@@CalvinAwesome sure, Reading kits is the boring bit, but it's also where the magic happens. One of my guildies went up against a monster QGJ GAR (Galactic Republic) jedi team last GAC, or it would have been if QGJ had been in the lead. As it was, easy win
@@meglobob9217 some of them, sure, but 'use only sith empire for best results' is awfully close to 'touch nothing but the lamp', in terms of complexity. You're off course free to ignore if, but that's on you
QGJ - One semi-mistake I've seen fairly often with oQGJ teams is putting Jolee and/or JKR on them. Not only does it turn off multiple "all GR" synergies as mentioned in the video, you're also gimping a large part of their kits. Since QGJ's omicron prevents him from reviving, both JKR's Savior and Jolee's mass revive lose a lot of their functionality. (Jolee can occasionally pull off a surprise revive of JKA to turn the tide but more often than not the attacking player can play around this and you're still losing way more than you're gaining) SK Absolute weirdest comp I came across recently was OB/MJ/SK (fine so far) with Mon Mothma and Hondo (wtf?). All I could do was scratch my head then say "thanks for turning off your omicron". Wampa - I'm pretty sure it's only the specific sentence with the "no allies" statement that gets turned off when other toons are included with Wampa. So you lose most of the various stat boosts but still get: the +100% Tenacity, as well the various effects on being damaged (unresistable DoTs, cooldown reduction and stacking Tenacity) Still not something I'd recommend doing in general (*though see below), but at least not a complete waste/turning off of the omicron. And I can see certain cases where it might be appropriate as part of some weird defense comp (assuming you scout your opponent and find they typically set a non-Wampa-able defense so you're not really losing that strong offensive tool). *One thing I've experienced a few times is not taking some of these "mistake" teams quite seriously enough, stretching a weaker counter too far and only killing part of the team, then suddenly facing something way stronger than expected for cleanup. For example, one time there was an oWampa placed with a DR squad. I took in fairly weak Troopers and was able to mostly kill off the team but wasn't able to seal the deal and finish Wampa. And suddenly there was a super hard toon to handle that I got stuck on. Another time there was a typical broken o Iden team with Dark Trooper. I forget what I used but had to focus on Dark fairly early due to the damage threat, ended up failing with only a partial win then suddenly there was half an oIden team preloaded with the omi turned back on. It's probably a very rare corner case that won't happen much, but still something to keep in mind when facing these teams.
Funny thing about Wampa, seen a full sith team with Wampa(with omi) in it . Somehow I killed everyone ,but Wampa . After 1st try Wampa omi came in use and couldn't kill her at all :D
I have malgus and malak relic 5 and I didn't even bother to read their kits! now I know I have to find another home for my relic 5 HK-47, thanks brother!
My favourite is when I am putting together an empire team for offence and I click the toons too fast and put TIE defender in first instead of TIE bomber because it's higher GP and then I enter battle and go "oh shit where is my bomber oh shit what is my defender doing there" and then I get dismantled by the opposing fleet
About Old Ben, I don’t disagree at all but wanted to note that in his kit, he receives 5% TM when another Jedi receives damage. Have to factor in for some counters. I didn’t once when I used an empire team and Old Ben managed to get ability blocks screwing up my counter.
We kind of have that now it just might need some adjustments. There's a green/red circle when you're putting the squad together. It's just not smart enough to pick up some of pigeon holing the kits have nowadays
Excellent video! It's hard to keep up with every kit reveal post/video. Great video idea for casual players! -- I don't have Maglus yet so also good to note that DRevan needs all Sith Empire,
@@CalvinAwesome I must have made someone feel they needed to prove you right because my opponent yesterday in K2 had HK variant and DT w/ Iden. That's how you lose to someone with 3mil fewer GP folks!
About the Rey team: malak doesnt ruin the revive thing, bc it is in the omicron section. However, judging by the way his force dyad skill is worded, i'm inclined to say that the only thing that gets ruined here is oneshot immunity, bc the "rey cant be defeated & ben cant be defeated" thing comes only in the next sentence. I might be wrong, but i get the impression that if not meeting the condition ruined this part, it would have been put into the first sentence too, or there would be words like "also" . and tbh if this is the case i think malak in the rey team is kinda justifiable because other ben's things are cool of course but he is mostly just used for his revive cheese
It stops the juggling of Rey and Ben's health where you can't kill Ben until Ray is half, and can't kill Rey when Ben is alive. That part is also invalidated
I believe you're incorrect about mon mothma. You didn't read the kit properly. It says if she is in the leader slot, that's the only requirement, then, she and all rebel fighter allies do the combined Stat share. You can have 1 rebel fighter ally and 3 rebel and it will still share its just a considerably smaller Stat pool. I do this all the time. I have the world's 1st relic 9 Biggs and no I'm not joking. It was for my fleet when home one was wiping executor for me before profundity was even a thing. His power goes through the roof when I have a full rebel fighter team.
I faced a broken iden team with a tie pilot. But my wampa did lose since the tie pilot has a tenacity down on basic, and he got stunned and beat from there. Makes me think tie pilot should have the imperial trooper tag.
I suppose for defense, but I actually really love Nute under GG. His unique that deals max health damage from a debuff means that GG leads generates 2x the amount of TM. That makes GG counter CLS, BB8 won't do that.
I'm one of the guys who put Dark Troopers and Gideon with my Iden. I'm only level 74, but thanks for bringing that to my attention. Obviously, I still have a shit ton to learn, but that's great to know. I always thought the wording was weird for her unique description, but you described it simply and easily to the point I feel dumb for overthinking it.
Iden only loses the bonus turn and revive if you put in tfp. And you gain tenacity down. If you set iden and have executor then definitely put tfp on the team.
@@CalvinAwesome personally I feel he fits with EP/MJ best, the leadership gives extra health, EP has shock on basic, MJ has it on a special, when he inflicts a debuff he recovers health, so he gains health when being critted because he applies fear
@@CalvinAwesome Revan even negates Malak's kit because the Tenacity and Defense down on ferocity and because some reason he attacks feared opponents twice when you want them to be feared
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I feel like a lot of problems could be solved by people properly reading the kits
That's definitely true, but I can honestly understand people opting out given how many things there are to read now.
Each ones longer then the Encyclopedia Britannica though and CG often word things so your non the wiser how it actually works...
@@CalvinAwesome sure, Reading kits is the boring bit, but it's also where the magic happens. One of my guildies went up against a monster QGJ GAR (Galactic Republic) jedi team last GAC, or it would have been if QGJ had been in the lead. As it was, easy win
@@meglobob9217 some of them, sure, but 'use only sith empire for best results' is awfully close to 'touch nothing but the lamp', in terms of complexity. You're off course free to ignore if, but that's on you
@@StevenJQuinlan now I'm gonna be sat here trying to figure who gar is. Swgoh players really love their acronyms
QGJ
- One semi-mistake I've seen fairly often with oQGJ teams is putting Jolee and/or JKR on them. Not only does it turn off multiple "all GR" synergies as mentioned in the video, you're also gimping a large part of their kits. Since QGJ's omicron prevents him from reviving, both JKR's Savior and Jolee's mass revive lose a lot of their functionality. (Jolee can occasionally pull off a surprise revive of JKA to turn the tide but more often than not the attacking player can play around this and you're still losing way more than you're gaining)
SK
Absolute weirdest comp I came across recently was OB/MJ/SK (fine so far) with Mon Mothma and Hondo (wtf?). All I could do was scratch my head then say "thanks for turning off your omicron".
Wampa
- I'm pretty sure it's only the specific sentence with the "no allies" statement that gets turned off when other toons are included with Wampa. So you lose most of the various stat boosts but still get: the +100% Tenacity, as well the various effects on being damaged (unresistable DoTs, cooldown reduction and stacking Tenacity) Still not something I'd recommend doing in general (*though see below), but at least not a complete waste/turning off of the omicron. And I can see certain cases where it might be appropriate as part of some weird defense comp (assuming you scout your opponent and find they typically set a non-Wampa-able defense so you're not really losing that strong offensive tool).
*One thing I've experienced a few times is not taking some of these "mistake" teams quite seriously enough, stretching a weaker counter too far and only killing part of the team, then suddenly facing something way stronger than expected for cleanup. For example, one time there was an oWampa placed with a DR squad. I took in fairly weak Troopers and was able to mostly kill off the team but wasn't able to seal the deal and finish Wampa. And suddenly there was a super hard toon to handle that I got stuck on. Another time there was a typical broken o Iden team with Dark Trooper. I forget what I used but had to focus on Dark fairly early due to the damage threat, ended up failing with only a partial win then suddenly there was half an oIden team preloaded with the omi turned back on. It's probably a very rare corner case that won't happen much, but still something to keep in mind when facing these teams.
Funny thing about Wampa, seen a full sith team with Wampa(with omi) in it . Somehow I killed everyone ,but Wampa . After 1st try Wampa omi came in use and couldn't kill her at all :D
Oh I've seen that once, it's terrible
For folks without the Wampa omicron, a leader (Ben/Farmboy/JTR + Wampa + Wat) is quite reasonable.
I have malgus and malak relic 5 and I didn't even bother to read their kits! now I know I have to find another home for my relic 5 HK-47, thanks brother!
50rty or Aphra are both pretty good!
Some good tips 👍👍
Thank you! Let me know if there's any other videos like these you'd like to see
its surprising how often Old Ben and/or Ezra still find their way into the QGJ team, but I’m happy when i see it!
Bonus!
My favourite is when I am putting together an empire team for offence and I click the toons too fast and put TIE defender in first instead of TIE bomber because it's higher GP and then I enter battle and go "oh shit where is my bomber oh shit what is my defender doing there" and then I get dismantled by the opposing fleet
Thanks man, just found your channel by luck, helped me a lot so far in FTP!
Awesome man! Love to hear it
My personal go-to is Hux capital ship with BH ships. Really brings out the banners for my opponent.
lol oh that one hurts
About Old Ben, I don’t disagree at all but wanted to note that in his kit, he receives 5% TM when another Jedi receives damage. Have to factor in for some counters. I didn’t once when I used an empire team and Old Ben managed to get ability blocks screwing up my counter.
Moral of the story is: Star Wars Galaxy of Reading :)
100%
Top button closed… bold choice…
Let's see if it plays out cotton
Maybe you can do a part 2 of the correct teams to put together
Swgoh players are turning into yu gi oh players. Screw reading just wing it.
Full send
Yugioh players are notorious for…. Not reading
Would be an interesting quality of life feature to have an alert when something conflicts with synergies
We kind of have that now it just might need some adjustments.
There's a green/red circle when you're putting the squad together. It's just not smart enough to pick up some of pigeon holing the kits have nowadays
Geos smash raddus, especially if Hera is there over k2, like I did today in gac
This is what I've been wondering with all teams just cause it says (sith) doesnt mean it goes well
Excellent video! It's hard to keep up with every kit reveal post/video. Great video idea for casual players! -- I don't have Maglus yet so also good to note that DRevan needs all Sith Empire,
Appreciate your feedback! Glad it was helpful
In my last GAC, one opponent put on defense an omi QGJ Team with Fulcrum in it. What was that all about?
Add that to the list
Where is this wonderful world I can find matchups like this?
The HK variant was all the way up in K1 for a minute
@@CalvinAwesome I must have made someone feel they needed to prove you right because my opponent yesterday in K2 had HK variant and DT w/ Iden. That's how you lose to someone with 3mil fewer GP folks!
About the Rey team: malak doesnt ruin the revive thing, bc it is in the omicron section. However, judging by the way his force dyad skill is worded, i'm inclined to say that the only thing that gets ruined here is oneshot immunity, bc the "rey cant be defeated & ben cant be defeated" thing comes only in the next sentence. I might be wrong, but i get the impression that if not meeting the condition ruined this part, it would have been put into the first sentence too, or there would be words like "also" .
and tbh if this is the case i think malak in the rey team is kinda justifiable because other ben's things are cool of course but he is mostly just used for his revive cheese
Yeah I can't remember which thing it turned off, IIRC the wording didn't 100% match the ability
It stops the juggling of Rey and Ben's health where you can't kill Ben until Ray is half, and can't kill Rey when Ben is alive. That part is also invalidated
Do these people not know how to read
Lol they likely know how, they either choose not or don't realize how big of a deal some of them are.
Keeping datacron spcific teams on defense efter the datacron is gone
Ahh yeah that's true.
@CalvinAwesome would say it counts as synergy, but specific to a DC
I believe you're incorrect about mon mothma. You didn't read the kit properly. It says if she is in the leader slot, that's the only requirement, then, she and all rebel fighter allies do the combined Stat share. You can have 1 rebel fighter ally and 3 rebel and it will still share its just a considerably smaller Stat pool. I do this all the time.
I have the world's 1st relic 9 Biggs and no I'm not joking. It was for my fleet when home one was wiping executor for me before profundity was even a thing.
His power goes through the roof when I have a full rebel fighter team.
What you're describing is what I meant. Stat share still happens, you're just limiting to a much smaller pool
@@CalvinAwesome I wasn't trying to be disrespectful. It didn't come across that way at first. No worries. Good job on the video
I faced a broken iden team with a tie pilot. But my wampa did lose since the tie pilot has a tenacity down on basic, and he got stunned and beat from there. Makes me think tie pilot should have the imperial trooper tag.
I remember that was a thing to stop Wampa at some point in time
Yeah that variation slightly has legs, can stop wampa but opens up a ton of other counters.
@Calvin Awesome right! Yeah I think it shows a easier time for savage to beat it. I love stepping on that team when I see moff in it.
yeah the imperial trooper pack includes tie pilot but he doesn't have the trooper tag
@@pxnda69 see, and right
ngl i fell for one or two of these at some point, great vid
why don't you have your email in the about.
...people typically just DM me on discord.
"Darth Malcus" aaaahaa
Lolz
One thing I hate seeing is a Nute under a GG team. Nute is stealing the hp from GG and BB8 is just way better imo.
I suppose for defense, but I actually really love Nute under GG. His unique that deals max health damage from a debuff means that GG leads generates 2x the amount of TM. That makes GG counter CLS, BB8 won't do that.
@@CalvinAwesome Which is nice but I put my GG on defense and use Bute for offense. The ai doesn't always cleanse that extortion.
Bad take nute is great under GG
I'm one of the guys who put Dark Troopers and Gideon with my Iden.
I'm only level 74, but thanks for bringing that to my attention. Obviously, I still have a shit ton to learn, but that's great to know. I always thought the wording was weird for her unique description, but you described it simply and easily to the point I feel dumb for overthinking it.
We've all been there man, glad to help
Iden only loses the bonus turn and revive if you put in tfp. And you gain tenacity down. If you set iden and have executor then definitely put tfp on the team.
Yeah TFP can be okay in some situations
What do you mean you can throw bad characters jnto the qui gon team like luminara. Luminara got an omi cron, no way she can be bad.
Impossible, the archives must be complete
if it isn’t in the archives, it doesn’t exist
I feel like Malak shouldn't be under a Malgus lead, the 80% crit avoid takes away so much from Malak's kit
Where do you think he would be best utilized?
@@CalvinAwesome personally I feel he fits with EP/MJ best, the leadership gives extra health, EP has shock on basic, MJ has it on a special, when he inflicts a debuff he recovers health, so he gains health when being critted because he applies fear
@@CalvinAwesome Revan even negates Malak's kit because the Tenacity and Defense down on ferocity and because some reason he attacks feared opponents twice when you want them to be feared
I don’t even wanna know how many times someone in my guild or an enemy guild leaves Iden with Piett on defense in Tw 🥲
Ooooof yeah two teams right down the toilet