You forgot to mention that Chuck Rhodes was given back the flash drive that had all of his “crimes” when Chuck gave that drive to Wags. Good ending Show will be missed
You know what’s funny… I thought it was money. It never occurred to me that it was that but it makes total sense. It’s almost a call to a new battle… we start fresh. Thank you for pointing that out.
I recently re-watched Successions and found the show to be much better than the first time. For me the characters were more understandable now that I knew more of the back story. Their actions were more clear and I honestly disliked them even more which is a testament to how good the actors are. It really is amazing to watch the bumbling three get outplayed while they think they rule the world all while having no real earned accomplishments. Great show but I needed to watch it twice lol.
this was a complete trading places ending. Axe had to pay bobby a dollar to honor the bet that they could not break prince and make everyone else rich at the same time.
Rewatching this finale, Prince exits like a TRUE BOSS! Axe's body language at that moment reveals a certain level of respect/fear and relief. Axe stated in London that he did NOT want to go up against Prince's Presidency (even with Wendy, Wags, and Taylor pressuring him)... only as a debt to Chuck and protecting Wendy against criminal prosecutions. This opens the possibility of Prince's return in the future spin-offs!
I think Prince is going to be in millions since he's a multimillionaire so I think he's going use that money to rebuild his legitimate billions dollars net worth if he goes into four different lucrative businesses that Axel doesn't have any interest in Mike Prince is going to diversify into crypto currency trading, penny stocks dividends trading, legal medical marijuana business and, storage unit rental properties business build it up to make $20 million dollars a year then frenchise the businesses to make more money 🤑💰 like $100 million dollars a year in each business he'll never rebuild his former $20 billion dollars net worth but I think he could rebuild like half of it like $8 billion dollars or $10 billion dollars and he should be able to do what he wants but if I was him I stay out of the presidential race forever if he has political ambition he should settle for state senator or state congressman better than nothing cause Axel won't see him as a threat
It is the skill of the individual that determines his true titan billionaire status. Based on past statistics, Prince will return with absolution and vengeance. His warning to all his detractors: "this country is built on second acts; when you see his, you better duck and f*cking cover."
Ofcourse, it was all big business...Mike was not evil at all, Axe underestimated him in season 5 and Axe came back in the last season. I felt the ending wrapped up a little too neatly, like Axe and Chuck are supposed to be friends now after everything they been thru? The ending was basically fan service. as far as Mike, I wouldn't worry about him, AXE left him with 100 million, in 2 or 3yrs he'll turn that into 2 Billion. Honestly, I do not consider Chuck and Axe as winners, Wendy made the smartest movie and left Axe...that dude is poison, Axe is like Tony Soprano...they may be the focul points of the show, but these were not good people. Axe care about no one except the all mighty dollar, he even told his team at the end LETS GO MAKE MONEY!, he's already worth how many billions? and he wants more? he lost his wife, he"s turning his son into him, his best people left him at the end Wendy and Taylor, Wags is just robin the Axes Batman.
I myself was annoyed that Mike Prince walked away with $100 million (though it reflected well on Axe). Prince is the guy who was comfortable imagining himself doing a nuclear first strike. Yet you apparently think that is okay, i.e., "Mike...wasn't so bad". I find that strange. On a question like your initial comment, I begin by parsing out the writers' intention. One could possibly get away with @bigbabysid's contention that "it was all big business"...but then the writers tossed in the nuclear first strike. One can assume that the writers believe that only a psychopath would give himself permission to do a nuclear first strike. (Hm. Uh-h-h...yeah. Putin IS a psychopath.) As the episodes progressed, the writers built up the audience's mistrust and distaste for Prince to culminate in this intolerable statement about a nuclear first strike. The writers did not intend that this intolerable statement would come out of nowhere. Therefore, they gradually built up evidence of his ugly character. (Keep in mind that when the writers had Prince throw the copier through Wendy's window, the shattered glass could have blinded Wendy. His ugly character indeed.) . I believe that the writers intended us to mistrust Prince. The writers were warning us about people like him, megalomaniacs devoid of self-doubt. Devoid of self-doubt. That's the key. (You don't give the nuclear football to someone devoid of self-doubt. Note well that this finale was written after Trump had been President.) A much-needed warning. Yeah, a much-needed warning, even in our own humdrum lives. Watch out for people like that, my friend. Beware.
Amazing show, I enjoyed it tremendously. While I enjoyed its ending, I cannot help but thinking that it can be continued especially now that Axe is back, the 'gang' is back, and they can do business in other states.
Maybe in a few years but the big problem is that the whole show was the battle between axe and chuck probably invisibly over Wendy. That rivalry is done but I would like to see more axe.
From the start of the season me and my friends that watch this show agree that is has been beautifully written to go into this season i was expecting nothing short and i have been utterly right. The writing in this has been great. However the plot around prince being a ego maniac that is going to end the world and put us in world war 3 or worst was utter bullshit. It simply made zero fucking sense and was forced down our throat with no evidence of it what so ever he was the exact opposite. And i am someone who loves axes character and would want him to get his revenge but the narrative around it simply made no sense. I am dissapoonted in the direction they went this finals season but the execution was nothing short of what they have given us to this point and that is 10/10. Please like if you agree and if not leave a lengthy in detail comment i would love to hear the other side of my point of view
I agree 100%. Prince isn’t perfect and we saw many points in time where he exhibited scummy behaviour. None of it warranted them sabotaging his wealth and attributing crimes to him he wasn’t involved with. Unlike Axe and Chuck who caused their own selves to get their losses, Prince did nothing to cause the ending we got. I saw it coming but was severely underwhelmed.
What did prince do to warrant this conspiracy orchestrated against him? We all just gonna ignore billionaires and law work together to illegally destroy his legacy? The printer throw was out of control but I understand.
People with kill to protect a small business worth 10s of thousands a month. For the destruction of Billions? Red every member of this conspiracy would live the rest of their lives uthat under threats of reprisal not just from Prince, but people far scarier and far more ruthless. All it would take would be one phone call from Prince to parties involved letting them know who screwed them for the dogs to be unleahed. Anyone remember the investment bankers who committed suicide or disppeared after Maddoff ruined them? At least one of them were purportedly responsible for cleaning and investing money for eastern european gangs.
@@iamthewizardwhoknocks2845 how so? Only similarities I see are that he was a billionaire running for president. Other than that, he was smart, articulate, and seemed to lean liberal.
Anyone remember "the happy ending" from Waynes world 2 when they did the gag? Felt like that to me. It was brilliantly done but I felt Spyros was a snake the whole time and didn't deserve the happy ending. Just my thought though.
I had several interesting experiences during this season that started in last season…. The first was seeing the “good guys” as the bad guys. I’m open to counter opinions, however, when I reflect back, I think Prince was far more fair and less “evil” that Axe and especially Chuck. In fact, I see Chuck as the most evil since he misused his position whereas the investors used loopholes or skirted the law. I guess I place a higher level of responsibility on Chuck. Further though and to my point, to me it seems like Prince simply out played everyone but I didn’t seem him go to any levels the others wouldn’t have gone to… in fact he avoided them. The second thing and probably the most annoying for me was the constant need to reference situations I’m guessing to show how brilliant or hip they were… like so and so at X. It just became a tiresome crutch for me. Last but not least, I think the narcissism of Wendy got to me. Everyone gets on board with this major plan because she decided? While I liked the last season overall, I think I would have liked something that required a bit less suspension of disbelief. Oh I should mention that I loved the diverse cast WITHOUT any explanation for special circumstances or message. Honestly it was refreshing to see well developed characters with skill sets that would fleshed out and not given to specific groups. All of the actors and their characters I thought were really great. I will miss this show but I do think it was time to end.
What wasn't seen, but what I just assumed, was that DiGiulio set up the National Security meeting with Prince and POTUS. But you had to know, from the first scene from 7-1 was that Prince was going down, and going down hard.
The writers had to go through EXTREME mental gymnastics to this finale in order to placate their fuzzy-logical emotionally-fueled Axe fan-base. Looks similar to how Anakin Skywalker mutated to the Dark Side as Darth Vader OVERNIGHT! The dialogue between Prince and Wendy after projecting the office machine through the glass wall of her office makes NO sense at all! Also note that the Business Structuring of MPC is ABSOLUTELY COMPLETE NONSENSE!
@@ultramarkusomega I am so relieved I’m not the only one who thinks this too. Mental gymnastics lol perfect way to describe it. They better have a Mike Prince spin off
@@mralgo3836 They should to keep their logical fans-base. Facts DESTROY their feelings and emotional narrative. All the Axe fans said that Prince is evil egotistical maniac. Yet... it is Axe (along with Wendy and Wags) who prevented a friend getting a cure to his cancer so when he died he is unable to testify against Axe and send him to jail. That is PURE EGOTISTICAL EVIL!
I think it was cheap writing, at last min , you prove half if his team was working against him. They could have make axe or chuck to topple the entire kingdom with a sudden great idea
"Axe found it difficult to accept all that collateral harm to the people that he cares about. Thus he follows Bobby Axelrod's lead...." Huh? I don't get it. Axe follows Bobby Axelrod's lead. Am I missing something here?
I'm glad Axe smoked Prince.. But in all reality.. he was very presidential... doesn't take shit from anyone, and is a strong leader.. Remember....Prince took out Axe all by himself.... it took Axe, Wendy, Chuck, Wags and ALL the rest.. to take down Prince...
They showed a few episodes back that she chose to walk away from all of the negativity and travel the world. Mason saw her off with a heartwarming goodbye.
You forgot to mention that Chuck Rhodes was given back the flash drive that had all of his “crimes” when Chuck gave that drive to Wags. Good ending Show will be missed
I thought it was a usb full of crypto
You know what’s funny… I thought it was money. It never occurred to me that it was that but it makes total sense. It’s almost a call to a new battle… we start fresh. Thank you for pointing that out.
It was so well written and delivered the sort of ending I was hoping for. Looking back, nearly every episode has some life lesson in it.
I was pleased with the ending. Not a depressing as Successions which I also loved.
I recently re-watched Successions and found the show to be much better than the first time. For me the characters were more understandable now that I knew more of the back story. Their actions were more clear and I honestly disliked them even more which is a testament to how good the actors are. It really is amazing to watch the bumbling three get outplayed while they think they rule the world all while having no real earned accomplishments. Great show but I needed to watch it twice lol.
Very satisfied with the ending and style of showing what went down in reverse.
this was a complete trading places ending. Axe had to pay bobby a dollar to honor the bet that they could not break prince and make everyone else rich at the same time.
Rewatching this finale, Prince exits like a TRUE BOSS! Axe's body language at that moment reveals a certain level of respect/fear and relief. Axe stated in London that he did NOT want to go up against Prince's Presidency (even with Wendy, Wags, and Taylor pressuring him)... only as a debt to Chuck and protecting Wendy against criminal prosecutions. This opens the possibility of Prince's return in the future spin-offs!
I think Prince is going to be in millions since he's a multimillionaire so I think he's going use that money to rebuild his legitimate billions dollars net worth if he goes into four different lucrative businesses that Axel doesn't have any interest in Mike Prince is going to diversify into crypto currency trading, penny stocks dividends trading, legal medical marijuana business and, storage unit rental properties business build it up to make $20 million dollars a year then frenchise the businesses to make more money 🤑💰 like $100 million dollars a year in each business he'll never rebuild his former $20 billion dollars net worth but I think he could rebuild like half of it like $8 billion dollars or $10 billion dollars and he should be able to do what he wants but if I was him I stay out of the presidential race forever if he has political ambition he should settle for state senator or state congressman better than nothing cause Axel won't see him as a threat
Anyone else think Mike wasnt so bad and couldnt really get behind his down fall?
It is the skill of the individual that determines his true titan billionaire status. Based on past statistics, Prince will return with absolution and vengeance. His warning to all his detractors: "this country is built on second acts; when you see his, you better duck and f*cking cover."
Ofcourse, it was all big business...Mike was not evil at all, Axe underestimated him in season 5 and Axe came back in the last season. I felt the ending wrapped up a little too neatly, like Axe and Chuck are supposed to be friends now after everything they been thru? The ending was basically fan service.
as far as Mike, I wouldn't worry about him, AXE left him with 100 million, in 2 or 3yrs he'll turn that into 2 Billion.
Honestly, I do not consider Chuck and Axe as winners, Wendy made the smartest movie and left Axe...that dude is poison, Axe is like Tony Soprano...they may be the focul points of the show, but these were not good people. Axe care about no one except the all mighty dollar, he even told his team at the end LETS GO MAKE MONEY!, he's already worth how many billions? and he wants more? he lost his wife, he"s turning his son into him, his best people left him at the end Wendy and Taylor, Wags is just robin the Axes Batman.
TBTFW too big to fuc with! An institution that’s powerful and insulated. That’s his dream and he’s living it
I myself was annoyed that Mike Prince walked away with $100 million (though it reflected well on Axe). Prince is the guy who was comfortable imagining himself doing a nuclear first strike. Yet you apparently think that is okay, i.e., "Mike...wasn't so bad". I find that strange. On a question like your initial comment, I begin by parsing out the writers' intention. One could possibly get away with @bigbabysid's contention that "it was all big business"...but then the writers tossed in the nuclear first strike. One can assume that the writers believe that only a psychopath would give himself permission to do a nuclear first strike. (Hm. Uh-h-h...yeah. Putin IS a psychopath.) As the episodes progressed, the writers built up the audience's mistrust and distaste for Prince to culminate in this intolerable statement about a nuclear first strike. The writers did not intend that this intolerable statement would come out of nowhere. Therefore, they gradually built up evidence of his ugly character. (Keep in mind that when the writers had Prince throw the copier through Wendy's window, the shattered glass could have blinded Wendy. His ugly character indeed.)
. I believe that the writers intended us to mistrust Prince. The writers were warning us about people like him, megalomaniacs devoid of self-doubt. Devoid of self-doubt. That's the key. (You don't give the nuclear football to someone devoid of self-doubt. Note well that this finale was written after Trump had been President.) A much-needed warning. Yeah, a much-needed warning, even in our own humdrum lives. Watch out for people like that, my friend. Beware.
Both Billions and Shameless, both Showtime series, both had great final episodes.
Billions ended greatly. I loved the ending.
Cannot wait for the spinoff(s) - Wags going to Miami definitely has something to do with it.
Amazing show, I enjoyed it tremendously. While I enjoyed its ending, I cannot help but thinking that it can be continued especially now that Axe is back, the 'gang' is back, and they can do business in other states.
Maybe in a few years but the big problem is that the whole show was the battle between axe and chuck probably invisibly over Wendy. That rivalry is done but I would like to see more axe.
From the start of the season me and my friends that watch this show agree that is has been beautifully written to go into this season i was expecting nothing short and i have been utterly right. The writing in this has been great. However the plot around prince being a ego maniac that is going to end the world and put us in world war 3 or worst was utter bullshit. It simply made zero fucking sense and was forced down our throat with no evidence of it what so ever he was the exact opposite. And i am someone who loves axes character and would want him to get his revenge but the narrative around it simply made no sense. I am dissapoonted in the direction they went this finals season but the execution was nothing short of what they have given us to this point and that is 10/10. Please like if you agree and if not leave a lengthy in detail comment i would love to hear the other side of my point of view
I agree 100%. Prince isn’t perfect and we saw many points in time where he exhibited scummy behaviour. None of it warranted them sabotaging his wealth and attributing crimes to him he wasn’t involved with.
Unlike Axe and Chuck who caused their own selves to get their losses, Prince did nothing to cause the ending we got.
I saw it coming but was severely underwhelmed.
The story of: the Leser of two evils!
That’s an interesting perspective, I never thought of it that way.
What did prince do to warrant this conspiracy orchestrated against him? We all just gonna ignore billionaires and law work together to illegally destroy his legacy? The printer throw was out of control but I understand.
People with kill to protect a small business worth 10s of thousands a month. For the destruction of Billions? Red every member of this conspiracy would live the rest of their lives uthat under threats of reprisal not just from Prince, but people far scarier and far more ruthless.
All it would take would be one phone call from Prince to parties involved letting them know who screwed them for the dogs to be unleahed.
Anyone remember the investment bankers who committed suicide or disppeared after Maddoff ruined them? At least one of them were purportedly responsible for cleaning and investing money for eastern european gangs.
I wanted Axe and Wendy to get together
It will surely be missed
Did anyone notice Chuck call Bobby Robby and Axe calling Chuck Carlos? Did they grow up together
So...why was Prince considered a worse bad guy than Chuck and Axe?
He wasn’t, Prince was a very respectable character & should have been the rightful victor all in all.
Because he was supposed to be Trump.
@@iamthewizardwhoknocks2845 how so? Only similarities I see are that he was a billionaire running for president. Other than that, he was smart, articulate, and seemed to lean liberal.
Can Mike Prince have a similar reawakening as Chuck and Axe?
Anyone remember "the happy ending" from Waynes world 2 when they did the gag? Felt like that to me. It was brilliantly done but I felt Spyros was a snake the whole time and didn't deserve the happy ending. Just my thought though.
He was the comic relief at the end so he needed a bone as well
I had several interesting experiences during this season that started in last season…. The first was seeing the “good guys” as the bad guys. I’m open to counter opinions, however, when I reflect back, I think Prince was far more fair and less “evil” that Axe and especially Chuck. In fact, I see Chuck as the most evil since he misused his position whereas the investors used loopholes or skirted the law. I guess I place a higher level of responsibility on Chuck. Further though and to my point, to me it seems like Prince simply out played everyone but I didn’t seem him go to any levels the others wouldn’t have gone to… in fact he avoided them. The second thing and probably the most annoying for me was the constant need to reference situations I’m guessing to show how brilliant or hip they were… like so and so at X. It just became a tiresome crutch for me. Last but not least, I think the narcissism of Wendy got to me. Everyone gets on board with this major plan because she decided? While I liked the last season overall, I think I would have liked something that required a bit less suspension of disbelief. Oh I should mention that I loved the diverse cast WITHOUT any explanation for special circumstances or message. Honestly it was refreshing to see well developed characters with skill sets that would fleshed out and not given to specific groups. All of the actors and their characters I thought were really great. I will miss this show but I do think it was time to end.
What wasn't seen, but what I just assumed, was that DiGiulio set up the National Security meeting with Prince and POTUS. But you had to know, from the first scene from 7-1 was that Prince was going down, and going down hard.
Mike Prince would not have been taken out this way, if he is as smart they say he is.
Absolutely, and the take down of the fund was sus. So they blew up all of Mike Princes investors too? Lol they just made 1000 new enemies
The writers had to go through EXTREME mental gymnastics to this finale in order to placate their fuzzy-logical emotionally-fueled Axe fan-base. Looks similar to how Anakin Skywalker mutated to the Dark Side as Darth Vader OVERNIGHT! The dialogue between Prince and Wendy after projecting the office machine through the glass wall of her office makes NO sense at all! Also note that the Business Structuring of MPC is ABSOLUTELY COMPLETE NONSENSE!
@@ultramarkusomega I am so relieved I’m not the only one who thinks this too. Mental gymnastics lol perfect way to describe it. They better have a Mike Prince spin off
@@mralgo3836 They should to keep their logical fans-base. Facts DESTROY their feelings and emotional narrative. All the Axe fans said that Prince is evil egotistical maniac. Yet... it is Axe (along with Wendy and Wags) who prevented a friend getting a cure to his cancer so when he died he is unable to testify against Axe and send him to jail. That is PURE EGOTISTICAL EVIL!
I think it was cheap writing, at last min , you prove half if his team was working against him. They could have make axe or chuck to topple the entire kingdom with a sudden great idea
I hate this episode. Last I checked Mike Prince didn't brake the law and have to flee the country let alone blackmail so many along the way
"Axe found it difficult to accept all that collateral harm to the people that he cares about. Thus he follows Bobby Axelrod's lead...." Huh? I don't get it. Axe follows Bobby Axelrod's lead. Am I missing something here?
What about how Bobby Axelrod was to arrive back on American soil? I thought he was a fugitive?
I'm glad Axe smoked Prince.. But in all reality.. he was very presidential... doesn't take shit from anyone, and is a strong leader.. Remember....Prince took out Axe all by himself.... it took Axe, Wendy, Chuck, Wags and ALL the rest.. to take down Prince...
The finale made up a LITTLE for horrid season 5.
That smile by prince shows what happened to the $3.5 billion prince used in the crytro gambit and his threat of a second comming!!?
Why wasn’t the printer connected ?
Wireless
@@iamthewizardwhoknocks2845 Wireless charging? do you know the manufacturer and product name?
Have you noticed that the printer Mike chucked through Wendy's Office glass partition wasn't even plugged in.
Does it mean that electors will prefer "Old Joe" to "Prince Trump" who is having problems galore?
What happened to rian
They showed a few episodes back that she chose to walk away from all of the negativity and travel the world. Mason saw her off with a heartwarming goodbye.
That's why she left the book for Taylor - Vagabond
Hopeful that she gets a spin off
Know what we didn't miss? The WOKE messages down our throats. Again, again, and AGAIN!
omg, I'm going to miss all of you guys please showtime, create some spin-offs.
4 are comin our way wit Billions: Miami being the first
@@nascr7_47 CANT WAIT!!!!