GrimaultWarrior, true. The problem is that the writers don’t respect the comic books. They look at the comic books as if that’s the inferior medium and that the screen writers have to make it better. Bryan Singer, for example, forbade comic books on set because he didn’t want anyone making canon suggestions to him. He wanted the stories to be his alone.
@@GrahamCStrouse the entire dark phoenix saga trade paperback is less then 500 pages. Movies are made from books all the time that are much longer. It can be done.
Not sure where people are getting this, the movie franchise was done before this even came out. Disney owns xmen now and they already said long before the release if DP that they wouldn't try working them into the universe for a while.
i don't think you been paying attention at all or you have such a nostalgia hard on that you didn't pay attention to the garbage that was X-Men....its ALL the fking movies put together, brick on top of brick that sealed its fate. Guess the fking idiots at NOT MARVEL marvel studios didn't realize dark phoenix was the least liked X-men stories of all time, When Apocalypse came out it made us hit out heads against walls...we were hopeful...I held my breath wishing that they wouldn't make a new movie about the phoenix, she was in the Apocalypse movie, no way she will be in the.....the reboot just fed shite up past my ability to care for a franchise thats almost 60 years old....without Kerby X-Men is nothing, any real fan knew it wasn't Lee which is why the whole series SUCKED.....Lee was a businessman not a writer of any quality...
Mystique: "I can't remember the last time you sacrificed something..." She says to the man in a wheelchair. She says to the man who took a bullet to save his best friend. She says to the man who stood up to Apocalypse, ALONE... She says to the man who watched his best friend kill somebody with a coin, because he was unwilling to kill his friend to stop him... And on and on....
I swear, Michael Fassbender has the power to make any role he's in interesting, no matter how shitty or poorly-scripted the movie in question could be.
Ngl I thought this was by far his weakest performance out of his role as Magneto. I mean he was still the best actor in the movie but he wasn’t amazing unlike the other 3 movies, especially Apocalypse
I agree. Nothing irritates me more in a superhero movie than when they treat my favorite characters with little to no respect. Juggernaut, Doomsday, and the Punisher are a few examples.
i swear its always the speedsters, no one knows how to write speedsters in a way that doesnt give them less screen time, make them stupid or take away their powers and i dont blame them because i dont know how i would do something like that without making the speedster the main character
Exactly, when people were trying to help her to understand her new power, she shun them. But when a new anonymous person tells her to submit to this newfound power, she listened? Notice how she didn't feel remorse for an appropriate amount of time after killing Mystique? And then suddenly feel powerful after hearing few words from the villain.
Another problem was, no one wanted a dark phoenix movie. When Jean Grey did her thing during the climax of apocalypse you see the dark phoenix symbol for a second and I heard the entire cinema groan.
Jean is alive at the end of days of future past (when logan wakes up in the future.) even though she clearly dies or passes on as the phoenix force in this one lmao. Don't tell me its in a different timeline since time is linear in the Xmen Universe (as it is shown in Days of Future past, whatever Logan changes in the past directly affects his own timeline so the new movies are still ocurring in the same timeline where Logan woke up and Jean was still alive). Its just another case of Fox not knowing how to handle an interconnected universe properly.
this movie reminds me of those direct to DVD Disney sequels from the 90s, where they'd add new characters, reverse character arcs, or even revive dead characters just for the sake of cranking out a sequel and making a few extra bucks.
@John Doe you want to explain how it was woke trash? Yeah movies like terminator dark fate and Ghostbusters 2016 were woke trash, but How'd you conclude Logan was woke?
Mr Orc Shaman it’s all woke trash now, but it’s incredible how Rian Johnson was talking about subversion being a big part of his movie when subversion is such a huge part of what’s going on right now.
The thing is, in the comics, the dark phoenix storyline was built up for YEARS. Jean was shown to always struggle with her powers and was often in training with Xavier. He even foreshadowed her evil turn years prior to the saga. Jean was also a beloved character that readers grew up with and seeing her finally give in to evil was gut wrenching and sad. You can't do this saga in one movie since it has too much stuff to build up from. It needs to be a three movie build up, at LEAST. And its sad cause the Phoenix Saga is one of the best x men storylines and seeing it botched not once, but twice is just horrific
MCU is going to build up multiple X-Men movies before concluding with Phoenix Saga. .. It will be done in the same vein of Infinity Saga but with lesser movies
@@diannajennings266 You have no idea whether if they'll do it at all, let alone when - the X-Men aren't even talked about in terms of movies just yet. Lay off copium and get some fresh air.
@@screamybingus707 No need to scream at Dark Jean like that, she's just another fan who still has hope :- ) We might get some nice movies out of the MCU X-Men
X-Men 3: The Last Stand *Magneto: I prefer the real conclusion of the X-Men series.* X-Men: Dark Phoenix *Magneto: I said the REAL conclusion of the X-Men series.* Logan *Magneto: Perfection.*
@@Fi_Sci_ In my alternate version of the last X-Men movie I envisioned Magneto dying instead, Fassbender's Magneto is easily the most sympathetic character in the franchise so giving him a closure would be fitting, not to mention be actually moving. And like Logan it'd be R-rated to make the violence and the deaths more realistic and impactful. Making another Dark Phoenix story is absolutely stupid because in Days of Future Past when Logan wakes up in the rebooted timeline adult Jean is still alive, so OF COURSE she won't die when she's younger, there's no tension. Perhaps since in my version Mr. Sinister is the villain and Transigen would be involved, Jean is replaced by a clone, so that way we also have foreshadowing that cloned Jean and Scott will give birth to Cable. Likewise I'd also briefly show Xavier's stepbrother Cain Marko leaving to explore some temple thus foreshadowing that he'll find the gem that'll turn him into Deadpool 2's Juggernaut. Ian McKellen's Magneto didn't show up in the ending so unlike Jean his younger self CAN die in the new timeline. Hell, maybe his absence helped Transigen do what they did to nearly extinct mutantkind. My take of the film would contain foreshadowings to Logan and Deadpool 2, and the main thing would be Nightcrawler and Quicksilver confronting their respective parents (Mystique and Magneto), and we maybe get a tragic flashback of Mystique leaving baby Kurt to a circus to keep him safe from Trask's men, just give some pay off between the characters and tie the loose ends, god damn it, it's the final film of the series.
@@DeepEye1994 The problem with that is they already screwed up the whole origins of all these characters. By making mystique a BFF of charles that supposedly grew up with him, making her unable to abandon baby Kurt by a Church, where he picks up his values from. As she would've been with charles at child birthing age if she was "found" as a 6 year old. The whole x-men series stopped following any semblance of following their origins after X2. 1/2 had some minor tweaks but the characters still had the same personalities and traits of their comics respectively. Then they brought in actors/actresses that thought they knew better, and literally revolved the story around logan/mystique, by bastardizing the stories they are based off of. Days of future past, Logan is not the one that goes back in time. Mystique is never BFFs with Charles and is very much playing to her own ends most of the time. And is very against human rights, but here we are because the pro mutant actress can't do the process she signed up for, a mystique that is "pro mutant" but human 90% of the time.
Logan was the perfect, sad, yet amicable breakup. We went our separate ways on a great final respectful note. Dark Phoenix is when you try to re-hook back up on a lonely night after a few drinks. You know each other, but it's all just physical. The love is gone.
@Rob Melrose Or, it's the old friend of your ex's who you haven't hung out with, but you end up going home with her because it feels familiar enough... Then you find out she's into hook suspension and masochism, and has her tongue forked down the middle. After sex, she starts punching you in the face because you didn't tell her that you loved her, and you just get the f**k outta there, man!
Jackman, Mcavoy, Fassbender, Patrick Stewart, Ian were extremely well cast. Evan Peters was also super well cast. I can’t see those characters being played by anyone else they’re goated
Every one of these movies is basically a retread of the X-Men Cartoon from the 90s, just not done as well. Most of them are just the stories from the first season.
you should learn what sacrifice is....he didn't give the ability to walk for a reason. his fucking legs were crushed by a huge rock. Its not sacrifice if its stolen, what makes it a sacrifice is when you give something up so something else happens....his cock still fucking works. You are just a hipster man....i hate these new fake fans.
ravinraven6913 i mean, the event in First Class where his legs' functionality were stolen is the important bit. He could have just let magneto utterly destroy the navy ships, but he didn't and begged him not to. And in that altercation he got shot (by crossfire, sure, but still because they disagreed). Regardless, he was disabled while saving the world from nuclear disaster. Not on a simple car crash or something. So it's still a pretty dang sacrifice. Also, if you look at Days of Future's past, he can walk, even though it's after that event. He explains it's because of a drug he takes, enabling him to walk but removing his powers. So yeah, keeping that canon, he sacrifices his ability to walk so that he can continue to protect the world.
@@ravinraven6913 I'm not a fake wtf does that even mean I've been an x men comic fan for years not that it matters but as someone has already pointed out to you in this universe not comic xmen he got crippled in a different way he can take a drug to walk that blocks his powers so he chooses not to take the drug every day You sound like a buthurt comic elitist I was like that when i was a kid so try to remember even if someone is only an xmen movie fan they are still xmen fans whether you like it or not even if the movies are complete shit which most of them are its still a way that plenty of people are going to learn about and start looking into better stories from better writers
Sebastien Napoleon nah. she’s okay, but not good enough for me to legit not want her to leave. her American accent is terrible. someone else could do better.
The actors/characthers I will miss of the X-men franchise are both Magnetos and Xaviers, the Beast of the Last Stand, Quicksilver, and of course, Wolverine.
I honestly hated how they decided Mistique needed to be developed from full-on villain to a dedicated member of the X-Men She was never in the X-Men with good intentions And it's appalling how first class is supposed to take place before X1, and we're supposed to just accept the events they shat out
It's probably because Jennifer Lawrence and the writers thought that Mystique was just an overglorified henchwoman of Magneto, which doesn't fit their agenda of a "strong independent female leader who can be a role model to young girls worldwide." It's probably the same reason why Harley Quinn got so damn popular as a standalone character despite also being an overglorified henchwoman of the Joker, who is more interesting than her anyway. Also note that the OG Mystique was a woman who was constantly naked while doing an old man's dirty work for him, always killing people and sneaking around when not listening to Magneto's speeches about mutant supremacy. I never had a problem with the old Mystique because Rebecca Romijn brought actual mystique and strength to the character, to the point that I didn't need to hear her make any speeches just to know how dangerous or important she was. It was quite an ironic thing that despite lacking any clothing, she was by far NOT the most vulnerable person in the X-Men films. Romijn's Mystique truly was a femme fatale and worthy of being an interesting villain in her own right, and her defeat in The Last Stand was actually an interesting low point to show just how ruthless Magneto was, even to his most trusted friend.
@@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight Quinn is so disappointing because she was such an interesting character when she was created: a madwoman who had tried to help the Joker, became obsessed with him, and went insane. She's still incredibly competent when she puts her mind to it, able to adopt different accents and behave as a professional in order to play different roles for infiltration and espionage... And then in the 2010s DC went "Nah, female Deadpool who farts a lot!"
@@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight This. She was never only a henchwoman, she had her own interests and she was capable enough to follow them. And although she was loyal to Magneto you always felt she was only there bc she wanted to. When in the end of the last movie it was teased that mutant powers would return the most interesting thing for me was what Mystique will do now, will she confront Magneto?!. To this day the recast is my biggest issue with x-men, but her story was all but annihilated after that too, so... Funny how Magneto in First Class says she shouldn't spend half her energy on pretending to be something else, implying her future development and growing acceptance of herself, but she never actually follows this advice (bc the blue make up looks ridiculous on her probably). Romijn's Mystique never had to be told anything, she was fully developed personality by the time we met her in the movies - and made an incredibly interesting character at that.
@Andrew Salter I'd like to think Maisie (Arya) has potential and Jack (Joffrey) seemed like a natural but he said other than GoT he has no interest in acting. Shame.
That's actually a common misconception. She always had the phoenix force & the space fart just unlocked it. It's like her true potential. It does seem like a continuity error, though.
@SmashStomp Inc its alot like how in a previous X-Men movie they hired Ryan Reynolds and sewed his mouth shut to play Deadpool the first time. That's like hiring James Earl Jones to play a mute.
I'm not ready to give up McAvoy and Fassbender as Charles and Erik. They had the chemistry, they really felt like put effort into these movies, especially first class and days of future past were exceptional, but even in apocalypse... I mean... can't we keep them?
@@alexz4752 Yes, they really did. I couldn't even watch those movies if it wasn't for them... and well, Isaac may be a good actor, but the overall design of Apocalypse and the scenery (filming in daylight.... in Ausschwitz..... the whole fight scene in daylight, Apocalypse just didn't look good) really destroyed it. Kinda sad, actually.
@Aron Maddocks oof. I still hope that it's just a stupid rumour... but with the direction Disney is going atm (I mean.. they completely stomped Star wars into the ground) it might be true. I don't know what I'd do if it was.
@@KizaruB The prequel series was over before the movie even stared filming. Then was meant to be the last one and a possible Phoenix sequel with the original cast.
@@jamiebraswell5520 probably because of how bad the movie was and how he cant comprehend how hard the directors of this "movie" had a hard time adapting a comic it had dialogue, a story, and even drawn pictures to follow through!
@@nickswanson2124 My point is: was he judging the movie on its own merits aks- do he recognize what the movie is trying to do and judge whether it found success in its endeavors? Seems like a lot people didn’t.
@@agentofchaos7456 And here I am, thinking that a crap story, bad writing and weak and arrogant characters are, well, just a crap story, bad writing and weak and arrogant characters.
As weird as it sounds I'll miss the old X-men. They were very uneven movies to say the least, but when they got it right they really got it right. Now they will be assimilated into the MCU and they will be just another series of bland superhero movies. I'll take 3 really good and 3 terrible movies over 6 bland and forgetable movies all day every day.
When Mystique dies I can't help thinking that Jennifer Lawrence's reaction was the same as the old man in the bowels of the Exxon Valdez in Waterworld when the flare is dropped in, "oh thank god".
JL was so done with these movies, that's why she wears less and less blue makeup as the movies go on. She was still a nobody in First Class so she was doing the full body suit and blue makeup shit, then when the Hunger Games made her a big deal she apparently had more weight to throw around so she had less and less blue makeup scenes.
But at least there's still pictures of her vag and b-hole on the internet. She's not a good actress but she does look like she could be the cute chick that works at Jamba Juice that you might have a chance with if only you ate less carbs and did more sit-ups.
If you think about it, other than x men, mcavoy and fassbender don't have any other roles that have the same popularity as professor x and magneto. Even if they did get lucky enough got involved into a film or series based on popular culture (narnia, assasin's creed, it, alien, etc.), those movies are more of a failure than success.
Fun facts: Both of The actors of Professor X and Magneto either Old version (Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen) and Young version (James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender) are best friends in real life
Wouldn't it been nice to see the Xmen in their Original costumes-at least once-especially Wolverine? Heck they hinted to that in the Wolverine movie in Japan.
@@josepharcher9620 that's actually one thing i liked about the 2000 X-Men movie, those goofy leather body suits were actually pretty cool even if they couldnt bend their knees or elbows.
Reshoots and delays ruined the movie, the studios are to blame for this. Same thing happened to SS and JL. What a shame, we got 4 bad superhero movies out of 4 this year. And no, it has not been "killed", that is hyperbolic bullshit to get views.
she could play "ice queen" characters well since shes so cold and wooden, but for an emotional charcater like Phoenix she's just too bland and one dimensional,
@zerocooltx that makes sense. Maybe she's one of these kids that was forced in front of the camera by her parents and it's really not her thing. I got nothing against her as a human being just an actress.
Hulk transformation was a gamma ray experiment on earth, which is similar to Jessica Jones or Luke Cage , fantastic 4 is more like this version of Phoenix..
Yeah no kidding, it was a viciously abusive relationship. First it drew us in with X men 1 and 2. Then it got drunk and went apeshit with a frying pan upside our heads with the last stand and origin wolverine. Then it went to rehab, promised us it was never going to happen again with first class and days of futures past. Then it fell off the wagon got drunk and beat us upside the head with a sock housing a couple of rolls of quarters with the last two shit shows.
RedLetterMedia already made that analogy with the Star Wars prequels lol love the analogy nonetheless Speaking of RLM, I sum up Dark Phoenix as this: it’s like going to your daughter’s stupid college graduation. You know it’s gonna suck but you gotta go anyways to get it over with..... actually fuck that metaphor. It’s like an autopsy: you know it’s dead, but you gotta do an autopsy anyways to see who or what killed it.
It's amazing to think that despite two big screen attempts, the 90s cartoon still has the best adaptation of the Dark Phoenix Saga! It also did Apocalypse far better as well!
And they screwed it up so badly on film twice that the MCU will have to wait forever to do it right, to get the bad taste out of our mouths first. Luckily no one saw Dark Phoenix, so that helps.
My "favorite" scene was when Jennifer Lawrence's Mystique said they should rename the group to X-Women because the women are always saving the men, right after the guys had to save her because she was too stupid to do anything right. That's actually where I stopped watching.
Kinberg chose to completely ignore that even though he's the one who wrote it. It's just another error In a long line of them in this error filled series
The only possible explanation is that she already had those powers & the phoenix force simply brought them out of her & amplified them, but the whole thing is really just a continuity error. The director obviously just wanted the end of Apocalypse to be an easter egg to Dark Phoenix, regardless of it making absolutely no sense. Nothing more than a "Hey, guys, guess what we're doing next? 💥🦅🔥 HINT HINT" moment to get people hyped up for the next film.
Darren Gordon-Hill I like anything that makes fun of any asshat actor who is overly self important and shits on the fans. Sansa certainly meets those two qualifications.
Sophie Turner can play cold "ice queen" characters well but sticking her in a role like Pheonix, a woman who's supposed to have uncontrollable emotions, is playing against any of her strong suits. It's like having James Earl Jones play a mute, he can do it but it goes against his best talents.
With how fast Quicksilver has been shown to be. As in, the instant an explosion went off, he rounded up an entire mansion full of kids and put them outside... and he was pissing about whilst doing it. They had to nerf him so hard. I don't care how powerful Jean is psychicly. Quicksilver would have downed her within, like, an 8th of a picosecond. Jean ain't reacting to that 😂
@@irisbutterfly4845 Exactly. Yeah, she can literally tear things apart atomically, but she is still very much human with pretty average reaction times.
@@ryans6309 Errr you for real? Have you ever watched Fox News? Picked up a Rupert Murdoch shitrag? Media has been politicised long before the 2000s mate and any claim to the contrary is either ignorance or a bold faced lie.
i dont normally buy youtuber merch.... but id buy that shirt, add a bunch of badly drawn pics of those actors and put that caption, then we are good to go
A coworker of mine said that this was her favorite movie of all time. No, I’m not even remotely kidding nor did she hesitate when saying it. I was absolutely floored
@Emperor Ssraeshza I have to disagree with you on that...having Sir Mr Stewart as Prof. X was light years better than whoever it was that voiced him in TAS. While usually he sounded...mostly normal, there were many times where it was like nails-on-chalkboard. But yeah, most everything else TAS did better.
Imagine an alternate universe where Bryan Singer never took back control of the franchise after the unexpected success of First Class, and we got to see where the team which brought us that film wanted to take the characters.
I was so excited for Gambit. One of my all time favorite characters from the show. They just... Sigh. RIP Gambit. I'll miss you. Edit: The dark Phoenix saga from the 90's was amazing...and they just decide to completely rewrite it for... Reasons? O.o
I love how this guy totally embraces the manners of a drunk guy who reviews movies. Not trying to be kind or looking for redeeming qualities like most reviews. Just fully destroying the film. I love it.
The thing that pissed me off was that Jean, who isn't at all that familiar with Magneto in the Apocalypse film, has more screen time with Magneto than Quicksilver does, HIS SON. And then, he was just nonexistent for like, majority of the film.
How do you manage to make a mistake in writing when the source material is literally already written and loved, and has been for years?! It's like fucking up being born, at 10 years of age.
The movie was meant to be the first part of a duology but the merger resulted in the sequel being axed and it was re-edited to remove plot threads that were meant to be expanded on in sequels. The film is actually faithful to the earlier segments of the saga.
The Drinker usually makes me laugh out loud with his reviews but this one had my crying with laughter. Likening an XMen movie to an abusive relationship lol That will never get old!
Pretty much, though Apocalypse's slow mo scene and the mind battle between Xavier and Oscar Isaacs are good looking scenes. Really like Deadpool movies too. The Wolverine was okay 'til he goes to Japan. The bridge scene and end battle of The Last Stand were cool. So something nice everywhere. Dark Phoenix has Fassbender so that's the only compliment for that and I'm not going to say anything about Origins... These movies are mostly just backing noise for me whenever I get too bored.
When Jennifer Larence went 'We should be called x women and not x men.' I said it was a time for the drinker. When they tried turning x into the villain at points in the film, seemed a little crazy. I basically tuned out after this was said. X was one of my favourite characters in x men (aside from Hugh Jackman and quick ). All of his hope and how he was able to 'be the light' for magneto and just hope and forgiveness and his character in general. This movie just shat him out and was made into this horrible character who was only into it for himself or how he just turned into this angry dude in a wheelchair who just seemed to be weak. 7:13...
'Winter's Bone' is the only film I've seen where I found her truly compelling. She should have won her oscar for that. I will never fathom how she won best actress for a role that was supporting at best.
The person who screen writes Magnetos use of power when fighting deserves some credit. He is the only one who uses his powers to the max effectiveness, well nightcrawler did too when attacking the white house haha
i felt kind of dumb becuase a saw some scenes from the trailer awhile back and thought this and Captain Marvel were the same movie. I cant wait for this "poorly executed girl power instead of a good movie" trend dies. It's depressing that my Little Pony did a better job at girl power using Adobe Flash and a few B list voice actors than this movie could do with the finest special effects and some A list star power.
You mean Stamos? Yeah that's a repressed idea now. Having sexy female characters that are actually clever and interesting. But not know-it-alls who never fail at anything.
@@tokiwartooth4404 that's a hallmark of lazy girl power episodes. Good girl power are things like Powerpuff girls and MLP, interesting female leads who have flaws but get the job done. Bad girl power is a Mary Sue lead who's better than all the boys and cant stop rubbing their noses in it for that fact.
@@arthas640 Anime. Also Jaina, Sylvanas, and Tyrande in Warcraft 3. Among the other female characters like Maiev. I hate WoW because of the monetization, but WC3 is an 11/10 game.
@@tokiwartooth4404 I've been going by "Arthas" since Warcraft 3 came out and never liked WoW. It's an ok game but it inspired an endless flood of shitty MMOs that continue to this day. I hate MMOs on principal since they are mostly pay to win crap. I miss story driven RTSs like warcraft
@@arthas640 Oh I know. MMOs could have potential if they weren't all about recurring revenue. WoW ruined gaming and led us to where we are now. Activision gutted Blizzard. Reforged is a f'ing joke with paid skins to come. Most features are not working correctly, but we know that the Cash Shop will always be in working order. They killed the custom map community for Reforged already. The modders are sticking with classic disc version. Thankfully! WoW is the catalyst for Fallout 76 and games like that.
Making movies out of comics should be easier. The story is already written and they even have pictures to help the bad screenwriters not get confused.
GrimaultWarrior, true. The problem is that the writers don’t respect the comic books. They look at the comic books as if that’s the inferior medium and that the screen writers have to make it better. Bryan Singer, for example, forbade comic books on set because he didn’t want anyone making canon suggestions to him. He wanted the stories to be his alone.
@@AV57 yes, but my point really was that the comics usually have better writing.
GrimaultWarrior, yeah.
GrimaultWarrior The tricky part is adapting a story arc that might last a year or more into a two hour movie.
@@GrahamCStrouse the entire dark phoenix saga trade paperback is less then 500 pages. Movies are made from books all the time that are much longer. It can be done.
Dark phoenix was so strong she single handedly destroyed the franchise
Not sure where people are getting this, the movie franchise was done before this even came out. Disney owns xmen now and they already said long before the release if DP that they wouldn't try working them into the universe for a while.
facts lol I should have mentioned this in my previous review lol
i don't think you been paying attention at all or you have such a nostalgia hard on that you didn't pay attention to the garbage that was X-Men....its ALL the fking movies put together, brick on top of brick that sealed its fate. Guess the fking idiots at NOT MARVEL marvel studios didn't realize dark phoenix was the least liked X-men stories of all time, When Apocalypse came out it made us hit out heads against walls...we were hopeful...I held my breath wishing that they wouldn't make a new movie about the phoenix, she was in the Apocalypse movie, no way she will be in the.....the reboot just fed shite up past my ability to care for a franchise thats almost 60 years old....without Kerby X-Men is nothing, any real fan knew it wasn't Lee which is why the whole series SUCKED.....Lee was a businessman not a writer of any quality...
@@ravinraven6913 Thank you
twice
Mystique: "I can't remember the last time you sacrificed something..."
She says to the man in a wheelchair.
She says to the man who took a bullet to save his best friend.
She says to the man who stood up to Apocalypse, ALONE...
She says to the man who watched his best friend kill somebody with a coin, because he was unwilling to kill his friend to stop him...
And on and on....
You don't have to be consistent just as long as you're woke
Johnny Marvéll Thank you veeeerry much
Truth
#METOO!!!!!!!!!!!
@Vadika Munster Jesus this plus your previous comment... just stop using air please
I swear, Michael Fassbender has the power to make any role he's in interesting, no matter how shitty or poorly-scripted the movie in question could be.
Agreed .
Even Fassbender couldn't his character in the Assassin's Creed movie. Otherwise I agree though.
@@mckinleyostvig7135 Well AC was more of a diarrhea than a movie
Ngl I thought this was by far his weakest performance out of his role as Magneto. I mean he was still the best actor in the movie but he wasn’t amazing unlike the other 3 movies, especially Apocalypse
That's true though
It’s still hilarious to me that they decided to write off quicksilver who was probably the most liked of these X-men
I agree. Nothing irritates me more in a superhero movie than when they treat my favorite characters with little to no respect. Juggernaut, Doomsday, and the Punisher are a few examples.
i swear its always the speedsters, no one knows how to write speedsters in a way that doesnt give them less screen time, make them stupid or take away their powers and i dont blame them because i dont know how i would do something like that without making the speedster the main character
@@impulse5674 He was written well... well, hs slow-mo scenses were awesome. One even took 6 months to get right
@@outtaideas849 that’s all he got, slow mo scenes other than that he wasn’t really that important to the storyline
Hey its X-Peoplekind
Should have been called:
X-Men: One Last Paycheck
Nahhhhhh because WahMen
This was movie planned since before Days of Future Past came out.
😅🤣😂💪
X-MEN: F**K OFF SONY
They should rename the movie to “Bad Sansa”.
X-Ma'amba - The Bad Sansa.
YT is fascist. Are we even surprised though?: The queen of the north!!! Way north.....more like space!
Breaking Bad Sansa...wait a minute!!!
@@meekmeads 😂😂😂
Exactly, when people were trying to help her to understand her new power, she shun them. But when a new anonymous person tells her to submit to this newfound power, she listened? Notice how she didn't feel remorse for an appropriate amount of time after killing Mystique? And then suddenly feel powerful after hearing few words from the villain.
How do you fail to adapt a comic? It's already bloody storyboarded for you.
Did you read the comic? Because this isn't all that different.
The Problem is you just cant adapt a comic or book 1 to 1
How? When you are arrogant or ignorant enough to imagine YOU can add something to this!
Because the only guy who thought it was a good idea was Zach Synder.
I don’t think this movie failed but other super hero movies have.
Another problem was, no one wanted a dark phoenix movie. When Jean Grey did her thing during the climax of apocalypse you see the dark phoenix symbol for a second and I heard the entire cinema groan.
The cinema was full of Marvel vs capcom 3 players, who know the true horror of Phoenix ;)
@@HeirofDacia That is a possibility.
@@richardhuff9313 Civil war and Infinity war were great...
@@richardhuff9313 Nope.
@@richardhuff9313 That sounds a lot like your problem
So Mystique dies in a prequel to a movie where she's alive and well?
Continuity: "Nah, it'll be fine."
Yeah, I can't even begin to explain that one.
It's simple days of Future past shifted them into a different timeline/ universe so they aren't prequels anymore
Jean is alive at the end of days of future past (when logan wakes up in the future.) even though she clearly dies or passes on as the phoenix force in this one lmao.
Don't tell me its in a different timeline since time is linear in the Xmen Universe (as it is shown in Days of Future past, whatever Logan changes in the past directly affects his own timeline so the new movies are still ocurring in the same timeline where Logan woke up and Jean was still alive). Its just another case of Fox not knowing how to handle an interconnected universe properly.
Yeah wait how the fuck
You've never seen the Android saga, timelines people!
Logan was our goodbye and I'm absolutely, perfectly fine with that.
Texas Dice a goodbye that wasn’t even satisfying, but a decent one at least
this movie reminds me of those direct to DVD Disney sequels from the 90s, where they'd add new characters, reverse character arcs, or even revive dead characters just for the sake of cranking out a sequel and making a few extra bucks.
Logan was woke trash, IMO. It does what TLJ does to Luke, but an in an even more cold and disrespectful way.
@John Doe you want to explain how it was woke trash? Yeah movies like terminator dark fate and Ghostbusters 2016 were woke trash, but How'd you conclude Logan was woke?
Mr Orc Shaman it’s all woke trash now, but it’s incredible how Rian Johnson was talking about subversion being a big part of his movie when subversion is such a huge part of what’s going on right now.
The thing is, in the comics, the dark phoenix storyline was built up for YEARS. Jean was shown to always struggle with her powers and was often in training with Xavier. He even foreshadowed her evil turn years prior to the saga. Jean was also a beloved character that readers grew up with and seeing her finally give in to evil was gut wrenching and sad. You can't do this saga in one movie since it has too much stuff to build up from. It needs to be a three movie build up, at LEAST. And its sad cause the Phoenix Saga is one of the best x men storylines and seeing it botched not once, but twice is just horrific
MCU is going to build up multiple X-Men movies before concluding with Phoenix Saga. ..
It will be done in the same vein of Infinity Saga but with lesser movies
Phoenix Saga is as big as the Infinity Saga and MCU will do it right by building up to it.
@@diannajennings266 You have no idea whether if they'll do it at all, let alone when - the X-Men aren't even talked about in terms of movies just yet.
Lay off copium and get some fresh air.
@@screamybingus707 No need to scream at Dark Jean like that, she's just another fan who still has hope :- ) We might get some nice movies out of the MCU X-Men
AGREED 🔥
X-Men 3: The Last Stand
*Magneto: I prefer the real conclusion of the X-Men series.*
X-Men: Dark Phoenix
*Magneto: I said the REAL conclusion of the X-Men series.*
Logan
*Magneto: Perfection.*
DeepEye1994 👆🏻 *I Understood that reference*
Logan was depressing as hell.
I loved it.
•Vï •Mo• We need more Depressing Superhero flicks in our day and age haha
@@Fi_Sci_ In my alternate version of the last X-Men movie I envisioned Magneto dying instead, Fassbender's Magneto is easily the most sympathetic character in the franchise so giving him a closure would be fitting, not to mention be actually moving. And like Logan it'd be R-rated to make the violence and the deaths more realistic and impactful.
Making another Dark Phoenix story is absolutely stupid because in Days of Future Past when Logan wakes up in the rebooted timeline adult Jean is still alive, so OF COURSE she won't die when she's younger, there's no tension.
Perhaps since in my version Mr. Sinister is the villain and Transigen would be involved, Jean is replaced by a clone, so that way we also have foreshadowing that cloned Jean and Scott will give birth to Cable.
Likewise I'd also briefly show Xavier's stepbrother Cain Marko leaving to explore some temple thus foreshadowing that he'll find the gem that'll turn him into Deadpool 2's Juggernaut.
Ian McKellen's Magneto didn't show up in the ending so unlike Jean his younger self CAN die in the new timeline. Hell, maybe his absence helped Transigen do what they did to nearly extinct mutantkind.
My take of the film would contain foreshadowings to Logan and Deadpool 2, and the main thing would be Nightcrawler and Quicksilver confronting their respective parents (Mystique and Magneto), and we maybe get a tragic flashback of Mystique leaving baby Kurt to a circus to keep him safe from Trask's men, just give some pay off between the characters and tie the loose ends, god damn it, it's the final film of the series.
@@DeepEye1994 The problem with that is they already screwed up the whole origins of all these characters. By making mystique a BFF of charles that supposedly grew up with him, making her unable to abandon baby Kurt by a Church, where he picks up his values from. As she would've been with charles at child birthing age if she was "found" as a 6 year old.
The whole x-men series stopped following any semblance of following their origins after X2. 1/2 had some minor tweaks but the characters still had the same personalities and traits of their comics respectively. Then they brought in actors/actresses that thought they knew better, and literally revolved the story around logan/mystique, by bastardizing the stories they are based off of. Days of future past, Logan is not the one that goes back in time. Mystique is never BFFs with Charles and is very much playing to her own ends most of the time. And is very against human rights, but here we are because the pro mutant actress can't do the process she signed up for, a mystique that is "pro mutant" but human 90% of the time.
Mark Zuckenberg pretending to be human.... Naaah, it'll be fyne....
God you make me laugh.
I've always thought that Zuckerberg is a replicant.
He makes you quote in comments also
That remark got me too, it was unexpected even when I wasn't watching at a normal speed, it was quite the delight.
Made me laugh so hard with Data🤣🤣
Zuckerberg pretending to be human - that required approximately 5 minutes of paused video, whilst I laughed till I had pain.
Logan was the perfect, sad, yet amicable breakup. We went our separate ways on a great final respectful note.
Dark Phoenix is when you try to re-hook back up on a lonely night after a few drinks. You know each other, but it's all just physical. The love is gone.
Err.. ok
Logan was "watchable"
@Rob Melrose Or, it's the old friend of your ex's who you haven't hung out with, but you end up going home with her because it feels familiar enough... Then you find out she's into hook suspension and masochism, and has her tongue forked down the middle. After sex, she starts punching you in the face because you didn't tell her that you loved her, and you just get the f**k outta there, man!
😂😂😂😂💌
Logan was dreadful
Jackman, Mcavoy, Fassbender, Patrick Stewart, Ian were extremely well cast. Evan Peters was also super well cast. I can’t see those characters being played by anyone else they’re goated
You’re spitting straight facts
@@Batman1998- and the original Jean grey dispite her having some poor writing given to her
I mean you just listed two actors for prof x and magneto
Ian as magneto is good
But michael fassbender as magneto is AWESOME he IS the magneto
@@conserztasfia0078 This is like debating who is better between Sir Alec Guinness and Ewan McGregor as Obi-Wan
If the writers just read the comics these movies wouldn't flop so damn hard.
Every one of these movies is basically a retread of the X-Men Cartoon from the 90s, just not done as well. Most of them are just the stories from the first season.
They did. This movie wasn’t based on the Dark Phoenix Saga, it was based on X-Men Origins: Jean Grey and the Black Queen arc.
Issue is that days of futures past was awesome they should’ve stopped after that movie
@@aaronaustin9814 well it should have been days of future past and then Logan.
It was based on the origin story of Jean/Phoenix, not the whole saga.
Jennifer lawrences mystique looks hilariously bad
Low budget mystique . Lmqo
It’s because Jennifer Lawrence didn’t want to be body painted anymore so they had to give her a rubber suit instead. And a fucken awful wig.
I swear her makeup and hair look worse every movie. I've seen blue aliens in the old Star Trek shows that looked more convincing than her..
First class mystique was her best look
MapleLeafAce what a fucking joke everyone has seen her naked pics why would she bother being painted, I'm glad this franchise is over
Mystique kind of forgt Charles sacrifices his ability to walk or control his bladder every single day so that he can protect them
Lmao😭😭😭
bling sing I just got the D&D reference. Nice
you should learn what sacrifice is....he didn't give the ability to walk for a reason. his fucking legs were crushed by a huge rock. Its not sacrifice if its stolen, what makes it a sacrifice is when you give something up so something else happens....his cock still fucking works. You are just a hipster man....i hate these new fake fans.
ravinraven6913 i mean, the event in First Class where his legs' functionality were stolen is the important bit. He could have just let magneto utterly destroy the navy ships, but he didn't and begged him not to. And in that altercation he got shot (by crossfire, sure, but still because they disagreed).
Regardless, he was disabled while saving the world from nuclear disaster. Not on a simple car crash or something. So it's still a pretty dang sacrifice.
Also, if you look at Days of Future's past, he can walk, even though it's after that event. He explains it's because of a drug he takes, enabling him to walk but removing his powers. So yeah, keeping that canon, he sacrifices his ability to walk so that he can continue to protect the world.
@@ravinraven6913 I'm not a fake wtf does that even mean I've been an x men comic fan for years not that it matters but as someone has already pointed out to you in this universe not comic xmen he got crippled in a different way he can take a drug to walk that blocks his powers so he chooses not to take the drug every day
You sound like a buthurt comic elitist I was like that when i was a kid so try to remember even if someone is only an xmen movie fan they are still xmen fans whether you like it or not even if the movies are complete shit which most of them are its still a way that plenty of people are going to learn about and start looking into better stories from better writers
I love how he calls her sansa stark the whole time 😂
hahaha me too!! The whole review was awesome and irreverent and spot on. This review was a great pallet cleanser after watching this turd of a movie.
@@jontnoneya3404 I never even bothered watching it😂
I was so confused for most of the review. lol I didn't watch the movie or GoT. You might wonder why I'm here. Funny story that...
He calls all GoT characters by their show names instead of whatever role they're actually playing.
I love Fassbender as Magneto. He‘s the only one i will really miss, when the mcu xmen will surface
Jordan McAvoy as Xavier too.
how about sansa as jean ? oh i mean sophie turner
Sebastien Napoleon nah. she’s okay, but not good enough for me to legit not want her to leave. her American accent is terrible. someone else could do better.
Quicksilver was pretty good. And Wolverine.
The actors/characthers I will miss of the X-men franchise are both Magnetos and Xaviers, the Beast of the Last Stand, Quicksilver, and of course, Wolverine.
X Men franchise was already dead.
Dark Phoenix was like when a corpse farts.
But if a corpse farts then there is still life in her. There is no life in this franchise
@@thefreethinkingboy9403 No. Gas escaping a rotting corpse doesn't make it any less dead. Smh.
@@kagelynx really? Sorry I must be stupid
that corpse fart smells better than brie larson
Dark Phoenix was better than endgame
The saddest thing is that the show from the 90's adapted the Phoenix Saga BETTER than the films, and there's been 2 attempts for it.
Irony.... yes unfortunatelly that's the truth !!!
No doubt.
@@MrMrjack18 let's all laugh at an industry that never learns anything, teeheehee.
And by the way, let us not forget that Jean Grey become the laughing stock meme of useless because that show... still they get it right...
This wasn’t really an attempt at the saga though. It was meant to be the first part of a duology but the merger killed the plans for a sequel.
I honestly hated how they decided Mistique needed to be developed from full-on villain to a dedicated member of the X-Men
She was never in the X-Men with good intentions
And it's appalling how first class is supposed to take place before X1, and we're supposed to just accept the events they shat out
Not only a member but the most important member... how do they screw up this franchise this badly?
It's probably because Jennifer Lawrence and the writers thought that Mystique was just an overglorified henchwoman of Magneto, which doesn't fit their agenda of a "strong independent female leader who can be a role model to young girls worldwide." It's probably the same reason why Harley Quinn got so damn popular as a standalone character despite also being an overglorified henchwoman of the Joker, who is more interesting than her anyway.
Also note that the OG Mystique was a woman who was constantly naked while doing an old man's dirty work for him, always killing people and sneaking around when not listening to Magneto's speeches about mutant supremacy. I never had a problem with the old Mystique because Rebecca Romijn brought actual mystique and strength to the character, to the point that I didn't need to hear her make any speeches just to know how dangerous or important she was. It was quite an ironic thing that despite lacking any clothing, she was by far NOT the most vulnerable person in the X-Men films. Romijn's Mystique truly was a femme fatale and worthy of being an interesting villain in her own right, and her defeat in The Last Stand was actually an interesting low point to show just how ruthless Magneto was, even to his most trusted friend.
@@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight Quinn is so disappointing because she was such an interesting character when she was created: a madwoman who had tried to help the Joker, became obsessed with him, and went insane. She's still incredibly competent when she puts her mind to it, able to adopt different accents and behave as a professional in order to play different roles for infiltration and espionage... And then in the 2010s DC went "Nah, female Deadpool who farts a lot!"
@@WhiteManOnCampus I completely agree.
@@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight This. She was never only a henchwoman, she had her own interests and she was capable enough to follow them. And although she was loyal to Magneto you always felt she was only there bc she wanted to. When in the end of the last movie it was teased that mutant powers would return the most interesting thing for me was what Mystique will do now, will she confront Magneto?!.
To this day the recast is my biggest issue with x-men, but her story was all but annihilated after that too, so... Funny how Magneto in First Class says she shouldn't spend half her energy on pretending to be something else, implying her future development and growing acceptance of herself, but she never actually follows this advice (bc the blue make up looks ridiculous on her probably). Romijn's Mystique never had to be told anything, she was fully developed personality by the time we met her in the movies - and made an incredibly interesting character at that.
Sophie Turner and Jennifer Lawrence were the embodiment of "contractual obligation".
Both meh actresses....
@Andrew Salter I'd like to think Maisie (Arya) has potential and Jack (Joffrey) seemed like a natural but he said other than GoT he has no interest in acting. Shame.
And both mediocre to bad actresses.
fuck sophie turner remember what she said about got fans
@@xarmanhsh2981 True she complained that people were disrespecting the actors by not liking season 8 even though the acting wasn’t the problem
Only x-men can rewrite history 57 different times.
Terminator franchise: am I a joke to you?
I was your 100th like.
....your welcome
57 different times , differently too.
Heinz: Excuse me???
One for every precept of Zote.
Jean uses the Phoenix Force to kill Apocalypse.
8 years later:
Jean gets the Phoenix Force.
I know they really Fucked it up... But I honestly like Dark Phoenix better then X-Men Last Standing
It feels like they just said fuck it to continuity lmao, its like every single character got amnesia and forgot what happened in the past movies.
Abusive Grandfather finally someone else that actually likes last stand. The only time I didn’t like it was when they played it so many times on tv.
That's actually a common misconception. She always had the phoenix force & the space fart just unlocked it. It's like her true potential. It does seem like a continuity error, though.
@@solongsuicide9 in the movie are explicit that the space fart is the phoenix
"...but when she goes Dark Phoenix mode she just reminds me of Mark Zuckerberg trying to pretend he's a human..."
I love you.
“You are no match for my style”
-Dark Phoenix
Zuckerberg
Poor Michael Fassbender!!! The perfect Magneto wasted
Yeap 🤷♂️
@SmashStomp Inc its alot like how in a previous X-Men movie they hired Ryan Reynolds and sewed his mouth shut to play Deadpool the first time. That's like hiring James Earl Jones to play a mute.
Arthas Menethil What’s the damn point of having Deadpool if he’s not saying LOLRANDOM stuff the entire time?
SmashStomp Inc Like Mark Strong being a perfect Sinestro in a mediocre Green Lantern movie
Matthew Shafer Man I feel bad for him...fuckin great actor with wasted potential in these stupid movies
I'm not ready to give up McAvoy and Fassbender as Charles and Erik. They had the chemistry, they really felt like put effort into these movies, especially first class and days of future past were exceptional, but even in apocalypse... I mean... can't we keep them?
@Bro Wit Glasses I mean, this could have many reasons. Maybe he just didn't like where the franchise was going. But I don't really have hope either.
@@alexz4752 Yes, they really did. I couldn't even watch those movies if it wasn't for them... and well, Isaac may be a good actor, but the overall design of Apocalypse and the scenery (filming in daylight.... in Ausschwitz..... the whole fight scene in daylight, Apocalypse just didn't look good) really destroyed it. Kinda sad, actually.
@Aron Maddocks oof. I still hope that it's just a stupid rumour... but with the direction Disney is going atm (I mean.. they completely stomped Star wars into the ground) it might be true. I don't know what I'd do if it was.
Also, it is 100% appropriate to call her "Sansa" - no way she's ever getting away from that.
Ever.
Not unless she suddenly learns how to act
She needs to disappear for a decade and come back with a new look and some actual acting skills.
A stupid girl with stupid dreams who never learn.
@@lannisterfilth Jesus dude did she not call you back or something? Why the vitriol
@@kikiza123 It's her line as Sansa from GoT, dingus.
I’ll give this film one compliment: it finally put the nail the coffin to end our suffering
You’re not a fan of the X-Men comics?
@@agentofchaos7456 It’s not about the comics. I mean it finally ended this futile prequel saga they were using to extend this franchise.
@@KizaruB The prequel series was over before the movie even stared filming. Then was meant to be the last one and a possible Phoenix sequel with the original cast.
Until New Mutants which was like pissing on that coffin
@@agentofchaos7456 of your a fan of a comics then thats more of a reason to not want them to butcher it as for me I'm more of the 90s cartoon fan
This guy is such a good movie reviewer, just imagine how good he'd be if he was sober.
He was totally sober in this review. This was the most sober review I have ever watched from him!
@@jamiebraswell5520 probably because of how bad the movie was and how he cant comprehend how hard the directors of this "movie" had a hard time adapting a comic it had dialogue, a story, and even drawn pictures to follow through!
think about DC's Sixpack. If he were to be sober he wouldn't be pulling off those amazing stunts and powers.
😂😂😂😂. That cracked me up!!
Like a WoW BFA brewmaster without booze
so . . . Michael Fassbender is _again_ the lone ray of light in a charmless, dark void of junk? he isn't paid nearly enough, him.
Junk? Question: did you think that Jean was suffering from PTSD throughout the movie?
Yeshua okay? lmao tf is your point?
@@nickswanson2124 My point is: was he judging the movie on its own merits aks- do he recognize what the movie is trying to do and judge whether it found success in its endeavors? Seems like a lot people didn’t.
@@agentofchaos7456 And here I am, thinking that a crap story, bad writing and weak and arrogant characters are, well, just a crap story, bad writing and weak and arrogant characters.
@@Furzkampfbomber Arrogant?
The only things I'll miss are mcavoy, fassbender and jackman
Ricky Shiffer But thats from the OG X-men, he might be talking about the *Younger* version of them. With Fassbender and Mcavoy as Magneto and Xavier
@@freerealestate6531 precisely
Unusual ByDefault sweet
As weird as it sounds I'll miss the old X-men. They were very uneven movies to say the least, but when they got it right they really got it right. Now they will be assimilated into the MCU and they will be just another series of bland superhero movies. I'll take 3 really good and 3 terrible movies over 6 bland and forgetable movies all day every day.
@@IronFreakV I think we all can agree on that. But with the MCU budget we might get cooler movies too though... who knows
Ill miss McAvoy, Fassbender, Jackman and Peters the most. I wish they came to the MCU
Jackman’s coming to the MCU btw
When Mystique dies I can't help thinking that Jennifer Lawrence's reaction was the same as the old man in the bowels of the Exxon Valdez in Waterworld when the flare is dropped in, "oh thank god".
Provider be praised...
Damn I love that scene in Waterworld. Probably the only entertaining scene in the movie. Nostalgia Critic pretty much sums it up in his review.
JL was so done with these movies, that's why she wears less and less blue makeup as the movies go on. She was still a nobody in First Class so she was doing the full body suit and blue makeup shit, then when the Hunger Games made her a big deal she apparently had more weight to throw around so she had less and less blue makeup scenes.
@@21Arrozito so what you’re saying is, compared to Rebecca Romijn, Jennifer Lawrence is a pussy?
@Joakim Otamaa
I liked Waterworld. I actually liked it better than „Mad Max“
jennifer lawrence is the most uninteresting on-screen presence ever, regardless of the movie.
Still love Fassbender tho.
She's super overrated. The only reason *any* of us know who she is, is because she pogo stick'd Harvey Weinstein's weener.
She’s good in Mother
EVER
But at least there's still pictures of her vag and b-hole on the internet. She's not a good actress but she does look like she could be the cute chick that works at Jamba Juice that you might have a chance with if only you ate less carbs and did more sit-ups.
@@ilovechickenadobo6962
And many wonder why women act entitled...
The actors of Prof.X and Magneto looks so done with this franchise
Which is a shame as both Fastbender and MacAvoy are great version of them
If you think about it, other than x men, mcavoy and fassbender don't have any other roles that have the same popularity as professor x and magneto. Even if they did get lucky enough got involved into a film or series based on popular culture (narnia, assasin's creed, it, alien, etc.), those movies are more of a failure than success.
@@marvell2192 oh well David from Alien.
And yes you can for sure sense my sarcasm in this sentence.
Fun facts:
Both of The actors of Professor X and Magneto either Old version (Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen) and Young version (James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender) are best friends in real life
Dark Phoenix: "we killed the X-Men"
New Mutants: "hello......."
More like "you can't die yet"
Nah it's like repeatedly stabbing a dead body
Me “who are you?”
New mutants “😧”
@@megkrish7568 and fucking it raw
New mutants dug the grave up and spit on it, then they left it there for dr Frankenstein (Disney) to revive and hopefully turn it into a good monster
With their yellow-on-black jumpsuits, they all look like security and engineering crew members on Star Trek: Voyager.
So, very 90's.
Exactky how it is supposed to be.
So very X-Men, right out of the comic books...
Wouldn't it been nice to see the Xmen in their Original costumes-at least once-especially Wolverine? Heck they hinted to that in the Wolverine movie in Japan.
@@josepharcher9620 that's actually one thing i liked about the 2000 X-Men movie, those goofy leather body suits were actually pretty cool even if they couldnt bend their knees or elbows.
They all look like they are wearing bra’s on the outside of their clothing.
I got five minutes in before I realized you were talking about a real movie.
So, this is what happened to the X-Men... that sucks
Reshoots and delays ruined the movie, the studios are to blame for this. Same thing happened to SS and JL. What a shame, we got 4 bad superhero movies out of 4 this year.
And no, it has not been "killed", that is hyperbolic bullshit to get views.
Shush babe. This movie sucks, but you’ll be ok 👍🏻
“You should change the name to X-Women”
Me: *Can you don’t...*
X WOMEN. Not x PEOPLE. For equality
kaiser broze that whole line almost made my lungs jump out my body
#metoo 😀😁😂
Ananda Roy an entitled white dude wrote that, genius
X trans bi-han women
Not only was the movie trash, they STILL to this day after all these years can't give the X Men MEMORABLE outfits!!!
I’ve never understood the interest in Sansa, she’s got nothing going on. She’s in the same boat as the chick from the Divergent series. Generic.
she could play "ice queen" characters well since shes so cold and wooden, but for an emotional charcater like Phoenix she's just too bland and one dimensional,
Yeah, Shaliene Woodley's career just nosedived after the Divergent series flopped!
@@NexusKin it's interesting that so many charismatic people are trying to break into acting and then someone like her pops up.
yeah you guys don't know about Big little lies obviously.. the divergent girl is an amazing actress
@zerocooltx that makes sense. Maybe she's one of these kids that was forced in front of the camera by her parents and it's really not her thing. I got nothing against her as a human being just an actress.
"She absorbs the radiation from the cosmic space fart and this gives her super powers, where have I seen that before?"
The fantastic 4? Hulk?
Hulk transformation was a gamma ray experiment on earth, which is similar to Jessica Jones or Luke Cage , fantastic 4 is more like this version of Phoenix..
X-Wahmen: The Days of Future Failures
Stunning and brave.
Featuring Brie Larson!
X- woke origins:Wokeverine.
TS 112 so original do you anti sjw clowns have any original to say other than overused glossary used by other anti sjw idiots
I know, right?
Even though the Dark Phoenix story in 'Last Stand' changed the origin, at least it wasn't full of that Marxist bullsht.
The Mystique of the original trilogy is way better than Jenifer Laurence mystique
Jennifer Lawrence was great
I say that of every single character
Sad to say but even though Rebecca Romijn doesn't really say that much I have to agree. She was actually a badass in her own kind of unique way.
@@johntabler349 michael fassbenders magneto was really dope, at least in first class, they just fucked up the writing for him
He was not bad I just preferred the original
"I'm full of cosmic space fart energy" should be on a tshirt
FINALLY! Somone who recognises Turner is a subpar actress who's got by on her parent's wealth and her looks alone.
@@mainstream2226 She got looks, let's not deny that.
@@mainstream2226 You know what, you're right. But apparently a lot of the world are into the bulldog-chewing-on-a-wasp look
@@lannisterfilth Looks like a smacked arse lad.
@@mainstream2226 I kind of agree with you. She’s plain Jane looking to me.
She should have stuck with modelling...lol lol that's the problem these days- they keep letting the beautiful people talk!!
Dude the abusive relationship analogy was spot on. Let us know if you need to talk lol.
Yeah no kidding, it was a viciously abusive relationship. First it drew us in with X men 1 and 2. Then it got drunk and went apeshit with a frying pan upside our heads with the last stand and origin wolverine. Then it went to rehab, promised us it was never going to happen again with first class and days of futures past. Then it fell off the wagon got drunk and beat us upside the head with a sock housing a couple of rolls of quarters with the last two shit shows.
RedLetterMedia already made that analogy with the Star Wars prequels lol love the analogy nonetheless
Speaking of RLM, I sum up Dark Phoenix as this: it’s like going to your daughter’s stupid college graduation. You know it’s gonna suck but you gotta go anyways to get it over with..... actually fuck that metaphor. It’s like an autopsy: you know it’s dead, but you gotta do an autopsy anyways to see who or what killed it.
Ryan Arment lol
It's amazing to think that despite two big screen attempts, the 90s cartoon still has the best adaptation of the Dark Phoenix Saga!
It also did Apocalypse far better as well!
And they screwed it up so badly on film twice that the MCU will have to wait forever to do it right, to get the bad taste out of our mouths first. Luckily no one saw Dark Phoenix, so that helps.
I’ve come to believe that superheroes just work better in animation. I mean, compare the modern DCEU to the DCAU of the 90s and 2000s.
I wanna keep McAvoy and Fassbender, everyone else can be recast lmao
Those two are they only good things these films had going for them.
Me too. It breaks my heart that they ruin the franchise with those perfect actors
Evan peters was good too
Agreed.
Agreed 👌🏻👌🏻
This guy's so good, so biting, so honest, well done
It took me about 8 minutes to realise that he kept saying "Sansa Stark" and not Jean Grey
Might be best to leave the drinking to Critical from now on.
He's saying Santa... A reference to him saying she's been a bad Santa at the start of the video
@@enigmalfidelity he is clearly saying Sansa.
AuDiO_JacK
you have never seen GOT you dumbass niggga
My "favorite" scene was when Jennifer Lawrence's Mystique said they should rename the group to X-Women because the women are always saving the men, right after the guys had to save her because she was too stupid to do anything right. That's actually where I stopped watching.
Didn’t Sansa flash her Phoenix powers at the end of the _Apocalypse_ movie?
so, ever going to explain that?
No didn’t think so LuL
Kinberg chose to completely ignore that even though he's the one who wrote it.
It's just another error In a long line of them in this error filled series
Because he sucks as a director.
Reminds me of the final season of GoT when every episode starts with the script of the previous episode and says "actually that didn't happen..."
I didn’t even think about that. Very observant.
The only possible explanation is that she already had those powers & the phoenix force simply brought them out of her & amplified them, but the whole thing is really just a continuity error. The director obviously just wanted the end of Apocalypse to be an easter egg to Dark Phoenix, regardless of it making absolutely no sense. Nothing more than a "Hey, guys, guess what we're doing next? 💥🦅🔥 HINT HINT" moment to get people hyped up for the next film.
I love that he keeps calling her Sansa... ROFL
Lmaoooooo
henmich Ha just posted the same exact thing.
How easily some are amused
Darren Gordon-Hill I like anything that makes fun of any asshat actor who is overly self important and shits on the fans. Sansa certainly meets those two qualifications.
@Klausbärbel Fömm
Anyone that's seen multiple Johnny Depp movies can refer to him by a multitude of his character's names...
I really dislike Sophie Turner and Jennifer Lawrence. They're overrated.
Nic Rock That’s the only reason we know their names
they are not hot, saiorse ronan is hot, emma watson is hot, jennifer and sophie are both solid 7
All the Trannywood "actresses" are ugly compared to what you can find on the internet these days.
Whether that's 2D or 3D.
@@Wilma_Dickfit_huh Incredibly hot? What have you been in solitary confinement for 20 years?
Sophie Turner can play cold "ice queen" characters well but sticking her in a role like Pheonix, a woman who's supposed to have uncontrollable emotions, is playing against any of her strong suits. It's like having James Earl Jones play a mute, he can do it but it goes against his best talents.
With how fast Quicksilver has been shown to be. As in, the instant an explosion went off, he rounded up an entire mansion full of kids and put them outside... and he was pissing about whilst doing it.
They had to nerf him so hard.
I don't care how powerful Jean is psychicly. Quicksilver would have downed her within, like, an 8th of a picosecond. Jean ain't reacting to that 😂
I never really understood how Jean moved the debris so quickly... .-.
@@irisbutterfly4845 Exactly. Yeah, she can literally tear things apart atomically, but she is still very much human with pretty average reaction times.
"You know we should start calling it X-Women" --- A paid Hollywood writer
The Incredible Adventures of the XX-Wimmenz!
*X - People
I just want to go back to the early 2000s and before where people didnt have to have a political agenda in media
I know right I felt ill when she said that
@@ryans6309 Errr you for real? Have you ever watched Fox News? Picked up a Rupert Murdoch shitrag? Media has been politicised long before the 2000s mate and any claim to the contrary is either ignorance or a bold faced lie.
I want a "Nah, It'll Be Fine" tshirt plz
What she said!
"Go away now" on the back please.
@@marcom.4847 what this guy said 😳
i dont normally buy youtuber merch.... but id buy that shirt, add a bunch of badly drawn pics of those actors and put that caption, then we are good to go
Carla M. Me too. That would be more epic than this movie. By light years.
One more time, MYSTIQUE IS NOT THE DAMN LEADER OF THE X-MEN!!! WTF Fox?!?
You have issues with women in leadership roles? Better keep that mysoginy in check there. I mean, who else should be leader? Cyclops?
@@Ayy_Doll_Fiddler uh, fucking xavier?
@@Ayy_Doll_Fiddler I am convinced this is sarcasm
@@Ayy_Doll_Fiddler not a fucking woman lol
@@dannylavoie5253 Not a fucking woman indeed
A coworker of mine said that this was her favorite movie of all time. No, I’m not even remotely kidding nor did she hesitate when saying it. I was absolutely floored
Maybe it was the second movie she has watched in her life, first one being Captain Marvel or something.
@@grimwaltzmanhahaha
Thats kinda how I felt when someone at work once told me they thought Iron fist was their favorite of the Netflix marvel shows. I
"Like Mark Zuckerberg pretending hes a human" omfg I think I just died! Lmfao
brent engle “he’s not fooling anyone”
#DataMining
I actually crack louder than I should have alone in my office and now everything think I'm mad 😂😂
It's been a meme for a while now.....
Is it Zukerbot or Zukerdroid?
Xmen franchice: look I made a new movie.
Me: Just look at the flowers...
This franchise ended with Logan back in 2017.......NUFF SAID
OAN: the animated series from 1992 to 1997 did it BETTER
@Emperor Ssraeshza I have to disagree with you on that...having Sir Mr Stewart as Prof. X was light years better than whoever it was that voiced him in TAS. While usually he sounded...mostly normal, there were many times where it was like nails-on-chalkboard.
But yeah, most everything else TAS did better.
for me it ended with Days of Future Past
The truly sad thing is we never even got to see The Phoenix; that good super-heroine develop, and come to love her before her ultimate fall.
That is literally what Jean was in this movie. She isn't the Dark Phoenix until at the very end.
Imagine an alternate universe where Bryan Singer never took back control of the franchise after the unexpected success of First Class, and we got to see where the team which brought us that film wanted to take the characters.
Omfg the side by side of zuccerburg and Data I literally lost my shit lmao
You shit yourself?
That was a hilarious comparison!
@The Slow Bro data is far more human.
me too
Timestamp
Stark Phoenix and the Cosmic Space Fart.
Omg! Your comment is funny !! Haha good one..
Fart penis.
I was so excited for Gambit. One of my all time favorite characters from the show. They just... Sigh. RIP Gambit. I'll miss you.
Edit: The dark Phoenix saga from the 90's was amazing...and they just decide to completely rewrite it for... Reasons? O.o
Best thing about the movie was the soundtrack, my first thought was that the soundtrack deserved a better movie.
Hans Zimmer, an absolute saint.
Hans Zimmer is a rather generic film composer overall. Most all of his work sounds the same.
@@jamiebraswell5520 you clearly never listened to the Interstellar OST, have you?
@@ericschuster2680 interstellar parking
6:51
Personally, I think it's the reverse.
Acting ability took a hiatus from Jennifer Lawrence.
🤨
"Prepare to have your X-Pectations subverted...."
We see what you did there.
Trying to smash the McAvoy and Stewart timelines together is like hammering a square peg into a round hole.
I will just pretend that the Fox/X-Men Franchise ended with Days of Future Past and Logan.
Days of future past was shit tho
Agreed!
I always instinctively get drunk before watching your videos
I literally just started a cup of cointreau
👍
It's the best way to view them, really
The drunker you are the better his videos are
I just make sure I’m always drunk so I’m ready at all times
I can't not see all of Sophie Turner's characters as emotional messes
Maybe they were all _written_ as complete messes and she just *nails it!*
@@jarrod752 Or maybe it's the only kind of character she can play convincingly.
@Black Ninja Nah, she really didn't. She's extremely one dimensional
I love how this guy totally embraces the manners of a drunk guy who reviews movies. Not trying to be kind or looking for redeeming qualities like most reviews. Just fully destroying the film. I love it.
What the hell are they wearing!?
Party City has better X-men costumes omg😞
What would you prefer yellow spandex oh I feel the cringe 20 years later
The best thing about the movie, Jennifer Lawrence mystique dies early on;)
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@ Link?
The thing that pissed me off was that Jean, who isn't at all that familiar with Magneto in the Apocalypse film, has more screen time with Magneto than Quicksilver does, HIS SON. And then, he was just nonexistent for like, majority of the film.
8:00 You reminding us that Mark Zuckerberg isn't a human made my day.
Thanks!
I die a little bit inside every time he says “cosmic space fart”
Man they started (rebounded) well with First Class and Days of Future Past after X3...
... but it went downhill again with these past two movies.
How do you manage to make a mistake in writing when the source material is literally already written and loved, and has been for years?! It's like fucking up being born, at 10 years of age.
The movie was meant to be the first part of a duology but the merger resulted in the sequel being axed and it was re-edited to remove plot threads that were meant to be expanded on in sequels. The film is actually faithful to the earlier segments of the saga.
The Drinker usually makes me laugh out loud with his reviews but this one had my crying with laughter. Likening an XMen movie to an abusive relationship lol That will never get old!
*Actually, if he was "a young boy" in WW-II, he'd be in his 70s, not 60s. 60s (me) were kids during Korea.*
The movie is set in 1992
It would be in their 50's since it's set in 1992. That was 28 years ago now, they'd be in their late 70's NOW not back then.
@@animeangel1983 *I didn't realize this was set in 1992. You are correct then. Thanks for the correction!*
X1
X2
FC
DOFP
LOGAN
THAT'S IT.
Pretty much, though Apocalypse's slow mo scene and the mind battle between Xavier and Oscar Isaacs are good looking scenes. Really like Deadpool movies too. The Wolverine was okay 'til he goes to Japan. The bridge scene and end battle of The Last Stand were cool. So something nice everywhere. Dark Phoenix has Fassbender so that's the only compliment for that and I'm not going to say anything about Origins... These movies are mostly just backing noise for me whenever I get too bored.
Deadpool is its own thing so I'm okay with this
The Wolverine (2013) is a good movie.
@Matty Jay You just need attention, don't ya?
M. Jackson The Wolverine?
When Jennifer Larence went 'We should be called x women and not x men.'
I said it was a time for the drinker. When they tried turning x into the villain at points in the film, seemed a little crazy. I basically tuned out after this was said.
X was one of my favourite characters in x men (aside from Hugh Jackman and quick ). All of his hope and how he was able to 'be the light' for magneto and just hope and forgiveness and his character in general. This movie just shat him out and was made into this horrible character who was only into it for himself or how he just turned into this angry dude in a wheelchair who just seemed to be weak. 7:13...
Also, the fact that with the addition of Logan contradicting DOFP, really making this theme is that hope and ideals are pointless.
jean: uses phoenix to kill apocalyose
also jean: absorbs phoenix
wutt!?????😳😳😳😳😳
Who said it was Phoenix? It doesn’t look nor it was called that.
Your voice sounds like you're tryna push out a massive sh*t the whole video! 😂
That being said, you make very solid points 👍
He's trying not to LOSE his shit while talking about this shit movie.
He sounds like Korg
He’s trying to make the video 10 minutes long by talking super slowly
Overly solid points are an indication of a lack of fiber so perhaps that's what you're picking up on
@@dankwarmouse6248 many lolz at this xD
Jennifer Lawrence is taking a break from acting?
Since when does she act?
Lol she's good in sliver linings playbook and American hustle.
'Winter's Bone' is the only film I've seen where I found her truly compelling. She should have won her oscar for that. I will never fathom how she won best actress for a role that was supporting at best.
Uhm.. Mother! ?
She was good in Mother
Starstuff85 Weinstein set her up for her Oscar. She is heavily alleged as being one of his “girls”
The person who screen writes Magnetos use of power when fighting deserves some credit. He is the only one who uses his powers to the max effectiveness, well nightcrawler did too when attacking the white house haha
Should be called "Even worse captain marvel"
i felt kind of dumb becuase a saw some scenes from the trailer awhile back and thought this and Captain Marvel were the same movie. I cant wait for this "poorly executed girl power instead of a good movie" trend dies. It's depressing that my Little Pony did a better job at girl power using Adobe Flash and a few B list voice actors than this movie could do with the finest special effects and some A list star power.
Oh, Captain Marvel is a way more competently made movie
2:32 So she remembers all the bad stuff, but doesn't remember the good things? How convenient...
Lmao mystique looks like james cameron avatar 😂 that wig is just nah. 2000 mystique was 🔥
You mean Stamos? Yeah that's a repressed idea now. Having sexy female characters that are actually clever and interesting. But not know-it-alls who never fail at anything.
@@tokiwartooth4404 that's a hallmark of lazy girl power episodes. Good girl power are things like Powerpuff girls and MLP, interesting female leads who have flaws but get the job done. Bad girl power is a Mary Sue lead who's better than all the boys and cant stop rubbing their noses in it for that fact.
@@arthas640 Anime.
Also Jaina, Sylvanas, and Tyrande in Warcraft 3. Among the other female characters like Maiev.
I hate WoW because of the monetization, but WC3 is an 11/10 game.
@@tokiwartooth4404 I've been going by "Arthas" since Warcraft 3 came out and never liked WoW. It's an ok game but it inspired an endless flood of shitty MMOs that continue to this day. I hate MMOs on principal since they are mostly pay to win crap. I miss story driven RTSs like warcraft
@@arthas640 Oh I know. MMOs could have potential if they weren't all about recurring revenue.
WoW ruined gaming and led us to where we are now.
Activision gutted Blizzard. Reforged is a f'ing joke with paid skins to come. Most features are not working correctly, but we know that the Cash Shop will always be in working order.
They killed the custom map community for Reforged already.
The modders are sticking with classic disc version. Thankfully!
WoW is the catalyst for Fallout 76 and games like that.
I find it funny that Mystique's makeup got less believable over the years.
When you count a superb character not being there as a positive thing then you know you made a shit, not a movie