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1996-2000 Civic drivers door depin broken wires in harness fix
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- Опубліковано 2 січ 2019
- How to do depinning and repair a wiring harness connector on the drivers door of a 1996-2000 Honda Civic EX. The harness plug is the same for the 1994-2001 Acura Integra. I used a plug from a 1998 Integra, depinned it for the repair, and made a special tool to do the job. It had a broke wire in it too. Del Sol, and 1992-1995 Civic might have the same plug. Door lock, power window, speaker, power mirror, not working. 1993 1997 1998 1999 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 00 01
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Here's a link that has the pinout wiring diagram for a 1996 Civic
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Here is the link to the playlist from building this car
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Never in my life have I successfully removed a harness pin without destroying the harness connector, or the pin, or both. After watching this, I made a tool out of a piece of stainless steel from a hose clamp. My son and I then used it to remove 6 pins from the drivers front door harness in my mothers 96 Accord. We were able to then reconnect all 6 pins to their wires, and reinstall them into the connector, and get everything working again. Hats off to you!
I had been struggling with getting these terminals out for about 2 hours. Then I watched your video and was able to remove all the terminals in minutes. thank you so much for creating this video, it really helped.
Omg!!! I've been driving around for 2 years with my locks not working because I thought this would be a hard and confusing repair! Thank you so much!! I think I can do this!! If my locks work and my passenger window rolls up faster I'll be jumping for joy!! Thank you sir for explaining this to woman who never got taught about cars!!! 👍👍😃👏
Good luck!
Working on an 01 CR-V with the same connector and a broken wire at the pin for the window motor. Someone filled the connector with conductive grease so I couldn’t see anything. This video saved the day, thanks for publishing!
That is factory silicone grease. They probably do that for corrosion resistance. It is neither a conductor, or an insulator. Just like a silicone micro chip. Silicone is semi-conducting.
This is the best video on youtube about this common Honda problem from this vintage. I've owned my '98 CRV for just over 24
years(and 296K miles) and I've been without the power door locks for at least ten years. It hasn't been the family vehicle for quite awhile as it's just my daily driver these days and I've learned to live with it. Everything else works so it hasn't been a big deal. The only other problem is the driver's window is slow when it's closing but I've always attributed it to a slowly dying motor or simply the track needs to be regreased. Now I'm wondering if the wire has been significantly compromised and the resistance is high. Kudos for a detailed, common-sense method to tackle this problem. I also like the idea of using liquid tape to strengthen the wires near the connector.
Thanks man, great video. Thank you for the explanation on why not to solder, I didn’t know that. I’m 50 years old and you learn something new every day brother!!
Did this on a 99 civic lx. Ran into two blue wires with white lines so I guessed and spliced them. Tested everything out and seemed to work just fine. Blue with white line were the amp power supply for the radio is what I was told. After about an hour of driving it I started messing with my power mirrors and figured out that if I try to go up with the mirror it locks the doors haha so if you come across the same thing I did make sure you check the power mirrors. Thanks for the vid
did mine today and is doing the same thing. Did you figure out the problem?
@@pigcreations6357 I’m assuming it’s the two blue wires with white lines are spiced together wrong. Look and see if you have two of the same wires and flip flop them I’m sure that’s what it is. I used liquid tape and a lot of electrical tape to seal it up and didn’t realize I spliced them wrong until 2 days later. Doesn’t bother me so I don’t plan on flipping them
@@ezpzlemonsqzz yes. 2 blue/white wires that are identical. Thanks for the reply and I will try swapping them. Hope my mirrors work after that.
@@pigcreations6357 no problem. My mirrors still work left/right but up/down locks and unlocks the doors lol. If they still don’t work maybe there is a fuse blown or something? Hope it helps
@@ezpzlemonsqzz I swapped the two wires today and everything worked except the mirrors. Plugged the ABS fuse back in and boom, mirrors worked also. lol thanks
Love your content man. The past three videos of yours I've seen I can't help but notice you take your time to do things the right way. Seen another video of a dude cutting both connectors off from the main harness and the connector out of the door to solder and heat shrink all the wires together like a goof. I give a great big thumbs up man....OKAY BYE!!!😂😂😂😂
Great video! I’ve been trying to figure out how i was gonna fix this problem for like a week and u definitely solved my problem. Thanks for the video
Welcome. Thanks for watching!
my 97 civic started having a wiring issue with the driver side speaker, so I took a look and seen a similar problem, also yes windows are slow, so I think this explains all the issues. I probably also have a similar issue with my 99 crv, since the passenger side window doesn't move at all
Thank you for publishing this. You probably saved me at least two hours work and a lot of confusion.
Welcome!
Very thorough video. I like the liquid tape at the end to basically lock everything in place and insulate.
Very professional job, thanks you very much.
Great video for a common an annoying problem. 2000 Civic drivers door power lock stopped working, thought it was the actuator….but it wasn’t….looks like I’ve got to do this fix also.
Muchas gracias te fuistes justo al problema, muchas gracias eres el mejor mi carro tiene lo mismo
Having the same problem with my 2004 CRV. Thank you so much and that was so informative...good call on the Liquid Tape.
#genius
PS also I love the way you say "goofy". Thanks man!!
WE LOVE HONDA'S!!!!
@@RustBeltAuto where do you get Liquid Tape?
@@ephesians.6 any hardware store in the electrical section.
@@RustBeltAuto thank you!
Excellent video man 💯
Thank you for the great video!
Best damn video I'm gonna try to do it just like this
For split non-insulated butt splices, I've read that you should crimp it so the tool bears down on the opposite side of the split. About soldering... it's a problem to solder stranded wire because it wicks down the strands and makes the joint brittle. Especially in a situation like this, soldering isn't the best joint.
Great video have the same problem on 97 prelude.
What wiring diagram you use I have the same problem rn?
My windows don't go down on my 1996 Civic and my electric mirror doesn't work either. So this video gave me an idea about what I need to do to fix it.
Check powers, and grounds at the black relay box in the drivers door, and mirror first. I'm sure you will find a problem. Thanks for watching!
Did you have any broken wires?
Did it work for you ?? My windows go down but dont go back up
@@reckless909jv did you fix it? i got that problem rn too
It's the harness by the side driver door behind the fender but you can attach a ground and get by for right now
Nice work man, I had to do this to my '93 back in the day... It was sort of a ball buster, you made it look easy. Could you have used that liquid nails junk instead of the liquid electrical tape? I learned something to day about no soldering... Makes sense, thanks for the tip. OKAY BYE!
Liquid nails? That was a joke right? Liquid tape is non conductive, waterproof, and auto/marine grade.
Yeah, I guess the liquid nails would have been a bad idea.
Good job!!! thanks!!! for the video!!!
Welcome!
Thanks man this is what I was looking for I'm going through this now and it's a pain lol. Good stuff thank you!
I’m hearing some Minnesota in here!😁
Thank you very much
Thank you. No soldering!
I have a 99 civic with manual windows and power locks do I follow the same process but with less wires since its just the wires for the speaker the lock switch and the door lock
yes
man my power lock and speaker ain't working i hope i can fix this thank u!!
why not going yunke yard,i get that other plug??
Awesome information especially the part of the windows rolling up/ down faster. Can you provide a link to the Honda tech for plug wire connections?
honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/looking-96-98-door-wiring-plug-pinout-2996244/
Rust Belt Auto thank you!
Hey my 98 civic inside the distributor there was rust and corrosion on the terminals for the ignitor and coil causing intermittent misfire. So I cleaned them all up and coated them with very light dielectric grease. Think that’ll help prevent that from happening again?
Probably not. Using grease on electronics is a controversial subject, because it is a semi-conductor, and traps moisture. Best to make sure it is sealed, kept dry, and has a way to drain.
99 civic lx Very helpful thanks. Thought it was the regulators on windows. How do I get the wiring diagram from honda tech??
I sent someone a link in the comment section.
Help ! I am doing this same job i am having a hard time finding the right pins online . My car is a honda so this harness is identical to mine. Do you have the link or information for the type of female pins/connectors used? I’d really appreciate the information. Thank you for the video it really helped me get the pins out.
There are people who have posted links in the comment section if you are not willing to commandeer one out of a junk yard to repair yours.
Hey I have this issue with both doors on my 01 Acura integra but nothing work, no power locks or windows and my speakers don’t work on both sides. I checked the cables to see they were torn or disconnected but the are fine. Else could it be?
Check fuses, powers going in, and out of the master switch, and there is a module in the door if I remember correctly. Probably best for you to go on honda-tech website.
Excellent movie. Im sure that Same problems you will find on H. CRV 1 (As my) anyhow where to find position diagram of wires colors....?
I found mine on hondatech website. The dealer might be able to supply you with that information. Perhaps the library, or anyone who has Mitchell on demand, like a mechanic shop.
I am working on that type of problem on a 2000 Civic, where do we get the wiring sequence for that block so all things work?
If the wires on both sides of the plug don't match up, and you cannot find a wiring diagram online, you could always try to find a manual at a local library, or possibly even a dealership. Best advice I can give you.
man oh man ! you saved me sooooo much time and money < i think i have a waay better idea of were to go,! i have an 97 acura EL that the windows and locks dont work and all the fueses are great , i never thought about the harness ! thank you ! is there a link to buy the connectors ?
You are going to have to hunt something down somehow.
Same problem my crv rd1..clamp pin and wire pin problem.
How do you get the connectors to click back into the harness? I couldn't get the wire to click like you did, so it would just slide in and out easily and not stay put.
Maybe its backwards?
So does the wheel need to be taken off? Also how long would you say it takes to get this fully completed
It depends
Great video. Anyone know where to get those pins and connections? I bought some different ones, but they are too short.
If you mean the butt connectors, I remove them from insulated butt connectors, if I can not find any non insulated ones. The pins nobody sells. Honda might sell a really expensive kit. You need to get them out of a door connector from a junkyard. Acura, and Honda's from the same years should be the same. Civic's, Integra, and CR-v for sure.
@@RustBeltAuto Thanks man. In my case, I'm putting in new wiring for door speakers. And there are empty slots I can use in the connectors. But just need the pins to make it happen.
@@davidb.301 Glad to help. Good luck!
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Does anyone know if that gray 25 pin connector is available from Honda?
Nope
hey my cluster works but my speed gauge stopped working with my milage marker, could this be it? i tried replacing everything including transmission, clusters, sensor and connector for sensor
no
It is your printed circuit board on the back of your instrument cluster. There is thin spot in the printed circuit. I had a speedometer shop who fixed it. Or find a better one in a wrecking yard, it is a common problem in 10% of 96-2000 civics. Not the speed sensor on the transmission. My speedometer still works but now a few Guage lights work intermittently, so same problem I'm sure.
Haha epic ending... "okay bey!"
He ends most/all of his vids like that
Any club where i can get the crimps to go on the plug?? I tried honda but no luck
Nope.
Great videos, I have a gen 1 crv and I need to raise it a couple inches, I noticed that you have adjustable struts on your civic, if I installed them do you think I could get at least 2 inches higher the stock height
I don't know.
They sell the connector on ebay the full harness brand new but the funny thing is the sellers asking 1000 bucks not even a full civic is worth that lol but thanks to this vid you can do it your self
They usually do that to keep the listing, when they are out of stock.
I have the same issue but im having no luck finding the connector pins. Would you happen to have a link for the pins?
There was some on Ebay. In my video I robbed a connector form a GSR. Civic, Integra, CRV, and maybe Accord from those years have them. 1996-2000
9:48 how did you know I got pissed off 😂😂😂
Brain coupling 🤪
Good luck getting another plug from the salvage yard!
Upullrparts has them here.
I must be the only one that's made the exact tool as you and still can't get the pins out, I've been on this for an hour...
Hmmm. Must be doing something wrong.
Has anyone in this thread come across the diagram for the floor harness that connects to the door with the affected connector? I cut out my connector and need a diagram that shows the colors of the wires coming from the floor harness to the driver's side door harness and how they match up ..99' LX
Probably going to need a factory diagram, or maybe one from Mitchell. Might want to go on honda-tech, and see if someone can help you out.
do you by any chance have the part number for the 25 pin connector? I have the same problem with my prelude but the connector is broken/cracked down the middle and I don't have any junkyards near me. there's someone selling the connectors on eBay but he's selling them for $999.95 and I don't really want to pay that if I don't have to, if you know the part number that would be a great help.
You are going to need to find one off of a civic, integra, or crv of same years. Maybe have a junkyard can mail it to you. People list crazy prices, because they are out of stock, and dont want to loose their listing.
@@RustBeltAuto oh ok thanks for the info boss. I'll start looking for those cars as well then I appreciate it
Are the wires the same color from an integra match up with the civics??
No.
IVe seen a couple vids now and most did sodler them. WHat is that stuff you used to cramp the wires together?
Non insulated connectors? Can take apart insulated connectors to get out the barrels too.
@@RustBeltAuto AH great , thanks!
cool.
Thanks I got the same problem on a 2000 Honda Civic that I bought. If you open the door all the way the speaker goes out and the door locks and windows Don't work.
You're welcome. It is super common on these cars. People tend to hack this job real good. Thanks for watching!
Can you please direct us to the honda tech forum where you were able to get help and receive the wiring diagram ?
Someone already asked me that. It's in the comment section. For my year anyways.
@@RustBeltAuto wow, thank you for the quick reply! I am doing a 2001 CRV...boy it's been a stressful week...but thanks to the information in your video, and the small tool that just came in today, I was able to remove the connectors finally!
I'm taking a slightly different approach since I rashly decided to cut the rest of the wires from the connectors of the plug...I ordered this and also am about to order the correct crimping tool for crimping the new connectors onto the existing wires www.ebay.com/itm/Door-Harness-Connector-Repair-Wiring-Plug-Honda-CRV-97-01-Civic-96-00-Integra-98/254623437248?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
@@CATEGORY13LIGHTBODY that's a pretty good deal. Some other seller was commenting on here, and selling a harness with wires in it for about 4 times a much.
@@RustBeltAuto This would have been my other option for about $50 more: the plug with the wired connectors already installed: www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Fits-Honda-CRV-97-01-Door-Harness-Pigtail-Connector-Repair-Wiring-Interior/254623490858?_trkparms=aid%3D1110002%26algo%3DSPLICE.SOI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225074%26meid%3Dc772b90672ce4702b7feb95dc6e43ca1%26pid%3D100047%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D254623437248%26itm%3D254623490858%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSellersOtherItemsV2%26brand%3DCustom&_trksid=p2047675.c100047.m2108 I figured I might as well use the money to add a new tool to my toolbox: pretty cool crimper...after countless hours of research on crimpers: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002L6HJ8W/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 crazy part is that I supposedly purchased the last one...immediately after I paid for it I went back to the listing and they had one that was advertised to ship much later, for 12 dollars more! And now when I check the listing this morning the price is down to 46 with a promise to be delivered by the same day mine is promised to be delivered....make's you wonder how they decide amazon's pricing algorithms...
Does anyone have the table with the order of colors please
I think I found a link on hondatech, and left it on here for someone. That's where I found it, so I didn't have to go to the dealer, or library to get it.
Where to buy this wiring harness connector ?
Some dude on eBay sells them in left a link in my comment section
Could you kindly let me know the wire size indoor harness?
I don't know. Match them up. Also, a shorter wire has less resistance, and connections have more, so theoretically, you can guess a little.
@@RustBeltAuto Thanks for the reply. I think I didn't make clear my question. what I would like to know is the wire diameter to buy the wire for the door harness connection. Thank you.
@@Paul_Pauline looks like there are 12 and 14ga wires in there.
Do you know which pin removal tool I need.
Terminal Removal Tool Kit 82 Pcs Depinning Tool Electrical Connector Pin Removal Tool Kit Pin Extractor Tool Set Wire Terminal Release Tool for Automotive Car Household Devices a.co/d/4b4HrPp
It's one of these I'm sure
@@RustBeltAuto you are the man. I’ll check it out. Thanks.
Seems to me that somebody should sell individual wire with the pin connector already attached on one end. Like the wires you pulled out of the salvage pin block. I can buy a whole block with all the wires connected for $40 to $80, but then I have to cut all the wires off and splice all of them to use it. I think I will buy it and just pull a wire or two out of it to use in my old pin block. I looked around and couldn't find any individual wires.
What size pin connector???
The size that come out of a used drivers door from a civic, del sol, or Integra of the same years. Might be the same for other cars, dont know for sure. You cannot get them new.
Damnit I used solder. Welp look like I might have to redo someday
People do it all the time. I see people teach how to's about It on UA-cam. It is amateur hour. It is not a problem, until it is a problem. If things start to melt, and smoke, it might be time to re-do it. If you're lucky it will be fine. You should see the nightmares I have delt with on custom Harley's. They solder everything. It's a nightmare waiting to happen.
Where can you get the special tool?
Lisle 57750 wire terminal tool kit is a good one. Parts stores may have something. I have always made something that works. Every car terminal is different.
@@RustBeltAuto thankyou i found a kit on amazon
Any way you can send me the diagram for a couple 99
Sorry. No.
Where can I buy that connector ?
Someone on here posted this link.
www.ebay.com/itm/Door-Harness-Connector-Repair-Wiring-Plug-Honda-CRV-97-01-Civic-96-00-Integra-98-/254623437248
Rust Belt Auto thank you
You can just go to junk yard and clip the plug out just make sure not to clip the wires to short clip wires long enought
Absolutely wrong about soldering, the oxidation and resistance are not working like that. But still thanks for showing all the other step of repairing it.
I have taken electrical classes from Bosch, and A6, L1 ASE certified. They all teach you that soldering wires is a big no no. Soldered wires are also not coast guard approved in marine applications. It is a good way to start a fire.
solder > crimping. any day. they dont solder wires in factory. why would they solder if they have full length of wire.
Impossible to pull the pins out
No
Shit is rather take the damn door off..
This must be the culprit of my non working power mirror
Did you happen to fix it?
@@daniblackham4381 ya. Chopped off the plug from junkyard. When I took mine off I wires had unpinned. Everything works as it should now
Excelent.
you can buy new connector kits on ebay!!!!!
Can I have a link please?
@@RustBeltAuto www.ebay.com/itm/202906873344
@@moshegalimidi2302 wow! Spendy. Thanks for that!
that poor integra..
Honda warranty time pays .3 hr to repair
@@user-tt2lg5kg1t have fun staying poor, and living under a bridge.
@@RustBeltAuto Can you spare some change, my kids need new shoes?
@@user-tt2lg5kg1t Couple days from living under a bridge myself.
@@RustBeltAuto LMAO, SMA hiring?
@@user-tt2lg5kg1t 🍑🔥
Just get used harness from junkyard way easier that's what I would do
Every one I see has cracked insulation/broken wires. If I could find a shipyard of them, I could make a new living selling them.
Solder don't cause resistance. Shitty solder jobs do.
Wrong. Every connection causes resistance. The heat expands everything, and solder goes in-between the two surfaces, causing more resistance, and a higher failure rate in wire connections versus ordinary crimped wire to wire connections, or ultrasonic welding. That is why you never see any solder on any factory wire connections. It is only used on things like circuit boards to attach wire to foil on a board.
@@RustBeltAuto you might want to do some study. resistance is heat no shit but solder in it's self does not create the resistance is is a metal alloy that is highly conductive. and you do not see solder on factory connections becasue serviceability. solder is more of a permenant situation.
@@CotyRiddle I am A6 ASE certified, and Bosch electrical certified. Stop waisting my time with your drivel.
@@RustBeltAuto Ok them cirtifications dont really mean shit. ok so you went to school. and your point. have you actually been presented with a situation that would prove you otherwise? Id bet not. How ever I am not going to argue over the internet with anyone as it is pointless. All i am saying is I have used solder plenty of times in many extream aspplications and everything to this day still functions. Have a great one
@@CotyRiddle you know very little, and have very little experience. Ask me to study, and I did more than you. Now you say educating yourself doesn't mean anything. You are a self proclaimed arguement winner. Keep believing you are right. Maybe you will never have a problem, if you never do enough.