A Chuck To Clamp Them All | Making A Split Jaw Chuck For The Mini Lathe
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- Опубліковано 13 кві 2024
- Special tasks require special tools. I have a lot of workholding options for my lathe but nothing for clamping special parts like thin washers or disks. So I came up with the idea of making myself an 80mm split jaw chuck for my Mini Lathe. This type of lathe chucks is often found on bigger industrial or CNC machines. As far as I know there is no 80mm version of a split jaw chuck available on the market, so I had to make my own.
So I'm modifying in this video an off the shelf 3 jaw chuck into a split jaw version. That means that there are base jaws on which you can screw on all different kinds of top jaws. In my case I made aluminium top jaws which can be adapted to clamp very thin parts.
So in general this type of chuck is extremely versatile and can sometimes be the only option to clamp special or odd shaped parts.
Thanks to: www.ragotzkygaetje.de
Link to the chuck I used:www.spannsysteme-shop.de/drei...
Many thanks to the tool supplier Ragotzky+Gätjen for sending me the chuck and the spare block jaws for free and supporting my work.
Consider their webshop for your next tool purchase: www.ragotzkygaetje.de
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But they were all of them decieved. In the land of Germany, in the Fires of Mount Doom, The Dark Channel 'We Can Do That Better' forged, in secret, a Master Chuck to Clamp all others. And into this chuck they poured their cruelty, their malice and their will to dominate all chucks. One Chuck to Clamp them all.
Haha, well said! Thak you! ;)
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Call Peter Jackson. Maybe a great hint for "The workshop hobbit"
The unicrometer is my favorite guest on this channel.
Thanks ;)
I always thought it was a Llama of some sort 😂
You made a point of achieving a precision fit at the beginning of the video. When you were test fitting the top jaws to the base jaws it triggered a big smile at this end. You know.... The smile of achievement and the satisfaction that it brings. 🖖
Thanks!
Wakodahatchee Chris
I actually laughed and woke the dogs when that washer let go. Man I'm already subscribing. less than 2 minutes in.
Thank you so much for your comment and for subscribing to my channel. I really do appreciate that. Happy to hear you enjoy my work!
Good work as always. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum last week 😎
That was neat for your tiny lathe. Having a full size lathe they make what they call emergency 5-C collets. One for internal holding and one for external. Different size ones. With the larger ones you’ll need a tapered closer to help close the OD. They work awesome. I have several. They are soft so you can bore and reborn. And the others can be returned. They have a screw in the center which pulls to expand the fingers.
Thanks for your comment! Yes, I know them. I guess on my small lathe there is no way of using proper emergency collets. So the chuck has to do the job :)
That was really cool of them to send you another set of soft jaws! Excited to see how you incorporate this chuck into upcoming projects. 👍👍
Yes, that was very kind. I first hesitated to ask again but they were really kind and sent a set again. I have a specific thing in mind for which I need this chuck. We'll see when I manage to finish it.
@4:08 ) Wow, that's pretty cool, and I didn't know, ... that Depeche Mode is still around!!
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Haha :D Well observed ;)
Hell yeah! Soft jaws are super convenient. 👌👍👍
Yes, they are! Thanks!
I went through the same process for my EMCO Compact 5 CNC Chuck, except, Soft jaws are not available for these Chucks, so i made them myself.. having a CNC Mill greatly helps.
So i measured the original jaws, drew them in CAD, and milled new jaws from 1.2510 steel.
i milled a raised "Cross" on top, so i only have to mill a cross in the topjaws, which is way easier..
I too Faced the new Jaws in the lathe, before milling the locating features, then drilled and tapped the holes.
the top jaws were also turned to the same height, after milling the cross and drilling the holes, and i now can clamp very delicate parts, like watchcase backs on only .8 mm, works a treat!..
What's also Cool, For working with Hexbar, you can Mill a hex in the jaws, to firmly grab it
Hi and thanks for your comment! That sounds really cool. You have an Emco Compact 5 CNC? Guess, who too since a few weeks... It will be official soon :) Do you have pictures or a documentation of your chuck build? Sounds really interesting. Would like to see how you did it.
for such small rings like washers to hold it the jaw the notch cut in the jaw should be slightly conical "to the inside" so it gets pushed against the face as you clamp. Your inset cutter would work great to make such notch. Either way cool build!
Hi and thanks for the hint and your feedback! I will keep that in mind. Sounds like a good idea to cut the recess that way.
Nice work
This is the first YT project that I genuinely want to replicate for myself but I can't find the chuck on the site. The only lathe chuck and jaws listed are from Röhm.
At any rate this is great idea. I always wanted soft jaws for my mini lathe and somehow never thought of buying a set and simply modify them to fit my own blocks.
Hi and thanks for your comment! They have an extra webshop for workholding. This is the chuck: www.spannsysteme-shop.de/dreibackenfutter-drehfutter-guss-80-mm-k11-80-spanntechnik.html
@@WeCanDoThatBetter Danke! 👍
measure once, cut twice and it's still too short. Never fails ;-)
I made a set of Acetal soft jaws for my Sherline Late, and just finished them yesterday. Good video.
Nice to hear. It's a good thing to have soft jaws.
Beautiful job. Enjoyed it.
Thank you very much!
Thank you for finding the way on this; I should do the same in my shop.
Thank you very much! Good luck.
nice work!
Cool work thanks 👍
Thank you very much!
Accuracy is impressive!
Thank you very much!
haha dude! you are crackin me up! love it!
Thanks!
High quality stuff as always 👍🏻
Thank you very much!
Really great projekt!
Thank you very much!
Well now i need a milling machine too. Great video thanks
Thank you!
Workholding washers for id or face work can be done with a normal collet chuck- if you slip a longer piece of material the same od as the washer (with a perpendicular turned face) into the collet first
Then push the washer into the collet
Can get really good face runout repeatability but it can be a little fiddly to set up
Thanks for your comment! Sounds like a good idea too. I guess using the soft jaws is a little bit more convenient :)
Great work! This is something I've been thinking about doing for a long time, and it's awesome to see that it can, indeed, be done.
Something to make milling the slots/registers a bit easier: Mill from only one side (I usually mill from the fixed-jaw side of the vise), and rotate the workpiece 180* every cut. This will ensure that the feature is perfectly centered, and removes any possible error from repositioning the cutting tool to the other side of the work. You just have to remember to divide your remaining material in half, when adjusting for the next cut.
Hi and thanks for your comment and feedback! I really do appreciate that. I will keep your tip on the milling strategy in mind for the next time.
haha! i saw it! googly eyes now! hahahahahahhaa love it!!!!!
Thank you very much!
In the US we refer to these as American tongue and groove. These top jaws have been around a very long time I usually get them from US Shop tools. Good work.
That's interesting to hear. Thanks for the information and your feedback. I really do appreciate that.
Hi dear.I would like to know where can I get those American tongue and groove jaws.Thank you.
@@angelramos-2005 US Shop Tools is one place.
@@terrymoorecnc2500 Thank you.
It official, your lathe is better than a schaublin or a weiler since its small and versitile. 😮
:D Thank you very much! I'm humbled. There is still a lot left to do...
Very nicely done! Now for some Pie jaws?
Any reason why, after cutting the jaws to length you didn't return them to the chuck and face them to length, rather than 3 individual set ups in the mill?
1:05 scared the crap out of me! lol
:D little joke ;)
@@WeCanDoThatBetter Keep them coming! Good humor is always good!
6:00 you could have done all three jaws at the same time 'in situ' on the lathe
I later did, you see that in the video. I was a little bit concerned if I can take so much material off on the lathe. It might have worked I guess.
Superglue works well for Chris at Clickspring, and it takes a fractio of the time.
That's true, but everyone does that ;)
Hmm i wonder now how do they get these teeth in such jaws normally?
Excellent work,but the link you provide sell to a limited number of countries.I like to buy the chuck from Spain.Can you help me?Thank you.
Hi and thanks for your comment and feedback. I will ask if they will ship to spain too.
@@WeCanDoThatBetter Thank you for your help.
So... why not put the jaws in the chuck and turn them down on the lathe instead of sawing and milling??
Did I miss something?
Hi, good question. I could have done it that way but thought it would be easier to junk away some material first before the final finish on the lathe. But considering the time and the wasted jaw I probably should have done it as you said in the first place... :) Always learning ;)
It wouldn't be as much fun :) but Maprox makes some nice 6 jaw chucks for thin parts, not exactly cheap but they can be found used.
I think there are no 6 jaw chucks with 80mm. I'm even not sure if there are ones with 100mm. 100mm would be ok, but 125mm is definitely too big for this lathe.
What's that I hear? You're gonna make a chuck from scratch? Nice
:D Sorry to disappoint you here... ;)
8.04 nice video I wanted to know what type and where to buy for flattening aluminum?? thanks you!!
Hi and thanks! The aluminium I bought just on ebay. There was a guy who sold scrap pieces of some waterjet work. It had the right thickness and size and was affordable.
@@WeCanDoThatBetter yes but I was talking about the planer cutter? where and name cutter?thanks!!
Actually it is… Nice!
Thank you!
Where do you buy your taps from? And what brand are they?
Hi, I'm using a set of RUKO machine taps. It's a plastic box with M3-M12 including the tap drill for each size. Very happy with the quality so far.
make v shaped mating surfaces to remove inaccuracies.
Класс!!!!
Ach...jetzt weiss ich, wer mir die TESA-Tiefenmessschraube aus dem 3er Set im Kleinanzeigenmarkt vor der Nase weggeschnappt hat ;)
:DHaha, ist das echt so?
If your slot is tapered as seen at 17:33, shouldn't that be a concern?
Oh yes, I've noticed that too. I think the milling machine is too wobbly for the task and not that accurate anymore. I think the deviation is not too extreme, so it should be ok here.
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Hi
Hast Du die Gweinde in die gehärteten Backen gedreht?
War das ein HssE oder Vhm Gewindebohrer?
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Die Backen sind, soweit ich weiß, nicht gehärtet. Allerdings kamen sie mir schon etwas zäh vor. Ich habe einen ganz normalen HSS Gewindebohrer genommen. Musste aber sehr vorsichtig sein, damit er mir nicht abbricht.
@@WeCanDoThatBetter ok
Joar wenn es C45 gehärtet ist fühlt sich das halbhart an. Bessere Legierungen merkt man es ganz schnell.
Hab letztens eine bearbeitet wo man merkte das es robuster war denn der GS konnte nicht schneiden und verstumpfte sofort!
VHM M4 hätz mir wharscheinlich verrissen 😅
8:30 couldn't u fly cut all three pieced at once to ensure they were identical?
I actually did this later, yes. You see this 1 min later or so. As the fly cutter doesn't like aggressive cuts, I thought it is better, to mill them first with a normal endmill.
@@WeCanDoThatBetter yes, thank you for replying. I did see it later in the video. Well done!
and you'll be charging how much for these ? .. Cause I could sure use a set :)
Aluminium
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So sad I didn't get to see you tear the paper or whatever it was off of that aluminum
Oops I will keep that in mind for the next time ;) I did it on one little piece at 8:35 at least.
Metallica - Master of chuckets
chucky!
VAi desgastar rápido
Я пиво пролил
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Great job!
I do have to point out that you are promoting unsafe practices. Even though your machines are small, unaware people do imitate what they see. Long sleeves and running spindles is quite unsafe. Also reaching in to grab a part while the spindle is running, big no no!!
Please be aware of what you put out there. You do have the responsibility to exemplify good shop safety practices, both as the good machinist that you are, and also as a content creator. Keep up the good work!