclocked by about 10-15% might lose 10% performance, but save 30-50% power!!!
    Same as GPUs, my 4090 runs below 300W but only loses 5% performance for that. 5% is 2-3 FPS you won't notice, but you notice the quieter PC and less heat in the room.

  • @egdajh
    @egdajh Місяць тому

    give me that pc

  • @halodrag0n
    @halodrag0n Місяць тому +1

    unfortunally the scene at 8:07 is pointless with background music

  • @weiyuhong8763
    @weiyuhong8763 Місяць тому

    Am I the only one who noticed that TAMRON 17-28mm F/2.8 is not on the list?