Easiest skip unit your ever gonna see hoyo put out rn… he has virtually no teams he works in outside of Ellen or solider 11… Miyabi doesn’t even work with him due to their conflicting core passive requirements on top of him being stuck right in the middle of section 6 characters… Lighter is the biggest pull for rerun agent we have atm so Miyabi is an easy choice to save for as a result…😕
Nope, can't imagine team with Lighter and Miyabi where everyone is happy and everything works. And it's unknown if Frost element will be affected by Ice damage buffs - Miyabi has insane multipliers on beta server, which might mean no. Has 100% next char and ~230 tapes. So Miyabi and Trigger (when ever she will be)
@@umimintsune0058 Miyabi wants disorder so without another anomaly char she won't be in her full potential, that's why I said it's not ideal it can work but it's not the best.
@@umimintsune0058 Unless Miyabi has something special, anomaly doesn’t benefit from crit. Also, so far the anomaly carries we’ve seen recently love to hog on-field time so the question becomes if the stun bonus/buffs justify losing precious anomaly buildup time.
@@greyfox7352I’m planning to run Miyabi with Lighter and Burnice for ice/fire disorder. Imagine the damage! Lighter reduces fire and ice resistance for enemies and buffs teammates fire and ice damage. And with Miyabi scaling with crit rate and crit dmg, Lighter works really well.
@@robertkazim3910I’ve heard that too, but I’ll have to make do til the 5 star section 6 support is released. Because I’m not going to run her with Yanagi when she requires so much field time. At least I’ll still trigger Lighter and Burnice’s additional abilities to make up for the lack of damage with the huge increase to fire and ice damage and the reduction of enemies ice and fire resistance. Not to mention the increased stun time that Lighter provides giving us a bigger window to drop burst damage.
Lighter's M1 only increases collapse's duration *to* 5s, not by. This means it's only increased by 2s from the base 3s. The in-game text was the result of a poor translation.
I was gonna pull Him for my Ellen team but I pulled Lycaon from the standard banner. Now I'm saving my guaranteed S-Rank for someone else I really like
What about Lighter/Lyacon/Ellen. This team just seems so cool to me and and it should also work perfectly, no? Because even tho lighter and lyacon both want field time I can just switch them based on how much energy they have, right? And when the enemy is stunned (which will happen quickly with two stunners) ellen will send him to hell.
I haven't seen anyone talk about how he could pair with a DPS/crit damage Burnice? I know that that wouldn't be meta or even ideal, but it sounds really fun.
I watched another video made by rivenous and apparently there is a bunch of typos on his mindscapes M1 increases the stun duration TO 5 seconds and not BY 5 seconds M2 increases the stun duration TO 25% and not BY 25% Check yourself maybe and if you feel this is correct pin a message to let people know (Honestly pretty bad typos by HOYO if it really is the case)
Soldier 11 is the only fire attackers not the only fire DPS, Ben with Lighter and Lucy is gonna be crazy, I will pull! Maybe put Caesar and Lucy with him to make Lighter DPS
I wouldn’t recommend it. A 4 star engine is fine and you always have a chance of getting a 5 star on standard. But if you do want it then it will definitely work.
@@patman_for_sure Miyabi will obviously be stronger but not directly replace Ellen because Miyabi will always rely on a 2nd anomaly for disorder to not waste a good chunk of her kit. Unless we get another Ice Anomaly that she can pair with, Ellen is still going to be a good and more safe choice against ice weakness, especially if you just like her as a character. Personally I'll stick with Lycaon for Ellen and pull Miyabi just because she's a void hunter, but only temporarily throw her into my Yanagi team with Rina until I can replace her with a 2nd future electric support.
@@patman_for_sure they already got an ice dps unit so its better to invest on other elements than ice so their choice is valid. u sound like u are trying to sell miyabi so much and downgrade lighter here my dude lol lame
I don’t think waiting is wrong. Because Miyabi is an agent that’s likely to be very OP due to a lot of expectation. A bit of patience may save a lot of polychrome for you.
6:40 bro D4 is AP not AM Miyabi beta leak isn't....promising for Lighter. Her team passive change from [anomaly/faction] to [support/faction] meaning you can't go premium Disorder team of Miyabi Burnice Lighter and instead Miyabi LIghter Lucy? Miyabi Burnice Lucy? admittedly it's still beta so hopefully that isn't final. My guess is the upcoming "actress" agent is a support so they are trying to push that agenda or Lighter Miyabi is too strong and powercreep ellen too much, so they want to make him more optimal for Ellen and less for Miyabi
It’s not a nerf infact it gives her more team comps and if your referring to kit nerfs then think again considering she’s the most anticipated character over the last two years…😑
Honestly after seen the leaks from the beta, I'm considering skipping Miyabi and go for Lighter. She needs too much to work, she's stat hungry and needs Yanagi AND her signature. Nah, I have Yanagi but I don't wanna pull Miyabi's signature. Maybe Lighter will be easier to build and more versatile
He used to be when Miyabi extra skill needed anomaly/faction to activate.. so players ran Lighter, Burnice, Miyabi.. but they changed it to support/faction.. which makes it more difficult to play Miyabi (her kit gains a lot of help from disorder procs and not having Burnice makes it difficult to have another anomaly trigger).. so he still works well with Miyabi it's just it will be difficult to play Miyabi with lighter..
U would have to use Lucy’s ex to get the pigs out, switch into Lighter to get the stun off then switch into Soukaku immediately to get ur Vortexes off to boost Lighter as fast as possible
LIGHTER AND MIYABI DO NOT SYNERGIZE AT ALL! Neither one of their extra passives activate when their together… Miyabi from the known closed beta leaks as of current requires a support and or section 6 agent to activate her passive which is 55% increased dps to her normal combo, generating 2 stacks of frost fall (her specific ice anomaly mechanic to proc her disorder damage) from disorder triggered by teammates and a 25% ice res shred…. Lighter can’t work with her due to Miyabi being a anomaly unit and the only team he works with is with Lucy as a bridging unit and that’s it… Do not pull for lighter under the assumption that he’s meant to be paired specifically with Miyabi plain and simple aka you can skip him if you plan on investing in Miyabi.😕
It was kind of obvious from the start. Stunners were the least needed role in this first year anyways because the only limited S ranks that need one are the only charge type bursters Ellen and Zhu Yuan from 1.0 and Lycaon is still a valid choice for Ellen, if you have him. And Qingyi will be obsolete the moment we get an Ether stunner to replace her or a self carrying Ether anomaly like Jane and Yanagi to replace Zhu Yuan together with her, because Yanagi doesn't need a stunner either, none of our anomalies do. What we need now is support characters and maybe a Fire DPS because Soldier doesn't quite pull her weight sadly in comparison
@@ttduong2737 For anomaly character Yanagi, Burnice, and Piper can work well. If you are using Yanagi, Caesar and any support is a good option for the third slot but if you aren't you probably gonna need Lucy to activate Miyabi's additional abilities
No he doesn’t. You can’t run lighter in mono ice. If an enemy is weak to ice but strong against fire it will take longer to daze them using fire characters.
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Are you going to pull for Lighter? Or are you saving for someone else instead(who)?
Skip, already have qingyi lol
I'm not going to wait a year for another male agent. They are endangered species in this gooner game. Definitely pull with his weapon.
Easiest skip unit your ever gonna see hoyo put out rn… he has virtually no teams he works in outside of Ellen or solider 11…
Miyabi doesn’t even work with him due to their conflicting core passive requirements on top of him being stuck right in the middle of section 6 characters…
Lighter is the biggest pull for rerun agent we have atm so Miyabi is an easy choice to save for as a result…😕
Nope, can't imagine team with Lighter and Miyabi where everyone is happy and everything works. And it's unknown if Frost element will be affected by Ice damage buffs - Miyabi has insane multipliers on beta server, which might mean no.
Has 100% next char and ~230 tapes. So Miyabi and Trigger (when ever she will be)
I will get him with signature, I like hand to hand fighters, and miyabi is just dollar store vergil
Since Miyabi doesn't synergize with lighter, I'll pull for lighter and skip Miyabi and build him as the main dps for my team 😎
He can if u put Lucy or Harumasa on ur team
@@rjbautista9971 procing disorders will be a nightmare with this team
You need to m6 him if you want to make him a dps 💀
@@WhoThahekisthesno you don’t
Nah 😊@@WhoThahekisthes
Im here for lycon ellen lighter team it looks so fun!
two stunners kinda sounds like a waste when you could have soukaku providing 1000 atk to ellen
Lighter / Lycaon / Ellen is gonna go CRAZY
Since I got an C2R1 S11 I am definitively gonna pull for Lighter and maybe even his signature weapon
lighter+soldeir11 look so fun to play
07:30 The problem with running Miyabi with Lighter is you are forced to run Lucy as well to activate the team additional abilities which is not ideal.
How is it not ideal? Miyabi runs with a support unit now.
@@umimintsune0058 Miyabi wants disorder so without another anomaly char she won't be in her full potential, that's why I said it's not ideal it can work but it's not the best.
@@umimintsune0058 Unless Miyabi has something special, anomaly doesn’t benefit from crit. Also, so far the anomaly carries we’ve seen recently love to hog on-field time so the question becomes if the stun bonus/buffs justify losing precious anomaly buildup time.
@@greyfox7352I’m planning to run Miyabi with Lighter and Burnice for ice/fire disorder. Imagine the damage! Lighter reduces fire and ice resistance for enemies and buffs teammates fire and ice damage. And with Miyabi scaling with crit rate and crit dmg, Lighter works really well.
@thenoisyninja She seems to be special, her class is anomaly yet she needs crit rate and crit damage. (Even the disk set for her adds Crit damage)
From what i've seen from other closed beta creator Lighter has typos in his kit for example the colapse effect doesnt increase by 5 secs but to 5 secs
Okay, but can we talk about that S11 gameplay in the background? Because holy sheet that's some good damage numbers! 😱🔥
I have a C2 Koleda so i'll probably hold off untill his rerun
I can’t wait to run Miyabi, Lighter, and Burnice. The disorder is gonna go crazy.
Doesn't work, don't ask how i know
@@nier6472how do you know? don't ask why I don't know
@@RisingDeath Miyabi needs same faction or Support to unlock her passive according to some rumours
@@robertkazim3910I’ve heard that too, but I’ll have to make do til the 5 star section 6 support is released. Because I’m not going to run her with Yanagi when she requires so much field time. At least I’ll still trigger Lighter and Burnice’s additional abilities to make up for the lack of damage with the huge increase to fire and ice damage and the reduction of enemies ice and fire resistance. Not to mention the increased stun time that Lighter provides giving us a bigger window to drop burst damage.
Fire and Ice?
Lighter and Lyacon?
Hands and Lamberfeeties?!?! 😂
Lighter's M1 only increases collapse's duration *to* 5s, not by. This means it's only increased by 2s from the base 3s. The in-game text was the result of a poor translation.
2:43 is crazy
That ass!!!!
BRO GOT THE WHOLE BAKERY
I was gonna pull Him for my Ellen team but I pulled Lycaon from the standard banner. Now I'm saving my guaranteed S-Rank for someone else I really like
"Elation duration" is fun to say
What about Lighter/Lyacon/Ellen. This team just seems so cool to me and and it should also work perfectly, no? Because even tho lighter and lyacon both want field time I can just switch them based on how much energy they have, right? And when the enemy is stunned (which will happen quickly with two stunners) ellen will send him to hell.
I think Lighter doesn't need that much field time so you can just use Lycaon and use Lighter as a quick swap stunner.
I haven't seen anyone talk about how he could pair with a DPS/crit damage Burnice? I know that that wouldn't be meta or even ideal, but it sounds really fun.
I watched another video made by rivenous and apparently there is a bunch of typos on his mindscapes
M1 increases the stun duration TO 5 seconds and not BY 5 seconds
M2 increases the stun duration TO 25% and not BY 25%
Check yourself maybe and if you feel this is correct pin a message to let people know
(Honestly pretty bad typos by HOYO if it really is the case)
9:53 how dare you
Maybe i pull in his rerun banner, saving for miyabi and harumasa including the engine. Section 6 is my top priority 1st
same situation as you, Miaby will dictate if I pull him or not
Soldier 11 is the only fire attackers not the only fire DPS, Ben with Lighter and Lucy is gonna be crazy, I will pull! Maybe put Caesar and Lucy with him to make Lighter DPS
True, have seen some DPS LUCY's fighting in the HollowZero Garden and beating it completly by herself(almost) and she does some crazy stuff.
What about Lighter's sig for Lycaon? (I don't have his or Koleda's sig)
I wouldn’t recommend it. A 4 star engine is fine and you always have a chance of getting a 5 star on standard. But if you do want it then it will definitely work.
i gonna pull for lighter and skip miyabi bz i already have jane and ellen+signature
I highly discourage that.
Wait until Miyabi's kit is revealed before you make that decision. My two cents
@@patman_for_sure Miyabi will obviously be stronger but not directly replace Ellen because Miyabi will always rely on a 2nd anomaly for disorder to not waste a good chunk of her kit.
Unless we get another Ice Anomaly that she can pair with, Ellen is still going to be a good and more safe choice against ice weakness, especially if you just like her as a character.
Personally I'll stick with Lycaon for Ellen and pull Miyabi just because she's a void hunter, but only temporarily throw her into my Yanagi team with Rina until I can replace her with a 2nd future electric support.
@@patman_for_sure they already got an ice dps unit so its better to invest on other elements than ice so their choice is valid. u sound like u are trying to sell miyabi so much and downgrade lighter here my dude lol lame
@@Luneshade hmm, alright, that works then
I don’t think waiting is wrong. Because Miyabi is an agent that’s likely to be very OP due to a lot of expectation. A bit of patience may save a lot of polychrome for you.
is 2-pc inferno metal also a good option?
6:40 bro D4 is AP not AM
Miyabi beta leak isn't....promising for Lighter.
Her team passive change from [anomaly/faction] to [support/faction]
meaning you can't go premium Disorder team of Miyabi Burnice Lighter
and instead Miyabi LIghter Lucy? Miyabi Burnice Lucy?
admittedly it's still beta so hopefully that isn't final.
My guess is the upcoming "actress" agent is a support so they are trying to push that agenda
or
Lighter Miyabi is too strong and powercreep ellen too much, so they want to make him more optimal for Ellen and less for Miyabi
Miyabi deserves more nerfs.
@@waifuhunter2302 agree, Miyabi's multiplier is just stupidly high at 6976% for ult. For context, Ellen's ult is 3781%
It’s not a nerf infact it gives her more team comps and if your referring to kit nerfs then think again considering she’s the most anticipated character over the last two years…😑
Honestly after seen the leaks from the beta, I'm considering skipping Miyabi and go for Lighter. She needs too much to work, she's stat hungry and needs Yanagi AND her signature. Nah, I have Yanagi but I don't wanna pull Miyabi's signature. Maybe Lighter will be easier to build and more versatile
@@xayalThey gonna nerf her a ton for sure, same as Yanagi during the beta. She'll still be strong tho
Ima pull for him cause need a husbando, no idea who I'm gonna use him with though.
Was hoping he woke well with Miyabi.
He used to be when Miyabi extra skill needed anomaly/faction to activate.. so players ran Lighter, Burnice, Miyabi.. but they changed it to support/faction.. which makes it more difficult to play Miyabi (her kit gains a lot of help from disorder procs and not having Burnice makes it difficult to have another anomaly trigger).. so he still works well with Miyabi it's just it will be difficult to play Miyabi with lighter..
Why are people making videos about him after his banner
Bro, stop time traveling ☠️ he releases in like few days
Well, pretty sure attack will be new mate after Miyabi
Too bad you cant make the most of Butlerboo when you sub Lycaon out for Lighter on Ellen teams.
I’ll wait for his rerun
how does one make Lighter/Soukaku/Lucy work
U would have to use Lucy’s ex to get the pigs out, switch into Lighter to get the stun off then switch into Soukaku immediately to get ur Vortexes off to boost Lighter as fast as possible
LIGHTER AND MIYABI DO NOT SYNERGIZE AT ALL! Neither one of their extra passives activate when their together…
Miyabi from the known closed beta leaks as of current requires a support and or section 6 agent to activate her passive which is 55% increased dps to her normal combo, generating 2 stacks of frost fall (her specific ice anomaly mechanic to proc her disorder damage) from disorder triggered by teammates and a 25% ice res shred….
Lighter can’t work with her due to Miyabi being a anomaly unit and the only team he works with is with Lucy as a bridging unit and that’s it…
Do not pull for lighter under the assumption that he’s meant to be paired specifically with Miyabi plain and simple aka you can skip him if you plan on investing in Miyabi.😕
It was kind of obvious from the start.
Stunners were the least needed role in this first year anyways because the only limited S ranks that need one are the only charge type bursters Ellen and Zhu Yuan from 1.0 and Lycaon is still a valid choice for Ellen, if you have him.
And Qingyi will be obsolete the moment we get an Ether stunner to replace her or a self carrying Ether anomaly like Jane and Yanagi to replace Zhu Yuan together with her, because Yanagi doesn't need a stunner either, none of our anomalies do.
What we need now is support characters and maybe a Fire DPS because Soldier doesn't quite pull her weight sadly in comparison
Who can be paired well with Miyabi may i ask?
I plan to pull for her since i have 0 ice team 💀 not to mention lost 50/50 for Quing yi and ellen
I've been looking for a good excuse to build Lucy, she been sitting at M6 for months lol
what if you give AP to both him and Lucy so they can trigger burn?
@@ttduong2737 For anomaly character Yanagi, Burnice, and Piper can work well. If you are using Yanagi, Caesar and any support is a good option for the third slot but if you aren't you probably gonna need Lucy to activate Miyabi's additional abilities
As much as i love Lycaon and his lore, lighter def could replace him and be better, since he works with attackers.
Lycaon however will be better in the long run when Miyabi is out
Fire and Ice...? Other than Burnice, he doesn't have compatibility with my account 😭
lighter
LADY MIYABI!! PLEASE STEP ON ME!!
If you pull for lighter you'll be eating his ass animation lot of times 🤣😂
That's a skip for me, I just don't see myself using him in any situation.
Fire or Ice, Attack or Sons of Kalidon - so Ellen but not Miyabi. Ok, skip. Ellen has full team.
Yeah...I wanna skip, but I want a fresh body for endless tower. I'm torn
Bad video becasue there's no comparison with the other stunners like Lycaon and Koleda, Lighter excels overrall? Seriously feels a halff ass video.
lighter literally powercreeps KOLEDA and LYCAON
Doesn't KOLEDA still stun faster?
No he doesn’t. You can’t run lighter in mono ice. If an enemy is weak to ice but strong against fire it will take longer to daze them using fire characters.
Save for miyabi dont make stupid decisions
stupid decision and its just people pulling for character they like on a damn video game? lol. get a real problem my dude
never, easiest skip