I'm from south africa and we do the same here, it's culture but it's also bullshit bec the price for the "thank you" can be R100 000 and the money doesn't go towards the wedding or the couples lives so you're buying a women
I'm from USA 🇺🇸! Yall are a Beautiful Black Couple!! Thank you for explaining and sharing!! I can see it from both sides!! The honest and the love is so Wonderful!!❤❤
Amen, so I'm a white Californian and I'm dating a woman from sesotho meseru n she told me about this lobola n I was shocked because I believe in equality n I felt at first that having to buy her hand was crazy but I'm open. For yehovah yirah. He will provide. It's just different but it's calming to know I'm not the only American going through or has gone through this. We are still in beginning of our relationship 8 months but our foundation is on Christ. But thanks for sharing your beautiful story in Jesus name. Blessings to you family. God bless you abundantly.
I absolutely share your views on this African tradition. It's biblical, it's Middle Eastern and very much integral within the African custom and traditions. I have recently come to understand this to a greater extent now where I will be incorporating this in my introduction/Engagement Party in my home town in Bristol, England where my Jamaican family will be present and witnessing this for the first time under the umbrella of the Nigerian Igbo marriage rites. "The Knocking" ceremony will take place over a period of 2 cohort days in advance. The list - from brides family of these gifts are given to the groom’s family and relatives. Nothing elaborate or exorbitant at all. I will insist it must come into a manageable budget or else it will be cancelled. That's why there should be agreed negotiations to accept it. No haggling. Bride Price will be given to the parents as a token of appreciation and gifts, providing the bride herself will have already given consent to the marriage and will be asked if the family should accept the presented gifts. The Bride is the absolute key to it being the legitimate reason for the ceremony by consent because she was asked and she said a big fat YES lol 😆 😂 😅 Then the dowry is paid to the bride for herself that the representing Groom’s family given on his behalf. What beautiful way to join 2 families together? We will be doing it under a spiritual trust as well as a celebrated day on the 3rd "Knocking". It's going to be glorious. My fiancé and I will work it out even for our parents to understand it. Nothing to do with western white wedding customs at all. As legal as that maybe, its considered irrelevant by African standards. Without the bride price, there's no recognition among the Africans. This is to legitimise it for our Jamaican and UK families to be accepted properly into African customs. It's going to be fun! Yayyy!!!🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💕🎊🎉
it's not Biblicaly my dear i can proove you wrong { the only place it speaks about a bride price is {whenever a men sleeps with a women without being Married her father is allowedd to ask for some $$$$$$$ { Look at Zachariah 11 } it speak against it { in the pass it was a GIFT NOW ITS A DEMAND its so bad that it caused many SUICIDALS FROM YOUNGS PEOPLE KNOWING THAT THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MARRY SOMEONE 2# ABORTIONS BECAUSE MONEY IS PART OF THIS ISSUE 3# KIDNAPING KIDS BECAUSE OF $$$$$ 5# SOME MARRY AT AGE 10 THAT'S CRAZY AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST MY FAVORITE 6# IMAGINE JESUS IS WALKING BY AND THEN YOU GO AND ASK HIM {HOW MUCH SHOULD I ASK FOR MY DAUGHTER TO MARRY THIS MEN } WHAT WOULD HE SAY TO YOU TELL ME { I CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR YOUR POINT } PEOPLE ARE SO GREEDY FOR $$$$$$$ DEVILS BEST STRENGHT IS $$$$$$$$$$ BYE FOR NOW
Iam so glad that you guys made that video, I’m in a process of getting my lovely partner to understand who Iam and where I come from and why he needs to go through all that, so this video is very helpful,thanks.
Hmmm an establishment that charges you for the rights to a woman's 'womanhood'! Now where have I seen that before?🤔 Oh yeah that's right that spot my buddies and I went to last week.
This is a huge part of my culture, however my father was never around and I have no male figures in my family… I’d hate to have to reach out to a “father” I haven’t seen/spoken to in years just for him to just get a payday out of something he had nothing to do with…. I’ll just have to miss out on this tradition I think
A lot of American men don't need to be threatened by a lot of men. The American justice system is behind women. A bride price is only worth it if she has a sub 5 body count or if her family is offering their full support. Otherwise your getting got. Also that woman has to be one with God.
I don't understand what Money has to do with respect, you can pay anybody any amount but that does not say anything about the intentions or integrity of the one who pays. Then there is that guy who has no money but truly and genuinely loves his future bride .......now what? I understand cultures, rituals, and traditions but times are changing, Women should not be for sale in 2023, people are priceless.
In the Bible we see God's law requiring a brideprice (Exo. 22:16-17.) We believe it is more a symbol of sacrificial love and demonstration of commitment on the bridegroom's part. Christ paid a brideprice for His "bride" (all the believers) of His own blood! What is money compared to that! We have a video on our channel about giving a brideprice as modern Americans if you are interested.
it's Lobola this belief has caused many DEATH SUICIDES HOMICIDES ABORTION KIDNAPS { ALL ABRAHAM SEEDS HASN'T FOLLOWED THIS } I Hope this may help you to understand this must Stop !!!!
I paid a dowry with the emergency credit card before to a Caucasian & got some sleep maybe 21 years old in 414's and my village is in uproar ✌🤷♀️🤦♀️👍
Yes indeed, this is true culture- Africanism at its best, this is very spiritually deep. Its a bound that is created by the couple which extends to other family members. A priceless journey!
Y. I ain’t never heard such a thing as Bride Price. Not gonna lie, I was triggered a f about the Dowry. I thought she was trying to get me. I’m talking to a woman from Ghana. I’m a Filipino-American. She wants to marry Me, and I do her. But I get it. Because she’s always a working woman that contributes to her family. I’m taking her value from her family and making it mine.
Everyone uses money , livestock was important because it was a symbol of wealth , not so much anymore. Today you need money not livestock. back in the day if you had a lot of cattle that means free milk and meat , rice and maze is growing in your backyard , literally no need to buy food. The virgin festivals are rare these days because FEMINISM happened
While I understand and respect the cultural significance of this tradition, it bothers me. Why? If you pay for something it is yours, you do whatever you like with it! Just like people and animals evolved so do culture and traditions. Because my great grand parents were slaves I cannot stomach paying for another human being..... I refuse to believe that all stories end as beautiful as yours.... I was to marry a beautiful Zimbabwean Girl in 2009 and when my parents found out about the price they flat out refused to pay.... Her parents did not understand what our fore parents went through and called off the wedding.... It is sad that families use their daughters as means of getting rich and exploit men who genuinely love their children.....
@@xhalanga it's reply like these that blackens the eyes of black men and women in the Caribbean..... Silly comments that offer absolutely no substance.... In our West Indian culture, where men and women were sold and bought as slaves it holds particular significance.... As descendants of african slaves we view paying any form of dowry or bride price as a crime and it is against our laws and morals.... But you want to claim that you have moved into the 21st century with traditions that oftentimes humiliate both men and women!!! But carry on it is your thing not mines
@@fukutwatable I don't even need to validate you or who you think you are!!! But hey if a man is stupid enough to pay for you then I pray he only pays half a Goat!!! You're not even worth that
A LOT OF SUICIDES HOMOCIDES KIDNAPPS ABORTION AND SO ON BECAUSE OF IT {LOOK FOR MORE INFO ABOUT IT {INDIA STARTED IT ALL THEN UK THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEAL LATER ON THEY HATED IT IT WAS TOO LATE IT SPREAD ALL TROUGHT EUROPE AND AFRICA
I'm from south africa and we do the same here, it's culture but it's also bullshit bec the price for the "thank you" can be R100 000 and the money doesn't go towards the wedding or the couples lives so you're buying a women
I'm from USA 🇺🇸! Yall are a Beautiful Black Couple!! Thank you for explaining and sharing!! I can see it from both sides!! The honest and the love is so Wonderful!!❤❤
Amen, so I'm a white Californian and I'm dating a woman from sesotho meseru n she told me about this lobola n I was shocked because I believe in equality n I felt at first that having to buy her hand was crazy but I'm open. For yehovah yirah. He will provide. It's just different but it's calming to know I'm not the only American going through or has gone through this. We are still in beginning of our relationship 8 months but our foundation is on Christ. But thanks for sharing your beautiful story in Jesus name. Blessings to you family. God bless you abundantly.
Wonderful so good yu look beautful, nice tu hear y story.
N hope y ar enjoying yo marriage.❤
100% agree with the concept of adapting to the culture. Our ladies will be more secure
I am about to marry a wife from Uganda. Can you please tell me how much is the dowry?
hOW CAN MONEY SECURE THE WOMEN THAT'S NOT TRUE
@@wealthyking4778how’s marriage going? I was married to a Ugandan man
Powerful. Keep sharing, we are enjoying this.
I so enjoyed listening to this WONDERFUL CULTURAL CEREMONY 👑👑❤❤
Woow nice tu hear this...❤
I absolutely share your views on this African tradition. It's biblical, it's Middle Eastern and very much integral within the African custom and traditions.
I have recently come to understand this to a greater extent now where I will be incorporating this in my introduction/Engagement Party in my home town in Bristol, England where my Jamaican family will be present and witnessing this for the first time under the umbrella of the Nigerian Igbo marriage rites. "The Knocking" ceremony will take place over a period of 2 cohort days in advance.
The list - from brides family of these gifts are given to the groom’s family and relatives. Nothing elaborate or exorbitant at all. I will insist it must come into a manageable budget or else it will be cancelled. That's why there should be agreed negotiations to accept it. No haggling. Bride Price will be given to the parents as a token of appreciation and gifts, providing the bride herself will have already given consent to the marriage and will be asked if the family should accept the presented gifts. The Bride is the absolute key to it being the legitimate reason for the ceremony by consent because she was asked and she said a big fat YES lol 😆 😂 😅
Then the dowry is paid to the bride for herself that the representing Groom’s family given on his behalf. What beautiful way to join 2 families together?
We will be doing it under a spiritual trust as well as a celebrated day on the 3rd "Knocking". It's going to be glorious. My fiancé and I will work it out even for our parents to understand it. Nothing to do with western white wedding customs at all. As legal as that maybe, its considered irrelevant by African standards. Without the bride price, there's no recognition among the Africans.
This is to legitimise it for our Jamaican and UK families to be accepted properly into African customs. It's going to be fun! Yayyy!!!🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💕🎊🎉
Congratulations!
it's not Biblicaly my dear i can proove you wrong { the only place it speaks about a bride price is {whenever a men sleeps with a women without being Married her father is allowedd to ask for some $$$$$$$ { Look at Zachariah 11 } it speak against it { in the pass it was a GIFT NOW ITS A DEMAND
its so bad that it caused many SUICIDALS FROM YOUNGS PEOPLE KNOWING THAT THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MARRY SOMEONE 2# ABORTIONS BECAUSE MONEY IS PART OF THIS ISSUE 3# KIDNAPING KIDS BECAUSE OF $$$$$ 5# SOME MARRY AT AGE 10 THAT'S CRAZY AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST MY FAVORITE 6# IMAGINE JESUS IS WALKING BY AND THEN YOU GO AND ASK HIM {HOW MUCH SHOULD I ASK FOR MY DAUGHTER TO MARRY THIS MEN } WHAT WOULD HE SAY TO YOU TELL ME { I CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR YOUR POINT } PEOPLE ARE SO GREEDY FOR $$$$$$$ DEVILS BEST STRENGHT IS $$$$$$$$$$ BYE FOR NOW
Iam so glad that you guys made that video, I’m in a process of getting my lovely partner to understand who Iam and where I come from and why he needs to go through all that, so this video is very helpful,thanks.
You guys are so cute!! Yes to lobola. Thanks for tying it with Gen 24👏🏾👏🏾
The guy looks like denzel washngton
Definitely !👍
SEEING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME, BUT REALLY REALLY LOVE IT.. ALSO NEW SUBSCRIBER
Like yu guys.
Watching from SA....🎉
What are your thoughts about Lobola?
Thank you Pastors,, you inspired me, l love the way you are Mom and Dady
What an amazing story ❤️
Hmmm an establishment that charges you for the rights to a woman's 'womanhood'! Now where have I seen that before?🤔 Oh yeah that's right that spot my buddies and I went to last week.
Well explained
This is a huge part of my culture, however my father was never around and I have no male figures in my family… I’d hate to have to reach out to a “father” I haven’t seen/spoken to in years just for him to just get a payday out of something he had nothing to do with….
I’ll just have to miss out on this tradition I think
Your mum is the beneficiary. it's the one who brought you up
Hallelujah 🙌🏻
A lot of American men don't need to be threatened by a lot of men. The American justice system is behind women. A bride price is only worth it if she has a sub 5 body count or if her family is offering their full support. Otherwise your getting got. Also that woman has to be one with God.
I don't understand what Money has to do with respect, you can pay anybody any amount but that does not say anything about the intentions or integrity of the one who pays.
Then there is that guy who has no money but truly and genuinely loves his future bride .......now what?
I understand cultures, rituals, and traditions but times are changing, Women should not be for sale in 2023, people are priceless.
In the Bible we see God's law requiring a brideprice (Exo. 22:16-17.) We believe it is more a symbol of sacrificial love and demonstration of commitment on the bridegroom's part. Christ paid a brideprice for His "bride" (all the believers) of His own blood! What is money compared to that! We have a video on our channel about giving a brideprice as modern Americans if you are interested.
Beautiful story indeed...i think sm1 shd have told Pastor abt the whole process so he dosent get shocked😅
Please dont use the word ''dowry'' its the opposite of brideprice!!
it's Lobola this belief has caused many DEATH SUICIDES HOMICIDES ABORTION KIDNAPS { ALL ABRAHAM SEEDS HASN'T FOLLOWED THIS } I Hope this may help you to understand this must Stop !!!!
Love this channel
I paid a dowry with the emergency credit card before to a Caucasian & got some sleep maybe 21 years old in 414's and my village is in uproar ✌🤷♀️🤦♀️👍
Yes indeed, this is true culture- Africanism at its best, this is very spiritually deep. Its a bound that is created by the couple which extends to other family members. A priceless journey!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 sitting on the floor is an issue with many
Y. I ain’t never heard such a thing as Bride Price. Not gonna lie, I was triggered a f about the Dowry. I thought she was trying to get me. I’m talking to a woman from Ghana. I’m a Filipino-American. She wants to marry Me, and I do her. But I get it. Because she’s always a working woman that contributes to her family. I’m taking her value from her family and making it mine.
Or you could just Google it in a minute.
What virginity festivals can I go to meet a wife? And why are livestock so valuable to Africans? And are there any Africans that do not use money?
Everyone uses money , livestock was important because it was a symbol of wealth , not so much anymore. Today you need money not livestock. back in the day if you had a lot of cattle that means free milk and meat , rice and maze is growing in your backyard , literally no need to buy food. The virgin festivals are rare these days because FEMINISM happened
Sad
While I understand and respect the cultural significance of this tradition, it bothers me. Why? If you pay for something it is yours, you do whatever you like with it! Just like people and animals evolved so do culture and traditions. Because my great grand parents were slaves I cannot stomach paying for another human being..... I refuse to believe that all stories end as beautiful as yours.... I was to marry a beautiful Zimbabwean Girl in 2009 and when my parents found out about the price they flat out refused to pay.... Her parents did not understand what our fore parents went through and called off the wedding.... It is sad that families use their daughters as means of getting rich and exploit men who genuinely love their children.....
You need to learn about lobola cos you obviously don't know sh!t
@@xhalanga it's reply like these that blackens the eyes of black men and women in the Caribbean..... Silly comments that offer absolutely no substance.... In our West Indian culture, where men and women were sold and bought as slaves it holds particular significance.... As descendants of african slaves we view paying any form of dowry or bride price as a crime and it is against our laws and morals.... But you want to claim that you have moved into the 21st century with traditions that oftentimes humiliate both men and women!!! But carry on it is your thing not mines
Then go marry your culture if you don't want to respect other people's cultures 🙄
@@fukutwatable I don't even need to validate you or who you think you are!!! But hey if a man is stupid enough to pay for you then I pray he only pays half a Goat!!! You're not even worth that
A LOT OF SUICIDES HOMOCIDES KIDNAPPS ABORTION AND SO ON BECAUSE OF IT {LOOK FOR MORE INFO ABOUT IT {INDIA STARTED IT ALL THEN UK THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEAL LATER ON THEY HATED IT IT WAS TOO LATE IT SPREAD ALL TROUGHT EUROPE AND AFRICA
Absolutely u look like danzel Washington
Denzel doesnt pay for chicks
In my culture you crawl into the house
All about that citizenship. Love isn't involved. Sad Reality anymore. It's just your turn.
Who knows that?